Yeah know what youre saying. Its SUCH a tranquil enviroment...it needs protecting.........yeah done the kid thing too.........no nappies now though (well he IS 18 LOL)
Exactly...there is a time and place for everything. What pisses me off is so-called do gooders, who want to feed the bears or go to an African village and mess with their whole way of life.. I despise anthropologists... ;-)
Okay watched the whole video but thinking I should make a video response honestly. *laughs* I don't do that as much anymore though because the times I have all too often they were not approved and not attached to the video I was responding to. Maybe I was just replying to youtubers that were too "big" but it was mildly disappointing to have my specific response to their video not tied to it. It just didn't make as much sense on its own. :) Enjoyed your ramble as always. :0)
@slaxxxer whoa multiple !. Well now that gives me more incentive to do it. :) It will probably just be me sitting in my new to me van though as it is quite quiet in there. Used to be quiet here until the 26 acres across from was destroyed for new apartments... maybe I will go to the wetlands and do it though. Hard to say. :)
knowledge gives respect, if they aint got the knowledge...
IMO properly educated kids would, if been out to play in woods -
; bring home _respectfully_ foraged food etc for the family....
tbf should go with out saying that respect is shown to most everything.
presume nothing - good idea that :).
mebbe if the land wasn't cleared of woodland all those years ago , an we still had these places, allover - for all to enjoy, ....with space enough too !!
You make very valid points here... As a mother I taught my child to respect places and things especially other peoples houses, nature and natural places etc.. He knows how to behave.. I also get annoyed when other peoples children run around and scream especially when everything is peaceful.. It is not the children's fault it is the lack of discipline on parents part.. Lack of respect for others in general..
Sending your kid's into those woods is going to be a welcome relief in a few years.
- When my kid's got to about 7 years old, I realize how controlled their environment was with school, and screen time, and quite games.
- Letting the noise out and loosing control is an important and healthy thing for kids. They can't know where the limit is if they never bump into it.
- It can be quite annoying for everyone else.
- Re-film this video in 8 years and let us know your thoughts.
@REXMARX003 I will always love my kid going to the woods but she will be taught respect for the fact that it is NOT HER HOME. 8 years time I will hopefully have taught her the value of respecting other people and creatures and the essential nature of letting things be. I will do my utmost to teach her that value of knowing that we have no right to enter another beings home and scare the inhabitants shitless just because we have so little understanding or respect !
@slaxxxer I am looking forward to seeing the kids is a few years. It sound like you will be an excellent parent.
There is a book by a guy named Richard Louv with a title of Last Child in the Woods. I think you would enjoy reading it as it talks about how important nature is in a child's development. You obviously have a love for nature and will likely impart that love to your child, but the book is quite interesting on a developmental level for kids.
Spot on about the school kids. I work in an outdoor kindergarten, where we're out in the woods at least 80% of the time. What the children(and the grown-ups) learn is essentially how to be at home in the woods. A big part of the process is learning how to be quiet and then how to listen, touch, smell, how to be patient etc. In fact, it's remarkable how quickly most children learn this and how much it alters their general behaviour.
Humans have evolved to self gratification pigs that have to leave their noise and crap where ever they go. They have become detached from the natural environment that once ruled over us and now the forest is just another kiddyland centre to run amuck and dominate with little respect. Kids learn it from their brat parents and the retail mall culture we live in which caters for self interest only. I like an adventure just like any kid but they can STFU! Shhh, we're hunting wabbits!
Having a baby is massive shock to the system,its very intense at first with all the sleepless nights and all.Its like a kettle boiling away ,but it does stop and it will simmer down.I cried my eyes out on day 7 and day 10 after the birth of our daughter.little tip on bottle feeding at first...1 ounce then burp then another ounce then burp ;>),its better for there wind and she wont puke
its when you start hearing human noises in the same way as you hear other animal noises that you start to be ok with it. jet skis, offroad bikes, bbqs, parking cars on grassy parks, that's the really annoying crap.
I totally understand what you mean...children have to learn to respect these green spaces as the noise pollution is as damaging to the wildlife as trampling over all the wild flowers! I have no issue with children going out for walks in the woods but they have to be totally supervised and taught to respect the environment, quietly!! I want to hear the birds singing and the wind blowing through the trees, not the roar of the crowd!!
@moderatemartian7 - yea I feel like a douche bag for having spent 20 yrs in construction - tearing up the land, putting up stucco'd boxes....n the waste of resources that are in every dumpster on every job site....its fkn sickening.
@420ndabizzlemynizzle I guess we have all done things through necessity that goes against our principals - I would say fair play to you for seeing through it all and thus redeeming yourself buddy! ;-0)
@420ndabizzlemynizzle Yeah tell me about it. In my past jobs which mainly were closely connected to the building industry seen so much waste it's criminal. Good wood thrown because it has a few nails in it etc... well you know the shit that goes on.
I have to respectfully disagree with your point about not letting kids run around the woods, having lived in the countryside my whole life, making camps, climbing trees, playing in rivers and streams, shouting and having a laugh is exactly why I feel I have a strong connection to nature. To expect kids to stick to set pathways is pretty unrealistic really.
'off the beaten track' or 'the path less travelled' is also a good philosopy for an interesting life of discovery.
@EvilBproductions Well I guess it is down to respect levels - turn it on its head and imagine people you tolerate in your home interfering with literally every one of your life's necessities, We have separated ourselves from our true natures and yet arrogantly still intrude on the homes of others - just more vile human arrogance and intrusion that has seen us take on a constant basis without ever thinking "just because we are capable does that mean we should"
@slaxxxer I don't really feel seperated from my true nature, I'm just a man in the woods, I may have a box to live in, but most animals have some kind of shelter or nest. I spend all day outside, I make friends with birds and animals. The woods are as much my home as any other creature, I don't rummage around in brids nests or badger sets, or rabbit holes (unlike Alice the bitch)
@EvilBproductions That may have been true of our ancestors but your home (house) is that box now. To have your own solitary and not interfered with eating,drinking,sleeping and living space yet also claim the same spaces that now due to the way we have miss-created our lives and world are no longer our homes as also a domain that we are free to run amok in is like saying it is ok to break and enter other peoples houses and live in their domain - it just isn't the case.
part 2. this is when i got my respect for what a hard job having kids was because this guy was as hard as nails city kid. anyway it lasted one and a half months and with a little help from the grans and grandads with having the little fella for the odd night they got through. my thoughts are with you and your beautiful lady, its hard but I'm sure dam well worth it. all the very best on this your new path in life.
Ha ha an there's me favouring George Carlin - Saving the Planet that massages my misanthropist streak which I shouldn't encourage. Yes we should respect nature more, it's difficult because so many of us are mostly cut off from it that we just see it as a big playground. Those that live with nature more often respect it. Years ago I worked as a wood-machinist cutting up massive timbers of Mahogany without giving it a thought. Terrible. In England there's hardly anything left, such a shame...
never did the having kids thing but plenty of the people around me have which is where my appreciation for what a hard job it is comes from. a friend of mine asked me many years ago what i thought of him starting a family, he was 19 and his lady was 17 and i said that he should do it a little later in life. however he started his journey and after four days of the new baby being home he was round my house looking for more advise at which point he broke down in a flood of tears. cont...part 2
Its the nature of being misanthropic perhaps - I don't know, I get the same feelings when I'm out in the woodlands. I hate to hear children screaming and shouting, or adults talking in fact, and at times I just don't like seeing people (period) when I'm out walking. That's just the way I am. I have tried to alter my feelings, but they still exist, regardless. I find wearing ear phones helps. It is invariably the sound factor that disturbs me.
@beardfreak1969 I'm the same way, I want some peace when I'm walking. I'm not the most tolerant person when it comes to peoples noise (depending on the situation and mindset) as sometimes it's like scratching fingernails down a blackboard to me. I would wear ear phones but then you miss the subtle sounds of nature that are so relaxing - nature's Valium.
@ModerateMartian I use ear phones/plugs in a targeted manner (pop them in and out depending on circumstances) - I am wearing them now to block out noise outside... blissful =) I think many of us feel this way, but few of us say so! I learnt much from the late Charles Bukowski in terms of expressiveness.
@beardfreak1969 All situations where I could potentially get shit from strangers I love cranking up the volume on my mp3 player and listen to the track "Broken beat and scarred" by Metalica - awesomely empowering!
@slaxxxer I was listening to Tool today which was rather elevating on the train - but sometimes I switch to ambience, like - Beyond Sensory Experience / No Lights In Our Eyes... that album really casts a pall over the landscape (it is a wonderful album). The joys ;-)
@beardfreak1969 I should have thought of that but also I funny ears, they don't look funny but all the push in plugs either fall out or if they are the ones you push right in the ear canal hurt. I wouldn't wear phones. Thanks for mentioning Charles Bukowski, I can only write that I'm ignorant as to what he has written (I should read more) as far as I can recall. From what I can gather he sounds like a 'beat writer'? I will check his work out.
@ModerateMartian Charles was rather controversial to say the least, but yeah - I'd say a beat writer is a fair description. Just checked your channel and noticed you like "Dark Ambient Drone" - brilliant. A decent pair of noise excluding ear mufflers are the 3M Optime III - but these are rather bulky, excellent for study purposes. Cheers!
@beardfreak1969 You might like some of the music on my other channel which a link is on my profile, things like Desiderii Marginis, mostly on the Metropolis soundtrack edit that I did a while back or Raison d'Etre - The Shadow of the Soul. Yeah they are rather bulky, could do with something to block the noise of the w*****s around my area that make noise all hours of the night, it either that or shoot 'em. ;)
@beardfreak1969 I usually loathe the patronising phrase "theres a time and place for everything" as it is such a direct contradiction to spontinaity but when it comes to humans invading the spaces where other species eat, sleep, mate, bare their young and ultimately die - we should share that space for sure BUT invade with all guns blazing? - never!
Yeah know what youre saying. Its SUCH a tranquil enviroment...it needs protecting.........yeah done the kid thing too.........no nappies now though (well he IS 18 LOL)
messeyehere 9 months ago
Exactly...there is a time and place for everything. What pisses me off is so-called do gooders, who want to feed the bears or go to an African village and mess with their whole way of life.. I despise anthropologists... ;-)
OfDaughter 9 months ago
Okay watched the whole video but thinking I should make a video response honestly. *laughs* I don't do that as much anymore though because the times I have all too often they were not approved and not attached to the video I was responding to. Maybe I was just replying to youtubers that were too "big" but it was mildly disappointing to have my specific response to their video not tied to it. It just didn't make as much sense on its own. :) Enjoyed your ramble as always. :0)
- Heidi
blackcat2enterprises 9 months ago
@blackcat2enterprises I really look forward to your video response!!!!!!!
slaxxxer 9 months ago
@slaxxxer whoa multiple !. Well now that gives me more incentive to do it. :) It will probably just be me sitting in my new to me van though as it is quite quiet in there. Used to be quiet here until the 26 acres across from was destroyed for new apartments... maybe I will go to the wetlands and do it though. Hard to say. :)
- Heidi
blackcat2enterprises 9 months ago
@blackcat2enterprises Excellent!
slaxxxer 9 months ago
This video never showed up in my subscription box :( Makes me wonder now how many others I might have missed out on.
- Heidi
blackcat2enterprises 9 months ago
knowledge gives respect, if they aint got the knowledge...
IMO properly educated kids would, if been out to play in woods -
; bring home _respectfully_ foraged food etc for the family....
tbf should go with out saying that respect is shown to most everything.
presume nothing - good idea that :).
mebbe if the land wasn't cleared of woodland all those years ago , an we still had these places, allover - for all to enjoy, ....with space enough too !!
-perhaps one wouldn't mind s'much ?!
VonLeachim 9 months ago
You make very valid points here... As a mother I taught my child to respect places and things especially other peoples houses, nature and natural places etc.. He knows how to behave.. I also get annoyed when other peoples children run around and scream especially when everything is peaceful.. It is not the children's fault it is the lack of discipline on parents part.. Lack of respect for others in general..
THEMAYQUEEN1 9 months ago
@THEMAYQUEEN1 SPOT ON! - NUFF SAID! ;-0)
slaxxxer 9 months ago
Sending your kid's into those woods is going to be a welcome relief in a few years.
- When my kid's got to about 7 years old, I realize how controlled their environment was with school, and screen time, and quite games.
- Letting the noise out and loosing control is an important and healthy thing for kids. They can't know where the limit is if they never bump into it.
- It can be quite annoying for everyone else.
- Re-film this video in 8 years and let us know your thoughts.
REXMARX003 9 months ago
@REXMARX003 I will always love my kid going to the woods but she will be taught respect for the fact that it is NOT HER HOME. 8 years time I will hopefully have taught her the value of respecting other people and creatures and the essential nature of letting things be. I will do my utmost to teach her that value of knowing that we have no right to enter another beings home and scare the inhabitants shitless just because we have so little understanding or respect !
slaxxxer 9 months ago
@slaxxxer I am looking forward to seeing the kids is a few years. It sound like you will be an excellent parent.
There is a book by a guy named Richard Louv with a title of Last Child in the Woods. I think you would enjoy reading it as it talks about how important nature is in a child's development. You obviously have a love for nature and will likely impart that love to your child, but the book is quite interesting on a developmental level for kids.
REXMARX003 9 months ago
Spot on about the school kids. I work in an outdoor kindergarten, where we're out in the woods at least 80% of the time. What the children(and the grown-ups) learn is essentially how to be at home in the woods. A big part of the process is learning how to be quiet and then how to listen, touch, smell, how to be patient etc. In fact, it's remarkable how quickly most children learn this and how much it alters their general behaviour.
SilverBuddha 9 months ago 2
Humans have evolved to self gratification pigs that have to leave their noise and crap where ever they go. They have become detached from the natural environment that once ruled over us and now the forest is just another kiddyland centre to run amuck and dominate with little respect. Kids learn it from their brat parents and the retail mall culture we live in which caters for self interest only. I like an adventure just like any kid but they can STFU! Shhh, we're hunting wabbits!
GrumpSkull 9 months ago
Having a baby is massive shock to the system,its very intense at first with all the sleepless nights and all.Its like a kettle boiling away ,but it does stop and it will simmer down.I cried my eyes out on day 7 and day 10 after the birth of our daughter.little tip on bottle feeding at first...1 ounce then burp then another ounce then burp ;>),its better for there wind and she wont puke
matywaldy 9 months ago
its when you start hearing human noises in the same way as you hear other animal noises that you start to be ok with it. jet skis, offroad bikes, bbqs, parking cars on grassy parks, that's the really annoying crap.
gratex 9 months ago
@gratex I hate humans and find their meaningless barking a massively ugly imposition when in the countryside
slaxxxer 9 months ago
I totally understand what you mean...children have to learn to respect these green spaces as the noise pollution is as damaging to the wildlife as trampling over all the wild flowers! I have no issue with children going out for walks in the woods but they have to be totally supervised and taught to respect the environment, quietly!! I want to hear the birds singing and the wind blowing through the trees, not the roar of the crowd!!
Wysiwygnuttyjo51 9 months ago
@Wysiwygnuttyjo51 Couldn't agree more!
slaxxxer 9 months ago
@moderatemartian7 - yea I feel like a douche bag for having spent 20 yrs in construction - tearing up the land, putting up stucco'd boxes....n the waste of resources that are in every dumpster on every job site....its fkn sickening.
420ndabizzlemynizzle 9 months ago
@420ndabizzlemynizzle I guess we have all done things through necessity that goes against our principals - I would say fair play to you for seeing through it all and thus redeeming yourself buddy! ;-0)
slaxxxer 9 months ago
@420ndabizzlemynizzle Yeah tell me about it. In my past jobs which mainly were closely connected to the building industry seen so much waste it's criminal. Good wood thrown because it has a few nails in it etc... well you know the shit that goes on.
ModerateMartian 9 months ago
I have to respectfully disagree with your point about not letting kids run around the woods, having lived in the countryside my whole life, making camps, climbing trees, playing in rivers and streams, shouting and having a laugh is exactly why I feel I have a strong connection to nature. To expect kids to stick to set pathways is pretty unrealistic really.
'off the beaten track' or 'the path less travelled' is also a good philosopy for an interesting life of discovery.
EvilBproductions 9 months ago
@EvilBproductions Well I guess it is down to respect levels - turn it on its head and imagine people you tolerate in your home interfering with literally every one of your life's necessities, We have separated ourselves from our true natures and yet arrogantly still intrude on the homes of others - just more vile human arrogance and intrusion that has seen us take on a constant basis without ever thinking "just because we are capable does that mean we should"
slaxxxer 9 months ago
@slaxxxer I don't really feel seperated from my true nature, I'm just a man in the woods, I may have a box to live in, but most animals have some kind of shelter or nest. I spend all day outside, I make friends with birds and animals. The woods are as much my home as any other creature, I don't rummage around in brids nests or badger sets, or rabbit holes (unlike Alice the bitch)
EvilBproductions 9 months ago
@EvilBproductions That may have been true of our ancestors but your home (house) is that box now. To have your own solitary and not interfered with eating,drinking,sleeping and living space yet also claim the same spaces that now due to the way we have miss-created our lives and world are no longer our homes as also a domain that we are free to run amok in is like saying it is ok to break and enter other peoples houses and live in their domain - it just isn't the case.
slaxxxer 9 months ago
man i would love to roll a big fat # and do a walk about in those woods....how peaceful and serene..
420ndabizzlemynizzle 9 months ago
@420ndabizzlemynizzle It is indeed a lovely place!
slaxxxer 9 months ago
part 2. this is when i got my respect for what a hard job having kids was because this guy was as hard as nails city kid. anyway it lasted one and a half months and with a little help from the grans and grandads with having the little fella for the odd night they got through. my thoughts are with you and your beautiful lady, its hard but I'm sure dam well worth it. all the very best on this your new path in life.
xxxlbrock 9 months ago
@xxxlbrock Good to hear your thoughts and yes - it is worth it! ;-0)
slaxxxer 9 months ago
Ha ha an there's me favouring George Carlin - Saving the Planet that massages my misanthropist streak which I shouldn't encourage. Yes we should respect nature more, it's difficult because so many of us are mostly cut off from it that we just see it as a big playground. Those that live with nature more often respect it. Years ago I worked as a wood-machinist cutting up massive timbers of Mahogany without giving it a thought. Terrible. In England there's hardly anything left, such a shame...
ModerateMartian 9 months ago
Nice trails.
paperweightgirl 9 months ago
@paperweightgirl beautiful eh!
slaxxxer 9 months ago
never did the having kids thing but plenty of the people around me have which is where my appreciation for what a hard job it is comes from. a friend of mine asked me many years ago what i thought of him starting a family, he was 19 and his lady was 17 and i said that he should do it a little later in life. however he started his journey and after four days of the new baby being home he was round my house looking for more advise at which point he broke down in a flood of tears. cont...part 2
xxxlbrock 9 months ago
Its the nature of being misanthropic perhaps - I don't know, I get the same feelings when I'm out in the woodlands. I hate to hear children screaming and shouting, or adults talking in fact, and at times I just don't like seeing people (period) when I'm out walking. That's just the way I am. I have tried to alter my feelings, but they still exist, regardless. I find wearing ear phones helps. It is invariably the sound factor that disturbs me.
beardfreak1969 9 months ago
@beardfreak1969 I'm the same way, I want some peace when I'm walking. I'm not the most tolerant person when it comes to peoples noise (depending on the situation and mindset) as sometimes it's like scratching fingernails down a blackboard to me. I would wear ear phones but then you miss the subtle sounds of nature that are so relaxing - nature's Valium.
ModerateMartian 9 months ago
@ModerateMartian Well said - just as xbox's are techno heroin woods and forests are "natures Valium"
slaxxxer 9 months ago
@ModerateMartian I use ear phones/plugs in a targeted manner (pop them in and out depending on circumstances) - I am wearing them now to block out noise outside... blissful =) I think many of us feel this way, but few of us say so! I learnt much from the late Charles Bukowski in terms of expressiveness.
beardfreak1969 9 months ago
@beardfreak1969 All situations where I could potentially get shit from strangers I love cranking up the volume on my mp3 player and listen to the track "Broken beat and scarred" by Metalica - awesomely empowering!
slaxxxer 9 months ago
@slaxxxer I was listening to Tool today which was rather elevating on the train - but sometimes I switch to ambience, like - Beyond Sensory Experience / No Lights In Our Eyes... that album really casts a pall over the landscape (it is a wonderful album). The joys ;-)
beardfreak1969 9 months ago
@beardfreak1969 I should have thought of that but also I funny ears, they don't look funny but all the push in plugs either fall out or if they are the ones you push right in the ear canal hurt. I wouldn't wear phones. Thanks for mentioning Charles Bukowski, I can only write that I'm ignorant as to what he has written (I should read more) as far as I can recall. From what I can gather he sounds like a 'beat writer'? I will check his work out.
ModerateMartian 9 months ago
@ModerateMartian Charles was rather controversial to say the least, but yeah - I'd say a beat writer is a fair description. Just checked your channel and noticed you like "Dark Ambient Drone" - brilliant. A decent pair of noise excluding ear mufflers are the 3M Optime III - but these are rather bulky, excellent for study purposes. Cheers!
beardfreak1969 9 months ago
@beardfreak1969 You might like some of the music on my other channel which a link is on my profile, things like Desiderii Marginis, mostly on the Metropolis soundtrack edit that I did a while back or Raison d'Etre - The Shadow of the Soul. Yeah they are rather bulky, could do with something to block the noise of the w*****s around my area that make noise all hours of the night, it either that or shoot 'em. ;)
ModerateMartian 9 months ago
@beardfreak1969 I usually loathe the patronising phrase "theres a time and place for everything" as it is such a direct contradiction to spontinaity but when it comes to humans invading the spaces where other species eat, sleep, mate, bare their young and ultimately die - we should share that space for sure BUT invade with all guns blazing? - never!
slaxxxer 9 months ago