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  • some great inforamtion here thanks

  • very interesting thanks

  • @superluminalthought.Its funny how you said no "inner work required".But there isnt.See as a Christian i dont need to work in order to be saved.The beauty of Christianity is Christ did all the WORK by hanging and dying on the cross...The Bible says too as many as "RECIEVED HIM" are children of God.Theres only one God my friend,And your not it my friend.Its the God of Abraham,Issac,and Jacob.The eternal God.And honestly you wont believe until the Lord draws you and changes that stoney heart.

  • @Famous1MB, You know Christianity like you know Chinese arithmetic. Your just another member of the common herd who will die in their ignorance. Fucking simpleton.

  • @superluminalthought correction with all do respect its spelled "Disciple" not diciple.And it means learner.So how can God be your disciple when your one of his creation??Im a slave to Jesus Christ.No longer a slave to sin.But ive been washed, ive been cleansed by the blood of Jesus.And God loves you.So much he died for you.But he wants that heart. (Romans 10:9-12)..But i cant save you.Thats only through the power of the holy spirit...God Bless.

  • @Famous1MB, That's all hearsay my friend, Have you verified whether this has any base in reality? Its seems nice and neatly packaged for mindless drones like you to regurgitate, No inner work required. I am sinner because I'm living out my allotted time in life and God who is the very architect of sin decided only 2000yrs ago to save me from the very thing he created by incarnating into a human. You have suffered a mental death if you believe this nonsense.

  • @superluminalthought your right i am weak, your right i was convicted.One day i was lost i was a sinner deep in sin..But one day i humbled my self and realized i needed a savior.I admit far from Christ im NOTHING.But now i gave everything now im a follower of Christ.Im not here to argue bout religion.Because religion cannot save no one!!!!Only a relationship with God through his Son Jesus Christ!!!!God blesd you pray that you come into the light.

  • @Famous1MB, I'm beyond all those concepts, really, you need not pray for me. The material universe prostrates before me, whereas you're still slave to it. God is my diciple.

  • @SonofGospa Thats false...Thats like saying all roads lead to your house."How do i get to your house?" "Oh what ever street decide you take"No give them the right directions so they wont be "LOST".Christianity isnt just a Religion.Its having a relationship with God through Jesus Christ.(John 14:6) We will all be judge on rather we recieved the free gift of salvation or if we reject it Hebrews 9:27

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  • @Famous1MB, The reason you find yourself ignorantly trying to convince others of your beleifs is because deep down your conviction is WEAK, You need others to come on board to confirm and strengthen your faith which subconsciously you are disillusioned by.

  • @privena13Im not here to prove no one wrong its just about pointing people to the truth.

  • @broken87mirror...So Therefore it is still False...Anything that you put your attention to, rather it be "SELF" like you said earlier, or someones car, house, money, or sex, anything that you spend more time than the One and true living God is considered false worship..The people of Israel in the Old testament where known for doing that. But God sent prophet after prophet to warn them of their false Gods, for them to repent from their evil ways, and turn to the true and living God.

  • @Famous1MB your wrong!

  • FALSE GOD!!! Jesus is LORD!!!

  • @Famous1MB attention uneducated christian fool. There are no gods that are prayed to into Buddha it comes from inside yourself and the universe

  • @broken87mirror you are wrong!you bitch!

  • I love chanting. It raises your vibrations and releases unwanted vibes.

  • @vibrantenergy so,you are buddhist?me too

  • how do you go to hell when self sufficiency is all about all original faiths? christianity is proven time & again to be taken from multiple sources. for me there is still a creator that wishes much self sufficiency upon us. instead of sitting & praying for health for instance go look & read then get better. dont do so much cutting into yourself for health try eating better. ODA instead of RDA. try research files & regular sites. sites learn from files they're not off base.

  • they sound like goose . Will a goose reacvh enlightenment?

  • @ruzickaw Probably quicker than a judgmental christian would

  • they sound like gooses . Will a goose reach enlightenment?

  • @ruzickaw acorrding to Buddhist all beings can reach enlightenment

  • i don't know what they are speaking, i'm pure buddhist from southeast asia , i don't know what it is . people here don't speak really fast like that . what teaching they are reading to ?

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  • @hiddenmindboy they are chanting the words NAM MYOHO RENGE KYO and then part of the Lotus Sutra. Nam Myoho Renge Kyo means devotion to the Mystic Law of cause and effect (karma) through the power ofsound vibration. The dialect is a form of an ancient Chinese mixed with sanskrit. The practice is from Japan.

  • How odd that this titled Ways of Worship: Buddhist Chant when there is actually no form of worship. Like the lady said, it is a practice to bring out our highest life conditions.

    We don't worship the Buddha, Nichiren or President Ikeda. They are mentors and guides with which, we too can bring about our Buddha nature for the sake of world peace.

    I'm baffled by the title of this video.

  • @gayrosesarered any man of substance will go to hell for his beliefs. Fear-mongering is only an effective means of controlling weak and inherent slaves. The promise of heaven (whether it exists or not) is merely a decorated dog treat. Or you're trolling.

  • @gayrosesarered Dumber than animals!? FUCK YOU!!!!!!!

  • LISTEN PEOPLE cut with your bullshit!! ALL of you have no respect for our Sweetest Lord, Jesus Christ so don't play all HOLY with me it dose not work!! This Buddha is a shit made up prideful bullshit artist condemning you and all the people you DESTROY into hell!! That's the REAL arrogance- towards the TRUTH in Christ!! As I've said so many times- this would never happened unless you say the JESUS PRAYER!! The prayer very powerful and of love!! YOU ARE ALL AT FAULT NOT ME!! SO GROW UP!!

  • @gayrosesarered The truth for YOU is Jesus for others it is Buddha while others worship Allah and the indigenous people worship Nature. There is no right or wrong regarding Faith. If it provides peace of ming and spirit it is the correct way for YOU but that certainly does NOT mean it is the ONLY way.

  • @gayrosesarered I sorry to tell you this but, you couldn't be more wrong! I've been a practicing buddhist for almost 5 years now! All due respect, I'm not a religious or church going person as i was before! If you say most or all of us will go to hell well then...so be it! But, I strongly suggest you keep your "sunday-go-to-meeting" remarks to yourself! Ask me...I was a mormon but, no longer! The way of faith is my own choice not yours or anyone else's.

  • @califgirl101 i'm glad you say it because i'm a buddhist too...long long time ago almost 10 years now

  • @prinvena13 Yikes! My bad! I did not know that until I saw your previous comment! Opps!

  • @gayrosesarered If you want to convince people to convert to Christianity, it would help if you didn't comment with anger. People will just dismiss you.

    By the way, the jesus prayer isn't even consistent with your own religion. It says in Matthew 7:21 that "Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven." Just calling Jesus your lord and savior doesn't even agree with the Bible.

  • @gayrosesarered Buddha is much much older than christianity. Most christians make their own religion look more false and hypocritical than it is, by being so psycho judgmental. At least Islam recognizes christianity and Judaism as valid religions but christians think their fake book written by someone thousands of years later is accurate and only thing correct. Hope your church burns down because of you coming on here to harass others

  • @broken87mirror who are you talking about?how religion buddhist?if you just post this to harrassing our religion you must be take have too learn!

  • @prinvena13 I didn't post anything insulting jealous jackass. Jealousy is a disease we need to find a cure. Stop hating and trying to get like me. You are exactly the opposite of what Buddhism represents.

  • これ創価じゃね?

  • im asian and im christian

  • @JamesianDGAF Bless you my fellow sibling in Christ!! Your nationality or race does nin no way harm for you do GOOD to your precious soul to save her in Christ. The HARM results after your baptism in this journey we all are leading: You can not serve TWO Masters: Christ and the devil "disguised" in any form other than Christianity- in this instance Buddhism!!

    What seems harmless to the naked eye is DEADLY to the soul. Unless you LIVE in Christ- there is NO LIFE!! That is the KEY I'm sharing!!

  • Any way all future responces from you or any other MORONS from your clan will be IGNORED and DELETED. I've JUSTIFIED the TRUTH of Christ!! Advocating His Holy Name against your demonic deception of worship. What you or any other MORON decides to do, thereafter is your PRICE TO PAY in hell. REMEMBER without CHRIST there is no LIFE- ETERNAL!! No Buddha, nor his teachings will SAVE your soul nor your life you are a ZOMBIE and terribly DUMB- what a waste of LIFE!! LORD HAVE MERCY!! LORD HAVE MERCY!!

  • Mate Christ didn't bring corruption- He brought Life and ABUNDANCE of LIFE Eternal. If you don't want to listen- so be it. But you can not justify the truth with the bullshit you want to "PRACTISE" as a belief and try to justify the cause!! B'cos not only are damaging your soul but elusively destroying others in the process. God who is in Jesus Christ is THE REAL REVEALED GOD- who is Buddha? What is Buddhism?! I'm not telling you what you should do. I'm REVEALING TRUTH from your bullshit!!

  • What I don't understand is what is all this religious strife that is going on this very post! what the hell happened to freedom of religion.. we should be free to practice any religion we see fit in our lives right..

  • @Skylicheroxxx09 NOT TRUE!!! That's the DEVIL in posioning your minds!!! God revealed Himself right from the beginning. Christ bought YOUR FREEDOM MORON with His Holy Blood. You are SUPPOSED not to practise devil worship in idolatry but return in REPENTANCE to Christ to inherit ETERNAL LIFE!! Instead you are all so DUMB, and only speak gibberish. I gave you warmly, lovingly and with CARE the powerful PRAYER to recite in place of the demonic chants of SHIT and all this happened!!

  • ATTENTION!!

    Despite my bad language in expressing my personal view. NONE of this would have curtailed if you BUDDHIST'S were sensible to begin with!! My point in justifying the truth was encouraging you to see in the revelation of power- the Jesus Prayer: "Lord, Jesus Christ have mercy" alas you won't recite it b'cos you know I'm telling the TRUTH for the truth does not LIE!!! So I've stated clearly this and you- the lot of you have reacted quite immaturely. So you are at fault- not me!! :-)

  • @gayrosesarered I'm gonna continue to stand up for what I believe in but you took it the wrong way by talking about God and Jesus and also use profanity in the same sentence.. What does that make you!! I dont believe in religious strife but do not force ur beliefs down someone's throat, especially mine. I use to be a christian, I grew up knowing the Word because my family forced me to know it. I left the church cuz of people like u.

  • @Skylicheroxxx09 You are blind to begin with. You left SALVATION to eagerly join Satanism. If you knew the Word of God you would be a Christian bursting with love not a traitor. face it you have no IDEA of the gospel of Love.

  • @gayrosesarered because the church is full of hypocrites who don't practice what they preach. u can call me a moron all u want to because I don't truely give a damn about what u say to me. I will continue to stand firm as a Buddhist and I will not force my way of living and chanting down ur throat. So Dont push ur words of Jesus Christ down mine!

  • @gayrosesarered POWERFUL PRAYER PLEASE SAY IT AND REPLACE THE CHANTS OF SHIT!!! NO BUDDHA OR ANY STUPID IDEA OF YOUR MADE UP RELIGION IS CORRECT IT IS ALL WRONG!!

    SAY THE PRAYER IT IS YOUR ONLY HOPE OF FORGIVENESS:

    LORD, JESUS CHRIST, SON OF GOD HAVE MERCY ON ME A SINNER

    SAY THE PRAYER!!! SAVE YOUR SOULS!!! DON'T PLAY GAMES!!! AND DON'T BACK TALK TO ME!!! I'M CARING NOT BLIND LIKE YOU!!! SAY THE PRAYER!!! YOU MUST REPENT SAY THE PRAYER!!! THERE IS NO TIME TO RELENT!!! SAY THE PRAYER!!!

  • @gayrosesarered I can say whatever the hell I want to and back it up!! it's a free country first of all and I can practice whatever religion I so choose.. Like I said, don't force ur beliefs down my throat because u have committed the ultimate sin by forcing ur beliefs on me. maybe you should just give up and push ur beliefs on someone else who will listen to them u hypocrite!!

  • @Skylicheroxxx09 You are FREE to do nothing other than REPENT and REPENT sensibly in Christ Who has PAID the ULTIMATE PRICE of your freedom YOU moron. Its a "free Country" yes- bless you for your freedom. But your soul is not here to make hasty RIDICULOUS and dangerous decisions in WORSHIPPING an IDOL in place of Christ who is the REVEALED GOD!! I'm not sinning- in fact I'm evangelizing in a loving way. Liberating your soul from the darts of bullshit. How you choose to see it is up to you!!

  • @gayrosesarered you are the evil that is in the world. think on that. What would Jesus do? Not what you are doing.

  • @whytlillith LOOK WHO IS TALKING BIG MOUTH- you are the EVIL by spreading BULLSHIT!!! I came with love and sharing truth!!! Grow up mate!! what would our Sweetest Lord, Jesus Christ do? To you now: He is waiting for your REPENTANCE and CONFESSION to CONVERT to Orthodoxy.

    At the Great Trial: YOU will see what YOUR BUDDHISM feels like in the LAKE OF FIRE where the damn spend eternity with the DEVIL!!

    YOU ARE EVIL in your idolatrous ways- your actions and BULLSHIT is the EVIL!!

  • @whytlillith I have been arguing with this hypocrite for the last few days!!! I still have some fire left in me, but one day he is going to have to learn about compassion towards people no matter what religion they are!!!!

  • @Skylicheroxxx09 Im sorry, there are good Christians in the world..its just they arent as loud as the bad ones. I think this person may be mentally ill..the only thing I can do is pray for him in my own way.

  • @gayrosesarered it's too bad that it's christans like u who are hypocrites!!! and look at u, cussing and using profanity on the board and ur susposed to be a child of god.. Don't u dare in ur life time bash my beliefs ever. U need to smack urself for the words u say u freakin jerk!!!

  • @Skylicheroxxx09 1st of all it aint a RELIGION so who gives a FUCK u moron- Buddhism is not real its made up like Islam. So i have every right to speak, defend the truth. all i said was to recite the Jesus Prayer and then you guys went all SPASTIC over a simple truth I proclaim- so get a life you are the real freak!! Swearing is what Buddhism is all about because its all SHIT from Buddha's ASS LOL

    So unless you can pray and believe in Christ Who IS GOD I don't see what the problem!!! :-)

  • What a load of nonesense- chanting, praying to an IDOL!!! The PERFECT harmony, peace and joy not only to the soul of man but reaching the world is from the SOURCE of PURE LOVE through the Prayer of the Heart: "Lord, Jesus Christ, Son of God have mercy on us, sinners" this is the POWERFUL and SPIRITUAL prayer of grace that should recited quietly in harmony to the soul not chutta chutta... bullshit of Eastern Oriental IDOLATRY- harming your very souls in worshipping the DEVIL

  • What a load of nonesense- chanting, praying to an IDOL!!! The PERFECT harmony, peace and joy not only to the soul of man but reaching the world is from the SOURCE of PURE LOVE through the Prayer of the Heart: "Lord, Jesus Christ, Son of God have mercy on us, sinners" this is the POWERFUL and SPIRITUAL prayer of grace that should recited quietly in harmony to the soul not chutta chutta... bullshit of Eastern Oriental IDOLATRY- harming your very souls in worshipping the DEVIL

  • THIS IS TRUTH:

    What a load of nonesense- chanting, praying to an IDOL!!! The PERFECT harmony, peace and joy not only to the soul of man but reaching the world is from the SOURCE of PURE LOVE through the Prayer of the Heart: "Lord, Jesus Christ, Son of God have mercy on us, sinners" this is the POWERFUL and SPIRITUAL prayer of grace that should recited quietly in harmony to the soul not chutta chutta... bullshit of Eastern Oriental IDOLATRY- harming your very souls in worshipping the DEVIL

  • It is POINTLESS to HELP you for you disregard the TRUTh and DESIRE to live this lie in SERVING the DEVIl in worshipping the devil and in destroying people's live through demonic worship. All i can do for you is PITY YOU and PRAY!! GOOD BYE I refuse to waste any more time on you who are damned- you make the choice for your soul- not me!!! I'm a CHRISTIAN- GOD LOVES ME!!! He has patience for you- but for how long!! EAKE UP before it is too LATE!! Seraphim Rose

  • What a load of nonesense- chanting, praying to an IDOL!!! The PERFECT harmony, peace and joy not only to the soul of man but reaching the world is from the SOURCE of PURE LOVE through the Prayer of the Heart: "Lord, Jesus Christ, Son of God have mercy on us, sinners" this is the POWERFUL and SPIRITUAL prayer of grace that should recited quietly in harmony to the soul not chutta chutta... bullshit of Eastern Oriental IDOLATRY- harming your very souls in worshipping the DEVIL

  • @gayrosesarered if you claim to be part of that lovely source, you wouldnt be going around saying that what others do is wrong and evil. it isint your right to condemn, neither will it be your job. whatever happend to treat others like you would like to be treated?

  • @SergeCWazukie funny you hide behind your veil of LIES and tell me what my role is. LISTEN I'm exposing what is true from what is bullshit!! It is my JOB for I am a Christian CALLED to evangelize the VERY TRUTH of Christ and GIVE you the chance in repentance to be saved!!

    EVIl is the BULLCRAP you are spreading with your idolatry!! The malice is your blindness to Christ!! You are BRAINWASHING innocent souls to the devil's lare!!

    THE TRUTH SPEAKS VOLUMES of itself!! SO GROW UP WILL YOU!!

  • @gayrosesarered humans and their misunderstood titles. you cant wear your religion as some sort of immunity forever, in the end its you who is making the choices and the thought, no one else! besides, you arent exposing anything but the arrogance of your people and all your teachers because what is evil about what these people are doing? if you cant accept the fact that others believe differently than you, then you have yet to learn what LOVE really is. i hope you wake up soon, youre far from it

  • @SergeCWazukie LOOK who is TALKING- FOOL!!! Christ who is BOTH the TRUE teacher, GOd and SAVIOR said: "I AM the WAY, the TRUTH and the LIFE" You obviously are a fuckwit cos you think LOVE is what you are doing and the devil will help you?!! FOOL CHRIST is WHO you are supposed to worship not HOMOSEXUALITY in an IDOL!!! SO GROW UP FOOL I pity you!!!

  • @gayrosesarered do you even hear how you sound? i guess he was right when he said that in the end of times the ignorant are willingly choosing to STAY ignorant. when it comes to learning you cant open your mind to any other ideas out of fear, so i dont expect you to evolve. but its your kind that deserves to be pitied because you will be left behind. all you can do is blare about things you memorized, hoping that youll be saved in the end, which you wont be. have a good life, and try to love!

  • @SergeCWazukie The concept of LOVE does not abide with you. You are ignorant and foolish. I am SAVED for I am in Christ!! Who will save you? a make belief god or the ancestors you worship? The devil can not save!! You live outside of Christ- you are nothing. I don't memorize love I live it. You don't KNOW God so don't speak with your ass.

  • @gayrosesarered never thought id see the words "speak with your ass" and "God" in the same sentance. good going "believer". the biggest thing about this conversation is, if i didnt say i worship the devil what gives you the right to put those words into my mouth? either way, arguing with someone like you is pointless because you never learn, as i SAID in te other posts. enjoy time while you can! but seriously calling yourself a believer but not acting on it makes NO sense at all :]

  • @SergeCWazukie All this drama started because you could not and are unable to admit the very truth that Christ, the Prayer of the Heart and the Gospel of Love speaks. Instead you have tried and FAILED to convince me of anything substantial. You attack and attack senselessly. I'm not a fool. You are not a CHRISTIAN you are a heathen. I have every right to condemn the heathen for it is your JUST help to wake you up. It will be TOO LATE at death. I am saved for I live in Christ- you dont!!

  • @gayrosesarered actually all this drama started because i dare speak up against someone who just scolds anything other than their own, which is unacceptable. i dont call myself christian because wearing that title around to show off to everyone else is meaningless, the source (God) knows who we all are anyhow, who are you trying to prove yourself to? humans or him? i may be a heathen in your eyes, but i wonder what YOU are in his. anyhow, love and light sir!

  • @SergeCWazukie HAHA!!! You don't know the meaning of God!! And I am proving my point!! I said right in the start to RECITE the Prayer of the Heart- LORD, JESUS CHRIST, SON OF GOD HAVE MERCY ON ME A SINNER the MOST powerful, TRUE prayer to all of us and you went off on another tangent. Why? BECAUSE YOU ARE DUMB!! DUMB!! again DUMB!!

    So to do us a favor I will not reply no longer because the animals KNOW Christ- but you know Buddha the DEVIL and u worship him.

  • @gayrosesarered YOU SHOW OFF to ever1 here your IDOL ways- everything which God detests. I am a Christian and PROUD!! You are an IDOL WORSHIPPER- so fuck the Buddha and say good bye to your soul. I pity you HEATHEN!!!

  • @gayrosesarered humph, the ol "oh my god im gona freak out when someone corners me!" no, im not dumb, you can tell by the way you scream out your lil words in hope that itll mean something against me. im not running with my tail in between my legs kid, you dont even know what youre saying! im done being nice to you, take a tip from me so you wouldnt get broken in the real world! dont just preach words you read over, learn them first THEN MAYBE you speak! go back to your black hole life coward!

  • @gayrosesarered No matter how well I defend the REAL TRUTh from all your bullshit- you are so DUMB, so FOOLISH and so warped in this demonic ideal of a religion- all my words are going on deaf ears. all I can do is PITY you- the lot of you and pray that God have mercy!!! For BUDDHA who is in HELL will not save you, nor your stupid way of life. Christ the True Teacher said to be careful of the enemy who can destroy the soul and body- you who worship the devil bring this damnation onto yourselves!

  • @gayrosesarered *YAWN* *YAWN* *YAWN*... YOU WILL BE VERY SORRY both at your death and at the GREAT JUDGMENT OF CHRIST HEATHEN- you have been FINALLY WARNED!!! You will be sorry and no poofter Buddha or any other IDOL will come to save your SORRY ASSES!! Mark my words- may GOD have mercy!!! Don't waste your precious time in both the darkness of IDOLATRY nor your time in WORSHIPPING BULLSHIT- but PRAY the JESUS PRAYER- its your only hope!! LORD, JESUS CHRIST, SON OF GOD HAVE MERCY ON ME A SINNER!!

  • Could you chant it in English or ones native language. It seems to me the connections would be better but I know nothing of chanting so I basically just curious about how it works. I was thinking chanting both the traditional way and in English. Is that wrong?

  • @uilium if you go to the Youtube search bar and type in chanting daimoku in english hopefully that should help you out otherwise I don't really think that there is an english translation for this chant! Quite simply, nam myoho renge kyo or better still you can go to the sgi web site for further information!

  • @califgirl101 thank you :)

  • SGI, Ikeda I would NEVER trust

  • Any chant that bring us to get to know our mind closly or become stable or bring us to get peace in mind or be able to see our mind when we are greedy, angry or under a delusion, that is a good chant. Buddhism is just an easy way like this.

  • I can't believe this is the way of our Buddhism worship, the way Buddhist chant. It's too fast for me, I am habitual in a slow style like in Thailand. Near my house, there is one kind of Buddhism also that so different from the major Buddist in general. But all I believe they love peace in mind. One thing we should always remember that any group we join is following the way of Buddha or not, be free mind not under a delusion to go on your right way.

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  • i want this prayer in written please

  • wow people are stupid... thinking chanting a stupid phrase will change a damn thing, how about instead of saying RINGYMONGNOKAO 500 times you actually go out and do something good for the world. fucking morons.

  • @BowToMySkill You may call us Morons all you want to.. but what you fail to understand is that when we chant, it gives us that drive to reach our potential and attain enlightenment. We do good for the world as well and we strive to bring peace.. We are normal people who have jobs and raise families.. So before you say that the phrase is stupid, maybe you need to think about your life situation and karma, and change it!!!

  • @Skylicheroxxx09 if you want to attain "enlightenment" then read a fucking book, dont hum RINGYMONGOKAO

  • @BowToMySkill You negligence is what makes America what it is today.. Because of people like you who want to continuously bash the organization, it's doing nothing but making us stronger people! How about you try chanting that phrase that you say is so stupid for a whole month and you will change how you feel about Buddhist people.. I challenge you dude.. or are you so stuck in your ways not to accept!!!!

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  • @Skylicheroxxx09 It makes no difference you are so fucking dumb you don't get it!! Your chants is chutta..chutta.. who are you chanting to? No one the devil. What peace?? If it wasn't for Christian Monasteries and Churches that PRAY DIRECTLY to God for the peace of the world the DEVIL would have rotten all of our souls in hell by now!! Give me a break with your crap- you want to learn and experience PEACE, LOVE and FEEL/ TASTE Christ Who sweet and true...

  • @Skylicheroxxx09 As I was saying- come and I will teach you, invite you to WITNESS, to EXPERIENCE to TASTE Christ. I know my life, I am peace for I have Christ.

    You are more than STUPID my dear one- you are BLIND and a ZOMBIE for you live your whole life in darkness and not only FUCK IT UP but you FUCK up your children and the world!! NO BUDDHA NOR HIS PHILOSOPHY WILL SAVE YOU BEFORE THE GREAT JUDGEMENT SEAT OF CHRIST MORON- Don't talk back to me!! Your mouth is as DIRTY as your ASS HOLE!!

  • @gayrosesarered Sorry I don't learn from hypocrites like you. and ur one of the main reasons why I refuse to go back to church!!! and I will say whatever I want u evil asshole!!! Like I said, u try to teach the gospel but u cuss me out in the same sentence.. Wonder how does that make you feel!! I refuse to listen to what u have to say so ur words are meaningless. you can actually stop now!! before I report you for harassment. and you don't want that dont u

  • @gayrosesarered

    may you be free from suffering and ignorance.

    to teach with respect one must teach by example.

    to be without respect for the suffering and ignorant is to propagate tyranny.

  • @evelsteev listen, what im trying to say is that the SGI is just a way for buddhists to come together to chant. from what ive read in this thread people have a problem with ikeda, but the SGi isnt about ikeda its about buddhism. people chant because it works for them. thats what all religions do. and speaking to an atheist: there is a difference between being non-religious and anti-religious.

  • @evelsteev listen, what im trying to say is that the SGI is just a way for buddhists to come together to chant. from what ive read in this thread people have a problem with ikeda, but the SGi isnt about ikeda its about buddhism. people chant because it works for them. thats what all religions do. and speaking to an atheist: there is a difference between being non-religious and anti-religious.

  • @evelsteev hes a prominent figure. money isnt everything. why are you focusing so much on him anyway? im defending him because i respect him. what matters is chanting/praying. people chant because nothing else has worked for them. this is what religion is, people trying to find solace in hard times. its one thing to be non-religious and another thing to be anti-religious

  • @evelsteev hes a prominent figure. of course he has money. it does not matter. why is it that having money inherantly is evil? its not like hes scamming people out of it. people like him, people donate, im very sure you will say this is brainwash but these people are never forced to pay any money. people chant. they chant because nothing else has worked for them. if its a placebo affect or not does not matter. if it works for them then it works for them. thats what religion is

  • why do you chant soo fast?  Slowly .

  • I see that a lot of people say a lot of bla bla.. in their comments, well, words won't convince nobody, just your actions will do....do the right thing for yourself, well, if you are able, sure ;-)

  • Thanks for uploading this. <3

  • Sure you can. It's very simple: Emotions come from our thoughts. And thoughts come from us. They don't come from trees, rocks, or even other people. Its all within us. If we chose over stupidity and blind allegiance, we can, and ARE happy.

  • I'm not a Buddhist, and I'm NOT suffering. Buddha was full of crap, because not everyone suffers. These people are in a cult. Talking to a paper inside a box, does absolutely nothing. It's just a way to make you delirious, and waste hours of your life (you're supposed to chant longer and longer) chanting these meaningless words. There is no "cause and effect" outside humanity! They chanted for world peace by 2000, and it never came! Nonsense!

  • @MacoutesGabber U mis understand the meaning of suffering in buddhism

  • @Yamarukun that's because I don't suffer. Suffering is a generalization. Some people suffer, some don't.

  • @MacoutesGabber Yes you do. But u mis understand the suffering in Buddhism thats why you say you don't suffer.

  • @MacoutesGabber All Buddhists don't chant. Buddhism is supposed to be a way of life, not a religion.

  • @TatariD I wasn't referring to the Buddhists that don't chant. I'm talking about the whacko cult, up above. I was in it for years. No thanks.

  • @rearendlover Its not a cult at all, its a world peace organization, question: what was russia doing during the vietnam war? answer: they were talking peace negotiations with japanese representatives (japan partly speaking on behalf of america, since after the cuban missle crisis russo-american relations slowly began to recover) that japanese representatives name was Daisaku Ikeda, the president of SGI

  • @zninja141 People who are in cults, don't KNOW they're in cults. Sokka Gakkai is listed in the cult awareness network for a reason.

  • @evelsteev can you give me five examples as to why the SGI seems like a cult?

  • @zninja141 They have rallies where they are emotionally chanting about Ikeda, and commanding to become ONE with Ikeda, and "protect" him, are very clever. You do that to people 1000x, and Ikeda will begin to dominate the mind of that follower. Its all done deliberately, and carefully. That is one aspect of SGI that has not been properly analyzed and explained yet.

  • @evelsteev ok 1) these "rallys" are no different from other regligios gatherings where we come together to chant/pray/etc... 2) we dont wish to become one with Ikeda, he is a man who leads the SGI and people look up to him as an educator or leader but we look at him like we would any other president of anything 3) we look up to Ikeda, we want to protect him because we respect him (its like having someone else harm a friend) (cont)

  • @evelsteev (Cont) 5) unless you consider faith in a religion "Mind control" then there is no such thing in the SGI. what disappoints me most is that the SGI is not a religion, its an organization that builds itself on Nichiren Buddhism and al it wants to do is to join Nichiren Buddhist together to chant since outside of japan it is very spread out. All that Ikeda does is educate people who are ignorant of Nichiren Buddhism and the SGI, like most people on this thread. (Cont)

  • @evelsteev (Cont2) If you actually put some time in learning about Nichiren Buddhism and the SGI and have some constuctive evidence of your argument then you may be able to get a point across, even i supported mine with historical evidence that proves that Ikeda works for other peoples benefit, he may have political power in japan but in the other 190 countries this doesnt matter, the SGI is just a way that Buddhist can come together and chant and work to a common goal, whatever that may be

  • @evelsteev oh i missed 4) (well its more of five) pretty sure that when your overall point is that SGI members are subject to mind control (when i specifically asked for five seperate reasons) and that there is plenty of stuff that happens in secret, people are entitled to their opinion so unless if you are a stoic atheist i need to tell you that secrecy is everywhere, whether its good or bad it doesnt matter, it happens everywhere, religion is no different. (cont)

  • @evelsteev (cont) my point is that while people see the SGI as a cult, they also see Nichiren Buddhism as a cult as well, and the SGI by all means is NOT a cult, there is no brainwashing, you are never forced to do anything you dont want, stating that your quitting the practice will give you the same reaction if it was any other religion, we see Ikeda as a teacher, you are NEVER shut off from "outsiders", everyone is welcome to trying the practice, you DONT need to be buddhist to chant, (cont2)

  • @evelsteev and as a teacher what Ikeda wants to do is to educate people on Nichiren Buddhism and what the SGI is about, self improvement and caring for other people (what ALL religions should be about). If after my lengthy diatribe you still think this is still a wacko cult then you are either an ignoramous who needs to study more before starting an argument on this subject or you are just trolling me

  • @zninja141 So what are you going to do when he dies?

  • @evelsteev do stuff on our own, we dont need him. the SGI has more than one leader and they can take care of most of the stuff. what he teaches is self determination and self reliance as well. i dont think that you can accept that we see him as a father figure but for many people thats what he is

  • @zninja141 Most cults have a father figure. Name one cult that doesn't. You either need him or you don't. It can't be both.

  • @evelsteev our father who art in heaven?

  • @zninja141 you sure treat Ikeda like that.

  • @evelsteev people are like that because they like him, is they anything wrong with liking someone?

  • @zninja141 liking someone is one thing, but calling someone "leader" is another. Especially for decades.

  • @evelsteev well thats what he is, hes the president of the SGI, how is that differant from people in the UK calling the Queen by her regality, or or looking at people looking at Bill Gates at the CEO of microsoft? and his being in that place is nothing tyrannical in any nature, the first was Makaguchi who died in prison during WW2 for trying to spread nichiren buddhism, it was then his student Toda who then gave it to his student Ikeda after he died. Everyone in the SGI is Ikedas student (cont)

  • @zninja141 People can denounce Bill Gates, The Queen of England, and so on, and not be called slanderous. Cults often call denouncement of the father figure leader as "slander," "blasphemy" etc, to cause guilt, and keep them in line. I'm so glad I left that cult so many years ago.

  • @evelsteev but its not, Ikeda is no prophet, hes just a teacher, sure people will have their opinions but he has nothing to do with your practice outside of possible education. Im not saying your slandering by denouncing ikeda im saying your slandering by calling the SGI a cult regardless of the fact that it has no evidence of being a cult outside of people like you who think it is. seriously i'm just trying to defend something that brings buddhist together, my point is SGI is not a religion

  • @zninja141 try leaving the SGI right, now, and see what reaction you get. It's cult, get over it. I did.

  • @evelsteev leave a church nd the same shit will happen, happened to me, its not a cult. get over yourself

  • @zninja141 I DID leave a church, and nothing happened. Furthermore, they don't hold a mortal human as a "teacher" and "leader." I'm not only atheist but anti-cult as well. When I left SGI, I got all these annoying phone calls and psychological tactics to come back and do all that mindless, annoying crap they make you do. No thanks. Have fun in your mind-control cult.

  • @evelsteev teacher = educator, ikeda teaches people who dont know what nichiren buddhism is about, he educates them, how hard is that to understand?

  • @zninja141 teachers can get criticized, cult leaders however cannot, or else they get the psychological guilt trip. That's not hard to understand for the REST of us, outside of the cult. How is Daisaku Ikeda any different from Kim Jong il?

  • @evelsteev he doesnt hold an entire country in a nuclear chokehold or force an entire country into communism thus resticting their rights an opportunities? last time i remember he's a promoter of the discontinuation of nuclear arms

  • @zninja141 It's same effect: nuclear choke hold or accusation of slander and disobedience. Both require ultimate faith and utmost devotion. You cannot stray, or else fear the consequences. You're trying to weight the "moral" weights against each other, but the essence is exactly the same. I'm 40 and cult-free, it's the way for me.

  • @evelsteev also theres really no effort to it, just dont go to the meetings, big deal

  • According to friends of mine, who live in Japan,the upper echelons of SGI, are fabulously wealthy, and more disturbing things- they are very political, and even maintain communes in Japan, guarded, gated apartment blocks where members live, and aren't really allowed much outside contact. I don't need cults like that in my life.

  • @evelsteev yes but in the 190 other countries where this holds no purpose its exactly that. we are only as involved in the SGI as we allow ourselves to be. politics are politics. and as far as the gated communities go i have japanese friends as well and i dont know how valid that statement is. i dont know what your chapter did to you but i have been in this for many years and i have never once been made to do anything i didnt want to do, nor have i seen any sort of cult-like activities

  • @zninja141 The inconsistency is confusing. But like I said, have fun in your homogenized psychology. North Korea learned a lot from Ikeda.

  • @evelsteev as much as i would love to end this argument i have to say that north korea is communist (stricktly atheist) for reasons completely seperate from anything Ikeda could ever have done

  • @zninja141 There's really no argument, since both movements are cults. End of story.

  • @zninja141 There's really no argument. Both movements don't allow independent thinking.