@TheWhiteRose161718 a lot more innocent civilians have been killed who were merely there at the wrong place and time. fuck the soldiers, they went there to kill and i could care less if they come back dead without limbs. any educated person knows its the US government that is more dangerous then iraq iran or any other "terrorist" country
The Founding Fathers restricted the definition of treason in the U.S. Constitution to, “Treason against the United States shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort….”
"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, & the gospel of envy; ...the equal sharing of misery.". ~ Winston Churchill...more from the "patriot" gallery...reality as it is or as losers like yourself made it?"
Foreign Minister Lieberman formulates series of tough moves in response to Turkish steps; Israel to cooperate with Armenian lobby in US, may offer military aid to Kurdish rebels share Jerusalem to punish Erdogan: Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman has decided to adopt a series of harsh measures in response to Turkey's latest anti-Israeli moves...
The clowns that defend the US arming of Saddam in the 1980s are the same fools that then like to bring up Saddam's atrocities against the Shi'a and Kurds of Halabja to justify the 2003 illegal imperialist invasion of defenseless Iraq. Of course the gas Saddam used on the Kurds and Iranians was provided by the US government, pathetic US government apologists! Also trying to cite the "hostages" in Iran is pathetic as it was earlier imperialist US policy in Operation Ajax of 1953 that was wrong.
The idiots who try to defend the US government's backing of Saddam are often the same people who like to bring up Saddam's crimes against the Shi'a and Kurds of Halabja; all while the US was giving Saddam chemical weapons. Oh yeah and those who like to take about Iran's taking US "hostages"; read "All the Shah's Men" about the 1953 Operation Ajax coup by the CIA that overthrew Mossadeq all because the greedy US and British thieves didn't want Iran to nationalize their own oil reserves!
Friend, would you rather have the mad mullahs in Iran controlling both Iran and Iraq? And read up on the criminal law, as the criminal law recognizes the defense of choice of lesser evil. That's our defense in this instance. As I've posted elsewhere, according to SIPRI, the US was the 11th largest arms supplier to Iraq during the period 1981-2001. France, Germany, Russia, and China led the way. Lastly, and by the way, for your own hypocrisy, Chomsky is an apologist for the Khmer Rouge.
The U.S. was shipping chemicals for WMD to Saddam via Europe.
So what if Russia sent more arms to Saddam than the U.S? The Russians didn't invade Iraq on the pretext of disarming Saddam of weapons sold to him & thus are not hypocritical in this regard.
Christopher Hitchens has written an excellent article in defense Chomsky's supposed apologetics for Pol Pot.
Also, the U.S. was responsible for as many deaths as Pol Pot in Cambodia, check Ben Kiernan's figures.
See: "U.S. Companies Tied to Chemical Sales", New York Times.
"Rumsfeld 'offered help to Saddam'", The Guardian.
"This was a guilty verdict on America as well", The Independent.
As to the US Govt role in it's companies sending chemicals: "Iraq had been on the list of states supporting terrorism. In 1982, Reagan took them off that list so that the US could start supplying them with...means to develop weapons of mass destruction." - "On the Middle East Crisis", The Citizen"
@CapitalistHolocaust Wrong, the U.S. only give him dual weapons to Saddam Hussein which could be made out of chemical weapons but the one we gave him was not itself a chemical weapon. The vast majority of direct chemical and biological weapons were given by Europe and some Latin American countries. Fact's the fact. And you don't have proof if the U.S. shipping WMDs via Europe, If are you saying that we owned a lot of companies in Europe then you seriously misguided.
Iran considers All of Persia there's.I support any attempts not to have to use a nuclear bomb again.Would you prefer we don't manage the world and just wait until we have to drop nuclear bombs.
Our interference causes more problems than it solves. Let's look at Iran since you mention it:
Iran was becoming a democracy in the early 1900s. Then in 1921, the British crushed that budding democracy & installed the ruthless Reza Shah.
He allowed us to steal (buy at colonial prices) all their oil.
Democracy began to revive again in the 50's in the shape of Mossedegh. When he attempted to put a stop to British exploitation the British asked the U.S. to overthrow his government.
So the U.S. overthrew the emerging democracy of Mossedegh in '53 & reinstalled Reza Shah's son.
The CIA trained his secret police, the SAVAK, who were as brutal as the gestapo. They tortured & killed 30,000 people.
The U.S./U.K. sponsored repression of the people led to the uprisings in '79, which were swiftly exploited by the extremists & turned in the Islamic revolution.
If we'd left well alone, Iran would now be a flourishing democracy & not what it is.
@tonykartyz125 wow. you still believe your tv? Get some info please, because you are being lied to. There is much less need to interfere in the freedom of the wolrd, than there is need to change your country's govt + media.
Dude, inform yourseld with what the rest of the world thinks about the US, because your info sucks atm.
Your "Federal Bank" is privately owned. It will be audited finally. People like you (there are MANY) will step out of their media cocoon and start learning.
كس ام امريكا على اليهود على اشرف واحد في اوروبا ولو انه مافيش شريف اصلا وكل ستات امريكا عن بكرة ابيهم كلهم شراميط وعاهرات ومصاصين زبر ويشربو الكته تفووووووووو على هيك شعوب
this is amazing....why do americans stay stupid? thats what i want to know....you've got all these videos of how the "real" america works but the people are all in denial...simply amazing...
Please, check out the declassified U.S. State Dept. cable (link in the video info section) which clearly instructs their UN delegate to block the resolution condemning Saddam for use of Chemical Weapons back in '84.
The document is housed at the National Security Archive so we know it is authentic.
I hate to tell you, but not only Iran alert the World's press to the scene of the Halabja gassings in '88, but they went to the UN (again) to try to condemn Saddam's use of CW.
Not only did the international press say that all indications were that Saddam was the culprit, but the soil samples tested by Portdon Down proved that Saddam was.
Beyond that, the declassified CIA & State Dept. reports state that Saddam was using gas against Kurds & Iranians on an almost 'daily basis'.
Okay, there is Stephen Pelletiere (who worked for the CIA) who says that there is a DIA report that states that the Iranians may have used gas in the attack too, but, not only is that the only evidence that suggests this, he even admits that this report could have been 'cooked'. Go watch the video: "The Halabja Incident" where he admits that.
The U.S. of course, was pro-Saddam at the time & not only blocked the '88 UN resolution condemning him for CW use, but also blocked the resolution in '84.
You do not want to see the truth. Today Iran is bombing Kurdish villages as it did previously. Iraq did not have mustard gas but iran had it . Search the Iran Gate scandal.
As I said, the ONLY evidence that exists that suggests that Iran was involved in the gassing at Halabja is a U.S. DIA report which even Stephen Pelletiere (ex CIA) suggests may have been 'cooked' (listen to your OWN video).
We can't trust the DIA report, because the U.S. were not only pro-Saddam at the time, they'd even blocked 3 UN resolutions condemning Saddam's use of gas, one in '84, in '86 & again in '88 (Halabja attack).
Plus, Pelletiere was following the U.S. line which was totally against a Kurdish independent state in the region.
Go check out Pelletiere's bibliography. In 1984 he published a book called:
"The Kurds: An Unstable Element in the Gulf"
Pelletiere was as against the Kurds gaining an independent Kurdish State, because his bosses, the CIA/America were against the Kurds getting an independent state.
Hence, the U.S. helped Saddam gas them, in many ways.
do u trust Rafsanjani <Rafsanjani, speaking in the program" Iran and the West" on the BBC. He said he had asked the United Nations to change its report on the war with Iraq, in exchange for the Americans in Lebanon{ Do you know what this means. and u want facts, today, Iran shelled Kurdish villages in northern Iraq
The Iranians bombed villages they claim hold PJAK guerrillas (PKK splinter) N.Iraq & in Iran itself, probably in retaliation for the recent clashes.
A year or two ago, George Bush put the PKK onto the list of terrorist organizations to allow the Turkish to kill the PKK Kurds that were fighting with them on the borders & in N. Iraq.
America has a long history of helping people kill Kurds. They helped Saddam & in the 90's Clinton sent Turkey planes to help them slaughter Kurds.
Turkey also became the greatest recipient of U.S. Military aid at this time & they flattened several Kurdish villages.
I'm not condoning Iran's actions here at all, but they are similar actions that America & Turkey have been taking against Kurds & the PKK since the 80's & 90's.
And they don't prove that Iran gassed the Kurds. The declassified CIA docs I have in the vid info prove that the CIA was aware that Saddam was gassing Kurds though & blocking UN resolutions condemning him for CW use.
Do you really find the fact that declassified U.S. State Dept. docs clearly show that America blocked a U.N. resolution condemning Saddam Hussein for use of Chemical Weapons in 1984?
The declassified State Dept. cable instructs the U.S. delegate to garner a motion of 'no decision' amongst Western diplomats.
Considering the U.S. used saddam's use of CW as a sub-pretext for the current invasion, don't you find that interesting?
What's wrong? Are you scared that if you put more than two letters together I'll be able to prove you wrong?
It's clear that you aren't able to refute that the U.S. blocked the UN draft resolution condemning Saddam's use of Chemical Weapons (since I have a link to the declassified document instructing their UN delegate to do so from the National Security Archive).
Most people, if they are being honest with themselves, would find this astonishing hypocrisy startling, let alone interesting.
That is hysterical and informative at the same time. The terrible shame is it's all true. We are all manipulated constantly and relentlessly by the propagandist press and 'events' designed to distract us from what's really going on. Sometimes I wonder if the guys at the top are just renegades or have any idea themselves what's really going on. If it's all completely just cowboy land out of control, yet they manage to control us so well.
If you Google "Dutch businessman convicted Iraq WMD," the first link is a timesonline story from Dec 24, 2005 article that reads "A DUTCH businessman was found guilty of war crimes and sentenced to 15 years in prison yesterday for helping Saddam Hussein to acquire the chemical weapons that he used to kill thousands of Kurdish civilians in the Iran-Iraq war." A Dutch businessman sells Saddam chemicals, Russia sells him MiGs, France sells him Mirages, and Mr soccer riot rants about Hughes helos.
I hate to inform you that The Netherlands is a member of the hostile military alliance that is dominated by the U.S. called NATO. There is still, even to this day, a US military presence in the Netherlands.
It's well known that U.S. firms sent chemicals to Saddam via Europe for untraceability. Go check out the top 5 senders of chemical precursors to Iraq on Wikipedia, you will find that only ONE of the top 5 countries doesn't have a U.S. military base.
It's well known that the French even flew on missions for Saddam during the Iran/Iraq war, just as it's known that the U.S. ran navy missions for Saddam...the Iranian airbus 655 was shot down on such a mission.
You obviously aren't denying that the US blocked the resolution condemning Saddam's use of Chemicals.
Because you can't, it's backed up by declassified records.
The main problem you have is pointing a finger at France is that they didn't later invade Iraq on the pretexts of WMD.
I never "pointed a finger," I noted factually that France provided some of the jet fighters the BBC reported took part in the chemical attacks, and a Mirage F-1 or Mirage 2000 is infinitely more effective for carrying and deploying chemical bombs than a light 4 seat Hughes 300C. MiG-27, MiG-29, Su-25, Mi-24 Hind D and Mi-17s were also in Saddam's air force, but you're in a twist about a batch of 4 seat light observation helicopters because they were US. Enjoy your soccer riots and kidney pie.
The U.S. & the U.K. invaded Iraq on the pretexts of WMD, not France & Russia!
You are not denying that the U.S. & U.K. supported Saddam throughout his worst atrocities, because you can't, it's on the internal record.
You are not denying that the U.S. helped Saddam continue using Chemical Weapons by blocking a UN resolution against his use of CW, because you can't, it's on the internal record.
I hate to inform you that a Dutch businessman was convicted for helping Saddam Hussein to acquire the chemical weapons that he used to kill thousands of Kurdish civilians in the Iran-Iraq war, not The Netherlands and not NATO, and any jagoff can post ANYTHING on Wiki. Let's see, you hate NATO, France & the US, and you pretend the USS Vincennes incident was a covert mission for Iraq and not a BLUNDER by the US Navy, who shot down an airliner when they thought they were under attack and weren't.
Military equipment & materials are often sent via companies. It provide perfect plausible denyability for Govts.
Search for the NYT article:
U.S. Companies Tied to Chemical Sales
It suggests that Van Anraat bought Chemicals from an American firm.
"The businessmen allegedly purchased the chemicals from Alcolac International, a Baltimore chemical manufacturer already linked to the illegal shipment of chemicals to Iran."
The Nu Kraft Mercantile Corporation of Brooklyn purchased four shipments of the chemical from Alcolac between November 1987 and March 1988.
"four shipments went to..[other places and]..the Netherlands.
three of the shipments were sent to Jordan
Jordan is a common transshipment point to Iraq
Italian authorities arrested Frans Van Anraat, a Dutch citizen who is identified in court papers here both a European representative and a customer of Nu Kraft"
Or better still, check out Navy Commander David R.Carlson eyewitness account from the Navy's official journal: "The Vincennes incident" Proceeding: U.S. Naval Institute.
Commander Carlson seems to completely contradict the official version:
"When the decision was made to shoot down the Airbus, the airliner was climbing, not diving; it was showing the proper identification friend or foe -- I.F.F. (Mode III); and it was in the correct flight corridor..."
An eyewintess account differs from those of other eyewitnesses? It couldn't POSSIBLY be that one eyewitness remembers the incident differently than the rest of the eyewitnesses, could it? No, it has to that all the rest of the eyewitnesses are lying members of a conspiracy, right?
What was the Vincennes doing in Iranian territorial waters? Keeping the Strait of Hormuz open for international trade. Saudia Arabia, Kuwait, Oman and the UAE still wanted to SELL oil on the world market. The mullahs & ayatollahs had every right to close it, right? I21 miles wide at the narrowest point and as such, hard NOT to be in Iranian waters. The medals were not given for shooting down an airliner, they were given for serving in a combat zone. "Initially"? How about "finally"?
"You are the most indoctrinated zealot I have come across on the whole internet."
Anybody who lives in a country with a free press and disagrees with YOU is a "zealot,"eh? Glad to be a zealot, and you should be glad you're not criticizing Islamic zealots, who'd kill you for it rather than post stuff here. Ever traveled the Middle East? I have. I've lived there. You want "zealots," that's where to find them. I'm GLAD the US won WWII & Cold War and is winning the war on Islamic terror.
That 'free' press didn't bother to inform you that the U.S. slaughtered 1 million people in Indonesia & East Timor (via proxy Suharto), it didn't bother to inform you that the CIA & MI6 sent death lists, it didn't bother to inform you that the U.S. slaughtered 600,000 in Cambodia with a 9 year bombing campaign & funding Lon Nol's insurgency, or that the U.S. overthrew 18 Govt's in L.America.
The American 'free' press is the most effective propaganda system in the world.
Just as privately run companies can more effectively provide services than state controlled sectors, so can the privately ran 'free' press more effectively institute propaganda.
You seem to forget that the rich elites own the Media & have vested interests in hiding U.S. imperialism.
Anyway, you made the mistake of thinking Commander Carlson was the only one shared his opinion, he wasn't.
You should read the journal.
I'll cite more of it tomorrow, I'm going to bed now, it's late.
"rich elites own the Media & have vested interests in hiding U.S. imperialism" Tell me something I don't know--they just got a corrupt rookie fraud named Obama elected. Those "rich elites" are not able to censor what I (or you) read web/book. I've read all about "US imperialism" by many, many authors, but I didn't STOP there. I've seen life in the Islamic world with my own eyes and know people who left their homes in Cuba & Czechoslovakia (then) behind to come here, US imperialism or not.
Whilst I do agree that it's not possible to censor everything (because there is no need to when the majority of people get their info from the mainstream media), many, many publications are in fact withdrawn because publishers do not agree with the contents.
For example, Warner Communications dropped one of Chomsky's books because of the statement that the U.S. had been the biggest instigator of bloodbaths since WWII.
The internet is a relatively new phenomenon, which they are only just attempting to regulate, which has been hard because of it's decentralized & truly democratized nature.
Still, google's search results are becoming more & more saturated with advertising (which could see pressure from companies on google for more regulation) & youtube (owned by google) has started algorythmically demoting videos for content to appease advertisers (supposedly non-political, but i've had videos demoted).
With regards to people fleeing Cuba to the U.S., they are bound to. The U.S. embargo on Cuba has crushed it economically. Still, it's a lovely place. I have acquaintances who holiday there regularly & they love the place.
People were also bound to flee from Czechoslovakia & other Communist countries, to places like the U.S. & Britain because even the least repressive Communist societies were pretty miserable.
They are bound to come to economically brighter countries that are domestically free.
But that doesn't excuse Imperialism, major support for terror & crushing of democracy abroad.
Plus, many people have also fled the Capitalist imposed dictatorships.
If I was in Guatemala (where the U.S. has been supporting major human rights abuses for decades) & wanted to escape torture, one of the safest places for me to flee would be America.
remember yahoo discusion rooms? i learned so much in there b4 it was bought n taken off air by a certain rich elitist group who's interest is for us Notto know the truth am afaid you tube may be going that way in a sattled kind of way also heard today is a Ru tube from Russia n of the videos i wanted to show to some friends the savage attack on the Liberty is been banned from you tube now also heard that the new generation of PCs n they'll have u r name address b4 u r allowed to visit anyside
Hmm yeh, have you noticed anything funny with google recently?
I'm not getting very good search results anymore. I used to be able to find dissident stuff & what have you at the drop of the hat, but stuffs getting further & further back.
If you Google "1988 Halabja gas attack," the second link is to a BBC story that reads as follows: "Thousands of people are reported to have been killed and many others injured in a poison gas attack on a Kurdish city in northern Iraq. Up to 20 aircraft, said to include Iraqi Migs and Mirages, were seen overhead at around 1100 local time in Halabja. " To the snarky, clueless brit who did the VO work, Russian MiGs and French Mirages are NOT "Hughes Helicopters." Was the BBC in it too?
Are you denying that Hughes helicopters were involved in the attack? Are you denying that Kurdish witnesses reported seeing U.S. made helicopters at the scene? This has been well reported & not just with my excellent source (democracy now).
Are you denying it because the BBC didn't mention it?
The BBC didn't mention that America & Britain killed 600,000 people in Indonesia via proxy Suharto. The CIA & MI6 sent death lists, this is acknowledged in declassified CIA docs (i've got links to them).
The BBC doesn't mention our complicity in many atrocities. Doesn't mean they didn't happen.
The BBC is state ran TV & the UK is the 'junior partner' to the U.S. crimes.
France is part of the same hostile military alliance as the U.K., the U.S., The Netherlands...ie NATO.
Much of the Western 'free' press didn't mention the US/UK complicity in the slaughter of 600,000 in Indonesia either btw. but it's backed up by irrefutable evidence (ie the internal record).
The BBC doesn't mention your complicity in many atrocities because the rantings of DN and on wiki are not factual, accurate, complete or newsworthy, and to whom is NATO a "hostile military alliance"? Oh, right--that "friendly" military alliance composed of AK-47 toting Communists that imprisoned or killed dissenters and had to build walls to keep people IN, at least until those worker's paradises collapsed of their own corruption. I'll take my chances in a free capitalist society every time.
The source for the CIA sending of death lists to Suharto in Indonesia is the CIA. It's acknowledged in a declassified CIA history report.
The fact that the Communist party in Indonesia was a peaceful party that was successfully advancing to take power democratically until, Suharto wiped them out is also noted in the CIA's 1968 report on Indonesia. I'll put a link to that up with my next video:
US/UK slaughter 600,000 in Indonesia.
BTW, Communism isn't the only alternative to Crony Capitalism.
What did Democracy Now say about Iraqi MiGs, Mirages and Mi-24 Hind Ds gunships?The only US helos sold to Iraq were 4 seat Hughes 300C models used for flight training and 10-12 seat Bell 214 utility transports. US and Italian police agencies use them both for civilian law enforcement. They were "seen"? They're "seen" all the time. So what? You're not too upset about the Mi-24 Hind D gunships and heavy Mi-17s that could actually carry much larger useful loads of chemical weapons, are you?
Democracy Now said nothing about them. Why would they? It's irrelevant, because France & Russia didn't invade Iraq on the pretext of WMD, whereas the U.K. & the U.S. did.
Dude, your cheesy video says explicitly that the US Hughes helicopters were sold to Iraq "to gas the Kurds with." Why are you and the leftards at DN so upset about 60 Hughes 300C 4 seat light observation helicopters and so totally apathetic about Iraq's ACTUAL arsenal of real WEAPONS? Oh, right--they're not US made. WMD was not the only reason Saddam's Iraq was invaded--Iraq hosted convetions of Islamic terror orgs, endorsed Islamic terror on 9/11/02 & called for more attacks in state media.
Firstly, that phrase was used partly as a joke to highlight that America seems to have done everything it could to slaughter Kurds throughout the region.
You will remember, & probably won't deny since it was aired on prime time TV, that George Bush incited the Kurdish populations to revolt alongside of the Shia rebellions at the end of the Gulf War & then totally failed to give them support.
Kurds were described as 'insurgents' in US docs to demonize them...
...The US blocked 2 UN resolutions condemning Saddam's use of gas, the second of which was the Halabja attack which the U.S. tried to blame on Iran initially.
& of course, Clinton sent planes to Turkey in the early 90's to help them crush the Kurds in the Rebellions there (at this time Turkey was the greatest recipient of U.S. military aid which was being used to heavily suppress the Kurds).
Secondly, so what if Saddam supported terror, the US is the greatest supporter of terror in the World.
Clinton sent planes to Turkey to enforce the no-fly zone Saddam agreed to per the terms of the cease-fire that ended the 1991 Gulf War--you know, the one that he LOST after he invaded Kuwait? Using your "logic," so what if Saddam supported terror, the US is the greatest supporter of terror, " you're defending Saddam's right to support terror and whining about the US being better at it? Wouldn't it be a beautiful world if the US had stayed neutral in WWII and left Europe to Hitler & Stalin?
"In the 1990s, it was the Kurdish population of Turkey that suffered the most brutal repression. Tens of thousands were killed, thousands of towns and villages were destroyed, millions driven from the lands and homes, with hideous barbarity and torture. The Clinton administration gave crucial support throughout, providing Turkey lavishly with means of destruction. In the single year 1997, Clinton sent more arms to Turkey..."
"...than the US sent to this major ally during the entire Cold War period combined up to the onset of the counterinsurgency operations. Turkey became the leading recipient of US arms, apart from Israel-Egypt, a separate category. Clinton provided 80% of Turkish arms, doing his utmost to ensure that Turkish violence would succeed. Virtual media silence made a significant contribution to these efforts."
Noam CHOMSKY???? Why not quote Michael Moore or Che himself? That FRAUD has gotten filthy rich SELLING socialism to doddering academics and fist pumping young dupes wearing Che t-shirts to their freshman Poli Sci classes. I always could count on Chomsky for a quote to throw at some of my leftard ex-hippie professors in college. A slam on US foreign policy from Norm was always a guarenteed A in their classes, where actual curriculum always took a backseat to their didactic pronouncements.
Noam Chomsky's work is impeccable. His approach to research is almost scientific.
He is one of the most well respected intellectuals in the World. Prospect magazine readers voted him the most important intellectual alive & he was the most cited living scholar throughout most of the 90's & even well into the 2000's.
Besides being a complete genius who totally revolutionized linguistics, he is probably the foremost political commentator on U.S. foreign policy.
I'm sure glad I never voted for Clinton. Tell me, what did the rest of the world do to help the plight of the Kurds? I mean besides wringing hands and crying about it?
The U.S. supported Saddam through his worst atrocities, killed far more people in the World than anybody else (since WWII), acted to crush democracy abroad more than anyone (overthrowing many democracies such as Iran, Guatemala, Brazil, Indonesia, Chile, etc), installed & supported countless dictators (app. 50 in L.America alone) & you think you can distract me by pointing out Saddam's crimes & then denounce me as a supporting Saddam for pointing out your hypocrisy.
Believe it. You could do a lot worse than have the US to complain about. If the US is the worst thing you've ever seen, it's evidence you haven't seen very much. We have no duty to sit idly by and watch Communists or Islamic militants turn any nation into bases for them to launch futher attacks and/or subvert more nations. You have to pretend leftists are just, fair and have the best interests of all the people in mind and they DON'T. Leftists are all about POLITICAL POWER for THEMSELVES.
It is amazing that despite these videos, there are people out there that refuse to believe that Reagan and Saddam were allies in the 1980s. Case in point: Skye820. This "woman" on youtube actually thinks that Reagan and Saddam had nothing to do with each other and were actually enemies. Do a search on youtube and find her name and see of her foolish rantings. Better yet, search this youtube cliip and post your comments: "West Chester Victory Rally Silent Night" Remind Skye of Reagan's friends!
why dont you try sealing a war to a nation of liberal dushbags.thats got a democratitc party to pander and lie to em and playcat them and make them feal like there doing someting for their country buy posing as activist.yeh. i do like carter for tring to get the hostages . i think he gets a bad rap.
good point muahaha iam german and i am suprised everytime how americans are controlled by private tv stations ova there... look at FOX news muahaha thats nothing that is worth to be called news they cut a newsbroadcast to show some robbery or police chase... its hilarious but way to sad that so many ppl think that shit showed on there... And u americans supported saddam and osama with weapons and money muahaha think straight... and real plz inform yaself not on fox not on youtube... damn so sad
and Saddam droped all those chemics and bombs on Iranians and his own people proudly ,and Romsfield shaked hand with him nicely ,and even UN didn't do anything frankly , and yet rudely west claims "Iran as a threat to world"?!
America overthrew the democratically elected Mossedegh in Iran in '53 in 'Operation ajax'.
America supported Saddam's War against Iran, even blocking Iran's draft UN resolution condemning Saddam's use of CW in '84 giving him the green light to gas Kurds & Iranians.
America shoots down Iranian airbus 655 killing 290 Iranian civilians.
America supports the brutal Israeli occupation.
America invades Iraq & yet Iran, NOT America is supposedly the threat!
On March 16 1988 using US supplied Bell helicopters, Iraqi forces launched a poison gas attack on the Iraqi Kurdish village of Halabja, killing 5000 people.
Just four months later, Washington stood by as the US giant Bechtel corporation won the contract to build a huge petrochemical plant that would give the Hussein regime the capacity to generate chemical weapons.
On September 8 1988 Congress passed the Prevention of Genocide Act, which would have imposed sanctions on the Hussein regime.
The White House used its influence to stall the bill for as long as possible. When Congress did eventually pass the bill, the White House refused to implement it.
Even the public outrage generated by the Halabja massacre did not cool the right's love for Saddam Hussein. So much for the moral high ground.
They got Iran to fight Iran then destroyed Iraq with a decade of sanctions then when it was on its knees and no threat they went in and finished the job....
Destroying Iraq has always been the Aim from day 1
Iran is not Arab and they gave the US greenlight to go into Iraq. The crap about invading Iran is psyops to accept the continued occupation of Iraq as the lessor of 2 evils.
Yes, then refused them any form of military support & effectively sent them to their graves.
Clinton sent military aid to the Turkish to bomb the Kurds in the North after the war too & more recently Bush jnr has branded the PKK in the North Terrorists to assist Turkish slaughter of Kurds further there.
As I think I said in an earlier comment, the only reason America is allowing the Kurdish State in the North is that it is aligned AND the US is desperate. It doesn't control much of Iraq.
Are you denying that it is on the declassified internal record that the U.S. instructed their UN delegate to garner support for a motion of 'no decision' for the draft UN resolution condemning Saddam's use of Chemical Weapons, failing that he should abstain & effectively veto it?
Are you really willing to destroy your credibility that much, when I have links to the actual document in the Video info section?
UN Weapons inspector Scott Ritter pointed out - when 1441 came up - that there was no evidence that Saddam had even acquired the technology necessary to resume his Nuclear Program & that any of the WMD Saddam may have managed to hide when inspectors pulled out in '98 would have become inert.
So who knows, he may have got rid of most of them in '98. It's irrelevant. If the U.S. hadn't blocked the '84 draft resolution on Saddam's use of CW they could have stopped the gassings in '88.
That's the most childish analysis of the situation I've ever heard.
Who knows? America didn't know, but presented evidence as if they did, in an attempt to justify an illegal invasion. An invasion Kofi annan stated was not given UN approval.
Why didn't they attack Suharto when he was slaughtering 100s of thousands of Indonesians? Why was the Rwanda genocide not considered a matter for intervention?
America has selective amnesia when it comes to atrocities of client Vs non-aligned states.
Yes, America wins & gets it's puppet regime to control the oil in Iraq, but a million people die in the process, a million people die due to sanctions leading up to it, a million people die in Indonesia (because a client's population does not make a worthy victim), a million die in Rwanda (because of no strategic interests).
Why are you so proud that your country allows it's client states (who do far worse than Saddam) get away with it? Why are u so proud that your government are Nazis?
To say you are quoting 'every' liberal who bashes US policy, is blatantly sweeping.
Let's imagine somebody did say this, it was probably in the context of a timescale. They probably recognize Saddam gassed the Kurds (with US help) & then later, after the gulf war, scaled down his wmd programs.
Once Saddam realised that his compliance was under pain of death (threat of war), he probably halted it completely & got rid of it all. So in effect had none.
"Earlier today, I ordered America's armed forces to strike military and security targets in Iraq. They are joined by British forces. Their mission is to attack Iraq's nuclear, chemical and biological weapons programs and its military capacity to threaten its neighbors.
Saddam Hussein must not be allowed to threaten his neighbors or the world with nuclear arms, poison gas or biological weapons."
Please go read the Declassified Docs in the Video info section, that quite clearly prove that the US instructed their UN delegate to block the Resolution condemning Iraqi use of chemicals in 84!
This is FACT! It's on the US internal, once Top Secret, now disclosed Record!
It gave Saddam the greenlight to gas the Kurds in '88.
The US then helped cover up the gassings in Halabja. Go check out the links vid:
BFD, this video doesn't prove anything. I can show you photos on google of Jaques Chirac(president of France) shaking Saddam Hussains on a deal for France to build him a fking Nuclear Reactor if you want. Lots of people did plenty of buisness with Saddam, untill the UN put international sanctions on Iraq.
You're either missing the point, or INTENTIONALLY obfuscating.
1. France never bombed Iraq
2. The US sold weapons to Hussein then later murdered over one million civilians claiming he had WMDS.
The US Govt KNEW he didn't have any as it had seen them destroyed after Gulf War I, but used it as an excuse to establish permanent bases and have ALL Oil leases go to US companies- which it has done. THAT was the "Mission Accomplished", not the LIE about bringing "Peace & Democracy"
Why don't you go & read the Declassified Documents in the Video info section, that quite clearly prove that America instructed their UN delegate to block the Resolution condemning Iraqi use of chemicals in 1984?
This is FACT! It's on the U.S. internal once Top Secret - Now disclosed Record!
It gave Saddam the greenlight to gas the Kurds in '88.
The US then helped cover up the gassings in Halabja in '88. Go check out the links vid:
Also; the Nato countries are all part of the Hostile military alliance that keeps Imperialism going for the Western nations. We all take turn to gangrape the third world nations, with military & diplomatic support.
Sometimes NATO countries offer help, sometimes not...e.g the UK (although a junior partner of the US) decided not to provide troops in Vietnam, whereas it has in Iraq, whereas France has decided not to.
Hope you mean the current Iraq War & not the Iran/Iraq War...as this was filmed in '83 AFTER the start of the Iran/Iraq war & AFTER the US administration became aware of Saddam's use of gas on an "almost daily basis", to quote the declassified documents.
I love it. Remember when Osama Bin Laden was working for the USA! I will be happy when the American empire collapses. Watch their stock market crash and laugh with me.
remember the romans? the bush administration is emulating their ways...not gonna end good for us here...gonna see some massive bloodshed in 100 years time, thank god i'll be dead...
6061 U.S. troops have been killed in battle since 9/11
TheWhiteRose161718 4 months ago
@TheWhiteRose161718 a lot more innocent civilians have been killed who were merely there at the wrong place and time. fuck the soldiers, they went there to kill and i could care less if they come back dead without limbs. any educated person knows its the US government that is more dangerous then iraq iran or any other "terrorist" country
Theethruth 3 months ago
The Founding Fathers restricted the definition of treason in the U.S. Constitution to, “Treason against the United States shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort….”
TheWhiteRose161718 4 months ago
Watch his reaction when questioned about this meeting. EPIC!!!
/watch?NR=1&v=IXWdBi6fw_k
born912 4 months ago
JMadPatriotJ Madison
"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, & the gospel of envy; ...the equal sharing of misery.". ~ Winston Churchill...more from the "patriot" gallery...reality as it is or as losers like yourself made it?"
TheWhiteRose161718 4 months ago
Foreign Minister Lieberman formulates series of tough moves in response to Turkish steps; Israel to cooperate with Armenian lobby in US, may offer military aid to Kurdish rebels share Jerusalem to punish Erdogan: Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman has decided to adopt a series of harsh measures in response to Turkey's latest anti-Israeli moves...
TheWhiteRose161718 4 months ago
Look...he slipped him ASPARTAME!
ryno99 4 months ago
Long live Shaheed Baqir Al-Sadr and Sadeq al-Sadr
Long live Khomeini and his revolution.
Long live al-jumhuriyya al-islamiyya
x69Crunchyx 8 months ago
Lol- I just made a "kurd gas" comment on another version of this. Glad to see there's no need to comment about that here... :P
newton2013 1 year ago
The clowns that defend the US arming of Saddam in the 1980s are the same fools that then like to bring up Saddam's atrocities against the Shi'a and Kurds of Halabja to justify the 2003 illegal imperialist invasion of defenseless Iraq. Of course the gas Saddam used on the Kurds and Iranians was provided by the US government, pathetic US government apologists! Also trying to cite the "hostages" in Iran is pathetic as it was earlier imperialist US policy in Operation Ajax of 1953 that was wrong.
themanishere4 1 year ago
The idiots who try to defend the US government's backing of Saddam are often the same people who like to bring up Saddam's crimes against the Shi'a and Kurds of Halabja; all while the US was giving Saddam chemical weapons. Oh yeah and those who like to take about Iran's taking US "hostages"; read "All the Shah's Men" about the 1953 Operation Ajax coup by the CIA that overthrew Mossadeq all because the greedy US and British thieves didn't want Iran to nationalize their own oil reserves!
themanishere4 1 year ago
TRUE: Saddam Hussein is an honourary citizen of Detroit.
Rata4You 1 year ago
LOL this vid.
Nice one
swingbeeper 2 years ago
Friend, would you rather have the mad mullahs in Iran controlling both Iran and Iraq? And read up on the criminal law, as the criminal law recognizes the defense of choice of lesser evil. That's our defense in this instance. As I've posted elsewhere, according to SIPRI, the US was the 11th largest arms supplier to Iraq during the period 1981-2001. France, Germany, Russia, and China led the way. Lastly, and by the way, for your own hypocrisy, Chomsky is an apologist for the Khmer Rouge.
slappymcgroundout 2 years ago
Iraq invaded Iran.
The U.S. was shipping chemicals for WMD to Saddam via Europe.
So what if Russia sent more arms to Saddam than the U.S? The Russians didn't invade Iraq on the pretext of disarming Saddam of weapons sold to him & thus are not hypocritical in this regard.
Christopher Hitchens has written an excellent article in defense Chomsky's supposed apologetics for Pol Pot.
Also, the U.S. was responsible for as many deaths as Pol Pot in Cambodia, check Ben Kiernan's figures.
CapitalistHolocaust 2 years ago
@CapitalistHolocaust Where your proof that U.S. was shipping chemical from Europe? Legit source?
Hperman09 4 months ago
@Hperman09
See: "U.S. Companies Tied to Chemical Sales", New York Times.
"Rumsfeld 'offered help to Saddam'", The Guardian.
"This was a guilty verdict on America as well", The Independent.
As to the US Govt role in it's companies sending chemicals: "Iraq had been on the list of states supporting terrorism. In 1982, Reagan took them off that list so that the US could start supplying them with...means to develop weapons of mass destruction." - "On the Middle East Crisis", The Citizen"
CapitalistHolocaust 2 months ago
@CapitalistHolocaust Wrong, the U.S. only give him dual weapons to Saddam Hussein which could be made out of chemical weapons but the one we gave him was not itself a chemical weapon. The vast majority of direct chemical and biological weapons were given by Europe and some Latin American countries. Fact's the fact. And you don't have proof if the U.S. shipping WMDs via Europe, If are you saying that we owned a lot of companies in Europe then you seriously misguided.
Hperman09 2 months ago
@slappymcgroundout You're an idiot! The U.S. supplied both Iraq and Iran with weapons!
MSH786 1 year ago
@slappymcgroundout The mad mullahs are the demonics in the Pentagon.
charlesfrith 7 months ago
saddam was physically imposing
S1deWind3r 2 years ago
Only proof that its a rough world out there.
Iran considers All of Persia there's.I support any attempts not to have to use a nuclear bomb again.Would you prefer we don't manage the world and just wait until we have to drop nuclear bombs.
tonykartyz125 2 years ago
Our interference causes more problems than it solves. Let's look at Iran since you mention it:
Iran was becoming a democracy in the early 1900s. Then in 1921, the British crushed that budding democracy & installed the ruthless Reza Shah.
He allowed us to steal (buy at colonial prices) all their oil.
Democracy began to revive again in the 50's in the shape of Mossedegh. When he attempted to put a stop to British exploitation the British asked the U.S. to overthrow his government.
CapitalistHolocaust 2 years ago
So the U.S. overthrew the emerging democracy of Mossedegh in '53 & reinstalled Reza Shah's son.
The CIA trained his secret police, the SAVAK, who were as brutal as the gestapo. They tortured & killed 30,000 people.
The U.S./U.K. sponsored repression of the people led to the uprisings in '79, which were swiftly exploited by the extremists & turned in the Islamic revolution.
If we'd left well alone, Iran would now be a flourishing democracy & not what it is.
CapitalistHolocaust 2 years ago 2
@tonykartyz125 wow. you still believe your tv? Get some info please, because you are being lied to. There is much less need to interfere in the freedom of the wolrd, than there is need to change your country's govt + media.
Dude, inform yourseld with what the rest of the world thinks about the US, because your info sucks atm.
Your "Federal Bank" is privately owned. It will be audited finally. People like you (there are MANY) will step out of their media cocoon and start learning.
I love YOUmans
keetlap 2 years ago
this is a disrespect to what happen to us kurds.
plis remove this vid
BarzaniiiJASH 2 years ago
Hi BarzaniiiJASH,
sorry that you find this disrespectful to Kurds. It is meant to be disrespectful towards U.S. foreign policy.
The video, in particular the links in the vid info section, highlight the role the U.S. had in Saddam's atrocities against the Kurds.
It is meant to show how the U.S. helped Saddam kill the Kurds.
CapitalistHolocaust 2 years ago
well im cirtainly a fan of your work
JLRedLion 2 years ago
كس ام امريكا على اليهود على اشرف واحد في اوروبا ولو انه مافيش شريف اصلا وكل ستات امريكا عن بكرة ابيهم كلهم شراميط وعاهرات ومصاصين زبر ويشربو الكته تفووووووووو على هيك شعوب
arabichotsexy 2 years ago
LMAO
BizarroStu 2 years ago
this is amazing....why do americans stay stupid? thats what i want to know....you've got all these videos of how the "real" america works but the people are all in denial...simply amazing...
bama1474 2 years ago
Please, check out the declassified U.S. State Dept. cable (link in the video info section) which clearly instructs their UN delegate to block the resolution condemning Saddam for use of Chemical Weapons back in '84.
The document is housed at the National Security Archive so we know it is authentic.
CapitalistHolocaust 2 years ago
the Truth < iran did gas the kurd not iraq , see Video Responses
vivairaqi 2 years ago
I hate to tell you, but not only Iran alert the World's press to the scene of the Halabja gassings in '88, but they went to the UN (again) to try to condemn Saddam's use of CW.
Not only did the international press say that all indications were that Saddam was the culprit, but the soil samples tested by Portdon Down proved that Saddam was.
Beyond that, the declassified CIA & State Dept. reports state that Saddam was using gas against Kurds & Iranians on an almost 'daily basis'.
CapitalistHolocaust 2 years ago
Okay, there is Stephen Pelletiere (who worked for the CIA) who says that there is a DIA report that states that the Iranians may have used gas in the attack too, but, not only is that the only evidence that suggests this, he even admits that this report could have been 'cooked'. Go watch the video: "The Halabja Incident" where he admits that.
The U.S. of course, was pro-Saddam at the time & not only blocked the '88 UN resolution condemning him for CW use, but also blocked the resolution in '84.
CapitalistHolocaust 2 years ago
You do not want to see the truth. Today Iran is bombing Kurdish villages as it did previously. Iraq did not have mustard gas but iran had it . Search the Iran Gate scandal.
vivairaqi 2 years ago
As I said, the ONLY evidence that exists that suggests that Iran was involved in the gassing at Halabja is a U.S. DIA report which even Stephen Pelletiere (ex CIA) suggests may have been 'cooked' (listen to your OWN video).
We can't trust the DIA report, because the U.S. were not only pro-Saddam at the time, they'd even blocked 3 UN resolutions condemning Saddam's use of gas, one in '84, in '86 & again in '88 (Halabja attack).
We can't trust Pelletiere because he's CIA.
CapitalistHolocaust 2 years ago
Plus, Pelletiere was following the U.S. line which was totally against a Kurdish independent state in the region.
Go check out Pelletiere's bibliography. In 1984 he published a book called:
"The Kurds: An Unstable Element in the Gulf"
Pelletiere was as against the Kurds gaining an independent Kurdish State, because his bosses, the CIA/America were against the Kurds getting an independent state.
Hence, the U.S. helped Saddam gas them, in many ways.
CapitalistHolocaust 2 years ago
do u trust Rafsanjani <Rafsanjani, speaking in the program" Iran and the West" on the BBC. He said he had asked the United Nations to change its report on the war with Iraq, in exchange for the Americans in Lebanon{ Do you know what this means. and u want facts, today, Iran shelled Kurdish villages in northern Iraq
vivairaqi 2 years ago
The Iranians bombed villages they claim hold PJAK guerrillas (PKK splinter) N.Iraq & in Iran itself, probably in retaliation for the recent clashes.
A year or two ago, George Bush put the PKK onto the list of terrorist organizations to allow the Turkish to kill the PKK Kurds that were fighting with them on the borders & in N. Iraq.
America has a long history of helping people kill Kurds. They helped Saddam & in the 90's Clinton sent Turkey planes to help them slaughter Kurds.
CapitalistHolocaust 2 years ago
Turkey also became the greatest recipient of U.S. Military aid at this time & they flattened several Kurdish villages.
I'm not condoning Iran's actions here at all, but they are similar actions that America & Turkey have been taking against Kurds & the PKK since the 80's & 90's.
And they don't prove that Iran gassed the Kurds. The declassified CIA docs I have in the vid info prove that the CIA was aware that Saddam was gassing Kurds though & blocking UN resolutions condemning him for CW use.
CapitalistHolocaust 2 years ago
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pickle420000 2 years ago
Please be more specific.
What is you take issue with in the video?
Do you really find the fact that declassified U.S. State Dept. docs clearly show that America blocked a U.N. resolution condemning Saddam Hussein for use of Chemical Weapons in 1984?
The declassified State Dept. cable instructs the U.S. delegate to garner a motion of 'no decision' amongst Western diplomats.
Considering the U.S. used saddam's use of CW as a sub-pretext for the current invasion, don't you find that interesting?
CapitalistHolocaust 2 years ago
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pickle420000 2 years ago
What's wrong? Are you scared that if you put more than two letters together I'll be able to prove you wrong?
It's clear that you aren't able to refute that the U.S. blocked the UN draft resolution condemning Saddam's use of Chemical Weapons (since I have a link to the declassified document instructing their UN delegate to do so from the National Security Archive).
Most people, if they are being honest with themselves, would find this astonishing hypocrisy startling, let alone interesting.
CapitalistHolocaust 2 years ago
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pickle420000 2 years ago
Your spelling is certainly improving.
CapitalistHolocaust 2 years ago
That is hysterical and informative at the same time. The terrible shame is it's all true. We are all manipulated constantly and relentlessly by the propagandist press and 'events' designed to distract us from what's really going on. Sometimes I wonder if the guys at the top are just renegades or have any idea themselves what's really going on. If it's all completely just cowboy land out of control, yet they manage to control us so well.
electrasong 2 years ago
BFF
miasma02 2 years ago
LoL brilliant
raginraptor 2 years ago
I never knew Rummy was Irish
Nancysissypants 3 years ago
That's not an Irish accent, it's a NorthEast England accent.
CapitalistHolocaust 3 years ago
If you Google "Dutch businessman convicted Iraq WMD," the first link is a timesonline story from Dec 24, 2005 article that reads "A DUTCH businessman was found guilty of war crimes and sentenced to 15 years in prison yesterday for helping Saddam Hussein to acquire the chemical weapons that he used to kill thousands of Kurdish civilians in the Iran-Iraq war." A Dutch businessman sells Saddam chemicals, Russia sells him MiGs, France sells him Mirages, and Mr soccer riot rants about Hughes helos.
Duwijality 3 years ago
I hate to inform you that The Netherlands is a member of the hostile military alliance that is dominated by the U.S. called NATO. There is still, even to this day, a US military presence in the Netherlands.
It's well known that U.S. firms sent chemicals to Saddam via Europe for untraceability. Go check out the top 5 senders of chemical precursors to Iraq on Wikipedia, you will find that only ONE of the top 5 countries doesn't have a U.S. military base.
CapitalistHolocaust 3 years ago
It's well known that the French even flew on missions for Saddam during the Iran/Iraq war, just as it's known that the U.S. ran navy missions for Saddam...the Iranian airbus 655 was shot down on such a mission.
You obviously aren't denying that the US blocked the resolution condemning Saddam's use of Chemicals.
Because you can't, it's backed up by declassified records.
The main problem you have is pointing a finger at France is that they didn't later invade Iraq on the pretexts of WMD.
CapitalistHolocaust 3 years ago
I never "pointed a finger," I noted factually that France provided some of the jet fighters the BBC reported took part in the chemical attacks, and a Mirage F-1 or Mirage 2000 is infinitely more effective for carrying and deploying chemical bombs than a light 4 seat Hughes 300C. MiG-27, MiG-29, Su-25, Mi-24 Hind D and Mi-17s were also in Saddam's air force, but you're in a twist about a batch of 4 seat light observation helicopters because they were US. Enjoy your soccer riots and kidney pie.
Duwijality 3 years ago
The U.S. & the U.K. invaded Iraq on the pretexts of WMD, not France & Russia!
You are not denying that the U.S. & U.K. supported Saddam throughout his worst atrocities, because you can't, it's on the internal record.
You are not denying that the U.S. helped Saddam continue using Chemical Weapons by blocking a UN resolution against his use of CW, because you can't, it's on the internal record.
CapitalistHolocaust 3 years ago
I hate to inform you that a Dutch businessman was convicted for helping Saddam Hussein to acquire the chemical weapons that he used to kill thousands of Kurdish civilians in the Iran-Iraq war, not The Netherlands and not NATO, and any jagoff can post ANYTHING on Wiki. Let's see, you hate NATO, France & the US, and you pretend the USS Vincennes incident was a covert mission for Iraq and not a BLUNDER by the US Navy, who shot down an airliner when they thought they were under attack and weren't.
Duwijality 3 years ago
Military equipment & materials are often sent via companies. It provide perfect plausible denyability for Govts.
Search for the NYT article:
U.S. Companies Tied to Chemical Sales
It suggests that Van Anraat bought Chemicals from an American firm.
"The businessmen allegedly purchased the chemicals from Alcolac International, a Baltimore chemical manufacturer already linked to the illegal shipment of chemicals to Iran."
CapitalistHolocaust 3 years ago
The New York Times article goes on to say:
The Nu Kraft Mercantile Corporation of Brooklyn purchased four shipments of the chemical from Alcolac between November 1987 and March 1988.
"four shipments went to..[other places and]..the Netherlands.
three of the shipments were sent to Jordan
Jordan is a common transshipment point to Iraq
Italian authorities arrested Frans Van Anraat, a Dutch citizen who is identified in court papers here both a European representative and a customer of Nu Kraft"
CapitalistHolocaust 3 years ago
With regards to your comments about the Vincennes:
What was the Vincennes doing in Iranian territorial waters?
Why was the Commander & certain officers awarded medals?
Why were only families of non-Iranians on flight 655 compensated by the U.S. initially?
Check out the L.A. Times article: 'Fog of War' Was a Cop-out for Vincennes.
CapitalistHolocaust 3 years ago
Or better still, check out Navy Commander David R.Carlson eyewitness account from the Navy's official journal: "The Vincennes incident" Proceeding: U.S. Naval Institute.
Commander Carlson seems to completely contradict the official version:
"When the decision was made to shoot down the Airbus, the airliner was climbing, not diving; it was showing the proper identification friend or foe -- I.F.F. (Mode III); and it was in the correct flight corridor..."
CapitalistHolocaust 3 years ago
An eyewintess account differs from those of other eyewitnesses? It couldn't POSSIBLY be that one eyewitness remembers the incident differently than the rest of the eyewitnesses, could it? No, it has to that all the rest of the eyewitnesses are lying members of a conspiracy, right?
Duwijality 3 years ago
Are you really this brainwashed?
CapitalistHolocaust 3 years ago
What was the Vincennes doing in Iranian territorial waters? Keeping the Strait of Hormuz open for international trade. Saudia Arabia, Kuwait, Oman and the UAE still wanted to SELL oil on the world market. The mullahs & ayatollahs had every right to close it, right? I21 miles wide at the narrowest point and as such, hard NOT to be in Iranian waters. The medals were not given for shooting down an airliner, they were given for serving in a combat zone. "Initially"? How about "finally"?
Duwijality 3 years ago
I asked you what the Vincennes was doing in Iranian territorial waters, not International waters.
You are the most indoctrinated zealot I have come across on the whole internet.
CapitalistHolocaust 3 years ago
"You are the most indoctrinated zealot I have come across on the whole internet."
Anybody who lives in a country with a free press and disagrees with YOU is a "zealot,"eh? Glad to be a zealot, and you should be glad you're not criticizing Islamic zealots, who'd kill you for it rather than post stuff here. Ever traveled the Middle East? I have. I've lived there. You want "zealots," that's where to find them. I'm GLAD the US won WWII & Cold War and is winning the war on Islamic terror.
Duwijality 3 years ago
That 'free' press didn't bother to inform you that the U.S. slaughtered 1 million people in Indonesia & East Timor (via proxy Suharto), it didn't bother to inform you that the CIA & MI6 sent death lists, it didn't bother to inform you that the U.S. slaughtered 600,000 in Cambodia with a 9 year bombing campaign & funding Lon Nol's insurgency, or that the U.S. overthrew 18 Govt's in L.America.
The American 'free' press is the most effective propaganda system in the world.
CapitalistHolocaust 3 years ago
Just as privately run companies can more effectively provide services than state controlled sectors, so can the privately ran 'free' press more effectively institute propaganda.
You seem to forget that the rich elites own the Media & have vested interests in hiding U.S. imperialism.
Anyway, you made the mistake of thinking Commander Carlson was the only one shared his opinion, he wasn't.
You should read the journal.
I'll cite more of it tomorrow, I'm going to bed now, it's late.
CapitalistHolocaust 3 years ago
"rich elites own the Media & have vested interests in hiding U.S. imperialism" Tell me something I don't know--they just got a corrupt rookie fraud named Obama elected. Those "rich elites" are not able to censor what I (or you) read web/book. I've read all about "US imperialism" by many, many authors, but I didn't STOP there. I've seen life in the Islamic world with my own eyes and know people who left their homes in Cuba & Czechoslovakia (then) behind to come here, US imperialism or not.
Duwijality 3 years ago
Whilst I do agree that it's not possible to censor everything (because there is no need to when the majority of people get their info from the mainstream media), many, many publications are in fact withdrawn because publishers do not agree with the contents.
For example, Warner Communications dropped one of Chomsky's books because of the statement that the U.S. had been the biggest instigator of bloodbaths since WWII.
20,000 copies were pulped to stop it's release.
CapitalistHolocaust 3 years ago
The internet is a relatively new phenomenon, which they are only just attempting to regulate, which has been hard because of it's decentralized & truly democratized nature.
Still, google's search results are becoming more & more saturated with advertising (which could see pressure from companies on google for more regulation) & youtube (owned by google) has started algorythmically demoting videos for content to appease advertisers (supposedly non-political, but i've had videos demoted).
CapitalistHolocaust 3 years ago
With regards to people fleeing Cuba to the U.S., they are bound to. The U.S. embargo on Cuba has crushed it economically. Still, it's a lovely place. I have acquaintances who holiday there regularly & they love the place.
People were also bound to flee from Czechoslovakia & other Communist countries, to places like the U.S. & Britain because even the least repressive Communist societies were pretty miserable.
They are bound to come to economically brighter countries that are domestically free.
CapitalistHolocaust 3 years ago
But that doesn't excuse Imperialism, major support for terror & crushing of democracy abroad.
Plus, many people have also fled the Capitalist imposed dictatorships.
If I was in Guatemala (where the U.S. has been supporting major human rights abuses for decades) & wanted to escape torture, one of the safest places for me to flee would be America.
CapitalistHolocaust 3 years ago
remember yahoo discusion rooms? i learned so much in there b4 it was bought n taken off air by a certain rich elitist group who's interest is for us Notto know the truth am afaid you tube may be going that way in a sattled kind of way also heard today is a Ru tube from Russia n of the videos i wanted to show to some friends the savage attack on the Liberty is been banned from you tube now also heard that the new generation of PCs n they'll have u r name address b4 u r allowed to visit anyside
polygamous1 2 years ago
Hmm yeh, have you noticed anything funny with google recently?
I'm not getting very good search results anymore. I used to be able to find dissident stuff & what have you at the drop of the hat, but stuffs getting further & further back.
What ever happened to their 'do no evil' policy.
CapitalistHolocaust 2 years ago
If you Google "1988 Halabja gas attack," the second link is to a BBC story that reads as follows: "Thousands of people are reported to have been killed and many others injured in a poison gas attack on a Kurdish city in northern Iraq. Up to 20 aircraft, said to include Iraqi Migs and Mirages, were seen overhead at around 1100 local time in Halabja. " To the snarky, clueless brit who did the VO work, Russian MiGs and French Mirages are NOT "Hughes Helicopters." Was the BBC in it too?
Duwijality 3 years ago
Are you denying that Hughes helicopters were involved in the attack? Are you denying that Kurdish witnesses reported seeing U.S. made helicopters at the scene? This has been well reported & not just with my excellent source (democracy now).
Are you denying it because the BBC didn't mention it?
The BBC didn't mention that America & Britain killed 600,000 people in Indonesia via proxy Suharto. The CIA & MI6 sent death lists, this is acknowledged in declassified CIA docs (i've got links to them).
CapitalistHolocaust 3 years ago
...(if you want to see them).
The BBC doesn't mention our complicity in many atrocities. Doesn't mean they didn't happen.
The BBC is state ran TV & the UK is the 'junior partner' to the U.S. crimes.
France is part of the same hostile military alliance as the U.K., the U.S., The Netherlands...ie NATO.
Much of the Western 'free' press didn't mention the US/UK complicity in the slaughter of 600,000 in Indonesia either btw. but it's backed up by irrefutable evidence (ie the internal record).
CapitalistHolocaust 3 years ago
The BBC doesn't mention your complicity in many atrocities because the rantings of DN and on wiki are not factual, accurate, complete or newsworthy, and to whom is NATO a "hostile military alliance"? Oh, right--that "friendly" military alliance composed of AK-47 toting Communists that imprisoned or killed dissenters and had to build walls to keep people IN, at least until those worker's paradises collapsed of their own corruption. I'll take my chances in a free capitalist society every time.
Duwijality 3 years ago
The source for the CIA sending of death lists to Suharto in Indonesia is the CIA. It's acknowledged in a declassified CIA history report.
The fact that the Communist party in Indonesia was a peaceful party that was successfully advancing to take power democratically until, Suharto wiped them out is also noted in the CIA's 1968 report on Indonesia. I'll put a link to that up with my next video:
US/UK slaughter 600,000 in Indonesia.
BTW, Communism isn't the only alternative to Crony Capitalism.
CapitalistHolocaust 3 years ago
What did Democracy Now say about Iraqi MiGs, Mirages and Mi-24 Hind Ds gunships?The only US helos sold to Iraq were 4 seat Hughes 300C models used for flight training and 10-12 seat Bell 214 utility transports. US and Italian police agencies use them both for civilian law enforcement. They were "seen"? They're "seen" all the time. So what? You're not too upset about the Mi-24 Hind D gunships and heavy Mi-17s that could actually carry much larger useful loads of chemical weapons, are you?
Duwijality 3 years ago
Democracy Now said nothing about them. Why would they? It's irrelevant, because France & Russia didn't invade Iraq on the pretext of WMD, whereas the U.K. & the U.S. did.
CapitalistHolocaust 3 years ago
Dude, your cheesy video says explicitly that the US Hughes helicopters were sold to Iraq "to gas the Kurds with." Why are you and the leftards at DN so upset about 60 Hughes 300C 4 seat light observation helicopters and so totally apathetic about Iraq's ACTUAL arsenal of real WEAPONS? Oh, right--they're not US made. WMD was not the only reason Saddam's Iraq was invaded--Iraq hosted convetions of Islamic terror orgs, endorsed Islamic terror on 9/11/02 & called for more attacks in state media.
Duwijality 3 years ago
Firstly, that phrase was used partly as a joke to highlight that America seems to have done everything it could to slaughter Kurds throughout the region.
You will remember, & probably won't deny since it was aired on prime time TV, that George Bush incited the Kurdish populations to revolt alongside of the Shia rebellions at the end of the Gulf War & then totally failed to give them support.
Kurds were described as 'insurgents' in US docs to demonize them...
CapitalistHolocaust 3 years ago
...The US blocked 2 UN resolutions condemning Saddam's use of gas, the second of which was the Halabja attack which the U.S. tried to blame on Iran initially.
& of course, Clinton sent planes to Turkey in the early 90's to help them crush the Kurds in the Rebellions there (at this time Turkey was the greatest recipient of U.S. military aid which was being used to heavily suppress the Kurds).
Secondly, so what if Saddam supported terror, the US is the greatest supporter of terror in the World.
CapitalistHolocaust 3 years ago
In fact, America is the only country to be charged with International Terrorism by the World Courts.
I have links to the courts verdicts on my video:
America charged with International Terrorism.
CapitalistHolocaust 3 years ago
Clinton sent planes to Turkey to enforce the no-fly zone Saddam agreed to per the terms of the cease-fire that ended the 1991 Gulf War--you know, the one that he LOST after he invaded Kuwait? Using your "logic," so what if Saddam supported terror, the US is the greatest supporter of terror, " you're defending Saddam's right to support terror and whining about the US being better at it? Wouldn't it be a beautiful world if the US had stayed neutral in WWII and left Europe to Hitler & Stalin?
Duwijality 3 years ago
"In the 1990s, it was the Kurdish population of Turkey that suffered the most brutal repression. Tens of thousands were killed, thousands of towns and villages were destroyed, millions driven from the lands and homes, with hideous barbarity and torture. The Clinton administration gave crucial support throughout, providing Turkey lavishly with means of destruction. In the single year 1997, Clinton sent more arms to Turkey..."
CapitalistHolocaust 3 years ago
"...than the US sent to this major ally during the entire Cold War period combined up to the onset of the counterinsurgency operations. Turkey became the leading recipient of US arms, apart from Israel-Egypt, a separate category. Clinton provided 80% of Turkish arms, doing his utmost to ensure that Turkish violence would succeed. Virtual media silence made a significant contribution to these efforts."
- Status of Forces Agreement, Noam Chomsky
Kurdistani Nwe newspaper, August 9, 2008
CapitalistHolocaust 3 years ago
Noam CHOMSKY???? Why not quote Michael Moore or Che himself? That FRAUD has gotten filthy rich SELLING socialism to doddering academics and fist pumping young dupes wearing Che t-shirts to their freshman Poli Sci classes. I always could count on Chomsky for a quote to throw at some of my leftard ex-hippie professors in college. A slam on US foreign policy from Norm was always a guarenteed A in their classes, where actual curriculum always took a backseat to their didactic pronouncements.
Duwijality 3 years ago
Noam Chomsky's work is impeccable. His approach to research is almost scientific.
He is one of the most well respected intellectuals in the World. Prospect magazine readers voted him the most important intellectual alive & he was the most cited living scholar throughout most of the 90's & even well into the 2000's.
Besides being a complete genius who totally revolutionized linguistics, he is probably the foremost political commentator on U.S. foreign policy.
You just don't like the truth.
CapitalistHolocaust 3 years ago
I'm sure glad I never voted for Clinton. Tell me, what did the rest of the world do to help the plight of the Kurds? I mean besides wringing hands and crying about it?
Duwijality 3 years ago
You are unbelievable.
The U.S. supported Saddam through his worst atrocities, killed far more people in the World than anybody else (since WWII), acted to crush democracy abroad more than anyone (overthrowing many democracies such as Iran, Guatemala, Brazil, Indonesia, Chile, etc), installed & supported countless dictators (app. 50 in L.America alone) & you think you can distract me by pointing out Saddam's crimes & then denounce me as a supporting Saddam for pointing out your hypocrisy.
CapitalistHolocaust 3 years ago
Believe it. You could do a lot worse than have the US to complain about. If the US is the worst thing you've ever seen, it's evidence you haven't seen very much. We have no duty to sit idly by and watch Communists or Islamic militants turn any nation into bases for them to launch futher attacks and/or subvert more nations. You have to pretend leftists are just, fair and have the best interests of all the people in mind and they DON'T. Leftists are all about POLITICAL POWER for THEMSELVES.
Duwijality 3 years ago
the US loves dictators they work for them, they make their dirty job.
dieforwhatubelive 3 years ago
excellent shows how deeply cynical US imperialism is. Google in George Keenan , 1948 to see the doctorine clearly stated
nassermashadi 3 years ago
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RattlerBK 3 years ago
Are you saying that the Palestinian problem didn't exist before Hamas? You are kidding, right?
Hamas is an extremist response to the fact that America & Israel have been blocking a diplomatic solution in the middle east for 30-40 years now.
On Dec. 16th 1985, 137 member-states endorsed UNGA Resolution 40/168, identifying Israeli policy as a major barrier to peace in the Middle East.
Only 2 Countries voted against!
The United States & Israel.
That was 2 years before Hamas was founded.
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RattlerBK 3 years ago
Check these, youtube,
- Israel Lobby
- Occupation 101
With regards
ryolight 3 years ago
Its time both Americans and the world Kindly remind ignorant people like Skye820 that
"America Reaps what is sows."
dntmsswthme66 3 years ago
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RattlerBK 3 years ago
It is amazing that despite these videos, there are people out there that refuse to believe that Reagan and Saddam were allies in the 1980s. Case in point: Skye820. This "woman" on youtube actually thinks that Reagan and Saddam had nothing to do with each other and were actually enemies. Do a search on youtube and find her name and see of her foolish rantings. Better yet, search this youtube cliip and post your comments: "West Chester Victory Rally Silent Night" Remind Skye of Reagan's friends!
dntmsswthme66 3 years ago
im curous to what the real conversation was.
im with you guys one hundred percent.
no more diplomacy in the midle east.
buy they way
why dont you try sealing a war to a nation of liberal dushbags.thats got a democratitc party to pander and lie to em and playcat them and make them feal like there doing someting for their country buy posing as activist.yeh. i do like carter for tring to get the hostages . i think he gets a bad rap.
but the rest of dems are dushbags.
sadam made his own gas!
thewackadewreport 3 years ago
so you're against liberal douchebags, but FOR these guys in power right now? what a gem you must be.
rusH1023 3 years ago
dude you have your head so far up your ass that you dont even smell your shit anymore
jeffman3003 3 years ago
The minutes of the meeting are linked in the video info section. It's a declassified State Dept. document from the National Archive.
CapitalistHolocaust 3 years ago
learn to speak english
phdecora 3 years ago
How ironic, an American telling an English person to learn to speak English.
Did you check out the links to the declassified documents in the video info section?
CapitalistHolocaust 3 years ago
good point muahaha iam german and i am suprised everytime how americans are controlled by private tv stations ova there... look at FOX news muahaha thats nothing that is worth to be called news they cut a newsbroadcast to show some robbery or police chase... its hilarious but way to sad that so many ppl think that shit showed on there... And u americans supported saddam and osama with weapons and money muahaha think straight... and real plz inform yaself not on fox not on youtube... damn so sad
nightvision01 3 years ago
Americans changed the whole english language anyway.
Rafdaganga 3 years ago
I think 'mutilated' would be a better term.
fenderkid6 3 years ago
LOL agreed!
Rafdaganga 3 years ago
sounds like....david firth???same accent though
Morgenster 3 years ago
Watch the documentary "why we fight" so interesting...
naturerockgirl25 3 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
"America has no allies or enemies. Only interests."
-Henry Kissinger
Scotty7617 3 years ago 3
and Saddam droped all those chemics and bombs on Iranians and his own people proudly ,and Romsfield shaked hand with him nicely ,and even UN didn't do anything frankly , and yet rudely west claims "Iran as a threat to world"?!
zets13 3 years ago 3
Yes, the hypocrisy is astounding.
America overthrew the democratically elected Mossedegh in Iran in '53 in 'Operation ajax'.
America supported Saddam's War against Iran, even blocking Iran's draft UN resolution condemning Saddam's use of CW in '84 giving him the green light to gas Kurds & Iranians.
America shoots down Iranian airbus 655 killing 290 Iranian civilians.
America supports the brutal Israeli occupation.
America invades Iraq & yet Iran, NOT America is supposedly the threat!
CapitalistHolocaust 3 years ago
fuk u rumsfeld
HotDogChiliePepper 3 years ago 4
On March 16 1988 using US supplied Bell helicopters, Iraqi forces launched a poison gas attack on the Iraqi Kurdish village of Halabja, killing 5000 people.
Just four months later, Washington stood by as the US giant Bechtel corporation won the contract to build a huge petrochemical plant that would give the Hussein regime the capacity to generate chemical weapons.
On September 8 1988 Congress passed the Prevention of Genocide Act, which would have imposed sanctions on the Hussein regime.
getplaning 3 years ago
The White House used its influence to stall the bill for as long as possible. When Congress did eventually pass the bill, the White House refused to implement it.
Even the public outrage generated by the Halabja massacre did not cool the right's love for Saddam Hussein. So much for the moral high ground.
getplaning 3 years ago
Nice hand shake Rumsfeld
septube26 3 years ago
should start a book "name the date Bush will pardon Rumsfeld"
znotty 3 years ago 3
ok,I can open it now,didnt know why I codnt open it cuple mins ago,it never happened to me bifore.
aleksRTS 3 years ago
wtF?! THIS VIDEO IN NO LONGER AVALABLE??
aleksRTS 3 years ago
They got Iran to fight Iran then destroyed Iraq with a decade of sanctions then when it was on its knees and no threat they went in and finished the job....
Destroying Iraq has always been the Aim from day 1
Iran is not Arab and they gave the US greenlight to go into Iraq. The crap about invading Iran is psyops to accept the continued occupation of Iraq as the lessor of 2 evils.
jamesbt20 3 years ago
Ge0rgeWBush: The Kurds where told to attack Sadam by George Bush Senior.
WashMitt 3 years ago
Yes, then refused them any form of military support & effectively sent them to their graves.
Clinton sent military aid to the Turkish to bomb the Kurds in the North after the war too & more recently Bush jnr has branded the PKK in the North Terrorists to assist Turkish slaughter of Kurds further there.
As I think I said in an earlier comment, the only reason America is allowing the Kurdish State in the North is that it is aligned AND the US is desperate. It doesn't control much of Iraq.
CapitalistHolocaust 3 years ago
You say: "The U.S gassed the Kurds with the help of the U.S."
Are you one of those people who blame gun shops for selling guns to serial killers?
Are you one of those people who blame Ford or GM when someone commits a hit and run?
btw, it wasn't just the U.S. who sold weapons to Iraq...France and Russia, I'm looking at you.
The SCUD missile is Soviet made...not U.S. made.
Ge0rgeWBush 3 years ago
Are you denying that it is on the declassified internal record that the U.S. instructed their UN delegate to garner support for a motion of 'no decision' for the draft UN resolution condemning Saddam's use of Chemical Weapons, failing that he should abstain & effectively veto it?
Are you really willing to destroy your credibility that much, when I have links to the actual document in the Video info section?
CapitalistHolocaust 3 years ago
"The SCUD missile is Soviet made...not U.S. made."
Scud are derived from the German V-2. The term "Scud" was coined by Western intelligence agencies. It is not an acronym.
"Scud" is now a generic product name like "Kleenex" and "Xerox".
The Russian's haven't manufactured a Scud since 1980 but even prior "Scud" missiles were mostly produced elsewhere.
The first use of Scud missiles was during the Yom Kippur War in 1973, a quarter-century after the Soviet Scud was developed.
eversincealways 3 years ago
At which point between the 1980's when Iraq was KNOWN to have WMD's, did Saddam give them up...and more importantly, when did we know about it?
- Before or after Bill Clinton attacked Iraq based on WMD evidence in 1998?
- Before or after the Congress authorized the use of military force in Iraq in Oct. 2002?
- Before or after the UN passed RES 1441 in Nov. 2002 stating that Iraq was not in compliance?
Ge0rgeWBush 3 years ago
UN Weapons inspector Scott Ritter pointed out - when 1441 came up - that there was no evidence that Saddam had even acquired the technology necessary to resume his Nuclear Program & that any of the WMD Saddam may have managed to hide when inspectors pulled out in '98 would have become inert.
So who knows, he may have got rid of most of them in '98. It's irrelevant. If the U.S. hadn't blocked the '84 draft resolution on Saddam's use of CW they could have stopped the gassings in '88.
CapitalistHolocaust 3 years ago
CapitalHolocaust,
Regarding Iraq's WMDs...you said, "So who knows..."
Exactly!
At the time we knew he had them at one point and had not yet accounted for them since.
So now, after the invasion, we now know!
And Saddam is dead!
We win!
Ge0rgeWBush 3 years ago
That's the most childish analysis of the situation I've ever heard.
Who knows? America didn't know, but presented evidence as if they did, in an attempt to justify an illegal invasion. An invasion Kofi annan stated was not given UN approval.
Why didn't they attack Suharto when he was slaughtering 100s of thousands of Indonesians? Why was the Rwanda genocide not considered a matter for intervention?
America has selective amnesia when it comes to atrocities of client Vs non-aligned states.
CapitalistHolocaust 3 years ago
Yes, America wins & gets it's puppet regime to control the oil in Iraq, but a million people die in the process, a million people die due to sanctions leading up to it, a million people die in Indonesia (because a client's population does not make a worthy victim), a million die in Rwanda (because of no strategic interests).
Why are you so proud that your country allows it's client states (who do far worse than Saddam) get away with it? Why are u so proud that your government are Nazis?
CapitalistHolocaust 3 years ago
Yes, Saddam had refused access to Weapons inspectors into his presidential palaces.
UNSCOM & the US decide that these qualify as "sensitive" installations & bomb for Iraqi non-compliance of Weapons inspections.
Ironically, Iraq's stand on 'non-compliance' to weapons & nuclear inspections in general is vaguely reminiscent of America's own stand on the issue.
Nobody will bomb Israel for not allowing in Nuke inspector's either.
CapitalistHolocaust 3 years ago
Israel did not invade Kuwait and then have to be forcibly expelled. You cannot compare Iraq to Israel.
4951WEDDEL 3 years ago
Are you suggesting that Israel didn't invade Egypt, Syria & the Lebanon & killed 10's of thousands of people in the process?
Are you seriously that uninformed?
CapitalistHolocaust 3 years ago
The Liberal says, "Iraq NEVER had WMD's!"
Then the Liberal says, "The U.S. sold WMD's to Iraq!"
Liberalism, it's FANTASTIC!
Ge0rgeWBush 3 years ago
I think you are quoting two different people there & thus creating a contradiction that doesn't really exist.
You will need to come up with better arguments against adults.
CapitalistHolocaust 3 years ago
No, I'm merely quoting EVERY Liberal who bashes U.S. policy against Iraq.
They claim we went to War with Iraq even though they NEVER had WMD's...and then in the same breath, they say we sold WMD's to Iraq.
Sorry, I understand it's illogical...but it's Wacky Liberalism
Ge0rgeWBush 3 years ago
To say you are quoting 'every' liberal who bashes US policy, is blatantly sweeping.
Let's imagine somebody did say this, it was probably in the context of a timescale. They probably recognize Saddam gassed the Kurds (with US help) & then later, after the gulf war, scaled down his wmd programs.
Once Saddam realised that his compliance was under pain of death (threat of war), he probably halted it completely & got rid of it all. So in effect had none.
Where is the contradiction there?
CapitalistHolocaust 3 years ago
**** POP QUIZ: Who said this? ****
"Earlier today, I ordered America's armed forces to strike military and security targets in Iraq. They are joined by British forces. Their mission is to attack Iraq's nuclear, chemical and biological weapons programs and its military capacity to threaten its neighbors.
Saddam Hussein must not be allowed to threaten his neighbors or the world with nuclear arms, poison gas or biological weapons."
(answer: Bill Clinton - 1998)
Ge0rgeWBush 3 years ago
Thanks for posting this. It's important to remind people of this shit every once in awhile.
Chiffon56 3 years ago
Yep, all true... This happened a year before I joined the US Navy
And this meeting happened just a few weeks AFTER the chemical attacks, Rummy was there to congratulate Saddam on a job well done.
Pleblian 3 years ago
Please go read the Declassified Docs in the Video info section, that quite clearly prove that the US instructed their UN delegate to block the Resolution condemning Iraqi use of chemicals in 84!
This is FACT! It's on the US internal, once Top Secret, now disclosed Record!
It gave Saddam the greenlight to gas the Kurds in '88.
The US then helped cover up the gassings in Halabja. Go check out the links vid:
9/11 - Why Do they Hate US? - Terrorism Exposed
for sources on the '88 cover up.
CapitalistHolocaust 3 years ago
Yeah, we attacked the country based on lies.
J1Goro 3 years ago
BFD, this video doesn't prove anything. I can show you photos on google of Jaques Chirac(president of France) shaking Saddam Hussains on a deal for France to build him a fking Nuclear Reactor if you want. Lots of people did plenty of buisness with Saddam, untill the UN put international sanctions on Iraq.
SwissCross 3 years ago
SwissCross
You're either missing the point, or INTENTIONALLY obfuscating.
1. France never bombed Iraq
2. The US sold weapons to Hussein then later murdered over one million civilians claiming he had WMDS.
The US Govt KNEW he didn't have any as it had seen them destroyed after Gulf War I, but used it as an excuse to establish permanent bases and have ALL Oil leases go to US companies- which it has done. THAT was the "Mission Accomplished", not the LIE about bringing "Peace & Democracy"
spookytom 3 years ago
SwissCross
Why don't you go & read the Declassified Documents in the Video info section, that quite clearly prove that America instructed their UN delegate to block the Resolution condemning Iraqi use of chemicals in 1984?
This is FACT! It's on the U.S. internal once Top Secret - Now disclosed Record!
It gave Saddam the greenlight to gas the Kurds in '88.
The US then helped cover up the gassings in Halabja in '88. Go check out the links vid:
9/11 - Why Do they Hate US? - Terrorism Exposed
CapitalistHolocaust 3 years ago
Also; the Nato countries are all part of the Hostile military alliance that keeps Imperialism going for the Western nations. We all take turn to gangrape the third world nations, with military & diplomatic support.
Sometimes NATO countries offer help, sometimes not...e.g the UK (although a junior partner of the US) decided not to provide troops in Vietnam, whereas it has in Iraq, whereas France has decided not to.
CapitalistHolocaust 3 years ago
War criminal meets War criminal.
blair227 3 years ago
funny and sad, lol. poor iraq.
photofu 3 years ago
yep, seen this...when i was a young child, on TV, before the war started
luv4knowledge 3 years ago
Hope you mean the current Iraq War & not the Iran/Iraq War...as this was filmed in '83 AFTER the start of the Iran/Iraq war & AFTER the US administration became aware of Saddam's use of gas on an "almost daily basis", to quote the declassified documents.
CapitalistHolocaust 3 years ago
Ben Laden is Rumsfeld
baeckler 3 years ago
Is it too much to ask that Bush and his criminal cabal be jailed, for life, for war crimes.
Additionally, I'd like to see those assholes be subjected to the type of shit they've allowed at Guantanamo.
TheFitConnection 3 years ago
This really needs to be spread around as much as possible. Keep doing whatever you can to get info out on the real global terrorists.
stracinsrt4 3 years ago
I love it. Remember when Osama Bin Laden was working for the USA! I will be happy when the American empire collapses. Watch their stock market crash and laugh with me.
copcorona 3 years ago
Don't hold your breath.
4951WEDDEL 3 years ago
remember the romans? the bush administration is emulating their ways...not gonna end good for us here...gonna see some massive bloodshed in 100 years time, thank god i'll be dead...
luv4knowledge 3 years ago