My thoughts and "grades" of each person in this part:
#91: A darn good director, but not among the greatest people of all time. F
#90: Found a way to capture moments in time without using a pencil or brush. Great choice. A-
#89: A pioneer in women's rights, and I applaud having her on the list, despite what others might say. A-
#88: Started the atomic age, and you can't help but feel sorry for the guy for how he felt about it. And I agree with xtntx that he should've won the Nobel Prize. A
I like the fact there is a good debate and no name calling yet - good for everyone. I think they are going for icons in different fields of expertise. A few people have questioned Armstong and Spielberg but I would say Armstrong was the most famous face of Jazz and was internationally famous. My mum and dad went to see him in the UK in the 50's and at that time they had never even seen a black man in the flesh. Spielberg has dominated cinema for my entire life in every country on the planet.
i the top 10 part of the list was well done...but below that is really questionable...there is no way steven spielberg, louis armstrong should be on this list.....i think the fact the twentieth century is so well represented is just, based on the fact that we have progressed, discovered, cured, invented, more things in this century than in any other...but there are many more more revelant people that deserve to be on here way ahead of spielberg, armstrong, regan
Thanks civwarfan, you did a great job in posting this, its fascinating viewing.
However, I do agree with some of the comments that this seems American centered; for example why is Susan Anthony on the list, even though the US was not the first country to grant women the vote?
Women in other countries struggled just as hard (often harder) before she did to get equality in their countries, so why is she recognized rather than all the women who fought so gallantly for women's suffrage?
@robnaro - Sorry for replying to a 2 year old post...but how is it Pop Icons if the top 3-4 for the most part are not "pop" at all. Gutenburg and Luther are nowhere near that.
honestly... neither should be on this list... the initial maker of silent film and then maybe hitchcock or kubrick... but if we sat down i'm thinking we could come up with two people more important than Eleanor R. and Spielberg... especially when taking the whole world into account...
putting the word period after a statement doesn't make it any more true. you haven't offered any reason, you just stated an opinion and then the word period.
why does she deserve to be there as one of the 100 most influential people of the millenium? I didn't say she wasn't relatively important, but I think you're delusional if you think her achievements are as relevant as many others on this list.
you're right. putting a period at the end doesn't make it any more true. it's true enough. she was the most productive first lady America ever had. She had a bee-line for civil rights before it was popular and championed workers during the Depression.
so being a productive first lady as opposed to non-productive means that she is one of the 100 most important, relevant, influential people of the millenium? civil rights wasn't her idea, shouldn't we honor the one who had the thought? what does "championed workers" even mean? we're talking about inventors, theorists who changed the world, innovators, etc... and you think a first lady who didn't have a problem with civil rights belongs on that list? you are entitled to that opinion i guess.
hey, I agree with you. none of those events are worthy of this list. when I think of the 100 most influential/relevant/important people of the MILLENIUM, I think of none of those people. to me, advances in medicine, food, electronics, education, astrology, diplomacy, war, architecture, communication, etc... are FAR more important than what a first lady semi-accomplished or what a musician did to women's hips. in fact, give me the beatles over elvis if you go that route.
I do believe that the one who painted the Mona Lisa, aka, Leonardo da Vinci, definately should be on the list, not because if his artistry, but because of his extreme knowledge of science. He was so ahead of his time. However, I seriously do question Elvis, The Beatles, Louis Armstrong, Ronald Reagan, Princess Diana, and maybe Eleanor Roosevelt being on the list....
here's what my teacher said about why he's on the list. His use of music in the film Jaws to take the place of a shark(dun dun...dun dun..), which wasn't even seen until much later has influenced film making. The music was as much a character in the film as anything else.
that might make him one of the top 10 filmmakers of all time, but we're all fucked if using music in movies to add to the suspense (which Hitchcock did LONG before Spielberg) ranks as a top 100 important event of the millenium. the guy who created the pencil sharpener is more relevant.
Also I do question Steven Spielberg being on the list....this list does NOT symbolize the most influential people....it basically states the most known people in the world today and in the past. How disgraceful. And where the hell is Mark Twain? WTF....
Not most important event, he made an impact, he deserves tobe on the list, not very high (which by the way he wasn't very high) but he still made an impact.
by the way, your right, pencil sharpeners are SO great the an inventor of said invention is good. So now we waste even more paper than usual. Great job whoever made that!
So? Your implying that we should not appreciate Reagan doing good things because John Kennedy could have done better if he were still alive. Because if so, one could say that you were accusing Reagan of planning to kill JFK. Not that you are directly, or indirectly, but I could say that.
I was not implying that at all. I'm saying if JFK was to continue with his second term, the political shift wouldn't have happened, and the country wouldn't be as conservative now and therefore Reagan wouldn't have gotten elected in 1980. Also you don't see how the missile crisis was relevant? It could have been WWIII!
I never said you were implying that. But no matters what, JFK got shot, and thanks to that, we had terrible times. However, Reagan helped us through those times. Reagan was a good person, he did good as a president, and he COULD have gotten elected after all of JFK's terms were fully served.
This is dumb. I guess the last thousand years consist of the twentieth century and the U.S. for the most part. Louis Armstrong? Steven Spielberg? What a joke. Where is Zheng He? Tokugawa?
@sydlife123 O alright then. Try in smaller parts if that works. Thanks for watching.
civwarfan 10 months ago
My thoughts and "grades", continued:
#87: Her words put into motion the first "going green" movement. A-
#86: One of the most confusing writers of all time, and that's what makes him so awesome. B
#85: Mr. Star Wars Project? Really? I don't think so. D-
TheBanditKing2011 1 year ago
My thoughts and "grades" of each person in this part:
#91: A darn good director, but not among the greatest people of all time. F
#90: Found a way to capture moments in time without using a pencil or brush. Great choice. A-
#89: A pioneer in women's rights, and I applaud having her on the list, despite what others might say. A-
#88: Started the atomic age, and you can't help but feel sorry for the guy for how he felt about it. And I agree with xtntx that he should've won the Nobel Prize. A
TheBanditKing2011 1 year ago
WHY THE FUCK WASNT I IN THIS ! THIS IS BULLSHIT !
1973mazdarx4coupe 1 year ago
@1973mazdarx4coupe LOL
civwarfan 10 months ago
I like the fact there is a good debate and no name calling yet - good for everyone. I think they are going for icons in different fields of expertise. A few people have questioned Armstong and Spielberg but I would say Armstrong was the most famous face of Jazz and was internationally famous. My mum and dad went to see him in the UK in the 50's and at that time they had never even seen a black man in the flesh. Spielberg has dominated cinema for my entire life in every country on the planet.
WillShakespeare2007 1 year ago
I love how so many people watch crap like this on Biography, AandE and the History Channel, and think themselves historians.
michaelandcarina 1 year ago
i the top 10 part of the list was well done...but below that is really questionable...there is no way steven spielberg, louis armstrong should be on this list.....i think the fact the twentieth century is so well represented is just, based on the fact that we have progressed, discovered, cured, invented, more things in this century than in any other...but there are many more more revelant people that deserve to be on here way ahead of spielberg, armstrong, regan
MJLOPEZ88 1 year ago
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@MJLOPEZ88 who are more relevant?
LastlyMore 1 year ago
thank you so much . i love this. i remember when i first watch this in 1999.
da1976stone 1 year ago
A&E American Biography of the Millennium
ljevaispleurer 2 years ago 3
More like of the century, particularly the American Century.
lettersfromaboy 2 years ago 2
Reagan + Reaganomics = shouldn't be on list
ExodusPessoa 3 years ago 3
JFK had more impact by his death than Reagan did being alive.
xitongzou 2 years ago
So your saying John F. Kennedy deserves to be as low as 85? That's stupid JFK should be near the top, not as low as you are suggestiong.
Darkfusion280 2 years ago
I agree xitongzou.
ExodusPessoa 2 years ago
All those women (some who gave their lives) should be remembered and recognized.
kramnesnay 3 years ago 2
Thanks civwarfan, you did a great job in posting this, its fascinating viewing.
However, I do agree with some of the comments that this seems American centered; for example why is Susan Anthony on the list, even though the US was not the first country to grant women the vote?
Women in other countries struggled just as hard (often harder) before she did to get equality in their countries, so why is she recognized rather than all the women who fought so gallantly for women's suffrage?
kramnesnay 3 years ago 5
Spielberg is nothing like Dickens. This thing is totally ridiculous. It should 1000 years of pop icons.
robnaro 3 years ago 5
@robnaro - Sorry for replying to a 2 year old post...but how is it Pop Icons if the top 3-4 for the most part are not "pop" at all. Gutenburg and Luther are nowhere near that.
kirant 1 year ago
@kirant because so much of the rest of the list is dedicated to pop icons who, while famous, contributed very little to human progress
robnaro 1 year ago
@robnaro - Some of them yeah. However, I really think some of it actually is legitimate (probably in the order of 65-70%).
kirant 1 year ago
Oppenheimer! this is the father of many aspects of physics and science other than A bomb. It's too bad he didnt win the nobel.
xtntx 3 years ago
susan b anthony should be futher ahead!
pearpies 3 years ago
spielberg? ahead of elanor,
usamaj 3 years ago
honestly... neither should be on this list... the initial maker of silent film and then maybe hitchcock or kubrick... but if we sat down i'm thinking we could come up with two people more important than Eleanor R. and Spielberg... especially when taking the whole world into account...
sbnewman 3 years ago 2
eleanor deserves to be there. period.
roscoegino 3 years ago
putting the word period after a statement doesn't make it any more true. you haven't offered any reason, you just stated an opinion and then the word period.
why does she deserve to be there as one of the 100 most influential people of the millenium? I didn't say she wasn't relatively important, but I think you're delusional if you think her achievements are as relevant as many others on this list.
sbnewman 3 years ago
you're right. putting a period at the end doesn't make it any more true. it's true enough. she was the most productive first lady America ever had. She had a bee-line for civil rights before it was popular and championed workers during the Depression.
roscoegino 3 years ago
so being a productive first lady as opposed to non-productive means that she is one of the 100 most important, relevant, influential people of the millenium? civil rights wasn't her idea, shouldn't we honor the one who had the thought? what does "championed workers" even mean? we're talking about inventors, theorists who changed the world, innovators, etc... and you think a first lady who didn't have a problem with civil rights belongs on that list? you are entitled to that opinion i guess.
sbnewman 3 years ago
i'm sorry. she didn't paint the mona lisa or discover jazz. or shake her hips like elvis did. i'm sorry.
roscoegino 3 years ago
hey, I agree with you. none of those events are worthy of this list. when I think of the 100 most influential/relevant/important people of the MILLENIUM, I think of none of those people. to me, advances in medicine, food, electronics, education, astrology, diplomacy, war, architecture, communication, etc... are FAR more important than what a first lady semi-accomplished or what a musician did to women's hips. in fact, give me the beatles over elvis if you go that route.
sbnewman 3 years ago
To sbnewman AND roscoegino:
I do believe that the one who painted the Mona Lisa, aka, Leonardo da Vinci, definately should be on the list, not because if his artistry, but because of his extreme knowledge of science. He was so ahead of his time. However, I seriously do question Elvis, The Beatles, Louis Armstrong, Ronald Reagan, Princess Diana, and maybe Eleanor Roosevelt being on the list....
carla9785 2 years ago
here's what my teacher said about why he's on the list. His use of music in the film Jaws to take the place of a shark(dun dun...dun dun..), which wasn't even seen until much later has influenced film making. The music was as much a character in the film as anything else.
blossom114 3 years ago
that might make him one of the top 10 filmmakers of all time, but we're all fucked if using music in movies to add to the suspense (which Hitchcock did LONG before Spielberg) ranks as a top 100 important event of the millenium. the guy who created the pencil sharpener is more relevant.
sbnewman 3 years ago
Also I do question Steven Spielberg being on the list....this list does NOT symbolize the most influential people....it basically states the most known people in the world today and in the past. How disgraceful. And where the hell is Mark Twain? WTF....
carla9785 2 years ago
Not most important event, he made an impact, he deserves tobe on the list, not very high (which by the way he wasn't very high) but he still made an impact.
by the way, your right, pencil sharpeners are SO great the an inventor of said invention is good. So now we waste even more paper than usual. Great job whoever made that!
Darkfusion280 2 years ago
One could say that Reagan wouldn't have even been elected if JFK wasn't shot.
xitongzou 2 years ago
So? Your implying that we should not appreciate Reagan doing good things because John Kennedy could have done better if he were still alive. Because if so, one could say that you were accusing Reagan of planning to kill JFK. Not that you are directly, or indirectly, but I could say that.
Darkfusion280 2 years ago
I was not implying that at all. I'm saying if JFK was to continue with his second term, the political shift wouldn't have happened, and the country wouldn't be as conservative now and therefore Reagan wouldn't have gotten elected in 1980. Also you don't see how the missile crisis was relevant? It could have been WWIII!
xitongzou 2 years ago
I never said you were implying that. But no matters what, JFK got shot, and thanks to that, we had terrible times. However, Reagan helped us through those times. Reagan was a good person, he did good as a president, and he COULD have gotten elected after all of JFK's terms were fully served.
Darkfusion280 2 years ago
Also don't forget the CUBAN MISSILE CRISIS
xitongzou 2 years ago
I don't really see how that is relevant.
Darkfusion280 2 years ago
Never forget that
lettersfromaboy 2 years ago
Thank you civwarfan for posting this. It is
very informative and interesting.
spokeshole 3 years ago 2
This is dumb. I guess the last thousand years consist of the twentieth century and the U.S. for the most part. Louis Armstrong? Steven Spielberg? What a joke. Where is Zheng He? Tokugawa?
nicogum 4 years ago
so you complain that the list is selectively for the US for the most part, yet you want to include Tokugawa, who applies only to Japanese culture?
sbnewman 3 years ago 2
Please watch all 25 parts. 3 hours total. Thank you.
civwarfan 4 years ago