See the history of israel... Everytime it was the arab countries that attacked israel, but even when israel had no support from usa or britians they always won the wars that arabs started... As you can almoust all the agressors in the world are the muslims, in every war there a muslim side, people when you protect Islam you digging your own grave, when there were no israel what arabs did in this region? They had wars nonstop, when there will be no israel they fight everyone and will get to you!!
Israel ALWAYS had the support of the west, I actually wonder how long they would last without it.
you are talking about the Muslims like they were the ONLY ones who ever fought a war.
you forgot about the crusaders, or the bible stories about the Jews invading and killing of the inhabitants of the land of Canaan, there is lot more cruelty in the Bible and the Torah if you want to look it up.
Palestinian unity...sure, why not. Arabs are known for their "unity". Come to think of it... The only thing all Arabs have ever "unified" over is "Death to Israel".
They couldn't even get That done. When in history have the Arabs in Palestine ever governed themselves?
a national unity is nice but abbas is just an Israel puppet, he don't care about the Palestinians ! he just want to please the Israel terrorists and take money in return !
how can a leader of a poor country always wear very nice cloths and have many Mercedes cars ?
It's hard to watch how part of holy land turn into the swamp. Hard to watch how dwellers of the swamp enjoy life there. And its hard to know that swamp inhabitants want to turn all holy land into the swamp.
It sounds like the people of youtube themselves want to see fighting no side is right or wrong I admit as a Jew that Both side are responsible for the deaths of civilians in Gaza but Israel has a right to a state and Muslims have a problem with that so when the Muslims want peace they will leave Israel alone.
Everyone wants peace in Gaza! The United States, Israel, Britain, everyone wants peace there. The Palestinians will need to realize that there are better methods than terrorism.
You mean to tell me you think Israel wants peace? Have you watched any news the past 60 years? Please define terrorism. I thought it meant attacking civilians. You seem to define it as attacking military. Israel attacks civilians and uses terrorism on its own citizens for political reasons.
So then a man(actually usually boys or girls) walking onto a bus, or into a mall, or coffee shop wearing a vest packed with explosives, nails, nuts, bolts and marbles as shrapnel detonating it killing dozens of men, women, children, old, young...whatever...that's not terrorism, right? Those Itishaadi get streets named after them, but only if they kill Israeli citizens though... right?
Didn't I say that commiting suicide is wrong already? I thought I've said that like 20 times if you aren't going to read the comments then don't respond. try knowing what your talking about.
No, you didn't. (At least not on this forum, and certainly not anywhere where I saw it) So, it probably would be better not pretending that I don't know what I'm talking about when:
1.) You've only posted 2 comments here and said nothing about suicide in either of them...and
2.) The word "suicide" doesn't even appear in my posted reply to you.
Well either you didn't look far back enough to see what I was saying or they got deleted. Either way you jumped into my conversation with someone else without knowing what I was saying. My comments were more like 20 on this video.
If they didn't delete My comments, they didn't delete yours. I looked again and there still isn't a comment her by you that states "suicide is wrong" and I obviously can read, so I knew what you said. Now that we have That settled, answer The questions I asked you initially. I believe I asked 2.
the comments only show 4 pages back obviously that isn't all the comments so again you assumed something from a conversation I had with someone else that you don't have full knowledge of. So I'll give you that you weren't able to read my older messages so I'll just have to tell you what I already told someone else.
There are 35 comments registered on this video. By clicking on "view all comments" one can see each comment in the order it was posted on this, or any other video on YT, with the replys to each comment (usually) underneath them. If you wish to allude to a conversation you had some other time and place, by all means, do so, but dont accuse me of not reading the comments, or slapping at me with "try knowing what your talking about.". My inquiry was in context to this video, and your comments.
1. The Quran condems suicide for any reason. Suicide bombers are using a "hadith" that was written more than 100 years after the death of Mohamaad that has no solid backing. Infact a much more backed Hadith suggest again that suicide is wrong.
2. Attacking civilians (unarmed) purposly is haram (against islamic principles) even in war just like attacking plants and animals etc. you should only attack soldiers, those that fight you (with weapons), and leaders (congress,president, primenister)
So someone walking onto a buss with random civilians and blows it up. YES that is wrong or terrorism as long as when an Israeli soldier kills children on a school buss or Israeli government bulldozes homes with people blows through doors with explosives killing people inside snipers shooting civilians is called terrorism or atleast WAR CRIMES since its done by government paid soldiers. Otherwise its just manipulating statistics
1) The Quran condones suicide: Start with 9:111 and if you wish I'll post more. You spoke of a hadith, yet you quoted no Volume, Book, or Verse number, why? Read Sahih Bukhari V4,B52,#53 for more sales info about martyrdom.
2) Again there are numerous hadith concerning the allowability of killing even Muslim fighters in some cases. The term "innocent civilians" doesn't exist in Islamic Sharia law.
3) According to Sheik Yusef Qaradawi, Israeli civilians aren't "random', they are "militarized".
"Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain..."Quran 9:111
"Because the primary goal is to kill the enemy fisibiallah and the itishaad's death is a secondary result of his efforts(exploding a bomb among the enemies of Allah), they are true Martyrs..." - Shiekh Yusef Qaradawi. Shall I post more qoutes from Shiekhs, or Ayat?
Please look in my video section: I posted a video "Qaradawi's ruling on Jihad: N.I.B"
If you like "Black Sabbath", the music will make the video more palatible for you. Whether or not you do, the interview with Qaradawi lays out his position on the subject. While there are some Islamic scholars who disagree with him, some don't think he goes far enough.(He's too moderate) I would gladly take up this discussion with you there, where you can read his words for yourself, as I'm sure you doubt me.
As you can see, I not only give my references, I quote chapter and verse. Don't try to shine me on about the Sunnah either, I'm prepared to quote Sahih Bukari directly from Islamic websites. Mohammad himself killed civilians during his raids, and sieges. These are the precidences that militant sheikhs and muftis quote while inciting children to suicide.(Yes Suicide-Homicide) "Allah has purchased you..." He owns you. "Allah wants you to die for him, so he can show you Jennah and the Houris..."
The political parties need to be separated from the fighters. Every time the politician have an argument over something it turn into a blood bath on the streets. All these militia should be formed into one militia army with loyalty only to God, the People and Palestine. Sadly something like that happening is very slim.
The Israeliis are the real enemy. Killing innocent Palestinians left and right, never giving a thought of what cruel actions they are committing. If you compare Palestinian and Israell casualties; You will see the truth that I speak of.
Our media (US) wants us to believe that Iran is an enemy also. I didn't know that you were being told the same thing by your leaders. Could someone elaborate on which Arab leaders are involved and what they are saying?
The dictatorships of Saudi Arabia, Egypt, and Jordan are trying to convince the Arab people that Iran is trying to take over our lands. Their reasoning is based on propaganda and lies.
Most Arabs don't believe it and we see our current dictators who just helped Israel with their bombardment of Gaza as the real impediment to freedom in our region.
Iran is viewed in a positive light for its foreign policy position, some Arabs like their domestic policy while some disagree with it.
Thanks for replying and specifying. Now I have to look up details about anti-Iranian sentiment in those countries you mentioned. It's obvious that the US sponsors those dictatorships only because they are seen as "pro-western". I'm glad most Arabs don't buy their bullshit. More and more Americans are wising up after Bush blatantly lied to us about Iraq's WMDs.
You know what they say - "Fool me once, shame on... shame on you. Fool me, you can't get fooled again."
Palestinians are not divided between Fatah or Hamas, they are divided between to war or to peace. If Hamas started to seek for a mutual peace with Israel, or Fatah, a more radical group will rise among the Palestinians.
والله الراجل هدا تعب وهوة يلم امضاءات للمصالحة ربنا يجعل التعب فى ميزان حسناتو
elshaheen1 10 months ago
See the history of israel... Everytime it was the arab countries that attacked israel, but even when israel had no support from usa or britians they always won the wars that arabs started... As you can almoust all the agressors in the world are the muslims, in every war there a muslim side, people when you protect Islam you digging your own grave, when there were no israel what arabs did in this region? They had wars nonstop, when there will be no israel they fight everyone and will get to you!!
odfighter 2 years ago
Israel ALWAYS had the support of the west, I actually wonder how long they would last without it.
you are talking about the Muslims like they were the ONLY ones who ever fought a war.
you forgot about the crusaders, or the bible stories about the Jews invading and killing of the inhabitants of the land of Canaan, there is lot more cruelty in the Bible and the Torah if you want to look it up.
anyhow, you are just blinded by hate.
speedohead 2 years ago
Palestinian unity...sure, why not. Arabs are known for their "unity". Come to think of it... The only thing all Arabs have ever "unified" over is "Death to Israel".
They couldn't even get That done. When in history have the Arabs in Palestine ever governed themselves?
wideawake123 2 years ago
Bravo to this man !!!!!!!!!!!!!
oceanbound222 2 years ago
a national unity is nice but abbas is just an Israel puppet, he don't care about the Palestinians ! he just want to please the Israel terrorists and take money in return !
how can a leader of a poor country always wear very nice cloths and have many Mercedes cars ?
justicewillsurvive 2 years ago
It's hard to watch how part of holy land turn into the swamp. Hard to watch how dwellers of the swamp enjoy life there. And its hard to know that swamp inhabitants want to turn all holy land into the swamp.
But we will not submit - they can dream only.
Jewishfan 2 years ago
Jabotinsky zionists aka Likud are the snakes in the swamp or desert.
A snake is a snake regardless of where it lives.
Holy Land? Zionists shed innocent Palestinian life and that is an ABOMINATION!
Try reading the texts so may unserstand what Judaims is and what Torah is all about.
vistavision2 2 years ago
It sounds like the people of youtube themselves want to see fighting no side is right or wrong I admit as a Jew that Both side are responsible for the deaths of civilians in Gaza but Israel has a right to a state and Muslims have a problem with that so when the Muslims want peace they will leave Israel alone.
JustinJewish1 2 years ago
They didn't realized the new world trend, the "Be manipulated or die." philosophy.
valken666 2 years ago
Everyone wants peace in Gaza! The United States, Israel, Britain, everyone wants peace there. The Palestinians will need to realize that there are better methods than terrorism.
Mrpastry909 2 years ago
You mean to tell me you think Israel wants peace? Have you watched any news the past 60 years? Please define terrorism. I thought it meant attacking civilians. You seem to define it as attacking military. Israel attacks civilians and uses terrorism on its own citizens for political reasons.
arabrockerman 2 years ago 3
So then a man(actually usually boys or girls) walking onto a bus, or into a mall, or coffee shop wearing a vest packed with explosives, nails, nuts, bolts and marbles as shrapnel detonating it killing dozens of men, women, children, old, young...whatever...that's not terrorism, right? Those Itishaadi get streets named after them, but only if they kill Israeli citizens though... right?
wideawake123 2 years ago
Didn't I say that commiting suicide is wrong already? I thought I've said that like 20 times if you aren't going to read the comments then don't respond. try knowing what your talking about.
arabrockerman 2 years ago
I define terrorism as inspiring fear with violence in civilians and civilian areas without a regard for human life.
Israel kills miliants-that's a military action. Hamas kills children-that's terrorism.
Mrpastry909 2 years ago
You must be out of your mind!!!!
why don't we compare the number of children killed by Hamas Vs the children killed By israel.
you guys don't even think about what your are posting.
speedohead 2 years ago
So. . . those over-1000 civilians that Israel murdered were militants?
NumaNuma187 2 years ago
No, you didn't. (At least not on this forum, and certainly not anywhere where I saw it) So, it probably would be better not pretending that I don't know what I'm talking about when:
1.) You've only posted 2 comments here and said nothing about suicide in either of them...and
2.) The word "suicide" doesn't even appear in my posted reply to you.
Answer my questions.
wideawake123 2 years ago
Well either you didn't look far back enough to see what I was saying or they got deleted. Either way you jumped into my conversation with someone else without knowing what I was saying. My comments were more like 20 on this video.
arabrockerman 2 years ago
If they didn't delete My comments, they didn't delete yours. I looked again and there still isn't a comment her by you that states "suicide is wrong" and I obviously can read, so I knew what you said. Now that we have That settled, answer The questions I asked you initially. I believe I asked 2.
wideawake123 2 years ago
the comments only show 4 pages back obviously that isn't all the comments so again you assumed something from a conversation I had with someone else that you don't have full knowledge of. So I'll give you that you weren't able to read my older messages so I'll just have to tell you what I already told someone else.
arabrockerman 2 years ago
There are 35 comments registered on this video. By clicking on "view all comments" one can see each comment in the order it was posted on this, or any other video on YT, with the replys to each comment (usually) underneath them. If you wish to allude to a conversation you had some other time and place, by all means, do so, but dont accuse me of not reading the comments, or slapping at me with "try knowing what your talking about.". My inquiry was in context to this video, and your comments.
wideawake123 2 years ago
I'm sure I had that conversation on this video about this subject. PERIOD ok I'll give you credit your read but I know what I posted. end of that.
arabrockerman 2 years ago
1. The Quran condems suicide for any reason. Suicide bombers are using a "hadith" that was written more than 100 years after the death of Mohamaad that has no solid backing. Infact a much more backed Hadith suggest again that suicide is wrong.
2. Attacking civilians (unarmed) purposly is haram (against islamic principles) even in war just like attacking plants and animals etc. you should only attack soldiers, those that fight you (with weapons), and leaders (congress,president, primenister)
arabrockerman 2 years ago
So someone walking onto a buss with random civilians and blows it up. YES that is wrong or terrorism as long as when an Israeli soldier kills children on a school buss or Israeli government bulldozes homes with people blows through doors with explosives killing people inside snipers shooting civilians is called terrorism or atleast WAR CRIMES since its done by government paid soldiers. Otherwise its just manipulating statistics
arabrockerman 2 years ago
1) The Quran condones suicide: Start with 9:111 and if you wish I'll post more. You spoke of a hadith, yet you quoted no Volume, Book, or Verse number, why? Read Sahih Bukhari V4,B52,#53 for more sales info about martyrdom.
2) Again there are numerous hadith concerning the allowability of killing even Muslim fighters in some cases. The term "innocent civilians" doesn't exist in Islamic Sharia law.
3) According to Sheik Yusef Qaradawi, Israeli civilians aren't "random', they are "militarized".
wideawake123 2 years ago
How is 9:111 condoning suicide? You don't have a fuckin idea of what your talking about.
arabrockerman 2 years ago
Cursing at me only makes you look ignorant.
"Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain..."Quran 9:111
"Because the primary goal is to kill the enemy fisibiallah and the itishaad's death is a secondary result of his efforts(exploding a bomb among the enemies of Allah), they are true Martyrs..." - Shiekh Yusef Qaradawi. Shall I post more qoutes from Shiekhs, or Ayat?
wideawake123 2 years ago
Please look in my video section: I posted a video "Qaradawi's ruling on Jihad: N.I.B"
If you like "Black Sabbath", the music will make the video more palatible for you. Whether or not you do, the interview with Qaradawi lays out his position on the subject. While there are some Islamic scholars who disagree with him, some don't think he goes far enough.(He's too moderate) I would gladly take up this discussion with you there, where you can read his words for yourself, as I'm sure you doubt me.
wideawake123 2 years ago
As you can see, I not only give my references, I quote chapter and verse. Don't try to shine me on about the Sunnah either, I'm prepared to quote Sahih Bukari directly from Islamic websites. Mohammad himself killed civilians during his raids, and sieges. These are the precidences that militant sheikhs and muftis quote while inciting children to suicide.(Yes Suicide-Homicide) "Allah has purchased you..." He owns you. "Allah wants you to die for him, so he can show you Jennah and the Houris..."
wideawake123 2 years ago
Very cool, like a modern day Socrates.
dopefish55 2 years ago
The believers are but a single Brotherhood!
Hold all together to the rope of Allah and do not be divided amongst each other!
SalahuddinAlKurd 2 years ago
The political parties need to be separated from the fighters. Every time the politician have an argument over something it turn into a blood bath on the streets. All these militia should be formed into one militia army with loyalty only to God, the People and Palestine. Sadly something like that happening is very slim.
jerkinp 2 years ago
Maybe they need a six state solution.
FahhhhhQ 2 years ago
Instead of confronting the Israeli bombardment of Gaza, our Arab leaders want us to believe that Iran is the real enemy...
Entaruadunexecutor 2 years ago 3
The Israeliis are the real enemy. Killing innocent Palestinians left and right, never giving a thought of what cruel actions they are committing. If you compare Palestinian and Israell casualties; You will see the truth that I speak of.
EliteSoldier112 2 years ago
Entaruadunexecutor:
Our media (US) wants us to believe that Iran is an enemy also. I didn't know that you were being told the same thing by your leaders. Could someone elaborate on which Arab leaders are involved and what they are saying?
MrMan428 2 years ago
The dictatorships of Saudi Arabia, Egypt, and Jordan are trying to convince the Arab people that Iran is trying to take over our lands. Their reasoning is based on propaganda and lies.
Most Arabs don't believe it and we see our current dictators who just helped Israel with their bombardment of Gaza as the real impediment to freedom in our region.
Iran is viewed in a positive light for its foreign policy position, some Arabs like their domestic policy while some disagree with it.
Entaruadunexecutor 2 years ago
Thanks for replying and specifying. Now I have to look up details about anti-Iranian sentiment in those countries you mentioned. It's obvious that the US sponsors those dictatorships only because they are seen as "pro-western". I'm glad most Arabs don't buy their bullshit. More and more Americans are wising up after Bush blatantly lied to us about Iraq's WMDs.
You know what they say - "Fool me once, shame on... shame on you. Fool me, you can't get fooled again."
MrMan428 2 years ago
Palestinians are not divided between Fatah or Hamas, they are divided between to war or to peace. If Hamas started to seek for a mutual peace with Israel, or Fatah, a more radical group will rise among the Palestinians.
mercedescl 2 years ago
The arab "leaders" are funded and protected by zionists in the west.
The Saudis MF and the Kuwaitis and emiratis are watching and enjoying their cold beer , while the Jews kills and take over everything.
bar95900 2 years ago 2
Arab puppets kneel suck and swallow Izzzraeli cock. Arab puppet leaders - mubarak and that "king" from jordan are obedient !!!!!!!!!!
oceanbound222 2 years ago
unfortunately your right :(
naaz74 2 years ago