The leader sequence is better because it clears the intersection of stored left turning vehicles. With the post green left turn more turning vehicles wait for the through green cycle to end and stack up in the turn lane. If you clear those cars first then there are fewer cars that can be hit because they are gone before oncoming traffic can conflict. Most states have left turn leading but Missouri has the post green left arrow in some places.
The problem involves arterial streets that have heavy left turn traffic and where the controllers are set to lead / lag in order to prevent cars in the left turn pocket from backing up into and blocking the the thru lanes. In these instances permissive left turns may not clear the pocket so an additional protected left turn interval gets cycled in when the camera sees that the left turn pocket is full. I personally prefer louvered dog houses to the flashing yellow but that's the standard.
You won't get yellow trap if you make both left turns go first (red light with green arrow on both sides) and then allow permissive lefts until the perpendicular traffic gets their turn.
my country (england) protected left/right turn has a 3 oulor still but one mor circle at the bottom left/right part of the traffic signal sometimes at the bottom but when it goes green the arrow goes off but your still ok to make those turns cause usually the other road doesent have a progression
It's commonly called a "dog house" for protected / permissive turns. That's why 5sections are necessary. 3M made a bimodal head that had a narrow beam that could be aimed at a specific lane. The colors could be changed in a single section by moving lens filters inside the signal head. Thus a dog house could be replaced with a 3 section in-line signal. MUTCD frowned on "green in the middle" so some 3M heads ended up R-Y-G-(GA/YA) with the bottom arrow section flipping from green to yellow.
The early model can have the green arrow replaced with a bimodal with both green and yellow in one lens. all you have to do to make that happen to a 4wy signal is get a green and yellow bulb and a clear arrow lens
4-section flashing yellow arrow signals are designed to avoid the "Yellow Trap" condition when permissive intervals are used. Safet than dog house signals in those situations. I'll make a video on those once I get a 4-section signal built.
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Painted the AD cluster visors today. Still have some work to do on the doors and have to rewire all the sockets... but coming soon.
"Doghouse Traffic Light Signal"
BLANKNOTING 3 months ago
The leader sequence is better because it clears the intersection of stored left turning vehicles. With the post green left turn more turning vehicles wait for the through green cycle to end and stack up in the turn lane. If you clear those cars first then there are fewer cars that can be hit because they are gone before oncoming traffic can conflict. Most states have left turn leading but Missouri has the post green left arrow in some places.
riolindasucks 4 months ago
The problem involves arterial streets that have heavy left turn traffic and where the controllers are set to lead / lag in order to prevent cars in the left turn pocket from backing up into and blocking the the thru lanes. In these instances permissive left turns may not clear the pocket so an additional protected left turn interval gets cycled in when the camera sees that the left turn pocket is full. I personally prefer louvered dog houses to the flashing yellow but that's the standard.
wildhorseguy 8 months ago
You won't get yellow trap if you make both left turns go first (red light with green arrow on both sides) and then allow permissive lefts until the perpendicular traffic gets their turn.
DjPyro2010 8 months ago
No more doghouses, new light with flashing yellow lights will replace soon.
newsfanatic1000 8 months ago
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some people make left turns when the strait ahead arrow is on
MRFRUITCAKE98 1 year ago
some people make left turns when the strait arrow is on
MRFRUITCAKE98 1 year ago
my country (england) protected left/right turn has a 3 oulor still but one mor circle at the bottom left/right part of the traffic signal sometimes at the bottom but when it goes green the arrow goes off but your still ok to make those turns cause usually the other road doesent have a progression
MRFRUITCAKE98 1 year ago
0:19 - Kitty!
denelson83 1 year ago
they have these everywhere where i live!
Robotman2268 1 year ago
At 0:17, what kind of signal is that? I only saw once.
yoshigamer64 2 years ago
It's commonly called a "dog house" for protected / permissive turns. That's why 5sections are necessary. 3M made a bimodal head that had a narrow beam that could be aimed at a specific lane. The colors could be changed in a single section by moving lens filters inside the signal head. Thus a dog house could be replaced with a 3 section in-line signal. MUTCD frowned on "green in the middle" so some 3M heads ended up R-Y-G-(GA/YA) with the bottom arrow section flipping from green to yellow.
wildhorseguy 2 years ago
Did you ever check out programmable signals made by 3M and McCain? Those were used to cut down the confusion of drivers.
Sniper12890 2 years ago
The early model can have the green arrow replaced with a bimodal with both green and yellow in one lens. all you have to do to make that happen to a 4wy signal is get a green and yellow bulb and a clear arrow lens
Sniper12890 2 years ago
i have black ones
danielfrom757 2 years ago
those are some cool signals you got there!
form109 2 years ago
thats funny, the one in my room's a Marbelite. I found out when i looked behind the amber light
swampert11706 3 years ago
Very nice! 8" "Doghouse" signals are very rare.
soccerdude7330 3 years ago
I have those in my town
FireAlarmTech96 3 years ago
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GamePro0012 3 years ago
4-section flashing yellow arrow signals are designed to avoid the "Yellow Trap" condition when permissive intervals are used. Safet than dog house signals in those situations. I'll make a video on those once I get a 4-section signal built.
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Painted the AD cluster visors today. Still have some work to do on the doors and have to rewire all the sockets... but coming soon.
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Thanks for watching.
wildhorseguy 3 years ago
hey did you update your traffic light collection website yet? i'm still eager to see the cluster be fixed but i can wait if your busy.
deafmonk19 3 years ago
That looks really cool! I've never seen one of those before.
EvanToTheFutureDude 3 years ago
About 4 Section Flashing yellow turn signal is safer than dog house signal?
oldnavyjag 3 years ago