We Chinese were taught in school : Marco Polo took all our invention and science to Europe, but European ended up invaded us and stole our land with our knowledge.
@chimak3d Yeah, and they call Chinese criminals for stealing ideas!? WTF? They stole all your land AND your knowledge. I'm western, but i feel more like an asian. The west is a bitch.
@VanillaSnow23 holy crap did you even watch the video at all? "the chinese could fire up to 32,000 rockets in a single battle." SOUND HOSTILE ENOUGH TO YOU?
One thing that Chinese did not do after these inventions is they did not patented them, in which the idea of patent law only started in 1474 in Italy :-(.
To remain strong and influential, every country has to expand its territories. Just like the Romans, the British, Spaniards, French, Dutch, Vietnamese, Japanese. It's all part of history. Look what the US is doing now, we have to remain influential and that takes strategy and power. Chinese were brutal and so is everyone else, you can't treat your enemy nice because they will come back and kill you.
@KatiushaVN4 They invented gunpowder so they discovered what they can do with it etc... in late 1000 or 1500s the europeans found it and improve it so now they were superior in a kind of way
Yeah..after that, Europeans began to develop matchlock or musket which is better firearms. Chinese had adopted to matchlock technology too. Before that, the hand cannon was used in the war.
@KatiushaVN4 No, you are wrong, Vietnamese were famous for good casting of cannons, which was probably one of the best in the world, but a cannon is a Chinese invention...
@KatiushaVN4 Look, first cannons were used Song dynasty (960 - 1279 C.E.) and Ho Nguyen Trung lived from 1374 - 1446. That is a proof, now stop acting like a fool, even Viets are descendants of Chinese.
If u claimed that cannon was invented by Vietnamese, many other countries can also claim the same as u do..because the cannons were also made and used widely in many regions of the countries such as Arab, Europe, Turkey, etc.
The cannons were already existed and used in China before Ho Nguyen Trung was born. Frankly speaking, I do not know who Ho Nguyen Trung is, if it was him who invented cannon, he should be famous and widely known by ppl around the world. All the historian experts already proved and agreed that the cannon was first used in China. So is chinese who invented the gunpowder along with cannon. Ur claim is just a big lie.
Yes, China was and is a great civilization! But cut the crap about the image of China as a peaceful nation through the centuries :P : P They invaded KoreA, Vietnam and Burma among others for the sole purpose of expanding its territories. They too has been imperialistic, the very trait they like to bash Japan and the Us for :P :P
"Ancient China did not conquer the world, because they believed in peaceful correlation" But they did try to conquere neighbouring country and often with brutal methods and policies. China had multiple invasions of Vietnam and Korea. One of the largest invasion army in history was when Sui dynasty invaded Gogoryeo! China was often defeated despite being numerically superior and better armed :P
@ChenHung86 Hey, idiot. Invasion by Sui dynasty was lost because of weather, anyway, I strongly dislike attacking other countries, Suis broke the divine rule and were punished! By people! Now, attacks on Korea were done by Manchus, and Mings attacked NORTHERN Vietnam because that belonged to Yue dynasty in the past. Art of War is the world best military book. And Chinese repelled Huns and other barbarians, Sun Tzu beated his Chu enemy with 30000 men, while his enemy had 300000. Read some history
@GuitarDestroyer77777 Hm you seem very polite! As they say inn football, take the ball not the man. So you want me to read history!
Beside Sui dynasty Tang also had several invasions on Goguryeo without success!
"Mings attacked NORTHERN Vietnam because that belonged to Yue dynasty in the past." And yes this make 100 % logic for the chinese to occupy Vietnam and trying the best to destroy its culture!
You are an idiot, I'm not taking that back. Forget the football, we are talking about Ancient civilizations here. Tell me when did Tang dynasty invade Korea? Tang was a model for Korea and Japan, thus Korea and Japan were actually studying ancient China and learning. There was no occupation at that time. Another thing, Ming did not try to destroy Vietnam, they were even giving Vietnamese people an opportunity for life. Did you know that one of the Chief Architects of Forbidden City is Viet? heh
@GuitarDestroyer77777 So according to you logic China can attack Vietnam because it once was a part of China!!!!! Of course I am not surprise about this arrogancy. The Chinese are very clear that Yuan and Qing dynasty, that is why Tibet has been an intergrated part of China since the 13 th century!!!!!!!!!
@ChenHung86 I'm arrogant because I want to take back what is mine?! You are insane. You are arrogant for claiming it. But anyway, if I was Ming leader, I would not attack Vietnam. However, your mention about Tang - Korean war is misleading, Tangs did not lead a conquest, but a protection, Japanese have been attacking Korea, and Goguryeo king was doing some terrible stuff. Read it. By the way, Goguryeo was defeated in the end and China then came back, they did not stay and conquer.
@ChenHung86 Another thing, the reason why Goguryeo needed to be stopped because it was conquering Chinese land, that is the main reason for Tang, Sui attacks, not conquering as you say...
@ChenHung86 And another thing, Manchus are not Chinese, and I never said they are, they are the invaders. Now, if you want to talk to me further contact me on PM, I cannot type here anymore. There are a lot of messages slipping away, I just noticed your comment below which I didn't notice before...
@ChenHung86 Another thing bastard. When Qin Shi Huang Di united China, his army was powerful enough to take everyone. But instead of conquering like your buddies, he built a wall to protect his land, he did not invade. Get out of that European a** already man!
@GuitarDestroyer77777 So suddenly Manchu arent Chinese????????? How come every time we talk about Tibet Yuan and Qing are purely CHINESE, but when we talk about invasions the suddenly arent!!!!!
I bet you didn't know this either...China discover sex and recreation and pass the disvoery to I think a missionary from from some other country. Why do you think they have so many more people than everyone else? They got like a 1000 year head start.
I bet you didn't know this....China invented bathing concept. They shared it with a European trade mission and brouth the idea back to Europe where the idea of cleansing caught on.
@assmonkeyification Middle Ages perhaps, but in ancient times Romans had public baths larger than anything ever seen in China: the bath of Diocletian, Caracalla, etc... in Rome alone. This is because Romans had aqueducts. Check it out, you can even the ruins on Google Maps.
In fact a lot of the superioty discussed here is relevant to the Western Middle Ages after the collapse of the Roman Empire. The West took a fantastic dive into barbarism while China kept progressing.
@assmonkeyification Sorry.... I am so used to Korean's ultranationalism (which pisses off Chinese in my part of the world) that I totally lacked a sense of humour here......
look at all those comments i just want let all american boys know american only have most 300 years history and in CHINA we become one country for over 3000years a lots civilization gone only shows in the legend, but 中国（china) the kingdom of all the kingdoms still here, i can promise after years past peopel maybe will not know what is USA, but they still know the 中国（china)
The ruling class has stolen from all races everything it controls. People all over the world need to quit argueing with each other and start concentrating on the real enemy of all; which is those that divide us through its controlled media, so all countries can be conquered one by one with lie after lie after lie.
@emrelupus at least the chinese use martial arts to kick you turkic dogs, who fled the grassland....lmao!! your ancestors are bunch of barbarians who moves westward in search of sanctuary from the chinese armies, SHAME ON YOU!!!...be it in the past or present day, turkic barbarians are still inferior race...look at your fucking economy, even joining the EU won't make much diff for dumbasses like your kind
@SouthernSalute dude, the jews have no say in china...jews only have political power in the west cause most whites are just too dumb to take control of their economies....look at usa, most of the billionaires are jews and there is a jewish lobby which controls the economy from the shadow...this thing won't happen in asia, as you see most developed asian countries are dominated by the chinese, ever since ancient time, the jews dominates the west while chinese dominates the east..it won't clash
@joelcoates dominated the world?? don;t make me laugh...look at the world nowadays, american economy is going to collapse with trillions of debts...china owns most of the debt, the chinese can easily bankrupt USA if they really have to,
You asian guys are bitter. Just cause you can't get white girls doesn't mean you should be against it. Why do people date outside there race? These people like meeting NEW people. Dating a person outside ones race gives off an exotic flair to it. It's the same thing as Americans dating Europeans.
@yellowman88 lol, asians can get white girls, its just they dont want to. you people have the wrong idea, its not that we cant, its just we dont want too. im 75% asian and white, i can get a white girl, easily, and believe me, they want me too. people who have issues with these type of stuff like you, most likely have problems of their own, you probably cant even get a girl, so you talk shit to other and make em feel bad about themselves. pathetic, and racist i might add
@juki0h HAHAHAHAHHAHA, I guess your parents have inferior genes and cant get white girl so your dad had to get some sellout mail ordered bride? LOL, Hey last time I heard girls didn't like small dick hairy white boys? LOL, your so ashamed of ur mail ordered bride mom? White girls want Asian men cuz we are Rich have huge dicks and smooth to the touch. Go cry little caveman.
@SouthernSalute i would disagree on your opinion, no race is 'superior' to the other, take note that i simply mentioned i am honoured to be a chinese. caucasians are not superior than the chinese nor the other. all humans are equal. however people like you are a complete disgrace to your own race, stop degrading your self please. and really? you really believe that europeans actually came up with the gun idea... i am perplexed that such arrogance really exists in people.
@maddox139 yes the chinese invented was something called the fire lance, (it shot out rocks and fire, some people call this the first gun, but it doesnt look like a gun at all) and musket rifles and guns that actually used triggers were made by white men, (but of course they did model it after your crossbow)
@SouthernSalute yes the chinese did not invented the gun but the model of the gun was based on some of chinese concept. however what i am dissatisfied of is that you said that a particular race is superior than the rest. i have nothing against caucasions or other races, it is good to be proud of what you are, but no one should ever be arrogant. are you even a caucasian may i ask?
@maddox139 yes i am, and all the other races copied us, if the other races were left alone and isolated form the white race, then do u think that you would thrive like we have in technology? surely not, but i will admit one thing, chinese after being defeated by the brits got a hold of more white technology and used the weapons as their own, they adapted quicly
@SouthernSalute well, every race would have their good and bad sides. i do admire many men of science and they are all caucasians, but i have also learned that we should look each person as a fellow human being, noy by race. we are all humans and we came from the same ancestors milleniums ago. so lets be humble instead.
@maddox139 you have to see it from my point, im sure you want to preserve your race, culture, values and heritage,lets say what happened to america and Europe was happening to your people right now, what if millions of Negroes were pouring in and breeding with your women, and having mongrel babies, and what if there was murder and rape on your people by them, or if a female relative of yours commited suicide because ome black man raped her? would you want this to happen to your country?
@SouthernSalute ok i get what you mean alright. but really its how people are raised when they were young, each has thier own personality, yes everyone is a litle racist due to our DNA, but remember that we should not judge a person by their race. although i must admit i kinda oppose the mixed marraige thing, dunno why but i guess thats the racist part of me. whats up with the black man thing all the sudden?
@maddox139 in my country adn all white nations the jews have gotten control of our media, banks, and politics, they made many white women be in pornography, and to make it worse interracial porn, many white males today dont care about their heritage, they would rather be a "gangster" instead of a person who would wante to preseve the white race at all, your people had a similar situation when u didnt want any westernization of your people
@SouthernSalute where are you from anyway? i sympathise you, however it is still wrong to categorise people based on their race. i must agree however that it is a shame that many white males do not want to preserve your culture and heritage after all the things white people have accomplished, especially america.
@SouthernSalute i beg to differ, jews will never take over china, my fatherland has withstood countless obstacles and has never crumbled, this would be one of them. china is becoming more christian instead, so you can rest assure. i said fatherland cause i am not born in china, i am from singapore.
@maddox139 are u racially chineses? and the jews are crafty, they wont use bombs or guns to take over, they will use media, banks, and politics to do it
@maddox139 the jews use media banks and politics to take over countrys they go in, they will use it on china, hopefully the chinese are too smart for them
I'm an Asian guy and I'm also against interracial dating and interracial marriage, therefore what you have said makes sense to me. It really annoys me when I see an old white man or an old black man dating a young Asian woman. If you really adhere to the cultural purist principle, then you should try to convince some of your fellow white men to stop dating Asian women.
@TheXanian it pisses me off seeing interracial dating between white women and men of other races, of course it all depends on immagration, if China ever let non-chinese immagrants come into China then china would slowly become multicultural, of course at some point in time the poeple would have a revolution against it, of course if the Jews bring about the racial destruction of america and Europe they will go into Asian countrys, primarly Japan, China, and the Koreas,
China did not conquer the world because China had enough problems within its borders, they had a large population, they also have enough land, there was no need to invade anyone. the Chinese has always been a peaceful people, avoid war whenever possible(i dont blame them after all the wars they've had during ancient times, i guess they learned their lesson while the rest of the world(specially the west) are still trying to grasp the concept...)
racists are all alike everywhere - ignorant and belligerent with an air of unfounded feeling of superiority, taking pride in things done long ago by people long dead.
@pipobun haha ya, its just like blacks today complaining about slavery when none of them ever experienced it or was never even born back then. its like when country apologize for something that their grandparents parents did long ago. its so stupid. its over, its done, lets learn from it and move on
YOU FUCKING IGNORANT FOOLS! whether its china or WHATEVER country,the important thing is that they all contributed like TheXanian says,and even if they did invent things that are dangerous to people,like cabraden1 says,dont forget that EVERY invention IS NEUTRAL,and there are people in this world that use it ONLY for the purpose of harming other people for personal gain,so FFS dont try to accuse another country or culture cuz u dont have the capacity to view the matter from a different angle
Stop arguing about which culture or which country dominates others, that's pointless. I believe that all the civilizations have contributed to the development of mankind, Chinese, Greek, Roman, Egyptian, Mayan, all of them have contributed to mankind. It's ironic to see some Europeans and East Asians discredit each other's culture. Can't you guys just shut up and enjoy the video?
China did maybe invent it. Europe makes it far more effective and better! I think that Romans actually is older.. Remember. Roman is the people from Rome. I think that there country existed for longer time.
It doesn't matter who invented what. It matters who can take that technology and use it to the best effect. For example, the AK-47 was invented in Soviet Russia, but it's not the Russians who use it or glorified it. It's the various "freedom fighters" around the world that made it a household name.
Modern China appears to have learned from this mistake; hence they are reverse engineering EVERYTHING to make improved versions: ie. AK47, RP7, Russian tanks, missiles, planes, and American goods.
Chinese in history invaded more countries than any nation in the world... Peaceful correreation my ass!!! Chinese thinks their in top of the food chain or something? They are invade America by sending illegal immigrants as we speak! It's all part of their plan!
that's why after united of china they don't do that they just repair any damage was cause by war and live for the nice serenity because at ancient china people belong to emperor and emperor was the defender of people
for example when an A county that was rule by one king that when that kingdom become tyranny and the revolt begin and make the country divide to many state and they war each other for a long time and many blood was spill out after it was united again are there any one still want to conquest any country and spill the blood again.
the answer for why china didn't invade another country that because they got enough war and bored of it.
see the china history when one dynasty collapse it was divide to many state and to unite it take a long time and because of that who want to see more blood in battle when you see a lot of it in effort to unite it again .
haha losers all copied the chinese (except for the european/wessterners becuz they developed the gun and rocket) but taiwan, and some center asia countries copied the chinese. srry if u got offended but no offence intended but other countries did copied the chinese
just sayin...most everything china's invented has been revamped and improved on by others...i mean...your welcome for airplanes and thanks to the germans for tanks .....i guess thanks for gunpowder? oh and frisbees....dang things would be like 30 bucks without you guys
so peaceful correlation = thousands of years of tribal fighting leading to the rapid advancement of ancient china into development of iron tools and weapons while people elsewhere still used bronze and brass? china didn't expand because they weren't organized and destroyed each other on a regular basis until the rest of the world caught up
The chinese were very powerful but they went downhill in late Ming and Qing.
they were also busy fighting each other.
I really find the chinese history very interesting. they did so many amazing things and so many stupid things like closing their borders right after Zheng He died.
Europe also improved after Marco Polo who travelled to China and bringing a lot of inventions back to europe.
The europeans thought Yuan was the most advanced empire in the world
isn't saying that its an accident kind of racist? i mean i was watching the other history channel video and they called them engineers and yet in this ones an accident, like they couldn't have known what they were doing.
i hear all this racist bullshit about anything that wasn't invented by europeans was done by accident and couldn't have possibly been done on purpose.
its like saying shields were invented because someone accidentally noticed that covering flesh makes you bleed less
The ancient Chinese were certainly inventive. What they did with these inventions is more historically significant.
The Europeans acquired gunpowder and made firearms and subsequently dominated the world, and China for that matter. The Chinese just made pretty fireworks.
I applaud the chinese, i admire all cultures, and don't wish to stop you from feeling good about yourself, however, let me expand your mind a bit. There is nothing new under the sun. Anything u do has already been done by someone or something else before. You are assuming that human civilization is at max, 5 -6 thousand years old. Well actually, intelligent beings have been on earth 400 thousand years. Now, who invented what again??
@smartgirlfat Well do U think that western civilization is based only on gun powder? The main difference is systematic research focused on making humans live better. Its system of continuing innovation and freedom what started western revolution.
You are a moron. You are just jealous because you aren't Chinese. The Chinese had dynasties while your ancestors were still swinging from tress/living in caves and huts.
Europe was a total piece of shit after the Roman Empire fell. They lost hundreds of years of progress after the Empire fell and the Chinese and Ottomans became really powerful. Then for one reason or another, Europe became powerful. I would attribute it to the discovery of the New World
@f1775 I agree. I liked Karolus the great (the son of Pipin) but the rest was not as good. The Byzantine Empire was falling down and the Crusades were pointless.
@joelcoates During the time of the Ming Dynasty the Chinese had adopted gunpowder weapons to their arsenal which included muskets. If not for the Qing dynasty China of the date could compete to Europe in terms of firepower. Worse they also got numbers which Europe could never achieve. Also take note Chine gunpowder is varied some Chinese gunpowder weapons also contains poison.
@juliusyeung0330 don't mind my former message. i guess you already answered it for me. anyways i agree with you. stupid is one thing but retarded is really the best description... the Ming dynasty could just have modernized their armies and solidified its borders. they have the great wall and the access of gunpowder technologies. they could catch up to europe anytime but they instead wasted their energies on something that is wasteful instead... pretty retarded.
@joelcoates That's a load of shit, Firearms such as rocket, muskets, cannon were used in China 300 years before it was known in Europe. Check out China seige weapon and history of Rocket, Missile, Cannon, Musket(Han held cannon), Watermine and Landmine. As well, cheack out Ming dynasty navy. China was 500 years more sopphicated than Europe from Acient age to 1500 AD
@joelcoates the Europeans stole the invention of guns, and no, Chinese guns were the most advanced until about the 1700s. Then their economy and military went downhill, when China banned the use of guns.
Chinese innovation was halted by western imperialism, now they're back on their feet and rolling again, its only a matter of time when they will have the edge in everything under the sun.
yes china invented all these things...but show them a fork and they are stumped
vipertruck99 1 day ago
We Chinese were taught in school : Marco Polo took all our invention and science to Europe, but European ended up invaded us and stole our land with our knowledge.
chimak3d 3 weeks ago
@chimak3d Yeah, and they call Chinese criminals for stealing ideas!? WTF? They stole all your land AND your knowledge. I'm western, but i feel more like an asian. The west is a bitch.
Ruttie2 2 weeks ago
China invention, Other nation perfect it. ...
lemonbone 4 weeks ago
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GuitarDestroyer77777 1 month ago
They also invented landmines.
NerfMaster000 1 month ago
@VanillaSnow23 not really, sometimes the chinese uses matchlock, a early gun prototype for defence.
NerfMaster000 1 month ago
@VanillaSnow23 Yeah, and eventually they went back attacked China with their inventions.
LADrandomproduction 1 month ago
ZOMAIGOSH I've been to that museum :D
LADrandomproduction 1 month ago
@VanillaSnow23 holy crap did you even watch the video at all? "the chinese could fire up to 32,000 rockets in a single battle." SOUND HOSTILE ENOUGH TO YOU?
aaronvespro 1 month ago
Chinese are stupid and fat like Panda; Japan make everything
theend1245 1 month ago
@theend1245
Japan make everything they learned from China and Western in the past, tard.
wewegon 1 month ago
@VanillaSnow23
No, it isn't used in recreational/entertainment purposes only, but in the warfare too.
wewegon 3 months ago
@wewegon Yeah that's true. The Chinese used it for warfare, but that was in like the 6th century or something? LOL..
VanillaSnow23 3 months ago
There might just be a repeat of the 8 Powers occupying China, and the whole 20th century repeating itself again.
gnoynix 3 months ago
@jceepf
Not true. Today you see a lot of public baths in China without doors, and masseurs rubbing the grime off fully-naked men in public.
gnoynix 3 months ago
I agree with all those inventions except of the missile.
China has been the most important place of the world... Only in the 1700s to 1900s they were a bit weak.. But now China has rissen again. :D
VictumRoManius 3 months ago
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wewegon 3 months ago
@VictumRoManius
Yeah..I think modern missile was invented by Russian, German, American, etc.
wewegon 3 months ago
@wewegon Yupp.
VictumRoManius 3 months ago
@wewegon Point?
VanillaSnow23 3 months ago
One thing that Chinese did not do after these inventions is they did not patented them, in which the idea of patent law only started in 1474 in Italy :-(.
wewegon 3 months ago
can the chinese do it again in the 21st century
TheDreamer138 3 months ago
@TheDreamer138 they're already doing it but they gotta bankrupt the US first
godwarmw2 3 months ago
To remain strong and influential, every country has to expand its territories. Just like the Romans, the British, Spaniards, French, Dutch, Vietnamese, Japanese. It's all part of history. Look what the US is doing now, we have to remain influential and that takes strategy and power. Chinese were brutal and so is everyone else, you can't treat your enemy nice because they will come back and kill you.
billma18 4 months ago
@Goodcapcay
Go take English course!
KatiushaVN4 4 months ago
since when Chinese invented cannon??? What a joke!
KatiushaVN4 4 months ago
@KatiushaVN4
Yeah..it is a joke for u coz u are ignorant..xD
wewegon 4 months ago
@KatiushaVN4 They invented gunpowder so they discovered what they can do with it etc... in late 1000 or 1500s the europeans found it and improve it so now they were superior in a kind of way
TheSuperieur 4 months ago
@TheSuperieur EH?!
GuitarDestroyer77777 4 months ago
@TheSuperieur
Yeah..after that, Europeans began to develop matchlock or musket which is better firearms. Chinese had adopted to matchlock technology too. Before that, the hand cannon was used in the war.
wewegon 4 months ago
@KatiushaVN4 Go to the wikipedia and read. Or buy a history book.
GuitarDestroyer77777 4 months ago
@GuitarDestroyer77777
It was Vietnamese who invented cannon. His name was Ho Nguyen Trung (胡元澄). He then gave China his technology
KatiushaVN4 3 months ago
@KatiushaVN4 No, you are wrong, Vietnamese were famous for good casting of cannons, which was probably one of the best in the world, but a cannon is a Chinese invention...
GuitarDestroyer77777 3 months ago
@KatiushaVN4 It was the Song dynasty where first gunpowder artillery was invented.
GuitarDestroyer77777 3 months ago
@KatiushaVN4 Get it?
GuitarDestroyer77777 3 months ago
@GuitarDestroyer77777
Vietnamese not Chinese who made cannon
KatiushaVN4 3 months ago
@KatiushaVN4 I see you are ignorant of your words too, nevermind, continue your nonsense
GuitarDestroyer77777 3 months ago
@GuitarDestroyer77777
Go to Google and search for 胡元澄 (in case if you can read Chinese). Enough said.
KatiushaVN4 3 months ago
@KatiushaVN4 Look, first cannons were used Song dynasty (960 - 1279 C.E.) and Ho Nguyen Trung lived from 1374 - 1446. That is a proof, now stop acting like a fool, even Viets are descendants of Chinese.
GuitarDestroyer77777 3 months ago
@KatiushaVN4
If u claimed that cannon was invented by Vietnamese, many other countries can also claim the same as u do..because the cannons were also made and used widely in many regions of the countries such as Arab, Europe, Turkey, etc.
wewegon 3 months ago
@KatiushaVN4
The cannons were already existed and used in China before Ho Nguyen Trung was born. Frankly speaking, I do not know who Ho Nguyen Trung is, if it was him who invented cannon, he should be famous and widely known by ppl around the world. All the historian experts already proved and agreed that the cannon was first used in China. So is chinese who invented the gunpowder along with cannon. Ur claim is just a big lie.
wewegon 3 months ago
Yes, China was and is a great civilization! But cut the crap about the image of China as a peaceful nation through the centuries :P : P They invaded KoreA, Vietnam and Burma among others for the sole purpose of expanding its territories. They too has been imperialistic, the very trait they like to bash Japan and the Us for :P :P
ChenHung86 4 months ago
"Ancient China did not conquer the world, because they believed in peaceful correlation" But they did try to conquere neighbouring country and often with brutal methods and policies. China had multiple invasions of Vietnam and Korea. One of the largest invasion army in history was when Sui dynasty invaded Gogoryeo! China was often defeated despite being numerically superior and better armed :P
ChenHung86 4 months ago
@ChenHung86 Hey, idiot. Invasion by Sui dynasty was lost because of weather, anyway, I strongly dislike attacking other countries, Suis broke the divine rule and were punished! By people! Now, attacks on Korea were done by Manchus, and Mings attacked NORTHERN Vietnam because that belonged to Yue dynasty in the past. Art of War is the world best military book. And Chinese repelled Huns and other barbarians, Sun Tzu beated his Chu enemy with 30000 men, while his enemy had 300000. Read some history
GuitarDestroyer77777 4 months ago
@GuitarDestroyer77777 Hm you seem very polite! As they say inn football, take the ball not the man. So you want me to read history!
Beside Sui dynasty Tang also had several invasions on Goguryeo without success!
"Mings attacked NORTHERN Vietnam because that belonged to Yue dynasty in the past." And yes this make 100 % logic for the chinese to occupy Vietnam and trying the best to destroy its culture!
ChenHung86 4 months ago
You are an idiot, I'm not taking that back. Forget the football, we are talking about Ancient civilizations here. Tell me when did Tang dynasty invade Korea? Tang was a model for Korea and Japan, thus Korea and Japan were actually studying ancient China and learning. There was no occupation at that time. Another thing, Ming did not try to destroy Vietnam, they were even giving Vietnamese people an opportunity for life. Did you know that one of the Chief Architects of Forbidden City is Viet? heh
GuitarDestroyer77777 4 months ago
@GuitarDestroyer77777 So according to you logic China can attack Vietnam because it once was a part of China!!!!! Of course I am not surprise about this arrogancy. The Chinese are very clear that Yuan and Qing dynasty, that is why Tibet has been an intergrated part of China since the 13 th century!!!!!!!!!
ChenHung86 4 months ago
@ChenHung86 I'm arrogant because I want to take back what is mine?! You are insane. You are arrogant for claiming it. But anyway, if I was Ming leader, I would not attack Vietnam. However, your mention about Tang - Korean war is misleading, Tangs did not lead a conquest, but a protection, Japanese have been attacking Korea, and Goguryeo king was doing some terrible stuff. Read it. By the way, Goguryeo was defeated in the end and China then came back, they did not stay and conquer.
GuitarDestroyer77777 4 months ago
@ChenHung86 Another thing, the reason why Goguryeo needed to be stopped because it was conquering Chinese land, that is the main reason for Tang, Sui attacks, not conquering as you say...
GuitarDestroyer77777 4 months ago
@ChenHung86 And another thing, Manchus are not Chinese, and I never said they are, they are the invaders. Now, if you want to talk to me further contact me on PM, I cannot type here anymore. There are a lot of messages slipping away, I just noticed your comment below which I didn't notice before...
GuitarDestroyer77777 4 months ago
@ChenHung86 Another thing bastard. When Qin Shi Huang Di united China, his army was powerful enough to take everyone. But instead of conquering like your buddies, he built a wall to protect his land, he did not invade. Get out of that European a** already man!
GuitarDestroyer77777 4 months ago
@GuitarDestroyer77777 What has this to do with the multiple chinese invasions of Vietnam, Korea and Burma???????
ChenHung86 4 months ago
@ChenHung86 Invasion of Qing dynasty exactly, they are manchu...
GuitarDestroyer77777 4 months ago
@GuitarDestroyer77777 So suddenly Manchu arent Chinese????????? How come every time we talk about Tibet Yuan and Qing are purely CHINESE, but when we talk about invasions the suddenly arent!!!!!
ChenHung86 4 months ago
Made in CHina
shadowsa123 5 months ago
The trade mission thought the the penis was like a breast to milk, so they milk it and drank thinking it was like cow's milk.
assmonkeyification 6 months ago
I bet you didn't know this either...China discover sex and recreation and pass the disvoery to I think a missionary from from some other country. Why do you think they have so many more people than everyone else? They got like a 1000 year head start.
assmonkeyification 6 months ago
I bet you didn't know this....China invented bathing concept. They shared it with a European trade mission and brouth the idea back to Europe where the idea of cleansing caught on.
assmonkeyification 6 months ago
@assmonkeyification Middle Ages perhaps, but in ancient times Romans had public baths larger than anything ever seen in China: the bath of Diocletian, Caracalla, etc... in Rome alone. This is because Romans had aqueducts. Check it out, you can even the ruins on Google Maps.
In fact a lot of the superioty discussed here is relevant to the Western Middle Ages after the collapse of the Roman Empire. The West took a fantastic dive into barbarism while China kept progressing.
jceepf 5 months ago 5
@jceepf I was joking, dude. Don't you know bullshit when you smell it.
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jceepf 5 months ago
@assmonkeyification Sorry.... I am so used to Korean's ultranationalism (which pisses off Chinese in my part of the world) that I totally lacked a sense of humour here......
jceepf 5 months ago
look at all those comments i just want let all american boys know american only have most 300 years history and in CHINA we become one country for over 3000years a lots civilization gone only shows in the legend, but 中国（china) the kingdom of all the kingdoms still here, i can promise after years past peopel maybe will not know what is USA, but they still know the 中国（china)
gdzbear 6 months ago
wow i cant believe china created those things
Eyeball3000guy 7 months ago
The ruling class has stolen from all races everything it controls. People all over the world need to quit argueing with each other and start concentrating on the real enemy of all; which is those that divide us through its controlled media, so all countries can be conquered one by one with lie after lie after lie.
olga2415 7 months ago
@emrelupus at least the chinese use martial arts to kick you turkic dogs, who fled the grassland....lmao!! your ancestors are bunch of barbarians who moves westward in search of sanctuary from the chinese armies, SHAME ON YOU!!!...be it in the past or present day, turkic barbarians are still inferior race...look at your fucking economy, even joining the EU won't make much diff for dumbasses like your kind
manchewl 8 months ago
@SouthernSalute dude, the jews have no say in china...jews only have political power in the west cause most whites are just too dumb to take control of their economies....look at usa, most of the billionaires are jews and there is a jewish lobby which controls the economy from the shadow...this thing won't happen in asia, as you see most developed asian countries are dominated by the chinese, ever since ancient time, the jews dominates the west while chinese dominates the east..it won't clash
manchewl 8 months ago
@joelcoates dominated the world?? don;t make me laugh...look at the world nowadays, american economy is going to collapse with trillions of debts...china owns most of the debt, the chinese can easily bankrupt USA if they really have to,
manchewl 8 months ago
You asian guys are bitter. Just cause you can't get white girls doesn't mean you should be against it. Why do people date outside there race? These people like meeting NEW people. Dating a person outside ones race gives off an exotic flair to it. It's the same thing as Americans dating Europeans.
yellowman88 9 months ago
@yellowman88 lol, asians can get white girls, its just they dont want to. you people have the wrong idea, its not that we cant, its just we dont want too. im 75% asian and white, i can get a white girl, easily, and believe me, they want me too. people who have issues with these type of stuff like you, most likely have problems of their own, you probably cant even get a girl, so you talk shit to other and make em feel bad about themselves. pathetic, and racist i might add
juki0h 8 months ago
@juki0h im asian... some dude was talking about how Asians should stick to his own race. i disagree. go for whoever you like.
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Ruttie2 2 weeks ago
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@yellowman88 Probably because they don't want competition. They're afraid to be whipped be again. Morons. -_-
Ruttie2 2 weeks ago
@juki0h HAHAHAHAHHAHA, I guess your parents have inferior genes and cant get white girl so your dad had to get some sellout mail ordered bride? LOL, Hey last time I heard girls didn't like small dick hairy white boys? LOL, your so ashamed of ur mail ordered bride mom? White girls want Asian men cuz we are Rich have huge dicks and smooth to the touch. Go cry little caveman.
lppoqql 7 months ago
@lppoqql um... ya sure buddy. im asian you know, i think you misunderstood what i wrote
juki0h 7 months ago
@lppoqql and one more thing, your sad man, very sad if thats how you think.
juki0h 7 months ago
@juki0h its ok bro, you mad? atleast my mom is not a mail ordered bride lol
lppoqql 7 months ago
Topic : Chinese invented gun, canon, rocket, missile
Why ?? : Because they were chiken , they were fighting like girls So they invent Martial Arts !! HAHAAA :)
Çok eğlendim bunu yazarken a.q.
emrelupus 9 months ago
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@emrelupus haha you are mentally retarded :)
chengda85 7 months ago
i am honoured to be a pure han chinese:D
maddox139 10 months ago
@maddox139 thje white man invented the gun and are superior to chinese
SouthernSalute 10 months ago
@SouthernSalute i would disagree on your opinion, no race is 'superior' to the other, take note that i simply mentioned i am honoured to be a chinese. caucasians are not superior than the chinese nor the other. all humans are equal. however people like you are a complete disgrace to your own race, stop degrading your self please. and really? you really believe that europeans actually came up with the gun idea... i am perplexed that such arrogance really exists in people.
maddox139 10 months ago
@maddox139 yes the chinese invented was something called the fire lance, (it shot out rocks and fire, some people call this the first gun, but it doesnt look like a gun at all) and musket rifles and guns that actually used triggers were made by white men, (but of course they did model it after your crossbow)
SouthernSalute 10 months ago
@SouthernSalute yes the chinese did not invented the gun but the model of the gun was based on some of chinese concept. however what i am dissatisfied of is that you said that a particular race is superior than the rest. i have nothing against caucasions or other races, it is good to be proud of what you are, but no one should ever be arrogant. are you even a caucasian may i ask?
maddox139 10 months ago
@maddox139 yes i am, and all the other races copied us, if the other races were left alone and isolated form the white race, then do u think that you would thrive like we have in technology? surely not, but i will admit one thing, chinese after being defeated by the brits got a hold of more white technology and used the weapons as their own, they adapted quicly
SouthernSalute 10 months ago
@SouthernSalute well, every race would have their good and bad sides. i do admire many men of science and they are all caucasians, but i have also learned that we should look each person as a fellow human being, noy by race. we are all humans and we came from the same ancestors milleniums ago. so lets be humble instead.
maddox139 10 months ago
@maddox139 you have to see it from my point, im sure you want to preserve your race, culture, values and heritage,lets say what happened to america and Europe was happening to your people right now, what if millions of Negroes were pouring in and breeding with your women, and having mongrel babies, and what if there was murder and rape on your people by them, or if a female relative of yours commited suicide because ome black man raped her? would you want this to happen to your country?
SouthernSalute 10 months ago
@SouthernSalute ok i get what you mean alright. but really its how people are raised when they were young, each has thier own personality, yes everyone is a litle racist due to our DNA, but remember that we should not judge a person by their race. although i must admit i kinda oppose the mixed marraige thing, dunno why but i guess thats the racist part of me. whats up with the black man thing all the sudden?
maddox139 10 months ago
@maddox139 in my country adn all white nations the jews have gotten control of our media, banks, and politics, they made many white women be in pornography, and to make it worse interracial porn, many white males today dont care about their heritage, they would rather be a "gangster" instead of a person who would wante to preseve the white race at all, your people had a similar situation when u didnt want any westernization of your people
SouthernSalute 10 months ago
@SouthernSalute where are you from anyway? i sympathise you, however it is still wrong to categorise people based on their race. i must agree however that it is a shame that many white males do not want to preserve your culture and heritage after all the things white people have accomplished, especially america.
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SouthernSalute 10 months ago
@SouthernSalute i beg to differ, jews will never take over china, my fatherland has withstood countless obstacles and has never crumbled, this would be one of them. china is becoming more christian instead, so you can rest assure. i said fatherland cause i am not born in china, i am from singapore.
maddox139 10 months ago
@maddox139 are u racially chineses? and the jews are crafty, they wont use bombs or guns to take over, they will use media, banks, and politics to do it
SouthernSalute 10 months ago
@maddox139 te jew will use politics, banks and media to take over, not by guns or bombs
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SouthernSalute 10 months ago
they will use guns media and banks to take over china
SouthernSalute 10 months ago
@maddox139 the jews use media banks and politics to take over countrys they go in, they will use it on china, hopefully the chinese are too smart for them
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IAMSORRYism 10 months ago
@SouthernSalute
I'm an Asian guy and I'm also against interracial dating and interracial marriage, therefore what you have said makes sense to me. It really annoys me when I see an old white man or an old black man dating a young Asian woman. If you really adhere to the cultural purist principle, then you should try to convince some of your fellow white men to stop dating Asian women.
TheXanian 9 months ago
@TheXanian it pisses me off seeing interracial dating between white women and men of other races, of course it all depends on immagration, if China ever let non-chinese immagrants come into China then china would slowly become multicultural, of course at some point in time the poeple would have a revolution against it, of course if the Jews bring about the racial destruction of america and Europe they will go into Asian countrys, primarly Japan, China, and the Koreas,
SouthernSalute 9 months ago
@maddox139 the jews are evil, they will use politics, banks and media to conquer, not guns or bombs
SouthernSalute 10 months ago
@SouthernSalute lol, ya right
jukio02 10 months ago
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@maddox139 they will use politics, media nad banks
SouthernSalute 10 months ago
China did not conquer the world because China had enough problems within its borders, they had a large population, they also have enough land, there was no need to invade anyone. the Chinese has always been a peaceful people, avoid war whenever possible(i dont blame them after all the wars they've had during ancient times, i guess they learned their lesson while the rest of the world(specially the west) are still trying to grasp the concept...)
SierraHawkProduction 11 months ago
@SierraHawkProduction I couldn't agree more!
jto1916 11 months ago
well at least they didnt invent the first selective fire rifle
goldeneye0019 11 months ago
racists are all alike everywhere - ignorant and belligerent with an air of unfounded feeling of superiority, taking pride in things done long ago by people long dead.
pipobun 1 year ago
@pipobun haha ya, its just like blacks today complaining about slavery when none of them ever experienced it or was never even born back then. its like when country apologize for something that their grandparents parents did long ago. its so stupid. its over, its done, lets learn from it and move on
juki0h 8 months ago
YOU FUCKING IGNORANT FOOLS! whether its china or WHATEVER country,the important thing is that they all contributed like TheXanian says,and even if they did invent things that are dangerous to people,like cabraden1 says,dont forget that EVERY invention IS NEUTRAL,and there are people in this world that use it ONLY for the purpose of harming other people for personal gain,so FFS dont try to accuse another country or culture cuz u dont have the capacity to view the matter from a different angle
MELIDILEE 1 year ago
Stop arguing about which culture or which country dominates others, that's pointless. I believe that all the civilizations have contributed to the development of mankind, Chinese, Greek, Roman, Egyptian, Mayan, all of them have contributed to mankind. It's ironic to see some Europeans and East Asians discredit each other's culture. Can't you guys just shut up and enjoy the video?
TheXanian 1 year ago
China did maybe invent it. Europe makes it far more effective and better! I think that Romans actually is older.. Remember. Roman is the people from Rome. I think that there country existed for longer time.
flashbag1 1 year ago
@flashbag1 roman fail
and how is Europe good?
they conquer the world
if the chinese wants to conquer the world
they would have done it already.
europeans are evil
and killed many people
that is why they have low population
purefatdude2 1 year ago
Chinese didnot develop Rockets but Sultan Tipu a muslim king in India when China was not even a major military force..
shazusa2000 1 year ago
Go china!!
outbreakerchong 1 year ago
It doesn't matter who invented what. It matters who can take that technology and use it to the best effect. For example, the AK-47 was invented in Soviet Russia, but it's not the Russians who use it or glorified it. It's the various "freedom fighters" around the world that made it a household name.
Modern China appears to have learned from this mistake; hence they are reverse engineering EVERYTHING to make improved versions: ie. AK47, RP7, Russian tanks, missiles, planes, and American goods.
jephboy 1 year ago
@jephboy how old are u?
it does matter who invent it fool
purefatdude2 1 year ago
Longest surviving civilisation which were unhygenic and created the bubonic plague
redrooster241 1 year ago
Heh-heh, everybody knows Marco Polo taught the Chinese everything... :)
joelcoates 1 year ago
Chinese in history invaded more countries than any nation in the world... Peaceful correreation my ass!!! Chinese thinks their in top of the food chain or something? They are invade America by sending illegal immigrants as we speak! It's all part of their plan!
1one1won 1 year ago
We, as humans should be proud of learning from our own "cultural relatives" , and building on them.
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serbmafioso3 1 year ago
china product are very weak and low quality like garbage
jhaycutie19 1 year ago
@jhaycutie19 Chinese people can make good things, but became a mass killer business cost savings
zbxsst 7 months ago
that's why after united of china they don't do that they just repair any damage was cause by war and live for the nice serenity because at ancient china people belong to emperor and emperor was the defender of people
p0w3r2100 1 year ago
for example when an A county that was rule by one king that when that kingdom become tyranny and the revolt begin and make the country divide to many state and they war each other for a long time and many blood was spill out after it was united again are there any one still want to conquest any country and spill the blood again.
p0w3r2100 1 year ago
the answer for why china didn't invade another country that because they got enough war and bored of it.
see the china history when one dynasty collapse it was divide to many state and to unite it take a long time and because of that who want to see more blood in battle when you see a lot of it in effort to unite it again .
p0w3r2100 1 year ago
Hahaha they invented all these but it's illegal to have em there! Lmfao
DanJeffery07 1 year ago
false, still a superpower
JPau216 1 year ago
haha losers all copied the chinese (except for the european/wessterners becuz they developed the gun and rocket) but taiwan, and some center asia countries copied the chinese. srry if u got offended but no offence intended but other countries did copied the chinese
KiraYamato636 1 year ago
在古代中国不屑研发武器 我们尽量避免用武力解决问题 现在也是这样 不战而屈人之兵乃上上之策 中国古代还有无数现代人不知道的发明 他们用过之后自己的发明之后就会毁掉 不留给后人 因为他们知道可以过于发达会带来灾难 如果你们真正的了解亚特兰蒂斯就会明白
lonelymagi 1 year ago
this is a good video, I learned something =D
Yvesyew 1 year ago
god i hate Qing dynasty!
if Ming didn't establish the closed border law, they would've become more powerful
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pcekeep 1 year ago
just sayin...most everything china's invented has been revamped and improved on by others...i mean...your welcome for airplanes and thanks to the germans for tanks .....i guess thanks for gunpowder? oh and frisbees....dang things would be like 30 bucks without you guys
echoes12668 1 year ago
so peaceful correlation = thousands of years of tribal fighting leading to the rapid advancement of ancient china into development of iron tools and weapons while people elsewhere still used bronze and brass? china didn't expand because they weren't organized and destroyed each other on a regular basis until the rest of the world caught up
echoes12668 1 year ago
@echoes12668 that's true my friend
The chinese were very powerful but they went downhill in late Ming and Qing.
they were also busy fighting each other.
I really find the chinese history very interesting. they did so many amazing things and so many stupid things like closing their borders right after Zheng He died.
Europe also improved after Marco Polo who travelled to China and bringing a lot of inventions back to europe.
The europeans thought Yuan was the most advanced empire in the world
juliusyeung0330 1 year ago
@echoes12668 Yuan used notes instead of coins and later Columbus tried to reach Yuan and India only accidentally finding America.
Back then, europeans were not as advanced as the Chinese. but later on they went down. and that's how the english won the opium wars.
Although i love the chinese history, i have to admit they were not strong in politics.
The Romans and The Greeks were better.
juliusyeung0330 1 year ago
isn't saying that its an accident kind of racist? i mean i was watching the other history channel video and they called them engineers and yet in this ones an accident, like they couldn't have known what they were doing.
i hear all this racist bullshit about anything that wasn't invented by europeans was done by accident and couldn't have possibly been done on purpose.
its like saying shields were invented because someone accidentally noticed that covering flesh makes you bleed less
MANAUIAkioku 1 year ago
imagine..... 800 explosive arrows hurdling towards your immobile army in the middle of the night
B08635J 1 year ago
The ancient Chinese were certainly inventive. What they did with these inventions is more historically significant.
The Europeans acquired gunpowder and made firearms and subsequently dominated the world, and China for that matter. The Chinese just made pretty fireworks.
joelcoates 1 year ago
@joelcoates
Chinese invented first gun, first cannon, first machine gun
got it ?
Europeans have nothing before and during dark age.
It was the Marco Polo that stolen the gun making ideas to Europe, then western revolution started and innovation started happening.
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@smartgirlfat Do you know our Ming dynasty navy, it was before Marco Polo.
wuyunchi 1 year ago
@wuyunchi dude marco polo exsisted before ming dynasty!!!
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BeauMuseVids 1 year ago
@BeauMuseVids machine gun is invented by Britain
purefatdude2 1 year ago
@smartgirlfat
I applaud the chinese, i admire all cultures, and don't wish to stop you from feeling good about yourself, however, let me expand your mind a bit. There is nothing new under the sun. Anything u do has already been done by someone or something else before. You are assuming that human civilization is at max, 5 -6 thousand years old. Well actually, intelligent beings have been on earth 400 thousand years. Now, who invented what again??
yechris2001 1 year ago
@smartgirlfat Well do U think that western civilization is based only on gun powder? The main difference is systematic research focused on making humans live better. Its system of continuing innovation and freedom what started western revolution.
MrLasicak 1 year ago
@smartgirlfat
SUCH HONORABLE THINGS TO INVENT; THINGS TO KILL PEOPLE WITH, WOW,
GIVE CHINA A METAL FOR FIGURING A MORE EFFICIENT WAY TO KILL PEOPLE.
FABULOUS ACHIEVEMENTS FOR MANKIND.
cabraden1 1 year ago
@cabraden1 if they didnt invent it
someone else would invent it
purefatdude2 1 year ago
@joelcoates
You are a moron. You are just jealous because you aren't Chinese. The Chinese had dynasties while your ancestors were still swinging from tress/living in caves and huts.
Nickdapantydroppa 1 year ago
@joelcoates
Europe was a total piece of shit after the Roman Empire fell. They lost hundreds of years of progress after the Empire fell and the Chinese and Ottomans became really powerful. Then for one reason or another, Europe became powerful. I would attribute it to the discovery of the New World
f1775 1 year ago
@f1775 I agree. I liked Karolus the great (the son of Pipin) but the rest was not as good. The Byzantine Empire was falling down and the Crusades were pointless.
Romans are the best
juliusyeung0330 1 year ago
@joelcoates During the time of the Ming Dynasty the Chinese had adopted gunpowder weapons to their arsenal which included muskets. If not for the Qing dynasty China of the date could compete to Europe in terms of firepower. Worse they also got numbers which Europe could never achieve. Also take note Chine gunpowder is varied some Chinese gunpowder weapons also contains poison.
pcekeep 1 year ago
@pcekeep but that wouldn't help because china was already corrupted since late ming and they were still curropted in the early Qing.
their government is always retarded even now.
juliusyeung0330 1 year ago
@juliusyeung0330 don't mind my former message. i guess you already answered it for me. anyways i agree with you. stupid is one thing but retarded is really the best description... the Ming dynasty could just have modernized their armies and solidified its borders. they have the great wall and the access of gunpowder technologies. they could catch up to europe anytime but they instead wasted their energies on something that is wasteful instead... pretty retarded.
pcekeep 1 year ago
@joelcoates That's a load of shit, Firearms such as rocket, muskets, cannon were used in China 300 years before it was known in Europe. Check out China seige weapon and history of Rocket, Missile, Cannon, Musket(Han held cannon), Watermine and Landmine. As well, cheack out Ming dynasty navy. China was 500 years more sopphicated than Europe from Acient age to 1500 AD
wuyunchi 1 year ago
@joelcoates the Europeans stole the invention of guns, and no, Chinese guns were the most advanced until about the 1700s. Then their economy and military went downhill, when China banned the use of guns.
SHUTUPNOOB654 1 year ago
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again, kudos 4 all asians!
srsly this is an asian stereotype
ThePhamine 1 year ago
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again, kudos 4 all asians!
srsly this is an asian stereotype
ThePhamine 1 year ago
again, kudos 4 all asians!
srsly this is an asian stereotype
ThePhamine 1 year ago
again, kudos 4 all asians!
srsly this is an asian stereotype
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ThePhamine 1 year ago
Chinese innovation was halted by western imperialism, now they're back on their feet and rolling again, its only a matter of time when they will have the edge in everything under the sun.
HDsharp 1 year ago
The chinese should have conquered the world when they had the chance to with their advance weapons.
HDsharp 1 year ago
Why they say Sun Za ? Its always been Sun Zhi ...
danpt2000 1 year ago
it is ture
tomatokaka 2 years ago