Umm, the 3D works but... for cross-eyed viewing shouldn't the image for the right eye be on the left side and the one for the left eye be on the right side? The current order works better for parallel viweing.
@kokotacz ... Like it says ... it was my first attempt !!!!! Hand holding two different kinds of camera!!!! Check out my latest effort ... shot using two iPod Nanos ... it's much better. However, I must say, I and lots of other people see this video in 3D with no problem ... the colour intensity etc has nothing to do with the 3D viewing
Awesome. I used the Intel 3D Glasses I still have (amber / blue). The section with your wife is terrible. The cameras are too far apart. The opening and violin part are pretty nice, but you can see in the violin part your setup needs to be more stable.
I think this is brilliant! The only thing I can suggest to improve it is that maybe a longer angle (rather than close up) would put all of the scene in focus so that the observer can choose any part of the scene and find it is in focus. Tricky, I conceed, in a kitchen! I felt that that was the only failure of Avatar. The audience is "forced" to watch one focal plane whereas in real life they can choose to look where they like.
I find the angles that were filmed at are just a tad too far apart. The part where the woman brings stuff towards the camera works good, but it ghosts about a bit. When going crosseyed, the images just barely mismatch. With a bit of tinkering around you'd have a much stabler image!
you may need to do a bit more studying on the topic of stereography because its not quite right on some bits... the effect can be different from person to person but normally the cameras should be positioned 6.5cm apart, measuring from the centre of the lenses. To achieve optimal effects you should be in good lighting and also have something in the foreground of the subject matter with a good depth between the subject and back ground...its a good effort, better then others ive seen
As it says in the notes to this video, I simply hand held a couple of cameras as an experiment. The distance between the lenses, or the 'stereo base', doesn't have to be 6.5cm ... it can actually be anything depending on the effect you're trying to achieve. It's 'not quite right on some bits' because it's impossible to set the zooms to the same setting without linking two similar cameras electronically, and also because the cameras were hand held and not mounted on a slide bar.
I was just giving some sound advice because this was a good first try...and considering you were just holding the cameras the effect is good...6.5cm is the preference industry standard but it does depend on the equipment etc being used. thats why i said to study a bit more on stereography...i wasnt dissing your video, as i said its better then others ive seen and they have tried to do it properly
Jeremy ... you've commented on a video uploaded almost 2 years ago. Please check out my later efforts ... I guess 3D Bike is one of the better efforts. For anyone interested in learning more about all this, including setting the stereo window depth, avoiding window violations, setting the stereo base and such, check out this forum on the web ... 3dphotodotnet
Another vital point to note on the 6.5cm you suggest ... this will only apply if the focal length of the camera lenses is set to replicate human vision ... generally, if you're zoomed in on the subject, the stereo base must be increased to maintain a natural steroscopic effect. You can study it in great depth at 3dphotodotnet ... pun intended ;)
Hi there, could you please explain to us all what you mean? The guys below all seem to have seen the video in 3D ... what do you mean by 'cross-splitting'?
More likely to be the hand held cameras ... the lag cannot be more than 1/30th second. See some of my later attempts ... like the 3D bike video ... would love to see your efforts :)
Sorry Mdiggit ... not quite right ... for 3D videos there are always 2 films shot from different cameras ... I use 2 cameras, put the video side by side in QT Pro, and then upload to YT ... does that help?
a bit difficult to focus on at first, but very good once i got it. i think it had to do with the fact that the cameras were not the same quality, so the framerates were not matching up right.
One tip in making these videos/images is to separate them a little, leaving a little black space in between them. This makes it easier for your eyes to separate and focus in on the middle image.
A good tip ... but when these were uploaded YouTube video sizes were quite restrictive ... and the 3D stuff ends up half size anyway ... so I didn't do that ... but yes, it does help :)
That's because you need to learn the trick of separating your focus distance from the angle of convergence of your eyes ... in everyday life they're connected but to freeview you need to learn to control them independently. When you can do it the middle image will appear very very sharp and clear ... better than the originals even!!
actually i think the reason its blurry for him is because your filming was ever so slightly off, for 2 reasons:
1. on almost all of the videos one picture was a little UNDER the other one, like in the juice pouring video. On the left video you can see the bottom of the glass and on the right you cant. This means that you have to tilt your head a little or else it doesn't work (blurry)
2. your videos are a little laggy, makes the one in the middle look weird when played (also blurry)
Hi there :) Yes, you can read in my notes that I was holding the cameras side by side and trying to keep them aligned as best I could. Other 3D videos on my channel were shot with both cameras mounted on a plate.
Lag cannot affect the 3D effect here as there's only 1 video file ... if lag is a problem, both left and right will pause at the same moment. If you have a slower internet connection, please wait until the whole video has loaded then click the play button :)
i dont mean lag of the video itself, i mean the lag between the video files in this video. during the later violin part, her hand on the right side is moving up and down a little before the left side, im pretty sure thats no the youtube video lagging
Hi again ... ah ha yes ... I was using 1 camera shooting at 15fps and another shooting at 30fps. So I can get to within 1/30th second when syncronising the videos. For me there's no easy way to get it exact ... that would require a dedicated 3D stereo video camera. At the end of the day, it was a first effort using 2 different hand held cameras :)
Have a look at some of my other videos ... the colour balance is due to having used 2 different cameras :( Actually shouldn't make any difference though ... I mean, anaglyph 3D actually uses two different colour filters!
Thanks :) But even in real life you can't focus on both the hands AND the face in a situation like that ... that's one cue that gives us 3D information.
Could u give me some tips where i could make my own but which i can use my 3d glaases please? its kinda urgent ^^ thankx A LOT! id really appreciate ur help!
If you're not getting a very sharp 3d image then you've not mastered free-viewing ... when combined, the resulting 3d image appears much much sharper than the original clips. Making the videos is quite easy when you know what you're doing ... and viewing them is very easy when you can do it!
A good way to block those two residual left and right images is making a V with your fingers and holding it right up to your eyes. Blocking so creates a left and right border so her hand, bread and banana come forward from the frame.
Ok, just got into 3D viewing. NICE first attempt man. There are like times where the effect isn't there. But the bread part, when she reaches out to the screen is amazing. One of the best parts of 3d viewing I've seen
Nice job! Are both cameras similar models? I would suggest putting both cameras on a cheap metal cross piece mounted with turn screws for stability and alignment, since there is some shakiness noticeable from one camera and not the other.
Lol .... noooo ... I'm on holiday and have been using my camera along with one that my daughter brought along. The lenses are at different heights, different frame rates, different zooms lol ... all hand held!
When I get home the plan is to 'obtain' two similar cameras and mount them on a home made steady cam so that I can move around smoothly. So I suppose it's watch this space :) Thanks for the reply .... Nytram1309
I would recommend trying to get identical cameras with serial numbers one digit apart if possible, as I've read that this tends to result in more similar operation and sync.
Umm, the 3D works but... for cross-eyed viewing shouldn't the image for the right eye be on the left side and the one for the left eye be on the right side? The current order works better for parallel viweing.
brunaghot 7 months ago
Cute family.
CaptainPolaris 1 year ago
The guys thats talking with the wife sounds like hes making a porn video. hes like "Oh yeh" "That looks good" "Thank you very much" I mean cmon?
ReverseVideozFTW 1 year ago 2
@ReverseVideozFTW Your comment says more about you than my video ;)
nytram1309 1 year ago 3
@nytram1309 Exactly. Porn is only in the eye of some beholders when there isn't any there. (lol)..
AroundGreenlake 1 year ago
For a first attempt I thought this was really good, I saw the 3D effect easily :)
MainDamo1 1 year ago
Are all of those people are your relatives?
yamigosaya 1 year ago
On crosseyed. The right video is blury, colors are les intensive, black is grey
It realy hurts in brait when watching two so diferent videos by each eye...
Horrible done
kokotacz 1 year ago
@kokotacz ... Like it says ... it was my first attempt !!!!! Hand holding two different kinds of camera!!!! Check out my latest effort ... shot using two iPod Nanos ... it's much better. However, I must say, I and lots of other people see this video in 3D with no problem ... the colour intensity etc has nothing to do with the 3D viewing
nytram1309 1 year ago
the two camer thing threw it off a lil bit... just easier to use one camera and double the video on itself
DwNecrid 1 year ago
I simply crossed my eyes and it looked very nice.
LGreen1995 1 year ago
@LGreen1995 Please see my latest effort, shot using 2 iPod Nanos ... much better result than this!!
nytram1309 1 year ago
your 3d angles were hard to see in cross-eyed. btw nice job
ketul 1 year ago
muy bueno en especial lo del baget
fancyfree94 1 year ago
GRAPE JUICE : )
FUHGI 1 year ago
don't seem to have quite mastered the angles, barely looked 3D to me
Feyd01 1 year ago
Awesome. I used the Intel 3D Glasses I still have (amber / blue). The section with your wife is terrible. The cameras are too far apart. The opening and violin part are pretty nice, but you can see in the violin part your setup needs to be more stable.
adamx20 1 year ago
awesome violin!
bobyknish 1 year ago
We've been covering 3D on video at some Hollywood events... what camera set up did you use...
InfluencePictures 1 year ago
5 STARS for effort.
1 star for result.
solichan 1 year ago
The image was quite different, and they weren't perfectly in-sync, but extra points for effort and the lovely lady playing the violin. =D
lardhat 1 year ago
I think this is brilliant! The only thing I can suggest to improve it is that maybe a longer angle (rather than close up) would put all of the scene in focus so that the observer can choose any part of the scene and find it is in focus. Tricky, I conceed, in a kitchen! I felt that that was the only failure of Avatar. The audience is "forced" to watch one focal plane whereas in real life they can choose to look where they like.
jonshorridge 1 year ago
i dont understand why is that the 3d glasses from the movie theater dont work on youtube videos?
arian50 1 year ago
Because the new 3D films use a polarising projection system ... there is a new laptop from Acer with a 3D screen ... so things ARE happening!
nytram1309 1 year ago
@arian50
Are your glasses gray?
If so they are polarized. And your computer screen is not.
Perhaps in the future they will be.
Or better! They might look different from different angles. So no glasses will be needed.
I've seen it in real life.
lardhat 1 year ago
@arian50
I know, it's really weird!
rosiebumbum 1 year ago
It's off a bit.
maulcs 1 year ago
if i am cho0se a cross-eye, why the 2 pix is REALLY DIfferent ? U R using a different cam ?
HatlabuFarkas 2 years ago
Yes ... please read the notes to the right! :) Martyn
nytram1309 2 years ago
i wanna do the 3D video thing, and i have to get a second (SAME) camera to beat my eyeballs :D
HatlabuFarkas 2 years ago
I find the angles that were filmed at are just a tad too far apart. The part where the woman brings stuff towards the camera works good, but it ghosts about a bit. When going crosseyed, the images just barely mismatch. With a bit of tinkering around you'd have a much stabler image!
MNC117 2 years ago
Please see my latest efforts ... this was my 1st attempt almost 2 years ago!
nytram1309 2 years ago
great work!
junoreactor05 2 years ago
i cant get this one.. i prefer the twin image then cross eyed
momonch 2 years ago
Which viewing option did you have selected?
nytram1309 2 years ago
this video rocks!
I can see it perfect! (always been good at crosseying ^^)
keep it up man!
robertwalters 2 years ago
lol All those people who thought our cross-eyeing abilities were useless! Bet they wish they could cross-eye right now :D lol
Ivyad 2 years ago 2
Came back to enjoy this again.
arttoeg 2 years ago
you may need to do a bit more studying on the topic of stereography because its not quite right on some bits... the effect can be different from person to person but normally the cameras should be positioned 6.5cm apart, measuring from the centre of the lenses. To achieve optimal effects you should be in good lighting and also have something in the foreground of the subject matter with a good depth between the subject and back ground...its a good effort, better then others ive seen
JeremyScottThompson 2 years ago
As it says in the notes to this video, I simply hand held a couple of cameras as an experiment. The distance between the lenses, or the 'stereo base', doesn't have to be 6.5cm ... it can actually be anything depending on the effect you're trying to achieve. It's 'not quite right on some bits' because it's impossible to set the zooms to the same setting without linking two similar cameras electronically, and also because the cameras were hand held and not mounted on a slide bar.
nytram1309 2 years ago
I was just giving some sound advice because this was a good first try...and considering you were just holding the cameras the effect is good...6.5cm is the preference industry standard but it does depend on the equipment etc being used. thats why i said to study a bit more on stereography...i wasnt dissing your video, as i said its better then others ive seen and they have tried to do it properly
JeremyScottThompson 2 years ago
Jeremy ... you've commented on a video uploaded almost 2 years ago. Please check out my later efforts ... I guess 3D Bike is one of the better efforts. For anyone interested in learning more about all this, including setting the stereo window depth, avoiding window violations, setting the stereo base and such, check out this forum on the web ... 3dphotodotnet
nytram1309 2 years ago
Another vital point to note on the 6.5cm you suggest ... this will only apply if the focal length of the camera lenses is set to replicate human vision ... generally, if you're zoomed in on the subject, the stereo base must be increased to maintain a natural steroscopic effect. You can study it in great depth at 3dphotodotnet ... pun intended ;)
nytram1309 2 years ago
I find mild hyperstereo much more interesting then scientifically correct stereoscopy.
chrisjhart221138 2 years ago
cross splitting an image does not make it stereographically 3d. This video is epic fail!
smellynails0 2 years ago
Hi there, could you please explain to us all what you mean? The guys below all seem to have seen the video in 3D ... what do you mean by 'cross-splitting'?
nytram1309 2 years ago
i like the cutting bread part lol
bmxrs359lik 2 years ago
O_O Her hands grabbed me when I was cross eyein'!
seandewar5 2 years ago
Woohoo it's like she's going to poke my eye out with that bread. :D But it's hard to focus on cross-eyed...
FeverSK 2 years ago
Her hand's comin' ter get me! XD
The first one had a weak perspective, but the others look pretty good. :)
wingedsonar 2 years ago
Really good work
chrisjhart221138 2 years ago
the lag on the right side makes it hard to focus for long.
shenzishenzi 2 years ago
More likely to be the hand held cameras ... the lag cannot be more than 1/30th second. See some of my later attempts ... like the 3D bike video ... would love to see your efforts :)
nytram1309 2 years ago
uhm no thanks
overlord717 2 years ago
Hi, how do you upload a video to youtube that has the 3D viewing style?
Hfrimanhfriman 2 years ago
YAH!
HOW!!
I WANT TO KNOW!
islandboy1998 2 years ago
put yt3d:enable=true in the tags on one of your videos
Mdiggit 2 years ago
but how does youtube know where to split the video or how do you upload two videos together?
Hfrimanhfriman 2 years ago
youtube copies the video and pastes it beside it and then trims part of the left video
Mdiggit 2 years ago
Sorry Mdiggit ... not quite right ... for 3D videos there are always 2 films shot from different cameras ... I use 2 cameras, put the video side by side in QT Pro, and then upload to YT ... does that help?
nytram1309 2 years ago
the effect is ruined by the quality of the vid
89pop 2 years ago
Do you mean my camera work? Or are you not watching the HQ version?
nytram1309 2 years ago
holy crap
kevin7744SH 2 years ago
"Thank u very much." haha
uglyguitarman 2 years ago
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stop doing cross eyed. do it too often your eyes can stay like that and you'll go blind.
TheCounterStrikeGod 2 years ago
bullshit... thats the stuff u tell lil children to stop making silly faces ^^
if can teach ur eyes to focus cross-eyed, why shouldnt they be able(learn) to focus normally again, duh?
NeoWargun 2 years ago
its not so hard :D
Zauten 2 years ago
Suckish
minnesota9801 2 years ago 2
it works without the adobe flash player but its blurry and small
socksisters604 2 years ago
i do they crossed eye one and now my eyes feel all weird but it works really good!!!
amusic247grl 2 years ago
a tip for people trying to view this: make your eyes see it blured, then try to cross your eyes to mach up the blurred shapes, then unblur
b0w5er 2 years ago
thanks
sintendo337 2 years ago
i can do all that except unblur. :P
crazypianodude44 2 years ago
Salutations nytram1309!
Have you tried adding the yt3d:enable=true tag to this video?
Yours Sincerely
A Sir Wheatstone Buff
ASirWheatstoneBuff 2 years ago
Hi ... not sure what you mean ... not sure what I should expect ... can you explain please? Thanks Martyn
nytram1309 2 years ago
This doesnt work nearly as well as the pictures do for me, but I also just figured out how to do it today.
suckithardnfast 2 years ago
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MicroShooter 2 years ago
i so confused...
VaughnWhynot 2 years ago
a bit difficult to focus on at first, but very good once i got it. i think it had to do with the fact that the cameras were not the same quality, so the framerates were not matching up right.
BeastingIt 2 years ago
ебать, ты б лучше шлюх заснял через такое гавно, можно было посмотреть, а тут хуетень пиздец, глаза заболели
kapotovez 2 years ago
One tip in making these videos/images is to separate them a little, leaving a little black space in between them. This makes it easier for your eyes to separate and focus in on the middle image.
ydoucare55 2 years ago
A good tip ... but when these were uploaded YouTube video sizes were quite restrictive ... and the 3D stuff ends up half size anyway ... so I didn't do that ... but yes, it does help :)
nytram1309 2 years ago
very low quality, maybe because of the uploading onto youtube, but really good
LongshanksSid 2 years ago
There's a link to the HQ version in the notes to the right :)
nytram1309 2 years ago
how come ots all blurry i tried to focus on the third one really hard and it was still blurry
icelollysugarpop 2 years ago
That's because you need to learn the trick of separating your focus distance from the angle of convergence of your eyes ... in everyday life they're connected but to freeview you need to learn to control them independently. When you can do it the middle image will appear very very sharp and clear ... better than the originals even!!
nytram1309 2 years ago
actually i think the reason its blurry for him is because your filming was ever so slightly off, for 2 reasons:
1. on almost all of the videos one picture was a little UNDER the other one, like in the juice pouring video. On the left video you can see the bottom of the glass and on the right you cant. This means that you have to tilt your head a little or else it doesn't work (blurry)
2. your videos are a little laggy, makes the one in the middle look weird when played (also blurry)
uthlak 2 years ago
Hi there :) Yes, you can read in my notes that I was holding the cameras side by side and trying to keep them aligned as best I could. Other 3D videos on my channel were shot with both cameras mounted on a plate.
Lag cannot affect the 3D effect here as there's only 1 video file ... if lag is a problem, both left and right will pause at the same moment. If you have a slower internet connection, please wait until the whole video has loaded then click the play button :)
nytram1309 2 years ago
i dont mean lag of the video itself, i mean the lag between the video files in this video. during the later violin part, her hand on the right side is moving up and down a little before the left side, im pretty sure thats no the youtube video lagging
uthlak 2 years ago
Hi again ... ah ha yes ... I was using 1 camera shooting at 15fps and another shooting at 30fps. So I can get to within 1/30th second when syncronising the videos. For me there's no easy way to get it exact ... that would require a dedicated 3D stereo video camera. At the end of the day, it was a first effort using 2 different hand held cameras :)
nytram1309 2 years ago
beautiful women!
AoIministrator 2 years ago
0:42
Shes quite good !
NightVision126 3 years ago
the color difference is so great my mind doesn't want to force it to one image.
marktse 3 years ago
Have a look at some of my other videos ... the colour balance is due to having used 2 different cameras :( Actually shouldn't make any difference though ... I mean, anaglyph 3D actually uses two different colour filters!
nytram1309 3 years ago
hey, i liked this.
but, while that lady makes the hand trick, i can't focus both face and hand...
congrats!
glabrezzu 3 years ago
Thanks :) But even in real life you can't focus on both the hands AND the face in a situation like that ... that's one cue that gives us 3D information.
nytram1309 3 years ago
btw, that's a really good work! my best wishes for the future!
glabrezzu 3 years ago
Interesting. You really should be using two identical cameras, though. The disparity makes it hard to maintain a focus point.
Karlfalcon 3 years ago
Yes of course ... I was just away from home on holiday playing with the idea ... see my other videos where I've used 2 similar cameras :)
nytram1309 3 years ago
Could u give me some tips where i could make my own but which i can use my 3d glaases please? its kinda urgent ^^ thankx A LOT! id really appreciate ur help!
BeliOV7 3 years ago
amazing, i didn't know my eyes could do this :)
crockysam 3 years ago
to much hard work for a blurry 3d image
laidt0rest 3 years ago
If you're not getting a very sharp 3d image then you've not mastered free-viewing ... when combined, the resulting 3d image appears much much sharper than the original clips. Making the videos is quite easy when you know what you're doing ... and viewing them is very easy when you can do it!
nytram1309 3 years ago
Fine 3D and a winsome violinist.
Five stars.
PismoBeach 3 years ago
So nice to see the 3D! You're a pioneer! I have great hopes for this.
tuesfri 3 years ago 2
Thanks for the kind comments!!
nytram1309 3 years ago
A good way to block those two residual left and right images is making a V with your fingers and holding it right up to your eyes. Blocking so creates a left and right border so her hand, bread and banana come forward from the frame.
arttoegemann 3 years ago 2
ouch, she poked my eye with the bread!!!!
fundash 3 years ago
Ok, just got into 3D viewing. NICE first attempt man. There are like times where the effect isn't there. But the bread part, when she reaches out to the screen is amazing. One of the best parts of 3d viewing I've seen
Rodmantis 3 years ago
WHAT!?!?
when i try cross my eyes with my finger i see the back ground is blur i cant see it!
PLEASE HELP ME!!!
ANTMcool 3 years ago
i think thats not cross eyed ^^ its parallel ^^
HannYs90 3 years ago
No sorry ... it's definitely cross-view ... the film taken with the camera that was on the right is shown on the left and visa versa
nytram1309 3 years ago
Really good 3D! Parts of it reminded me of that SCTV bit with Count Floyd and the 3D movie.
mackhine 3 years ago
Martyn,
Encouraging and charming!
Art
arttoegemann 3 years ago
Nice job! Are both cameras similar models? I would suggest putting both cameras on a cheap metal cross piece mounted with turn screws for stability and alignment, since there is some shakiness noticeable from one camera and not the other.
themissoulian 3 years ago
Lol .... noooo ... I'm on holiday and have been using my camera along with one that my daughter brought along. The lenses are at different heights, different frame rates, different zooms lol ... all hand held!
When I get home the plan is to 'obtain' two similar cameras and mount them on a home made steady cam so that I can move around smoothly. So I suppose it's watch this space :) Thanks for the reply .... Nytram1309
nytram1309 3 years ago
I would recommend trying to get identical cameras with serial numbers one digit apart if possible, as I've read that this tends to result in more similar operation and sync.
themissoulian 3 years ago