In Latin America we call "Negro or Negrito" all color people and it is not offensive to them, if we add the following then it's offensive "Negro Hijo de Puta or Negro de Mierda". Evra don't play a mens game "BOY".
so negro is racist? evra is a precious idiot. his statement on french tv sezit all. how can u feel offended by negro? dont call rooney ugly,dont call suarez shortie. this isa disgrace.and if ubuy in2it ur a p.c clown.
i found it shocking that Dalglish has shown no sympathy to Evra what so ever. the guy got booed to shit for what? reporting to the FA that he felt he was racially abused. he might have exaggerrated the incident but Suarez and his lawyer said nothing happened and denied everything initially then said it only was said once. if Suarez is completely innocent then why didn't they appeal? Evra actually helped Suarez out by saying that he doesn't think he's a racist.
@SteelCitiesFinest yes he did. Suarez "categorically denied" all charges initially. exaggerating the incident was wrong but so was booing a player for reporting an incident of racial abuse. and so dismissing it as "friendly banter" as dalglish did. anyone who feels as if they were racially abused deserves sympathy of some form but dalglish has been treating it as if it's a non-event and that's wrong.
@SonicJaneStooge No when the accusation first came to light Suarez admitted to using the word 'negro' but argued that it wasn't to be translated in the way Evra had, this Evras allegations he denied as they contradicted Suarez's statemet. Suarez could have denied using the word altogether. And ''exaggerating' the incident could have been the difference in the fa finding Suarez guilty or not. Everyone knew Evra was going to be booed, why it's such a shock to you I don't know.
He grabbed evras arm in referance to his skin..we all seen the footage...the manor lfc have delt with it kind of shocked me.. Im a black lfc fan and i would look like a right twat in a saurez shirt now lets be serious... And kenny calling evra getting booed on sat as banter is a joke.. He got racially abuesd and reported it..what did he do wrong to get booed?! Thats not very nice and doesnt look good. My friends ALWAYS make jokes coz i support lfc who have apparently have this race issue atm
@pillgrimz Try and understand what Suarez admitted to. Evra said that Suarez wasn't allowed to touch or foul him. Suarez said 'why? because youre black?'. Pinching his arm illustrates that Suarez CAN touch him. The rest is politics, FA needing a scapegoat and the press whipping it up into a frenzy. Booing someone you suspect may be a liar is fine His integrity is in question not his race. how can he called me 'ni..er/black/fucking black 5/7/10 times be reliable? Yet all were asserted by Evra
@jayboy918 ohh thanks for the explanation ..now i see i totally diddnt understand the context ..if that is indeed what happend i can see why saurez diddnt say sorry to evra personally .. and i can see why he got that kind of reception.
@pillgrimz That is how I read it from the only video evidence there is. Suarez admission ties in with the video Evras 'he called me N ten times' doesn't. He later changes to he called me fucking black once he has realised Negro does not mean Ni..er in Spanish and later still changes it to blackie (seven times yet the panel decide its five times). Yet overall strangely the panel find him to be reliable. Suarez could have apologised but if you feel someone has lied about you then why would you?
@jayboy918 Suarez admitted using the word. He is guilty at that point onwards. It doesn't matter whether it was used once (as suarez claimed) or "at least ten times" (as evra claimed). The charge is for the word, not the frequency. What made his case worse is when he said it was used in a friendly way which is obviously fake when this moment was a heated argument in the middle of a derby.
All of Suarez's witnesses provided different versions of events so seemed unreliable throughout
@1878redarmy i agree man. i think Suarez should've been punished but i thought 8 games was a tad too much. i would've given a 4/5 game ban. can't believe that liverpool fans stick behind him unconditionally and have absolutely no sympathy for Evra.
@pillgrimz I admit its silly of Suarez even referring to Evras skin colour in jest (a sort of Ali G 'iz it coz i iz black?' moment) and at that point an apology might have sufficed but once Evra went public with his 'he called me N at least ten times' on French TV then why would you apologise to someone lying and trying to get you in a lot of trouble over nothing much at all. There are plenty of racist dickheads about I just don't think Suarez is one of them.
@jayboy918 How was Evra lying to French TV? The claim wasn't the number of times the word was said, it was the fact the word was said.
Suarez would apologise because he referenced a man's skin colour with negative feeling in a heated altercation to which he later got found guilty of. Nothing much at all? Suarez wasn't the one being racially abused so don't think he can judge if it's nothing much.
@jayboy918 ohh thanks for the explanation ..now i see i totally diddnt understand the context ..if that is indeed what happend i can see why saurez diddnt say sorry to evra personally .. and i can see why he got that kind of reception.
Luis said BLACK and that is it, I am uruguayan, son of a Black dad and White mum, and my friends all call me black all the time!, When they insult and when they nice to me, not big deal! who does not like it change the color!! A big thank you to all my Black friends and of course to my pain in the ass White friends, greetings from la Aguada, Montevideo! love and peace and plenty FUTBOL!!!!
@tinguibol Bull shit! That mother fucker is racist and this is not the first time. Luis the mother fucker was doing the same thing to black player in Holland! You can try to defend that mother fucker but at the end of the day Racism has no place in football and I'm white!!!
@ManRealThe The FA had just criticized Blatter and wanted to show him how its done. The FA 'independent' panel was nothing of the sort, one member Denis Smith has close ties to Ferguson. Suarez admitted using the word negro 'Why? because you're black?' in response to Evra saying Suarez was not allowed to touch or foul him (Suarez pinching him 'see I CAN touch you'). Video supports HIS story not Evras he called me Ni..er,black,fucking black 5,7,10 times (consistent reliable evidence my arse)
@ManRealThe Basically I'm saying I believe what I not what a panel of 'non independent' FA appointed men found. If they had acquitted Suarez that would have been calling Evra a liar. 'Actually Sepp youre attitude sucks but yeah this black guy lied his ass off'. A political hand grenade in other words and a far easier route is to find Suarez guilty. Hence all the crap about his testament being unreliable...just a way to allow Evras (more unreliable as he speaks good English) testimony to stand.
@ManRealThe Shouting that Suarez is a motherfucker is quite cheap mate and yeah its precisely the first racial incident regarding Suarez so get the facts straight too he munched someones ear in Holland and that was nothing to do with race. I'm replying to you in reasonable terms here and think you have probably not read one word of the joke of a report or considered the environment around the case. I suggest you do or stop mouthing off about something you blatantly know little about.
If i understand this right the Politically Correct word in England is "Black" however if you add a insult it becomes racist, which sounds about right.
When i use google translation the word "black" translates to "negro" in Spanish.
So it seems to me a English man can only be racist IF he adds a insult to the word Black.
However a Spanish speaker IS racist even without adding a insult.?
@dean0870 You're ignoring context. Words carry no connotation without context.
It doesn't become racist only if you add an insult. In what instance is it okay to say to someone: "Your negro!" or "You are a negro!" or "Negro!" etc. Anyone who says that is clearly meaning it as an insult.
It doesn't matter what word he used; he could have used medical terminology... he verbally abused someone based on their race. That's the definition of racism and I hope he's punished accordingly.
The fact that they are not appealing the ban is proof enough. What he said was racist, maybe not in his country but he wasn't in his country. Deserved the ban.
"when in rome you do as the romans do" think mr suarez should have a think about that saying, you cant come over to england calling people negro and saying you kicked them because they are black. i still cant believe you liverpool fans are defending him?!?!?! with all the evidence in front of your face?!??!?! typical scouse scum
@allohaholla I am a Liverpool Fan since we beat Newcastle 3 - 0 at wembley in 1974 but the way a fair few loud and proud "fans" are reacting to these recent goings on leaves me hiding my LFC scarf when my mates see it.
Fan of Arsenal, Spurs, Man U and even Chelsea think its so so funny right now when they see a black man with a Liverpool scarf!!
If you think I'm gonna defend these w**kers, think again!
Oh dear boys.. Nice bit of fresh racial abuse coming from LFC again this morning. Wonder what the excuses are this time? Interesting Kenneth refused to comment. I think he's said too much already
Why you reds don't appealed in favor him ? , Suarez go away from England !!!! Were the hell did YNWA end up ? it becames YAWA ," you are walking alone" .
Oh, nico, we are all so sorry, we all got it wrong, even reading the cast iron evidence, seeing the video, we still got it wrong, there's me thinking he is a racist, world cup cheating, biting, cheating greasy little bastard
It's incredible.I was reading the report last night and I was so shocked and angered my family was asked me what was wrong.Idk how evra can get away with saying Suarez called him a "nigger" when 1.it was in Spanish and 2.other players would have heard it!
I admit I GUESS he should be taught a lesson in terms of words used on the field but it is still very dodgy by the FA.can't wait to hear Terrys verdict!lmao!12 games?!
@doctorchud1 congratulations - you are the first and biggest fucking idiot i have come across in 2012...................... but you still use corny jokes from 1978
I read the report and it says evra told the referees that Suarez called him the word "nigger."Negro and nigger are two COMPLETELY different words.Also he only said this as a result of evra saying,"don't talk to me south American(something like that)" to which Suarez said,"You are black..."
How is evra not in trouble?!I agree Suarez should be banned 3 games but not 8 ffs
@thesketchadactyl it does seem suarez deserved it - but seeing as evra admits starting the discussion with a line about Suarez's "sisters cunt" then any moron (other than a man u fan obviously) would expect strong retaliation. still cant condone what luis has said though and lfc should be distancing itself from. evra is not in trouble for calling luis south american because suarez never complained about it - but obviously it had racial conotations also which the FA dont care about.
suarez is a cannibal ajax and racist. he doesn't like evra because he is black? liverpool deserves better player, u should get out premier league mr. suarez!
it is not just Evra's word against Suarez's, the investigation has been independent and thorough. clearly Suarez is not a racist but he said racist things, you cant escape that.
Suarez was banned for saying 'because you are black' (when Evra asked why he kicked him) and 'I don't speak to blacks'. He also said 'why, negro, negro, negro' and pinched his skin.
This was found during the inquiry and comes from evidence given not only by Evra but by Dirk Kuyt and Damien Comolli.
Suarez's originally story differed from what he told Kuyt and Comolli after the match. He also changed his evidence to match the video footage looked at during the investigation.
In Latin American we call black people "Negrito" and also to people with dark skin but Luis Suarez works in England and he has to respect the law and rule of that country.Sorry for Luis Suarez, he has to watch his mouth next time.
@UFCritical dude.... first of all, getting banned for saying negro is like getting banned for saying "mate" in Latin America it really has no racial ties. Second Suarez's own grandfather is black, you saying he's racist towards his own grandfather? Finally, your probably never going to understand the difference because of the cultural barrier... and yeah I'm Latin.
@Roxaro1 Thats nonsense how many players from South America, Spain and Eastern europe have played in English football and not been involved in racist abuse. He was not speaking to his team mate or his freind he was arguing with Evra so it was meant as an insult. You are not allowed to use racial slurs in football every player knows that. Even sunday league teams can be banned from competing if their players are involved in racism. Suarez is a scumbag simple as.
@centroyuefachampions Learn english my friend, I'm from Uruguay too, there is no word for the N-word in spanish, if you say "Negro de mierda" that means "shitty black" or "fucking black".
@UFCritical Wow, you really need to see a doctor, mate. I don't teach words to throw at Evra. "Negro" in Rio de la Plata zone means "Pal/Mate/Friend". Your word Mate, Pal or Mate have racist remarks? I don't think so, why our word could be racist?.
Evra was who told in the hearing "I kick you because you are black". Suarez said "It was a normal foul"
You are all wrong. You must read the things before you throw sh*t to the people
@nicoseijas You are a RACIST and you should see a Doctor!
Carry on fighting for the right to abuse people. YOU read the report of the incident.
Its YOUR attitude which will get Liverpool F C a terrible reputation amongst BLACK people, the same people you want to call names to on and off the pitch.
Go to Nazi Germany and call names to oppressed Jews - because you can! Tell the Jews they shouldnt mind being called names because the current leader Hitler says its ok - they wont mind!
@UFCritical You make me laugh, but seriously, you MUST see a psychiatrist and URGENT!. With your comments I can see YOU ARE a RACIST and XENOPHOBIC person who don't want to understand other cultures. Do you like if some British is judged here because they say "Mate" or "Pal"?.
@UFCritical And I must say, if there's anything I felt after LFC's gesture (statement, T-Shirts et al) it was IMMENSE PRIDE, not Disgrace. To stand up against Injustice at any level takes a lot of courage. And they have shown that.
@UFCritical Thanks for validating my point with your outrageous post. This is what most people will do. Let's just call everyone Racist if they don't have the same opinion as you. Really Classy buddy.
And since you used the term 'Negro', I guess that makes you a Racist too :D
@UFCritical You can't expect people to get into the knitty gritty of the verdict. Make no mistake he'll be branded a Racist and chants will pop up everywhere.
Will I as an LFC fan stand by idly when this injustice is being done to one of my team members. NO (although there is not much I can do either.)
That is why I said earlier too, that this is the time to get him off the hook. The question of LFC being punished more can come up later. God knows it's not gonna stop.
@UFCritical LFC has been punished severely. Agreed. But has Suarez got off lightly. No way. I;m talking about the fine. That'll be peanuts to him. But if he loses the appeal, he will be branded a 'Racist for Life.'
We all know how fans operate. He's still being called a cheater by morons for his handball in WC SF and GET THIS, celebrating when Gyan missed the pen. What do you think is gonna happen when the verdict says, "We punish Suarez for using a racial slur BUT he's not a Racist."
Good for Liverpool I was so happy to hear the passion in their response. I think Evra is a little girl for being a tattle tail in the first place just be a man and address him face to face. It's also bull that Evras remarks are going unnoticed and I think everyone is criticizing Suarezs character but I think I says a lot that he even admitted. 8 games is a load of shit in my opinion
Racism should be condemned and quite rightly so, but what shouldn't happen is that people automatically side with the accuser without evidence! It seems the FA has done this and so has a lot of football fans. The question everyone should be asking is was Evra right to have taken offense to what was said? Suarez admitted to saying something that 'could' be taken offense too, obviously he had no choice he said something and Evra took offense to it! It doesn't make Evra right in any way.
Some of you people need to educate yourselves, before making comments based on what you think about a player, what you hear from sensationalist stories, and just plain feelings. Some of these comments are just embarrassing.
@robbieonguitar yh but its just a cultural difference how many times man,,negrito in uruguay is perfectly fine to use,,but in england it is not okay to use it,,evra said himself i dont think he is racist,,so yh evra now knows that suarez didnt mean anythiing by it all and now is probz feeling like a cunt knowing suarez didn't mean anything offensive by it and was just replying to evra becasue evra said to the ref your only booking me because im black,,do your research
@husammo123 The FA are not branding Suarez a racist, they're punishing him for using a derogatory term. Which in this case is 'negrito'. He might not have meant to cause offence, but what does he expect when he says it in a United V Liverpool game? Would it be alright if i called an opponent a 'nigger' and then expect them to be fine with it? Do your research.
@husammo123 But it wasn't in Uruguay. A racial term is still a racial term, no matter where you are. He deserves to be punished. This is a man who got a seven match ban for biting an opposing player in Holland, he gave opposition fans the middle finger a few weeks ago and now he admits to using 'negrito', a racial term towards an opposing player. What other evidence is needed? He's supplied the rope for his own hanging.
Although again like i said, eight matches is somewhat excessive.
@robbieonguitar negrito isnt a bad word; i say it all the time to my latino friends and they dont get upset.... but im sorry but luis wanted to say something racist, "MAYATE" that means nigger, not negrito... this is a huge mistake, and patrice knows it and not to mention afro-latinos are supporting luis right now
Everyone involved seems to agree that he did it. Wheres the problem. Do the crime, do the time.
The argument that its not offensive in Uruguay is irrelevant and a lie. Yes it can be used affectionately in South America, but when its not it is considered racist. In this case Suarez was clearly not being affectionate.
@SuperHunt88 no it not use in south america; negrito isnt a bad word; if you want to insult a black person; you call someone, mayate... thats a bad word... besides if you want talk about a black person.. you refer to them as morenos
@MegaLickspittle although the word in a academic sense is not racist when used in the situation and context suarez is alleged to have used them in it is intended to negatively comment on his skin colour which is racist according to the FA btw i am a liverpool fan and i see a bright side to this Kenny Dalglish's hand will be forced to buy a another top class striker and this will benefit us in the long term
Evra has NEVER complained of racism before. The two prior cases were results of a fan complaining about Finnan and Manchester United staff complaining about the Chelsea groundsman. Nothing to do with Evra himself. So throw that one out of the window. Nobody is saying Suarez is racist either. but his use of the word is clearly incorrect and so, must be punished. Liverpool's statement is also pretty bitter and to also incorrect. The FA? independent panel you mean. .. charge Evra!? Ouch. wow
If the term "negro" is what Suarez used to describe Evra, then it's a case of accuracy and not racism. For the uneducated, I quote the Oxford dictionary definition of Negro "A member of a dark skinned group of peoples originally native to Africa, - south of the Sahara" Perhaps those that provide support to Suarez are fully aware of this and those who criticise Suarez supporters should take note of true definitions and also check out "Racism". Same applies to the uneducated FA. Go read-up!
are these people whom backing Suarez are bunch of idiots or arethey just racist as him? cause i'm wondering. people let's get straight this situation. Saurez admited that he called Evra the term ''Negro'' ok. let's exam how he use the word. was is just normal chat or friendly. no it wasn't it was a vital game and the sitaution was a confrontation, which people hardly use a friendly words. so it's not the word it's the way he used it. and btw to my knowledge in spanish they use Moreno/a for skin.
@xertaqaadka 1st, the FA has not released the logistics of the verdict, so no facts about the process are actually known. But the whole verdict, as stated by LFC, is based on the interpretation of Evra. Seriously ask yourself this question. Since when, has any just verdict been reached on the interpretation of one person. Consider this, Evra has admitted to racially insulting Suarez, again LFC statement, and being abused at the same time. I mean, Jesus Christ, that even make sense.
@jmilord09 i fail to see the logic for what you saying but allow me to elighten you a bit. despite that Luis admitted he said the word Negrito. then agian it's never been the word that hurts it's the contest and in which way he say it. if he say it like '' hola mi negrito amigo'' then that aint racist but as human nature when we having an argument or fight whith someone we try to say the things that hurt the most. and in that case to me luis use that word to hurt Evra so it's racism. see?
@xertaqaadka Negrito is a spanish word, and in spanish it is not a racial slur, it is casual language. No matter what Suarez says, whatever insult he uses with the word, it's hard to PROVE the act as racist, because he would not be using racist language. Unless people try to equate it to an English word, and that's what everyone is doing. But there is no English equivalent, because English speech does not include casual references to race. That's the problem. It's a bad approach
The whole spanish speaking world is laughing/angry at the FA. This is beyond ridicule. Evra insulted Suarez in the worst racist way. Suarez answered without insulting, but asking why was he saying that. But because one word (in Spanish!! The conversation was in spanish!!!!) is similar to an insult in english (but not an insult at all in spanish, and it was never and can never be translated like that), Evra is free and Suarez was banned?!?!?!
and does anyone really believe that the kenny dalglish, the whole team and even glen johnson would stand behind suarez if they believed that he intentionally racially abused evra? this whole smear campaign against suarez is a complete joke, can't remember nani or ronaldo getting so much stick by the media or the managers of the league.
@markus1312 No, but i can remember Rooney getting alot of stick for pathetic things... how can you say the media is biased towards united? everytime fergie opens his mouth he gets a touchline ban while other managers get a small fine, Rooney got a 2 game ban for swearing into a camera, although dalglish, balotelli and richards all swore into a camera.. everytime i united player does something, the FA make an example of them simply because there united players..
rooney shouted "fuck off" directly into a camera and dalglish was caught on camera when he told wenger to piss off when he confronted him. it's not that hard to spot the difference, although i have to say that the ban for rooney was ridiculous.
yeah, everytime. remember the "respect campaign", when mascherano was sent off at OT for asking the ref "what's happening?" when torres got booked after he got hacked down? he also got a three match ban.
@markus1312 He also told Wenger to fuck off which was picked up.. And what about Richards and Balotelli swearing into the camera after the fa cup final?.. and yes it was, it was just another way of making Rooney an example to everyone else, you can say what you you want but at the end of the day rooney is targeted by referee's and the media ALOT! and yer remember the 'against racism campaign' before arseholes like suarez and terry opened their gobs?..
At the end of the day, and be honest, if it was Rooney that was racist to say Glen Johnson, you wudnt hear the fucking end of it.. people would be wanting his fucking head and have him banned for life, but because it was against United theres an excuse for racism, its a disgrace! If a player was racist on the pitch under Shankley, Shankley wudnt come out with a picture of the player on his shirt, he would kick his fucking arse and kick him out the club! There is NO! NO! excuse for racism!
please tell me the facts about this whole evra/suarez case. please tell me. only reciting the united biased media does not mean you have a clue about it. really, i wanna know why your saying suarez is guilty of racial abuse. and "suarez said negro" doesn't count as it's completely out of context. i'm eagerly waiting for your response.
@TheGuyThatSpysOnYou Of course there isn't an excuse for racism. That's obvious. You don't think that LFC's point is a racist act wasn't committed? You ever thought about that one?
Shame on him !!!! while the world is calling for peace u r such a racist. Why ban for only 8 matches. should be 8 years ! U r such a disgrace of a human kind!!!! U dont belong in these human game. Go commit suicide!!!!!!!!
hey grow up and face the facts liverpool fc fans luis suarez used an offensive remark to patrice evra and hes being rightfully punished
other than glen johnson there is no black player in the normal starting line-ups and those shirts at wigan clearly show that liverpool fc is a terrible example to kids
first the club got the other english clubs banned from europe through your fans killing those italians and now there supporting someone who goes down under every challenge
...Mobilising a lynchmob as the media has done for high profile alleged racists is not going to promote racial harmony. What we ought to aspire to is understanding the nuances of other cultures and accepting their differences with an open heart. Driving away those different to you simply because they are different to you will avail you nothing.
To all those who asserts cultural difference (that between Suarez's heritage and England) should not factor because Suarez is not in Uruguay: what do you suppose then? Does the cultures to which foreigners hold true instantly become wrong the moment they step onto British soil? Do you proclaim your culture, your views and ideas superior to theirs? Isn't being able to refer to people by their race without negative connotations, and the fear of perceived negative connotations true racial harmony?
Quoting that Evra didn't think Suarez was racist and in the very next paragraph saying Evra is not of credible character. Which one is it?
That can't be an official statement from the club it's like something thats been written on an internet forum. I can't help but think there are going to be repercussions here the, factual inaccuracies aimed at Evra aren't going to go un noticed and United have been very quiet on this whole thing from start to finish.
Are these two helmets for real? 1. "Evra has a history of making allegations"...er, no he doesn't, check the facts lads...2. Rooney got away with swearing at the cameras at Upton Park?...er, no he didn't, do your research lads. What a pair of fuckin muppets
Muuuuuu----Haaa..aaaaaa.aaaaaa YeeeeeaaaaaaHH.... Get In there. - Look at all the Dippers Whinge'n & Crying - Bla Bla Fkn Bla - Saurez This And Saurez That , Evra Evra Evra - Go Fuuuuuuck Yourself Ye DUUUURTY Scouse Bin Dipping Filth Infested Cunts. Up Ye'r Swiss-HOLES. 8games - END OFF. Now Fk off and Cry into Ye'r Xmas Turkey. Quality Club - 4ever Now Will Be associated with Racism. As If MURDER was'nt Bad Enuf. Dry yourFkn Eyes ye PAINFUL Shower Of CUNTS
Suarez used Evra's race as a way of winding him up. He admitted doing so, and the FA applied the appropriate punishment. That's all there is to it. Liverpool however, are incapable of acting with any maturity, choosing instead to whine like toddlers when the whole world doesn't queue up to tell them how wonderful they are.
@SonicJaneStooge ya, evra is no saint hes done stuff like this before, he accused people of racism before with no evidence and they were proved innocent, evra is a trouble maker , he has no credibility
@ryanleahy1 This statement is completely inaccurate. Are people still believing this myth that Evra has accused anyone of racial abuse before? Unless you are describing another incident other than those involving the chelsea groundsman and Steve Finnan then I suggest you do a bit of research before making such claims.
We don't support racism! For fuck's sake, Suarez has a colour as well! It's about the context and Suarez' intention. Sometimes black people call other black people nigger. That's not racism because they have the same colour. It would be different if I (as a white) say 'nigger' (don't like that word) so I don't do that. No intention to discriminate? No racism! Suarez speaks Spanish, Evra French. Two different languages but the FA seems 100% sure about Suarez' intention to insult? Bullshit
@vandervelde84 These are important circumstances to punish someone for racism. The FA wants to be clear: no racism on the field. Suarez is fucked by the FA to make that point clear without thinking about ALL circumstances.
It's like Liverpool fans are the most self unaware people in the country. You self pity over everything, everyone can see it apart from yourself, it's hardly a shock using the word never to live on sky is gonna give you a ban, get over it, your just embarrassing yourselves.
but isn’t this why black people are still afraid to say anything about obvious racism, because white people still blame victim. as we all know, there is “NO” racism anymore …
Liverpool are just doing what they always do, kicking up a stink when they dont get their own way. God knows what they would be like if one of their players got a ban like Rio or Eric did. The fact that Suarez was found guilty of making a racist remark, yet they defend him and are trying to turn it all back onto Evra, shows a lack of class. This from a self proclaimed 'proper club'. The whole t-shirt thing was embarassing and just shows the lengths they will go to in order to get attention.
@thgm2 no you are. Typical Liverpool, imagine if a united player was racist to say glen johnson, youd all be walking round with justice for glen t shirts, you lot are unbeleiveable but i wouldnt expect anything different.
1) suarez was only found guilty through a biased FA panel who looked intent on bringing charges before the hearing.
2) Evra provoked the situation with a racist remark (yes, he started it). Where is his punishment?
3) Suarez said a word in Spanish that is not racially offensive in his country. For an English panel to take that word and use its meaning in English to find him guilty of racial abuse is pathetic.
4) the tshirt shows that the entire club is behind Suarez. nothing else.
@xSerialVelocity all great points, not even evra thinks suarez is a racist, he said it, they both offended each other using words that describe what they are, they should have been fined equally and if the FA wants to look tough, ok suspend them equally as well and call it a day, if it was clear that suarez just comes out and says u n... this n..that, go ahead fine and ban him all u want, but its not the case here at all
if this allegation was against any other team it would have been thrown out,but as agaisnt mancheater utd the fa cant go upsetting fergie can they, as for evra he is an arsehole . lets see whether that wanker terry gets off with it,bet he does although im hoping that he get a very lengthy ban, not just for this incident but all the other shit he has got up to,
DAGLISH - The Fa would need 2 Control the Crowds - LOL....LOL.... PMSL. Is this CUNT 4REAL or what. Does He realise the Club He's Managing. Hysel? Hillsborough.? Kenny The Comedian. Your Out of Your Depth Son. Its 2011 noty the 70s 80s. You had Your Chance to become a great manager - But shit the Togs and walked out in the 90s when Needed Most. BOTTLER. NewsFlash Kenny - Yur 2 late Son - The EMPIRE is bulit up in MANCHESTER. #FallenGiants #4gottenGhosts Your P-45 Is only around the Corner
@77IAMMYSELF wow talk about someone who can talk constant shit!!! The award for the biggest fuckwit to comment on this vid goes to wait for it............................ 77IAMMYSELF, it's brave of you to admit that you're being yourself btw when you're making yourself look like such a twat!!!
There is also a possibility that Liverpool will face an additional charge, with United considering a complaint about the wording of their rivals’ strongly-worded response, which criticised Evra, to the verdict.
Suarez is a disgrace to the Premier League. plain and simple
Albertopuentes1 2 weeks ago
In Latin America we call "Negro or Negrito" all color people and it is not offensive to them, if we add the following then it's offensive "Negro Hijo de Puta or Negro de Mierda". Evra don't play a mens game "BOY".
TURICKY2008 4 weeks ago
so negro is racist? evra is a precious idiot. his statement on french tv sezit all. how can u feel offended by negro? dont call rooney ugly,dont call suarez shortie. this isa disgrace.and if ubuy in2it ur a p.c clown.
killuminatti666 1 month ago
i found it shocking that Dalglish has shown no sympathy to Evra what so ever. the guy got booed to shit for what? reporting to the FA that he felt he was racially abused. he might have exaggerrated the incident but Suarez and his lawyer said nothing happened and denied everything initially then said it only was said once. if Suarez is completely innocent then why didn't they appeal? Evra actually helped Suarez out by saying that he doesn't think he's a racist.
SonicJaneStooge 1 month ago
@SonicJaneStooge suarez never denied it, get your facts right. ''exaggerating'' the incident is completely wrong.
SteelCitiesFinest 1 month ago
@SteelCitiesFinest yes he did. Suarez "categorically denied" all charges initially. exaggerating the incident was wrong but so was booing a player for reporting an incident of racial abuse. and so dismissing it as "friendly banter" as dalglish did. anyone who feels as if they were racially abused deserves sympathy of some form but dalglish has been treating it as if it's a non-event and that's wrong.
SonicJaneStooge 1 month ago
@SonicJaneStooge No when the accusation first came to light Suarez admitted to using the word 'negro' but argued that it wasn't to be translated in the way Evra had, this Evras allegations he denied as they contradicted Suarez's statemet. Suarez could have denied using the word altogether. And ''exaggerating' the incident could have been the difference in the fa finding Suarez guilty or not. Everyone knew Evra was going to be booed, why it's such a shock to you I don't know.
SteelCitiesFinest 1 month ago
He grabbed evras arm in referance to his skin..we all seen the footage...the manor lfc have delt with it kind of shocked me.. Im a black lfc fan and i would look like a right twat in a saurez shirt now lets be serious... And kenny calling evra getting booed on sat as banter is a joke.. He got racially abuesd and reported it..what did he do wrong to get booed?! Thats not very nice and doesnt look good. My friends ALWAYS make jokes coz i support lfc who have apparently have this race issue atm
pillgrimz 1 month ago
@pillgrimz Try and understand what Suarez admitted to. Evra said that Suarez wasn't allowed to touch or foul him. Suarez said 'why? because youre black?'. Pinching his arm illustrates that Suarez CAN touch him. The rest is politics, FA needing a scapegoat and the press whipping it up into a frenzy. Booing someone you suspect may be a liar is fine His integrity is in question not his race. how can he called me 'ni..er/black/fucking black 5/7/10 times be reliable? Yet all were asserted by Evra
jayboy918 1 month ago
@jayboy918 ohh thanks for the explanation ..now i see i totally diddnt understand the context ..if that is indeed what happend i can see why saurez diddnt say sorry to evra personally .. and i can see why he got that kind of reception.
pillgrimz 1 month ago
@pillgrimz That is how I read it from the only video evidence there is. Suarez admission ties in with the video Evras 'he called me N ten times' doesn't. He later changes to he called me fucking black once he has realised Negro does not mean Ni..er in Spanish and later still changes it to blackie (seven times yet the panel decide its five times). Yet overall strangely the panel find him to be reliable. Suarez could have apologised but if you feel someone has lied about you then why would you?
jayboy918 1 month ago
@jayboy918 Suarez admitted using the word. He is guilty at that point onwards. It doesn't matter whether it was used once (as suarez claimed) or "at least ten times" (as evra claimed). The charge is for the word, not the frequency. What made his case worse is when he said it was used in a friendly way which is obviously fake when this moment was a heated argument in the middle of a derby.
All of Suarez's witnesses provided different versions of events so seemed unreliable throughout
1878redarmy 1 month ago
@1878redarmy i agree man. i think Suarez should've been punished but i thought 8 games was a tad too much. i would've given a 4/5 game ban. can't believe that liverpool fans stick behind him unconditionally and have absolutely no sympathy for Evra.
SonicJaneStooge 3 weeks ago
@pillgrimz I admit its silly of Suarez even referring to Evras skin colour in jest (a sort of Ali G 'iz it coz i iz black?' moment) and at that point an apology might have sufficed but once Evra went public with his 'he called me N at least ten times' on French TV then why would you apologise to someone lying and trying to get you in a lot of trouble over nothing much at all. There are plenty of racist dickheads about I just don't think Suarez is one of them.
jayboy918 1 month ago
@jayboy918 How was Evra lying to French TV? The claim wasn't the number of times the word was said, it was the fact the word was said.
Suarez would apologise because he referenced a man's skin colour with negative feeling in a heated altercation to which he later got found guilty of. Nothing much at all? Suarez wasn't the one being racially abused so don't think he can judge if it's nothing much.
1878redarmy 1 month ago
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@jayboy918 ohh thanks for the explanation ..now i see i totally diddnt understand the context ..if that is indeed what happend i can see why saurez diddnt say sorry to evra personally .. and i can see why he got that kind of reception.
pillgrimz 1 month ago
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im a black scouser, i genuinely cant wait to get out of this city, i feel so ashamed right now at being from liverpool, i never have before.
Liam2621 1 month ago
surprised the bloke could read the statement ha!
MUFCSHERMS 1 month ago
Luis said BLACK and that is it, I am uruguayan, son of a Black dad and White mum, and my friends all call me black all the time!, When they insult and when they nice to me, not big deal! who does not like it change the color!! A big thank you to all my Black friends and of course to my pain in the ass White friends, greetings from la Aguada, Montevideo! love and peace and plenty FUTBOL!!!!
tinguibol 1 month ago
@tinguibol Bull shit! That mother fucker is racist and this is not the first time. Luis the mother fucker was doing the same thing to black player in Holland! You can try to defend that mother fucker but at the end of the day Racism has no place in football and I'm white!!!
ManRealThe 1 month ago
@ManRealThe The FA had just criticized Blatter and wanted to show him how its done. The FA 'independent' panel was nothing of the sort, one member Denis Smith has close ties to Ferguson. Suarez admitted using the word negro 'Why? because you're black?' in response to Evra saying Suarez was not allowed to touch or foul him (Suarez pinching him 'see I CAN touch you'). Video supports HIS story not Evras he called me Ni..er,black,fucking black 5,7,10 times (consistent reliable evidence my arse)
jayboy918 1 month ago
@ManRealThe Basically I'm saying I believe what I not what a panel of 'non independent' FA appointed men found. If they had acquitted Suarez that would have been calling Evra a liar. 'Actually Sepp youre attitude sucks but yeah this black guy lied his ass off'. A political hand grenade in other words and a far easier route is to find Suarez guilty. Hence all the crap about his testament being unreliable...just a way to allow Evras (more unreliable as he speaks good English) testimony to stand.
jayboy918 1 month ago
@ManRealThe Shouting that Suarez is a motherfucker is quite cheap mate and yeah its precisely the first racial incident regarding Suarez so get the facts straight too he munched someones ear in Holland and that was nothing to do with race. I'm replying to you in reasonable terms here and think you have probably not read one word of the joke of a report or considered the environment around the case. I suggest you do or stop mouthing off about something you blatantly know little about.
jayboy918 1 month ago
@ManRealThe read the comment furthest down and work your way up!!!
jayboy918 1 month ago
If i understand this right the Politically Correct word in England is "Black" however if you add a insult it becomes racist, which sounds about right.
When i use google translation the word "black" translates to "negro" in Spanish.
So it seems to me a English man can only be racist IF he adds a insult to the word Black.
However a Spanish speaker IS racist even without adding a insult.?
This to me seems racist in itself
dean0870 2 months ago
@dean0870 You're ignoring context. Words carry no connotation without context.
It doesn't become racist only if you add an insult. In what instance is it okay to say to someone: "Your negro!" or "You are a negro!" or "Negro!" etc. Anyone who says that is clearly meaning it as an insult.
It doesn't matter what word he used; he could have used medical terminology... he verbally abused someone based on their race. That's the definition of racism and I hope he's punished accordingly.
flyinbluedot 2 months ago
@flyinbluedot *within the definition, I should say.
flyinbluedot 2 months ago
When I make a racist remark to one of my colleagues at work, I GOT FIRED! But not when you are a football player...shame on you Luiz and Liverpool!
Kamarik1966 2 months ago
@Kamarik1966
If you knew it to be a racist remark, Shame on you
dean0870 2 months ago
@dean0870 Ooh...are you a clever one, but I hope you know what I mean...
Kamarik1966 2 months ago
The fact that they are not appealing the ban is proof enough. What he said was racist, maybe not in his country but he wasn't in his country. Deserved the ban.
E55Jake 2 months ago
"when in rome you do as the romans do" think mr suarez should have a think about that saying, you cant come over to england calling people negro and saying you kicked them because they are black. i still cant believe you liverpool fans are defending him?!?!?! with all the evidence in front of your face?!??!?! typical scouse scum
allohaholla 2 months ago
@allohaholla I am a Liverpool Fan since we beat Newcastle 3 - 0 at wembley in 1974 but the way a fair few loud and proud "fans" are reacting to these recent goings on leaves me hiding my LFC scarf when my mates see it.
Fan of Arsenal, Spurs, Man U and even Chelsea think its so so funny right now when they see a black man with a Liverpool scarf!!
If you think I'm gonna defend these w**kers, think again!
UFCritical 1 month ago 2
I reckon that Mr.Ferguson has something to with this...
Macebeard 2 months ago
Looks like we have another liar then against LFC? That's where your 'form' is!!
Dannywade007 2 months ago
Oh dear boys.. Nice bit of fresh racial abuse coming from LFC again this morning. Wonder what the excuses are this time? Interesting Kenneth refused to comment. I think he's said too much already
Dannywade007 2 months ago
i bet its top bantz between Suarez and Johnson when he calls him a negro in training
Liam2621 2 months ago
Its political correctness gone mad. We cant even call people sambo, paki lad , or piccaninny anymore.Its an outrage.
Frankfish1000 2 months ago
Why you reds don't appealed in favor him ? , Suarez go away from England !!!! Were the hell did YNWA end up ? it becames YAWA ," you are walking alone" .
hibirapita 2 months ago
He was just calling evra a mate, a pal and a friend, ohhhh, that's settled then
41tim 2 months ago
Oh, nico, we are all so sorry, we all got it wrong, even reading the cast iron evidence, seeing the video, we still got it wrong, there's me thinking he is a racist, world cup cheating, biting, cheating greasy little bastard
41tim 2 months ago
@pudboy123456
It's incredible.I was reading the report last night and I was so shocked and angered my family was asked me what was wrong.Idk how evra can get away with saying Suarez called him a "nigger" when 1.it was in Spanish and 2.other players would have heard it!
I admit I GUESS he should be taught a lesson in terms of words used on the field but it is still very dodgy by the FA.can't wait to hear Terrys verdict!lmao!12 games?!
thesketchadactyl 2 months ago
Good to see two scousers takin time out from robbin houses to make a video. Good job lads.
doctorchud1 2 months ago
@doctorchud1 congratulations - you are the first and biggest fucking idiot i have come across in 2012...................... but you still use corny jokes from 1978
pudboy123456 2 months ago
I read the report and it says evra told the referees that Suarez called him the word "nigger."Negro and nigger are two COMPLETELY different words.Also he only said this as a result of evra saying,"don't talk to me south American(something like that)" to which Suarez said,"You are black..."
How is evra not in trouble?!I agree Suarez should be banned 3 games but not 8 ffs
thesketchadactyl 2 months ago
@thesketchadactyl it does seem suarez deserved it - but seeing as evra admits starting the discussion with a line about Suarez's "sisters cunt" then any moron (other than a man u fan obviously) would expect strong retaliation. still cant condone what luis has said though and lfc should be distancing itself from. evra is not in trouble for calling luis south american because suarez never complained about it - but obviously it had racial conotations also which the FA dont care about.
pudboy123456 2 months ago
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suarez is a cannibal ajax and racist. he doesn't like evra because he is black? liverpool deserves better player, u should get out premier league mr. suarez!
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maumuapaseh 2 months ago
I've read the report looks pretty damning to me!
Liverpool are clutching at straws!
SuperTxxxx 2 months ago
you should read the report
it is not just Evra's word against Suarez's, the investigation has been independent and thorough. clearly Suarez is not a racist but he said racist things, you cant escape that.
read the report, it is very concise
LDNyouKNOWit 2 months ago
Suarez was banned for saying 'because you are black' (when Evra asked why he kicked him) and 'I don't speak to blacks'. He also said 'why, negro, negro, negro' and pinched his skin.
This was found during the inquiry and comes from evidence given not only by Evra but by Dirk Kuyt and Damien Comolli.
Suarez's originally story differed from what he told Kuyt and Comolli after the match. He also changed his evidence to match the video footage looked at during the investigation.
Go read the report.
sanjuro4 2 months ago
In Latin American we call black people "Negrito" and also to people with dark skin but Luis Suarez works in England and he has to respect the law and rule of that country.Sorry for Luis Suarez, he has to watch his mouth next time.
TheFRANZWERNER 2 months ago
@UFCritical dude.... first of all, getting banned for saying negro is like getting banned for saying "mate" in Latin America it really has no racial ties. Second Suarez's own grandfather is black, you saying he's racist towards his own grandfather? Finally, your probably never going to understand the difference because of the cultural barrier... and yeah I'm Latin.
Roxaro1 2 months ago
@Roxaro1 Thats nonsense how many players from South America, Spain and Eastern europe have played in English football and not been involved in racist abuse. He was not speaking to his team mate or his freind he was arguing with Evra so it was meant as an insult. You are not allowed to use racial slurs in football every player knows that. Even sunday league teams can be banned from competing if their players are involved in racism. Suarez is a scumbag simple as.
standupEFC 2 months ago
Screw the FA
samsnake1989 2 months ago
@centroyuefachampions Learn english my friend, I'm from Uruguay too, there is no word for the N-word in spanish, if you say "Negro de mierda" that means "shitty black" or "fucking black".
nicoseijas 2 months ago
@nicoseijas Why are you teaching the Liverpool racist suppprters some more words to throw at Evra, or any black player you hate on?
You think I dont know your racist agenda?
Suarez told a hearing that he kicked Evra because he is black. Be careful Luis Suarez or YOU might be racist, not just your remark!!
Shame on you Liverpool F C!!
UFCritical 2 months ago
@UFCritical Wow, you really need to see a doctor, mate. I don't teach words to throw at Evra. "Negro" in Rio de la Plata zone means "Pal/Mate/Friend". Your word Mate, Pal or Mate have racist remarks? I don't think so, why our word could be racist?.
Evra was who told in the hearing "I kick you because you are black". Suarez said "It was a normal foul"
You are all wrong. You must read the things before you throw sh*t to the people
nicoseijas 2 months ago
@nicoseijas You are a RACIST and you should see a Doctor!
Carry on fighting for the right to abuse people. YOU read the report of the incident.
Its YOUR attitude which will get Liverpool F C a terrible reputation amongst BLACK people, the same people you want to call names to on and off the pitch.
Go to Nazi Germany and call names to oppressed Jews - because you can! Tell the Jews they shouldnt mind being called names because the current leader Hitler says its ok - they wont mind!
UFCritical 2 months ago
@UFCritical You make me laugh, but seriously, you MUST see a psychiatrist and URGENT!. With your comments I can see YOU ARE a RACIST and XENOPHOBIC person who don't want to understand other cultures. Do you like if some British is judged here because they say "Mate" or "Pal"?.
nicoseijas 2 months ago
MOST OF YOU EX-SLAVEMASTER LIVERPOOL SUPPORTERS HAVE NO CLUE ON RACIAL MATTERS.
OUR CLUB HAS TURNED INTO A LAUGHING STOCK.
WE CANT SHOOT STRAIGHT
CANT CONTROL OUR PLAYERS
CANT BEAT13 OUT OF 18 OTHER PREM TEAMS
AND ARE FALLING RAPIDLY DOWN THE PREM WITH THE ALSO RANS....YET AGAIN!
And all you lot care about is having the right to call a black man ANYTHING YOU LIKE.
Put your passion into working out what Dalglish can do to get us making headlines for the CORRECT reasons AND NOT sleazy ones!
UFCritical 2 months ago 2
@UFCritical And I must say, if there's anything I felt after LFC's gesture (statement, T-Shirts et al) it was IMMENSE PRIDE, not Disgrace. To stand up against Injustice at any level takes a lot of courage. And they have shown that.
7Kris07 2 months ago
@7Kris07 Go Lynch some negroes too!
UFCritical 2 months ago
@UFCritical Thanks for validating my point with your outrageous post. This is what most people will do. Let's just call everyone Racist if they don't have the same opinion as you. Really Classy buddy.
And since you used the term 'Negro', I guess that makes you a Racist too :D
7Kris07 2 months ago
@UFCritical You can't expect people to get into the knitty gritty of the verdict. Make no mistake he'll be branded a Racist and chants will pop up everywhere.
Will I as an LFC fan stand by idly when this injustice is being done to one of my team members. NO (although there is not much I can do either.)
That is why I said earlier too, that this is the time to get him off the hook. The question of LFC being punished more can come up later. God knows it's not gonna stop.
But u can have ur opinion.
7Kris07 2 months ago
@UFCritical LFC has been punished severely. Agreed. But has Suarez got off lightly. No way. I;m talking about the fine. That'll be peanuts to him. But if he loses the appeal, he will be branded a 'Racist for Life.'
We all know how fans operate. He's still being called a cheater by morons for his handball in WC SF and GET THIS, celebrating when Gyan missed the pen. What do you think is gonna happen when the verdict says, "We punish Suarez for using a racial slur BUT he's not a Racist."
7Kris07 2 months ago
Good for Liverpool I was so happy to hear the passion in their response. I think Evra is a little girl for being a tattle tail in the first place just be a man and address him face to face. It's also bull that Evras remarks are going unnoticed and I think everyone is criticizing Suarezs character but I think I says a lot that he even admitted. 8 games is a load of shit in my opinion
StalionItalian4 2 months ago
Racism should be condemned and quite rightly so, but what shouldn't happen is that people automatically side with the accuser without evidence! It seems the FA has done this and so has a lot of football fans. The question everyone should be asking is was Evra right to have taken offense to what was said? Suarez admitted to saying something that 'could' be taken offense too, obviously he had no choice he said something and Evra took offense to it! It doesn't make Evra right in any way.
thgm2 2 months ago
Some of you people need to educate yourselves, before making comments based on what you think about a player, what you hear from sensationalist stories, and just plain feelings. Some of these comments are just embarrassing.
jmilord09 2 months ago
Evra accuses Suarez of racial abuse.
Suarez admits using racial word, (albeit not meaning to cause offence but, he still said it).
He deserves to be disciplined in my opinion. I don't agree on the severity though, eight matches is excessive.
robbieonguitar 2 months ago
@robbieonguitar yh but its just a cultural difference how many times man,,negrito in uruguay is perfectly fine to use,,but in england it is not okay to use it,,evra said himself i dont think he is racist,,so yh evra now knows that suarez didnt mean anythiing by it all and now is probz feeling like a cunt knowing suarez didn't mean anything offensive by it and was just replying to evra becasue evra said to the ref your only booking me because im black,,do your research
husammo123 2 months ago
@husammo123 The FA are not branding Suarez a racist, they're punishing him for using a derogatory term. Which in this case is 'negrito'. He might not have meant to cause offence, but what does he expect when he says it in a United V Liverpool game? Would it be alright if i called an opponent a 'nigger' and then expect them to be fine with it? Do your research.
robbieonguitar 2 months ago
@robbieonguitar well if it was in uruguay the oponent who is darker would have a nickname 'negrito' so yh like a said cultural difference
husammo123 2 months ago
@husammo123 But it wasn't in Uruguay. A racial term is still a racial term, no matter where you are. He deserves to be punished. This is a man who got a seven match ban for biting an opposing player in Holland, he gave opposition fans the middle finger a few weeks ago and now he admits to using 'negrito', a racial term towards an opposing player. What other evidence is needed? He's supplied the rope for his own hanging.
Although again like i said, eight matches is somewhat excessive.
robbieonguitar 2 months ago
@robbieonguitar negrito isnt a bad word; i say it all the time to my latino friends and they dont get upset.... but im sorry but luis wanted to say something racist, "MAYATE" that means nigger, not negrito... this is a huge mistake, and patrice knows it and not to mention afro-latinos are supporting luis right now
Kemiztri 2 months ago
You should have thousands more views. This is brilliant.
DoctorWhoVideos2011 2 months ago
Evra accuses Suarez of racist abuse.
Suarez admits using racial word.
FA charge Suarez.
Independent tribunal finds Suarez guilty.
Everyone involved seems to agree that he did it. Wheres the problem. Do the crime, do the time.
The argument that its not offensive in Uruguay is irrelevant and a lie. Yes it can be used affectionately in South America, but when its not it is considered racist. In this case Suarez was clearly not being affectionate.
SuperHunt88 2 months ago
@SuperHunt88 "Negrito is never a racist word. Negro is so different and could be dangerous to say, but not Negrito" - Spanish U-21 Dani Pacheco
So what were you saying about the meaning of Spanish words Rosetta Stone?
jmilord09 2 months ago
@SuperHunt88 no it not use in south america; negrito isnt a bad word; if you want to insult a black person; you call someone, mayate... thats a bad word... besides if you want talk about a black person.. you refer to them as morenos
Kemiztri 2 months ago
@MegaLickspittle although the word in a academic sense is not racist when used in the situation and context suarez is alleged to have used them in it is intended to negatively comment on his skin colour which is racist according to the FA btw i am a liverpool fan and i see a bright side to this Kenny Dalglish's hand will be forced to buy a another top class striker and this will benefit us in the long term
MrIslamification 2 months ago
Evra has NEVER complained of racism before. The two prior cases were results of a fan complaining about Finnan and Manchester United staff complaining about the Chelsea groundsman. Nothing to do with Evra himself. So throw that one out of the window. Nobody is saying Suarez is racist either. but his use of the word is clearly incorrect and so, must be punished. Liverpool's statement is also pretty bitter and to also incorrect. The FA? independent panel you mean. .. charge Evra!? Ouch. wow
Temposama 2 months ago 2
If the term "negro" is what Suarez used to describe Evra, then it's a case of accuracy and not racism. For the uneducated, I quote the Oxford dictionary definition of Negro "A member of a dark skinned group of peoples originally native to Africa, - south of the Sahara" Perhaps those that provide support to Suarez are fully aware of this and those who criticise Suarez supporters should take note of true definitions and also check out "Racism". Same applies to the uneducated FA. Go read-up!
MegaLickspittle 2 months ago
IS LIVERPOOL FOOTBALL CLUB A BIGOTED RACIST DISGRACE?
As a black man I would never say so. But the way our club has reacted over this is truly horrible.
This whole mess can disappear overnight if we just suck it up and take the disgusting punishment to the club!
There are 92 teams in our league but its LIVERPOOL FC involved in this shit..its a disgrace to a once proud club!
We are squabbling for 7th or 8th, we have less goals in us than Bolton Sunderland and Blackburn so far..now this?
WTF
UFCritical 2 months ago
@UFCritical You obviosuly dont support Liverpool, and if you do, you are disillusioned with Luis Suarez becuase you are a black man
GradeACunt 2 months ago
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@xertaqaadka and evra abusing him is ok ya ? and dont say he didnt he admitted to it
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ryanleahy1 2 months ago
are these people whom backing Suarez are bunch of idiots or arethey just racist as him? cause i'm wondering. people let's get straight this situation. Saurez admited that he called Evra the term ''Negro'' ok. let's exam how he use the word. was is just normal chat or friendly. no it wasn't it was a vital game and the sitaution was a confrontation, which people hardly use a friendly words. so it's not the word it's the way he used it. and btw to my knowledge in spanish they use Moreno/a for skin.
xertaqaadka 2 months ago
@xertaqaadka error #1, he didn't use the word negro, he said "negrito"
error #2 Even in the most heated environments, the word "negrito" does not magically change meaning.
error #3 The verdict depends on the interpretation on one man, i.e. Evra
error #4 Evra is alleged to have "Sudaco," which is, oh my goodness, an ACTUAL derogatory term in Spanish.
error #5 The people backing Suarez are not idiots, but are clear minded enough to look at the matter objectively. Your thoughts...
jmilord09 2 months ago
@jmilord09 dude, if that's not racism then i have no idea what racism is?
xertaqaadka 2 months ago
@xertaqaadka 1st, the FA has not released the logistics of the verdict, so no facts about the process are actually known. But the whole verdict, as stated by LFC, is based on the interpretation of Evra. Seriously ask yourself this question. Since when, has any just verdict been reached on the interpretation of one person. Consider this, Evra has admitted to racially insulting Suarez, again LFC statement, and being abused at the same time. I mean, Jesus Christ, that even make sense.
jmilord09 2 months ago
@jmilord09 That DOESN'T* make sense
jmilord09 2 months ago
@jmilord09 i fail to see the logic for what you saying but allow me to elighten you a bit. despite that Luis admitted he said the word Negrito. then agian it's never been the word that hurts it's the contest and in which way he say it. if he say it like '' hola mi negrito amigo'' then that aint racist but as human nature when we having an argument or fight whith someone we try to say the things that hurt the most. and in that case to me luis use that word to hurt Evra so it's racism. see?
xertaqaadka 2 months ago
@xertaqaadka Negrito is a spanish word, and in spanish it is not a racial slur, it is casual language. No matter what Suarez says, whatever insult he uses with the word, it's hard to PROVE the act as racist, because he would not be using racist language. Unless people try to equate it to an English word, and that's what everyone is doing. But there is no English equivalent, because English speech does not include casual references to race. That's the problem. It's a bad approach
jmilord09 2 months ago
@xertaqaadka wtf, so what you're saying is if any everyday word is said and upsets someone on the pitch they are being racist?
thgm2 2 months ago
The whole spanish speaking world is laughing/angry at the FA. This is beyond ridicule. Evra insulted Suarez in the worst racist way. Suarez answered without insulting, but asking why was he saying that. But because one word (in Spanish!! The conversation was in spanish!!!!) is similar to an insult in english (but not an insult at all in spanish, and it was never and can never be translated like that), Evra is free and Suarez was banned?!?!?!
This is in itself incredibly racist.
chms236 2 months ago
and does anyone really believe that the kenny dalglish, the whole team and even glen johnson would stand behind suarez if they believed that he intentionally racially abused evra? this whole smear campaign against suarez is a complete joke, can't remember nani or ronaldo getting so much stick by the media or the managers of the league.
markus1312 2 months ago
@markus1312 No, but i can remember Rooney getting alot of stick for pathetic things... how can you say the media is biased towards united? everytime fergie opens his mouth he gets a touchline ban while other managers get a small fine, Rooney got a 2 game ban for swearing into a camera, although dalglish, balotelli and richards all swore into a camera.. everytime i united player does something, the FA make an example of them simply because there united players..
TheGuyThatSpysOnYou 2 months ago
@TheGuyThatSpysOnYou
rooney shouted "fuck off" directly into a camera and dalglish was caught on camera when he told wenger to piss off when he confronted him. it's not that hard to spot the difference, although i have to say that the ban for rooney was ridiculous.
yeah, everytime. remember the "respect campaign", when mascherano was sent off at OT for asking the ref "what's happening?" when torres got booked after he got hacked down? he also got a three match ban.
markus1312 2 months ago
@markus1312 He also told Wenger to fuck off which was picked up.. And what about Richards and Balotelli swearing into the camera after the fa cup final?.. and yes it was, it was just another way of making Rooney an example to everyone else, you can say what you you want but at the end of the day rooney is targeted by referee's and the media ALOT! and yer remember the 'against racism campaign' before arseholes like suarez and terry opened their gobs?..
TheGuyThatSpysOnYou 2 months ago
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markus1312 2 months ago
Huge posters outside of Old Trafford with stars Patrice Evra and Park-Ji-Sung advertising Nike.
At first I thought it was an ad for Rush Hour 4.
xxPanteraxxx 2 months ago
stupid accent
ProvosAttYourDoor 2 months ago
At the end of the day, and be honest, if it was Rooney that was racist to say Glen Johnson, you wudnt hear the fucking end of it.. people would be wanting his fucking head and have him banned for life, but because it was against United theres an excuse for racism, its a disgrace! If a player was racist on the pitch under Shankley, Shankley wudnt come out with a picture of the player on his shirt, he would kick his fucking arse and kick him out the club! There is NO! NO! excuse for racism!
TheGuyThatSpysOnYou 2 months ago
@TheGuyThatSpysOnYou
please tell me the facts about this whole evra/suarez case. please tell me. only reciting the united biased media does not mean you have a clue about it. really, i wanna know why your saying suarez is guilty of racial abuse. and "suarez said negro" doesn't count as it's completely out of context. i'm eagerly waiting for your response.
markus1312 2 months ago
@TheGuyThatSpysOnYou Of course there isn't an excuse for racism. That's obvious. You don't think that LFC's point is a racist act wasn't committed? You ever thought about that one?
Of course not.
jmilord09 2 months ago
Shame on him !!!! while the world is calling for peace u r such a racist. Why ban for only 8 matches. should be 8 years ! U r such a disgrace of a human kind!!!! U dont belong in these human game. Go commit suicide!!!!!!!!
MamaEnggek 2 months ago
@MamaEnggek - He promises he will but you first.
BNPfuhrer 2 months ago
@BNPfuhrer - after you my dear...... racist go first!
MamaEnggek 2 months ago
@BNPfuhrer - Will do my dear....after you. Racist people like U & him go first. Then only the world can become a peaceful place :-/
MamaEnggek 2 months ago
I'm shocked that people are still believing that Evra has used the "race card" twice in the past.
With Steve Finnan, it was two deaf viewers who claimed they lip-read Finnan using an abusive term towards Evra.
With the Chelsea groundstaff, it was Phelan and Hartis that made the allegation.
Evra has never made any allegation of being racily abused untill the Suarez incident.
People really need to do some research about the other incidents before saying he 'lied in the past.'
EdwarM3 2 months ago
@EdwarM3 - Evra has been involved in 2 previous accusations of racial abuse that were proven to be categorically bollocks.
BNPfuhrer 2 months ago
@BNPfuhrer
True, but people keeps saying that Evra made the allegations when it's not true.
EdwarM3 2 months ago
if he is guilty then he should learn from this and move on..
0zzy07 2 months ago
hey grow up and face the facts liverpool fc fans luis suarez used an offensive remark to patrice evra and hes being rightfully punished
other than glen johnson there is no black player in the normal starting line-ups and those shirts at wigan clearly show that liverpool fc is a terrible example to kids
first the club got the other english clubs banned from europe through your fans killing those italians and now there supporting someone who goes down under every challenge
Glynreaper08 2 months ago
@Glynreaper08 - So Liverpool should have a quota of non-white first team players? Sounds bit racist, what have you got against white players?
BNPfuhrer 2 months ago
...Mobilising a lynchmob as the media has done for high profile alleged racists is not going to promote racial harmony. What we ought to aspire to is understanding the nuances of other cultures and accepting their differences with an open heart. Driving away those different to you simply because they are different to you will avail you nothing.
crazyhuji 2 months ago
To all those who asserts cultural difference (that between Suarez's heritage and England) should not factor because Suarez is not in Uruguay: what do you suppose then? Does the cultures to which foreigners hold true instantly become wrong the moment they step onto British soil? Do you proclaim your culture, your views and ideas superior to theirs? Isn't being able to refer to people by their race without negative connotations, and the fear of perceived negative connotations true racial harmony?
crazyhuji 2 months ago
Spare a thought for Evra, Ferdinand, Welbeck and Smalling.
Being black must be awful.
xxPanteraxxx 2 months ago
Prevaricate' means that somebody gives false and incriminating information.
Ironically, prevaricate is an anagram of Patrice Evra.
xxPanteraxxx 2 months ago
evra is a shitstirring little scumbag,he fits in well at united
in2u2b 2 months ago
Remember Louis, your at LIVERPOOL FC.......so you'll YNWA
IrishWidowMaker 2 months ago
Quoting that Evra didn't think Suarez was racist and in the very next paragraph saying Evra is not of credible character. Which one is it?
That can't be an official statement from the club it's like something thats been written on an internet forum. I can't help but think there are going to be repercussions here the, factual inaccuracies aimed at Evra aren't going to go un noticed and United have been very quiet on this whole thing from start to finish.
BrotherBelcher 2 months ago
Are these two helmets for real? 1. "Evra has a history of making allegations"...er, no he doesn't, check the facts lads...2. Rooney got away with swearing at the cameras at Upton Park?...er, no he didn't, do your research lads. What a pair of fuckin muppets
ArtieFufkin100 2 months ago
Muuuuuu----Haaa..aaaaaa.aaaaaa YeeeeeaaaaaaHH.... Get In there. - Look at all the Dippers Whinge'n & Crying - Bla Bla Fkn Bla - Saurez This And Saurez That , Evra Evra Evra - Go Fuuuuuuck Yourself Ye DUUUURTY Scouse Bin Dipping Filth Infested Cunts. Up Ye'r Swiss-HOLES. 8games - END OFF. Now Fk off and Cry into Ye'r Xmas Turkey. Quality Club - 4ever Now Will Be associated with Racism. As If MURDER was'nt Bad Enuf. Dry yourFkn Eyes ye PAINFUL Shower Of CUNTS
77IAMMYSELF 2 months ago
@77IAMMYSELF
Learn to spell retard. Then maybe everyone can understand what it is your trying to say. besides the shit coming out of your mouth that is. :P
xxPanteraxxx 2 months ago
Suarez used Evra's race as a way of winding him up. He admitted doing so, and the FA applied the appropriate punishment. That's all there is to it. Liverpool however, are incapable of acting with any maturity, choosing instead to whine like toddlers when the whole world doesn't queue up to tell them how wonderful they are.
Zorg2006 2 months ago
@SonicJaneStooge ya, evra is no saint hes done stuff like this before, he accused people of racism before with no evidence and they were proved innocent, evra is a trouble maker , he has no credibility
ryanleahy1 2 months ago
@ryanleahy1 This statement is completely inaccurate. Are people still believing this myth that Evra has accused anyone of racial abuse before? Unless you are describing another incident other than those involving the chelsea groundsman and Steve Finnan then I suggest you do a bit of research before making such claims.
squintyrat 2 months ago
@ryanleahy1 You really shouldn't write about things you have little knowledge of
ArtieFufkin100 2 months ago
No hay pruebas contundentes sobre el problema. Yo no le creo nada a Evra. Suarez es un genio !. Vamos arriba Suarez !.
NHG1612 2 months ago
questioning Patrice Evra's credibility?? didn't Suarez get banned in Holland for BITING someone? both are as thick and dumb as each other imo.
SonicJaneStooge 2 months ago
We don't support racism! For fuck's sake, Suarez has a colour as well! It's about the context and Suarez' intention. Sometimes black people call other black people nigger. That's not racism because they have the same colour. It would be different if I (as a white) say 'nigger' (don't like that word) so I don't do that. No intention to discriminate? No racism! Suarez speaks Spanish, Evra French. Two different languages but the FA seems 100% sure about Suarez' intention to insult? Bullshit
vandervelde84 2 months ago
@vandervelde84 These are important circumstances to punish someone for racism. The FA wants to be clear: no racism on the field. Suarez is fucked by the FA to make that point clear without thinking about ALL circumstances.
vandervelde84 2 months ago
It's like Liverpool fans are the most self unaware people in the country. You self pity over everything, everyone can see it apart from yourself, it's hardly a shock using the word never to live on sky is gonna give you a ban, get over it, your just embarrassing yourselves.
Liam2621 2 months ago
No difference between the FA (Howard Webb) and Man Utd..
vandervelde84 2 months ago
NEWS FLASH Alan hansen and the huffington post.
I just read that alan hansen has had to apologise for remarks he made on the bbc match of the day.He described a black player as being coloured.
What on earth is going on in this country?
Please guys i would like your opinions on all of this.Are we to watch every little thing we say nowadays?How can the term coloured be deemed racist?
Britain is pc crazy and ive had enough of it.Also suarez is not a racist.FA you are a disgrace.
jaysea32 2 months ago
@jaysea32 - Coloured is a superficial physical identifier.
BNPfuhrer 2 months ago
but isn’t this why black people are still afraid to say anything about obvious racism, because white people still blame victim. as we all know, there is “NO” racism anymore …
mramirezdotcom 2 months ago
@mramirezdotcom <--- this guy is speaking the truth
dramatish 2 months ago
Well if Suarez gets an 8 game ban then JT shouldn't be playing till he 50.
Callllummmm 2 months ago
If anyone calls me a paddy I'm gonna tell.
Equilibr1st 2 months ago
@Equilibr1st lol
toot2two 2 months ago
Liverpool are just doing what they always do, kicking up a stink when they dont get their own way. God knows what they would be like if one of their players got a ban like Rio or Eric did. The fact that Suarez was found guilty of making a racist remark, yet they defend him and are trying to turn it all back onto Evra, shows a lack of class. This from a self proclaimed 'proper club'. The whole t-shirt thing was embarassing and just shows the lengths they will go to in order to get attention.
Liam2621 2 months ago
@Liam2621 lol Evra is the classless idiot in all this, you're just to dumb to see it!!!!
thgm2 2 months ago
@thgm2 no you are. Typical Liverpool, imagine if a united player was racist to say glen johnson, youd all be walking round with justice for glen t shirts, you lot are unbeleiveable but i wouldnt expect anything different.
Liam2621 2 months ago
@Liam2621 - Well you do have the freedom to fuckoff rather than hanging around a Liverpool forum attention seeking.
BNPfuhrer 2 months ago
@Liam2621 Glen Johnson doesn't have a history of accusing others!! What are you a Man Utd fan?
thgm2 2 months ago
@Liam2621 <- The opinions of Scum aren’t required.
BNPfuhrer 2 months ago
@BNPfuhrer id log out then if i was you
Liam2621 2 months ago
@Liam2621
1) suarez was only found guilty through a biased FA panel who looked intent on bringing charges before the hearing.
2) Evra provoked the situation with a racist remark (yes, he started it). Where is his punishment?
3) Suarez said a word in Spanish that is not racially offensive in his country. For an English panel to take that word and use its meaning in English to find him guilty of racial abuse is pathetic.
4) the tshirt shows that the entire club is behind Suarez. nothing else.
xSerialVelocity 2 months ago
EXACTLY EVRA SHOULD GET AN 8 MATCH BAN TOO!
BurnRoddy 2 months ago
@xSerialVelocity all great points, not even evra thinks suarez is a racist, he said it, they both offended each other using words that describe what they are, they should have been fined equally and if the FA wants to look tough, ok suspend them equally as well and call it a day, if it was clear that suarez just comes out and says u n... this n..that, go ahead fine and ban him all u want, but its not the case here at all
Panchi1016 2 months ago
if this allegation was against any other team it would have been thrown out,but as agaisnt mancheater utd the fa cant go upsetting fergie can they, as for evra he is an arsehole . lets see whether that wanker terry gets off with it,bet he does although im hoping that he get a very lengthy ban, not just for this incident but all the other shit he has got up to,
footyfan65 2 months ago
DAGLISH - The Fa would need 2 Control the Crowds - LOL....LOL.... PMSL. Is this CUNT 4REAL or what. Does He realise the Club He's Managing. Hysel? Hillsborough.? Kenny The Comedian. Your Out of Your Depth Son. Its 2011 noty the 70s 80s. You had Your Chance to become a great manager - But shit the Togs and walked out in the 90s when Needed Most. BOTTLER. NewsFlash Kenny - Yur 2 late Son - The EMPIRE is bulit up in MANCHESTER. #FallenGiants #4gottenGhosts Your P-45 Is only around the Corner
77IAMMYSELF 2 months ago
@77IAMMYSELF - Sing us your Fergie song?
BNPfuhrer 2 months ago
@77IAMMYSELF wow talk about someone who can talk constant shit!!! The award for the biggest fuckwit to comment on this vid goes to wait for it............................ 77IAMMYSELF, it's brave of you to admit that you're being yourself btw when you're making yourself look like such a twat!!!
thgm2 2 months ago
@77IAMMYSELF wow your English is shocking, then again your a Man u fan so its highly unlikely your from Manchester LMFAO
20cFilmWannabe 2 months ago
@77IAMMYSELF From a Utd fan to another: shut up you utter spastic.
RonaldDonald33 2 months ago
can you back up your allegations that Evra has ''form'' in lying/ thanks.
jamiep7 2 months ago
@jamiep7 - Steve Finnan and Chelsea groundsman Sam Bethell were accused of making racist comments at Evra, no charges were brought against them.
BNPfuhrer 2 months ago
There is also a possibility that Liverpool will face an additional charge, with United considering a complaint about the wording of their rivals’ strongly-worded response, which criticised Evra, to the verdict.
TheRini123 2 months ago
@TheRini123 - And what charge would that be? lol
BNPfuhrer 2 months ago
@BNPfuhrer As per telegraph uk
TheRini123 2 months ago
Welcome to Klanfield
DerrenBrown100 2 months ago