You're missing something very important about this episode;
The scientists never proved a thing.
When Data and Geordi saw the research, they said the same thing Starfleet's scientist did - 'Looks like it makes sense, but there's no proof the effect is cumulative.' The scientists then went on to... Cause a warp core breach? Um... How does that prove the effect builds up over time? That's like saying that cars cause acid rain, and to prove it, they're going to set a nuclear bomb off!
@SLagonia Well, the warp drive was what was causing the damage in the first place. So overloading the warp core just accelerated the process. It'd be more like saying that driving a heavy truck over a bridge everyday was slowly damaging it. and to prove it, you loaded a a truck with 10 other trucks, then drove it over. Bye bye bridge. :)
Yes, but that's the problem - How do you know that the bridge didn't fall because it can't support eleven trucks at once? The ability of that bridge to support an incredible weight has little bearing on its ability to sustain a steady pressure. It's the same with this warp theory - A massive explosion doing millions of times the damage of a single ship passing by can damage space... Ok, but that didn't prove that space is damaged by many warp engines over time.
@SLagonia we have to assume that the data the scientists gathered over the years supported that idea, though. This was just another piece of evidence, Imagine somebody created a bridge (space) and that no travel across it could damage it. Then perform an experiment (11 trucks/warp core breach) and it'll show that that it can, in fact, be damaged.
Yes, but you come across the same problem I just mentioned - It can be damaged, but only when you put the weight of eleven trucks on it (a warp core breach). All this does is back-up what was said earlier - Your research is sound, but there's no proof it's a cumulative effect. You don't ban a single truck from crossing that bridge, or cause it to slow down, just because the bridge can't support eleven at once.
@SLagonia Well, we've seen warp core breaches in Star Trek plenty of times, and they've never torn a rift in space like this one did. It was because of the accumulative effects of the high traffic warp are that it did.
@welovemrp00 Or it was from a totally unrelated plroblem in that region which may have even led to the scientist's findings in the first place.
The point really is that the crew just bought into it completely, and apparently Starfleet did too. They didn't even try to confirm this problem, or reach beyond this area of space for a sample. It really seems more like there was a political discussion rather than a scientific one within Starfleet.
Wait, doesn't Worf say something about Alexander not putting the dishes back into the replicator once? And wasn't there somewhere a kid asking what happens to the waste and someone says they make boots and energy and everything out of it? Voyager maybe? About Spot: I think we see Spot jumping on his console in one of the movies. Not sure though. Worf: I think just knows that Klingons honor everything they agreed on cause, you know, honor. I agree with Warp 5 on this one though.
You're missing something very important about this episode;
The scientists never proved a thing.
When Data and Geordi saw the research, they said the same thing Starfleet's scientist did - 'Looks like it makes sense, but there's no proof the effect is cumulative.' The scientists then went on to... Cause a warp core breach? Um... How does that prove the effect builds up over time? That's like saying that cars cause acid rain, and to prove it, they're going to set a nuclear bomb off!
SLagonia 1 year ago
@SLagonia Well, the warp drive was what was causing the damage in the first place. So overloading the warp core just accelerated the process. It'd be more like saying that driving a heavy truck over a bridge everyday was slowly damaging it. and to prove it, you loaded a a truck with 10 other trucks, then drove it over. Bye bye bridge. :)
welovemrp00 1 year ago
@welovemrp00
Yes, but that's the problem - How do you know that the bridge didn't fall because it can't support eleven trucks at once? The ability of that bridge to support an incredible weight has little bearing on its ability to sustain a steady pressure. It's the same with this warp theory - A massive explosion doing millions of times the damage of a single ship passing by can damage space... Ok, but that didn't prove that space is damaged by many warp engines over time.
SLagonia 1 year ago
@SLagonia we have to assume that the data the scientists gathered over the years supported that idea, though. This was just another piece of evidence, Imagine somebody created a bridge (space) and that no travel across it could damage it. Then perform an experiment (11 trucks/warp core breach) and it'll show that that it can, in fact, be damaged.
welovemrp00 1 year ago
@welovemrp00
Yes, but you come across the same problem I just mentioned - It can be damaged, but only when you put the weight of eleven trucks on it (a warp core breach). All this does is back-up what was said earlier - Your research is sound, but there's no proof it's a cumulative effect. You don't ban a single truck from crossing that bridge, or cause it to slow down, just because the bridge can't support eleven at once.
SLagonia 1 year ago
@SLagonia Well, we've seen warp core breaches in Star Trek plenty of times, and they've never torn a rift in space like this one did. It was because of the accumulative effects of the high traffic warp are that it did.
welovemrp00 1 year ago
@welovemrp00 Or it was from a totally unrelated plroblem in that region which may have even led to the scientist's findings in the first place.
The point really is that the crew just bought into it completely, and apparently Starfleet did too. They didn't even try to confirm this problem, or reach beyond this area of space for a sample. It really seems more like there was a political discussion rather than a scientific one within Starfleet.
SLagonia 1 year ago
Writer #1: We don't have nearly enough story for a full hour.
Writer #2: Just fill up the rest of the episode with Data's cat, people love Data's cat.
Audience: Data's cat is so cute.
theflash182 1 year ago
awesome review, please do more soon, thanks
elcap22 1 year ago
You know, I was just thinking it's been way too long since you did one of these.
aperson22222 1 year ago
They do from time to time mention recycling stuff back into the replicator.
aperson22222 1 year ago
They never seem to use the speed limit after this. They're all shooting off at Warp 9 in no time. I guessed they fixed the thing quickly.
aperson22222 1 year ago
YAY your back!!!!!!!!!!
shedininja001 1 year ago
Wait, doesn't Worf say something about Alexander not putting the dishes back into the replicator once? And wasn't there somewhere a kid asking what happens to the waste and someone says they make boots and energy and everything out of it? Voyager maybe? About Spot: I think we see Spot jumping on his console in one of the movies. Not sure though. Worf: I think just knows that Klingons honor everything they agreed on cause, you know, honor. I agree with Warp 5 on this one though.
damanhl 1 year ago
@damanhl Oh, and I totally gotta check out that geekbattle thing. It seems to be awesome.
damanhl 1 year ago