Amazing performance!..... If one is having problems understanding Bartok, this period of his life is probably not the easiest to listen to. Try Piano Concerto #3, String Quartet 5 or 6, Music for Strings Percussion and Celeste or Concerto for Orchestra......
Yes, who's the pianist's hair dresser and does he know about attaching turbines to hair. Maybe it's Figaro! In that case someone will have to go in disguise somewhere which will probably have to do with some love plot (and I hope some lady doesn't die of consumption in the process, go crazy, commit suicide or jump to her death). That's if it's Figaro and he's still in some Opera!
"How about thanking for the effort of getting this hard-to-find video, convert it to a computer file and put it on Youtube so that people can enjoy, before you make a complaint about the 1 mit cut I chose to make to fit into the time limit of Youtube?"
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder(dalecampbl5). In the dark-ages people had an aversion to the tritone (augmented 4th/diminished 5th), centuries later, it became the cornerstone of heavy metal(music). Throughout history minor 2nd's and augmented 7th's have been deemed dissonant, yet today, jazz music and composers from the 1950's onward have incorporated it into our psyche as consonant. Bartok may not be for every one, but who knows, it might be a tv jingle in the future.......sure hope so:)
To everybody: In april in our Library will take start a great international conference. I hope I^ll speak about that sonata.But in that video the beginning of the 2d part is missing!
how we lay people feel about this music is not really important...but I would give 1 million dollars to hear what bach, mozart, beethoven would say about this music
Now we have crises all over the world, so it^s better to leave 1 million dollars in your pocket.Much better and honest to say: "I personally don^t understand Bartok".
Yes, I try to understand what you mean. I think I have catched it.I had listened this sonata 4 or 5 times, only after that I have understand a specific charm of that music. Really!
Bartok's 6 Rumanian Dances performed by Akiko Suwanai will most definetly change your mined. It is full of passion and a beautiful melody that is not common in most of Bartok's music, which tends to be abstract such as this.
could take months or years. I first heard the bartok violin concerto 2 years ago. I have only started to enjoy it recently. The trick is not to force yourself to listen to it but to listen to it kindly and with an open mind.
my comment from 5 month ago can be reversed...I finally developed a liking for bartok's string quartets and piano concerto and wooden prince...he's so unromantic and romantic at the same time
thanks...i'm quite happy with bartok...he's something different all right...but very cohesive...now Alban Berg that's someone I haven't gotten used to after 8 years of listening.
@violinmusicfan I did the same thing. When I first heard this sonata I'm like why did Bartok write some gibberish notes. But then I forced myself to listen to telling myself I really love this peice even though I hated it to the core from the inside. But now I just LOVE it..
As a Hungarian I think that NOBODY EVER could express the feeling of a people on such a way that Bartok did. I know it's not so kind to say, but I think that nobody's music has such a lot meaning as Bartok's and it doesn't matter for me, how many say, worthless, I'll be loving him forever!!!
Goûter un Havane (les premières fois, c'est dégu...) ou un très grand bordeaux peu flatteur à prime abord (un Pauillac, par exemple), cela demande un apprentissage, quand bien même ce sont des plaisirs !
Alors il faudra vous faire à l'idée qu'on n'écrit plus au XXe siècle comme Mozart ou Beethoven.
Cette page est probablement la plus géniale jamais écrite pour violon et piano.
Patience, vous y viendrez... C'est plein de mélodie et d'harmonie... pour qui sait entendre...
Can you all teach me how to appreciate this piece of music? I want to like this but- with my small brain- I don't seem to derive pleasure out of listening to this. I cannot detect any real melody or tune. To me,it it something like the music in a horror movie.
it usually applys for many modern music; try to listen to its rythem and tempo rather than melody or harmony. Just as in modern art, the concept of beauty has been changed greatly in 20th century.
Usually with Bartok, alot of his music has alot of theory behind it. If you can listen to melodies being inverted, mirrored, and so on. It certainly is an acquired taste, however Bartok's music is quite the contrary to romantic music in its "down to earth" style. Just start surrounding yourself with more 20th century music, or even 21st, even though alot of recent music has reverted back to tonality.
You're reminding me of Charles Ives' famous sneer (I believe the quote comes from something he said angrily to another concert-goer who, like you, had difficulty with modern music): "Ya sissy! When you hear a dissonance like that, take it like a MAN!!"
[smile]
But seriously, Fr3derick, I think it's mostly a question of getting more used to the dissonant harmonies, rather like learning to enjoy an unfamiliar flavor in food. In Bartok, once you get past the dissonance, it's the folk-like
...it's the folk-like dance movement...try to hear, not the craggy and sharp dissonance, but instead, enjoy the abandoned, wild "fiddling" sound...think of it along the same lines as the wild, somewhat uncontrolled, wild spirited dancing of Copland's "Rodeo"--the difference here is that Bartok is HUNGARIAN, and his music is shot through with Gypsy and other ethnic wildness...it doesn't have its hair combed, like Copland's music, and its neck is a little grimy and sweaty. Keep listening, and the
and the dissonances will sound less and less peculiar and begin to sound like they make sense, just as the chord progressions of 19th century music makes sense to you. After you accustom yourself more, you'll find far less harshness to the sound, and instead, hear the spirited joy in it, the fun, the excitement, and you'll begin to hear the melodies, too, which are there--but right now, you're too focused on the seconds and sevenths, so you aren't hearing them. Takes some getting-used-to.
@Fr3derick Yes I felt similar when I first heard any of Bartok's music but then I heard Nina Simone in an interview say "an artist's job is to reflect the times". This twisted chaos reflects it very well for me.
@Fr3derick I don't appreciate this for any sort of tune that is has. I appreciate if for the wild emotions it brings up inside me. It really throws you around.
she's got the right sound for bartok - lyrical yet gritty, clear, immediate. even her pianissimos have a core to them. it's a sound in the context of the sonories of sandor vegh or oistrakh.
Who the hell is talking in the background?
shobarsch 4 months ago
Amazing performance!..... If one is having problems understanding Bartok, this period of his life is probably not the easiest to listen to. Try Piano Concerto #3, String Quartet 5 or 6, Music for Strings Percussion and Celeste or Concerto for Orchestra......
twcal 6 months ago
I love her dress and facial expressions!
p1nkfizz 9 months ago
Truly a beautiful performance. Classical music is a language of its own. No need for words to convey a message to the audience.
TubeFreakification 11 months ago
why doesn't he get his hair to turn the pages for him?
StefanAnderson 1 year ago
NIce sound effects
Bagas 1 year ago
Yes, who's the pianist's hair dresser and does he know about attaching turbines to hair. Maybe it's Figaro! In that case someone will have to go in disguise somewhere which will probably have to do with some love plot (and I hope some lady doesn't die of consumption in the process, go crazy, commit suicide or jump to her death). That's if it's Figaro and he's still in some Opera!
I love Kyung's violin!
oelte 1 year ago
All I can say it's damn! Good job to both!! Well delivered.
sl008m 1 year ago
What is Robert Deniro doing playing the piano?
foshizzlefizzle 1 year ago
What is the NAME of the Pianist.
Kindly let me know friends :)
thanks
sunilviolin11 2 years ago
@sunilviolin11 Mr. Headbanger?
dalecampbl7 1 year ago
One of my favorite violin sonatas. Thanks for sharing!
tempodimarcia 2 years ago 2
Great performance by both of them! But two questions:
1) How about putting the whole movement on (and the first too)? If there's a size limit you can find a not-too-intrusive break in the movement.
2) In this day and age of looming energy crisis, can we really justify NOT attaching little turbines to the pianist's hair?
Nancarrower 2 years ago 2
Not a question but a comment;
"How about thanking for the effort of getting this hard-to-find video, convert it to a computer file and put it on Youtube so that people can enjoy, before you make a complaint about the 1 mit cut I chose to make to fit into the time limit of Youtube?"
twofinedays 2 years ago 4
@twofinedays Whoa, lady.
ashburnhouse 3 weeks ago
@ashburnhouse woteva you mean by that
twofinedays 3 weeks ago
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder(dalecampbl5). In the dark-ages people had an aversion to the tritone (augmented 4th/diminished 5th), centuries later, it became the cornerstone of heavy metal(music). Throughout history minor 2nd's and augmented 7th's have been deemed dissonant, yet today, jazz music and composers from the 1950's onward have incorporated it into our psyche as consonant. Bartok may not be for every one, but who knows, it might be a tv jingle in the future.......sure hope so:)
RaRaLandEQ 3 years ago
To groslucas:You are right, indeed!
To everybody: In april in our Library will take start a great international conference. I hope I^ll speak about that sonata.But in that video the beginning of the 2d part is missing!
Galiah13 3 years ago
I could not put on the whole movement because of the time limit of Youtube (less than 11 mit)
twofinedays 3 years ago
how we lay people feel about this music is not really important...but I would give 1 million dollars to hear what bach, mozart, beethoven would say about this music
dalecampbl5 3 years ago
Now we have crises all over the world, so it^s better to leave 1 million dollars in your pocket.Much better and honest to say: "I personally don^t understand Bartok".
Galiah13 3 years ago
one can say this music is radical or discordant but not beautiful
dalecampbl5 3 years ago
Yes, I try to understand what you mean. I think I have catched it.I had listened this sonata 4 or 5 times, only after that I have understand a specific charm of that music. Really!
Galiah13 3 years ago
i've listened to bartok for a while...hasn't grown. probably not meant to be
dalecampbl5 3 years ago
Bartok's 6 Rumanian Dances performed by Akiko Suwanai will most definetly change your mined. It is full of passion and a beautiful melody that is not common in most of Bartok's music, which tends to be abstract such as this.
rrrjjjyyy 2 years ago
could take months or years. I first heard the bartok violin concerto 2 years ago. I have only started to enjoy it recently. The trick is not to force yourself to listen to it but to listen to it kindly and with an open mind.
violinmusicfan 2 years ago 6
my comment from 5 month ago can be reversed...I finally developed a liking for bartok's string quartets and piano concerto and wooden prince...he's so unromantic and romantic at the same time
dalecampbl5 2 years ago
haha good for you. what a massive transformation from your last comment. I haven't fully appreciated him yet though.
violinmusicfan 2 years ago
thanks...i'm quite happy with bartok...he's something different all right...but very cohesive...now Alban Berg that's someone I haven't gotten used to after 8 years of listening.
dalecampbl5 2 years ago
@violinmusicfan Just as with all art.
Chromometron 2 years ago
@violinmusicfan I did the same thing. When I first heard this sonata I'm like why did Bartok write some gibberish notes. But then I forced myself to listen to telling myself I really love this peice even though I hated it to the core from the inside. But now I just LOVE it..
vlhere 2 years ago
listen more... and even better in the context of the whole sonata
is worth it x 1000000
777cc777 3 years ago
it is beautiful in its extreme violence, like einsturzende neubauten....
beauty does not come only from tonal harmony
groslucas 3 years ago
looks like she ran out of prison and had no other outfit....hehe...
vlhere 3 years ago
if the violinist n the pianist r warin wigs i wonder their wigs must already have been shaken off frm their head .
n if u c it carefully u will c tht its such a
contrast picture when two ppl gone wild cuz of
epilepsy n the note opener who stay calm with dry face
yaieve 3 years ago
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hahah omg his hair !!!!!! its flying like crazy. hate this sonata. i hate bartok. the music has no meaning.
vlhere 3 years ago
LOL welcome to 20th century music.
I'll tell you what what I consider to be music with no meaning... much of Sarasate's music... flash and brilliance and little substance... YMMV.
kwcfan 3 years ago
wow you're talking to a carmen fantasy lover...keep your negative opinions to yourself.
violintviolinist 3 years ago
I am really sorry to hear that..
As a Hungarian I think that NOBODY EVER could express the feeling of a people on such a way that Bartok did. I know it's not so kind to say, but I think that nobody's music has such a lot meaning as Bartok's and it doesn't matter for me, how many say, worthless, I'll be loving him forever!!!
qwertzuiop07 3 years ago 10
Ultra Ultra Ultra Ultra Ultra Ultra Ultra Great..
once really heard, this music has no parallel
777cc777 3 years ago 3
It's a she.
airad2 3 years ago
wups saw my mistake. But pointless? No way.
airad2 3 years ago
Try Bartok Romanian folf arrangements - there tonal and brilliant.
HwangMyungShin 3 years ago
i love the pianist's hair hehe
mauriceivansaraza 3 years ago
the chung family is brilliant.. her brother.. and her sister.. such a blessed family.
theskankiest 3 years ago
She fits Bartok toooooooo much !!
nijnohin 3 years ago
@nijnohin ..listen to her early recording of the Prokofiev 1st concerto....possessed...
MrSeqi 1 year ago
hahaha that's great. anyone know where i can find music for this?
violintviolinist 4 years ago
Goûter un Havane (les premières fois, c'est dégu...) ou un très grand bordeaux peu flatteur à prime abord (un Pauillac, par exemple), cela demande un apprentissage, quand bien même ce sont des plaisirs !
Alors il faudra vous faire à l'idée qu'on n'écrit plus au XXe siècle comme Mozart ou Beethoven.
Cette page est probablement la plus géniale jamais écrite pour violon et piano.
Patience, vous y viendrez... C'est plein de mélodie et d'harmonie... pour qui sait entendre...
pacifik231 4 years ago
Can you all teach me how to appreciate this piece of music? I want to like this but- with my small brain- I don't seem to derive pleasure out of listening to this. I cannot detect any real melody or tune. To me,it it something like the music in a horror movie.
Fr3derick 4 years ago 2
it usually applys for many modern music; try to listen to its rythem and tempo rather than melody or harmony. Just as in modern art, the concept of beauty has been changed greatly in 20th century.
twofinedays 4 years ago
Usually with Bartok, alot of his music has alot of theory behind it. If you can listen to melodies being inverted, mirrored, and so on. It certainly is an acquired taste, however Bartok's music is quite the contrary to romantic music in its "down to earth" style. Just start surrounding yourself with more 20th century music, or even 21st, even though alot of recent music has reverted back to tonality.
adidas01003 4 years ago 2
You're reminding me of Charles Ives' famous sneer (I believe the quote comes from something he said angrily to another concert-goer who, like you, had difficulty with modern music): "Ya sissy! When you hear a dissonance like that, take it like a MAN!!"
[smile]
But seriously, Fr3derick, I think it's mostly a question of getting more used to the dissonant harmonies, rather like learning to enjoy an unfamiliar flavor in food. In Bartok, once you get past the dissonance, it's the folk-like
Drummere 3 years ago
Ok Drummere, thank you for replying.
Fr3derick 3 years ago
...it's the folk-like dance movement...try to hear, not the craggy and sharp dissonance, but instead, enjoy the abandoned, wild "fiddling" sound...think of it along the same lines as the wild, somewhat uncontrolled, wild spirited dancing of Copland's "Rodeo"--the difference here is that Bartok is HUNGARIAN, and his music is shot through with Gypsy and other ethnic wildness...it doesn't have its hair combed, like Copland's music, and its neck is a little grimy and sweaty. Keep listening, and the
Drummere 3 years ago
and the dissonances will sound less and less peculiar and begin to sound like they make sense, just as the chord progressions of 19th century music makes sense to you. After you accustom yourself more, you'll find far less harshness to the sound, and instead, hear the spirited joy in it, the fun, the excitement, and you'll begin to hear the melodies, too, which are there--but right now, you're too focused on the seconds and sevenths, so you aren't hearing them. Takes some getting-used-to.
Drummere 3 years ago
@Fr3derick Yes I felt similar when I first heard any of Bartok's music but then I heard Nina Simone in an interview say "an artist's job is to reflect the times". This twisted chaos reflects it very well for me.
BenQdamnit 1 year ago
@Fr3derick I don't appreciate this for any sort of tune that is has. I appreciate if for the wild emotions it brings up inside me. It really throws you around.
p1nkfizz 9 months ago
She is so talented, I love her!
richardyingren 4 years ago
Her style is perfect for bartok!
OdessaLP 4 years ago 3
very crisp and incisive rendering of this piece...love the pianist's hair...he is a true head banger...rock on!!...
altonoir1 4 years ago
she's got the right sound for bartok - lyrical yet gritty, clear, immediate. even her pianissimos have a core to them. it's a sound in the context of the sonories of sandor vegh or oistrakh.
junglefunny 4 years ago
SO SO GREAT PLAYING FROM CHUNG AND GOLAN CONGRATULATIONS AND PLEASE UPLOAD MORE OF her.
jaqueca69 4 years ago
Absolutely stunning!
chulesq 4 years ago
i never knew that there r such horrible sounding violin pieces lyk this T___T
batuocanhsang 4 years ago
LOL.... grow up and listen to real music man, this is real music ..
kwcfan 4 years ago
bartok is musicians music
scottbos68 4 years ago
She's soooo great!!! Thanks for uploading it!
ritaviolin 4 years ago
I am astounded by her playing.!
kwcfan 4 years ago