Okinawa Shorin-ryu Karate: Multiple Attackers

[LarryRickenbacker]

I consider this to be a useful demo of Shorin Ryu's techniques, albeit in a scripted fashion. I don't expect to see people get injured with crushing blows for the mere sake of showing us Shorin Ryu.

[rawatashwin666]

love the discipline 

[ihateslideshows]

this shit would definately work in a streetfight, definately.

[hunt2070]

I train in this type of Karate, mind you I'm only a Orange Belt, and I must say, no disrespect to any other Karate but I simply think this Karate beats the rest. My Sensai teaches us the old style, he hates what people have done to it now days.

[555hansy]

@hunt2070 mmm so your sensei dont let u guys go to karate competitions and championships ? . i train in goju kai . i just started and hope to take part in the WKF tournament in the future . and also , to have a strong mind , body and spirt ,

[storyacoustic]

I know this is just a promotional video and not a real self-defense demonstration, but the multiple attacker defense at the end relies way too much on the sensei's opponents writhing in pain until he's done with his current attacker. If the attackers are going to wait and take him on one at a time, then it's not really a multiple attackers demonstration.

[shintokukai]

@storyacoustic Good comment. As you say, it is only a promo video and not meant to be taken literally. However, I might mention, when one is struck hard to the groin or throat, it is not unreasonable to expect a degree of pain (and hence, time distraction).

[Vishvisher]

@storyacoustic With all due respect, did you ever fight in a real multiple attacker fight? Do you know that many fights with multiple attackers are derived from the attackers common fear of attacking on by themselves? Many people who gang up to attack someone are too afraid to attack on their own, therefore they might actually wait before they attack by themselves. They don't really want to take up on someone, they want someone else to finish the job and attack when the guy is tired.

[shintokukai]

@Vishvisher If I may weigh in on your comment, as well; Unfortunately, one time many years ago I was attacked by a group of 4 young men in a park nearby my home. It did not look like this, however, as this video is a DEMONSTRATION of technique only. Interestingly, in my single experience what you say actually did occur. The first 3 men waited for someone else to first make a move, the 4th actually did nothing.

[xXKayateXx]

good style i must say,, but the fluidity could be a bit better,, although with so much happening it would be hard to do.

[831883188318]

i wish i could see the undertaker take a wack at this guy :DD

[TheMegaCommentkid]

Wha t s the difference between shorin ryu and shinto ryu?

[CrowdPleeza]

For defending against multiple attackers I'd recommend Paul Vunak's Mass Attack DVD.

[shintokukai]

@CrowdPleeza Yes, Paul Vunak is very good and I respect his abilities.

[dgallegos4201]

great form!

[wowlover1111]

i am training shorin ryu karate in norway its called vkk (vågsbygd karate klubb) and i get trained by my cousin he was norwegian champion in 2008 he have 5th dan black belt. yes i am proud that he is in my family and are that good but there might be someone better i dont care about that i just love shorin ryu karate btw i got 1 month from try to get yellow belt. but nice vid! 5 of 5

[GhostGrind]

I have a question. But first let me say I have a light backround in tae kwon do.

Anyway, I just started taking Shorin Ryu karate a week ago. Why do you kick with your toes? Do you think I can tell my sensai that I would rather kick with the ball of my foot than with my toes. I'm afraid of breaking my toes. Please answer shintokukai.

[shintokukai]

@GhostGrind Ah, kicking with the toes. Indeed it sounds like you are doing an old style. We certainly also kick with the toes. In fact, it is incredibly painful to be on the receiving end of such a kick, especially when delivered to a sensitive area like the groin or the lateral aspect of the thigh. I recommend incorporating it into your repertoire. Think of your whole body as a weapon. Be able to use everything you have available to you: knuckles, finger nails, the ball of the foot ...

[GhostGrind]

@shintokukai Thank you for answering my question.

[ShorinRyuRonin]

@GhostGrind, Kicking with the toes is practiced by few & it was developed by Okinawan masters. It takes tremendous amount of training & hard work to develop them into a weapon. I have seen & felt this numerous times & it is not anything I want to get hit with. They use it to get into your solar plexus & between the ribs to attack the nerves, also it is used to penetrate into the hip flexors, it is extremely painful & devastating technique, I was hit once & took 6 months before walking properly.

[7Dinosaurs]

@GhostGrind Kicking with the toes? I've never learned that in Shorin Ryu. The only time might be the different variation of the roundhouse kick. With the in step or ball of foot, but never the toes. Hmmmm

[NewEnglandBudo]

@7Dinosaurs Its called tiger toe and can be very effective. I accidentally landed a tiger toe to one of my fellow students years ago into his solar plexus. He went straight outward with his body horizontally and crashed to the ground! There are several ways to train the toe. Push up position on a wood floor and bang the 1st toe on the floor, kick a makiwara board lightly with the toe and work up to harder kicks. See the Uechi version here:

youtu(dot)be/pant_xwqHMc

[Specter1957]

@GhostGrind got a surprise for you, TaeKwondo practioners als kick with the toes....you just have to train and condition your toes for a while, depending on how hard you train.

I've seen people able to kick with their toes in as little as a month

[OkinawaT]

Me resulta curiosa esa guardia. ¿Realmente es tan alta en el Karate okinawense? De todas formas las técnicas son realmente buenas

[shintokukai]

@OkinawaT Thank you for your comment and question. The guard displayed here is one of several that we use. Often, we use no standard guard at all. But for demonstration purposes (as this video was created for), we often use this one because of its aesthetic features.

[pof5151]

@OkinawaT en el karate, el tema de la guardia, o kamae esta en discusion, ya que, si bien esta la guardia basica, en la cual los puñós estan mas bajos y separados entre si de lo que se muestra en el video, cuando uno va avanzando, crea su propia guardia, inclusive hay quienes discuten que no es necesaria ya que la defensa sale del simple acto del reflejo. por lo tanto, el kamae puede ser enseñado de distintas formas en cada dojo.

[ARNAKLDO]

I heard that this one is the traditional karate. Is it better than shotokan karate?

I want to start training karate after i'm done with TKD. But i would like to know, which one works better in real life combat.

[shintokukai]

@ARNAKLDO To say which is better I would think to be a highly subjective question. There are many variables -- the qualities and personality of the teacher, the same in regard to the student (you), how many and what the other students are like (assuming a class structure), what is offered and what is not (i.e. weapons, etc.), frequency and intensity of sessions, etc. I recommend that you take a holistic approach to evaluating the schools involved, including but not limited to only the style.

[ARNAKLDO]

@shintokukai

hmm... I'll right. I guess i'll try to do a bit more of research for the cause. Although i must admit that i'm more concerned about the difference in their techniques, and about how reliable they might be either with objects, or without them.

Thank you for replying by the way.

[laugh1ing]

@shintokukai I've practiced for 25 years, and I cannot say which is better. Someone wiser than I said use the one that fits your body the best. After 25 years, I'm still trying to find the answers.

[MrBawou]

@ARNAKLDO If You wan't to start training karate, You'll better start training Shorin Ryu, traditional and first karate shool, not Shotokan wich is just modified Shorin Ryu and Goju Ryu style. But if You want to know wich one works better in real life combat, You should start training running fast ;D Or buy Yourself a gun ;)

[ARNAKLDO]

@MrBawou

ha ha ha thanks i will ^^

[freightshaker007]

@ARNAKLDO i have studied tkd and currently study shorinb ryu. tkd has its good points, but if i had to choose, i would pick karate as it is based more on self defense

[quinteros1963]

@ARNAKLDO The one that best suits you.

[saberman41]

i was just looking at this type of karate because i use2 do karate and right now i do bjj and one of the masters at my dojo is a judo bjj and 3rd degree black belt in this type of karate i cant find much info on this karate y is that

[farorin]

@saberman41 Its not that mainstream, shotokan, goju-ryu, kyokushin etc. are more mainstream. But this is also a very good style.

[NappieD]

Why did you speed up the video?

[shintokukai]

@NappieD This video has not been sped up. Therefore, we think that we will take that as a compliment.  Arigato!

[Mider999]

Very disciplined

[AlexdaGreat96]

Very nice, but the elbow strike at 1:02 does not get a point because he striked across the spine, that is a no strike area, great video though

[IEKUKATAKA]

@AlexdaGreat96 No strike area? Please tell me how one comes to believe there are areas that can't be struck in martial arts.

[WingedMunchies]

@AlexdaGreat96 yeah please care to remember, judging from the video this is not point sparring but actual combat simulation, there is no such thing as a no strike area when it comes to a real fight.

[fgmacaleng]

nice, video, its shows very technical blows, steps and stances, well presented Shorin-Ryu, yakusoku kumite.

[KarateChampTV]

Great Video! Please Come and visit me at I am a Shorin ryu stylist!

[sirchristian12]

I just joined Okinawan Shorin-ryu karate! It's amazing! I learned so much

my first day and practice wut I have been taught everyday. I can't wait to go up belts and eventually reach black belt. I love martial arts so much! I have been teachin myself for a while but it doesn't beat actual formal training. Martial arts is my lifestyle!

[missfali]

I dig it.

[phoenixzion82]

WOW. Really well done!

[faron27]

I learned Shobayashi Shorin Ryu it is very similar only every Bunkai ends with a death blow.

I learned from Dan Williams he incorporated jujitsu and pressure point striking.

It was the best thing I ever did for myself.

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[DehE1337]

I can too, i live in van

[DehE1337]

that was pretty damn cool. I'd like to learn that :)

[murtypury]

waooo exelente

[LilKosk8]

No im shorin ryu karate and these r not original yakusoko kametas they r bunkias so this is not yakusoko kametes cause there r only seven yakusoko kametes

[shintokukai]

"Yakusoku kumite" is a general term referring to any pre-arranged sparring, as shown here. Some Shorin schools (perhaps yours) have certain standardized yakusoku sets, often numbered.

[SpinDoctor91]

i love this video.great coordination too. :D

[brentpieczynski]

Those movements do reveal attention to detail, which is part of standardization, that is stronger here than in Tai Chi.

[Isosyth]

finally a video that shows true Shorin Ryu and not the showy Americanized stuff that is all over youtube.

[lchambers666]

@Isosyth Yeah don't be suckered in by ''experts'' claiming to know everything about Martial Arts as well...

[filmz101]

cool vid

[shintokukai]

This is a segment of a promotional video we filmed a couple of years ago along with the help of students of BCIT, a polytechnic school in our area. The full version of this video can be ordered via our webiste (see video description at side). Comments on this segment are welcome.