Just use a peltier module, as far a i know, this is the best commercially available component for producing power from a temperature difference. A peltier is a real Joule Theif
very good idea, If the plates of a charged capacitor are moved apart the voltage increases because the capacitance decreases but energy stored must stay the same (consevation of energy) and the opposite is true (voltage drops) if the plates are moved closer. I built a type of voltage multiplyer that seems to build a voltage over time without a power supply and the thermal expantion of the dielectric you demonstrated would explane this. good job!
@packrat541 Thanks. I see another related video was posted using a ceramic capacitor. Knowledgemonger's comment on my video March 2011 suggested ceramic, too. watch?v=fldbdQr-c5I That video did not describe a circuit though. I think he just charged it, disconnected, and then attached a meter and changed the temperature.
@packrat541 The energy does NOT stay the same, you put energy into the capacitor by "tearing" (against the attraction of the charged plates) the plates apart.
You can do a lot better with ceramic capacitors. The tempco of a ceramic capacitor can be huge if you get ones with the "high K" materials like X7R. A fairly modest change in temperature will cause a large change in capacitance.
Thanks for sharing your idea. Won't putting a load on this just dissipate the original charge though ? Plus you're continuously losing some to the losses in the dielectric. Isn't you're experiment the same has having two variable capacitors and alternately increasing and decreasing each of them ? It won't generate anything, just move the charge between the two. Or did I miss-understand something ?
@specallez I have not proven energy is transformed from mechanical to electrical with this demonstration. However, I think it is like the work done by moving a wire through a magnetic field. Electrons are moved through the wire. Similarly, charged plates require a force to pull them apart. Work is done. I should do a larger scale model of just pumping capacitor plates close and far, like the MIT demo in my description, as a preliminary experiment. Dielectric, etc. losses, yes. 28% efficient ?
Just use a peltier module, as far a i know, this is the best commercially available component for producing power from a temperature difference. A peltier is a real Joule Theif
izzzzzz6 2 weeks ago
I like your idea, I think you should build it further.
ArcadeGames 5 months ago
very good idea, If the plates of a charged capacitor are moved apart the voltage increases because the capacitance decreases but energy stored must stay the same (consevation of energy) and the opposite is true (voltage drops) if the plates are moved closer. I built a type of voltage multiplyer that seems to build a voltage over time without a power supply and the thermal expantion of the dielectric you demonstrated would explane this. good job!
packrat541 6 months ago
@packrat541 Thanks. I see another related video was posted using a ceramic capacitor. Knowledgemonger's comment on my video March 2011 suggested ceramic, too. watch?v=fldbdQr-c5I That video did not describe a circuit though. I think he just charged it, disconnected, and then attached a meter and changed the temperature.
definitionofis 6 months ago
@packrat541 The energy does NOT stay the same, you put energy into the capacitor by "tearing" (against the attraction of the charged plates) the plates apart.
MrAtheist93 2 months ago
You can do a lot better with ceramic capacitors. The tempco of a ceramic capacitor can be huge if you get ones with the "high K" materials like X7R. A fairly modest change in temperature will cause a large change in capacitance.
knowledgemonger 1 year ago
@knowledgemonger Thank-you. I'll try that. I should get back to this project.
definitionofis 1 year ago
Thanks for sharing your idea. Won't putting a load on this just dissipate the original charge though ? Plus you're continuously losing some to the losses in the dielectric. Isn't you're experiment the same has having two variable capacitors and alternately increasing and decreasing each of them ? It won't generate anything, just move the charge between the two. Or did I miss-understand something ?
specallez 1 year ago
@specallez I have not proven energy is transformed from mechanical to electrical with this demonstration. However, I think it is like the work done by moving a wire through a magnetic field. Electrons are moved through the wire. Similarly, charged plates require a force to pull them apart. Work is done. I should do a larger scale model of just pumping capacitor plates close and far, like the MIT demo in my description, as a preliminary experiment. Dielectric, etc. losses, yes. 28% efficient ?
definitionofis 1 year ago