is CLIMATEGATE an inconvenient truth ???

[PappyStu]

I have a suspicion the reality of this will roll over us like a bulldozer regardless of its factual validity...

[scottklaw]

Well Said. Coffee cup.

[MrCaltec]

I'm not disagreeing with the possibility that climate change is a farce but I'm not convinced that the data was manipulated. Only that anti climate change pundits are claiming it was. And they have not made a case as far as I'm concerned. The only thing the scientists are guilty of is not disclosing the source data for one obscure graph. But the research they did supports their conclusions regardless of weather or not the graph was drawn from tree ring research or temp. data.

[MGillDesign]

MrCaltec

What does it take to understand, that yes, DATA WAS MANIPULATED...

The criminal scientists left the trail of evidence in the emails and admitted those were in fact their emails.

If you still can't believe that this is manipulation, then I have a bridge I want to sell you.

[achampag]

all that being said, i dont necessarily trust the government...they fuck up too much...scientists i view a lil differently however...

you make some good points in the first half of this vid. yikes to the rest.

[achampag]

from the centers for disease control: ""To obtain data on the survival of HIV, laboratory studies have required the use of artificially high concentrations of laboratory-grown virus. Although these unnatural concentrations of HIV can be kept alive for days or even weeks under precisely controlled and limited laboratory conditions, CDC studies have shown that drying of even these high concentrations of HIV reduces the amount of infectious virus by 90 to 99 percent within several hours.""

[achampag]

con't ""Since the HIV concentrations used in laboratory studies are much higher than those actually found in blood or other specimens, drying of HIV-infected human blood or other body fluids reduces the theoretical risk of environmental transmission to that which has been observed - essentially zero. Incorrect interpretations of conclusions drawn from laboratory studies have in some instances caused unnecessary alarm.""

[achampag]

con't ""no one has been identified as infected with HIV due to contact with an environmental surface""

climate change smearing talk plus aids fear mongering...i like to listen to and appreciate my elders...am a lil disappointed right now...

btw, you might google "proof of virginity"

[achampag]

Dr. David J. Acer supposedly gave AIDS to 5 patients. this was before universal precautions, such as gloves and masks. transmission from mucous membrane to mucous membrane IS VERY DIFFERENT than transmission from say, a toilet seat.

[syncro16se]

You can't do anything at all in the future without being a criminal for producing some CO2 (like all living things - they portray us as evil it seems)

E v e r y t h i n g will be taxable under the supervision of the UN WHO IPCC world government. Were fried unless we act now !

Go see Alex Jones clips at Infowars on Youtube !

See the video Fall of the republic and all about Climategate !

[syncro16se]

The idea is to get all the "sheeple" under world government control, this way you can tax everybody for their CO2 emissions. Even if they've falsified the figures people have "bought" the idea of global warming. The IPCC has lied and produced a warming curve with the medieval warming period erased.. It was a lot warmer then than it is now.. Thousands of scientists have been silenced. They know and say that the solar spots is the only thing that can account for the eledged 0.6 deg C.

[BrotherBearAZ]

Even if we as the human race are causing climate change, using their own statistics we can't stop it fast enough by cutting emissions. All of these scientist should be coming up with something more innovative than treaties and stop wasting time sitting around talking if they really believe we must cool the atmosphere for the good of mankind. But they are not, this why I have doubts.

[GreatGig1]

A lot of the research I have seen about CO2 is that CO2 does NOT create warming...so...I look to the sun to see what "cycle" the sun is in. :-) Do we need to stop the pollutiion? Do we need more sustainable energy?? YES!! But to do it through the fear of "global warming" to steal more from the people angers me! If "they" would just release the truth of things, we the people could help find solutions! :-) But "they" like to have a "boogie man"!

Good Morning, Rodney! :-)

[PoPoNellie]

Agreed. The ends do not justify the means. The government agenda is what is important and that means becoming mightier than corporate entities by any means necessary.

[ericsurf6]

I'm just sitting here eating some delicious Isralie chocolate.

[helterskelter1]

Is that different from swiss?

[JamJells]

Hate to wake up at odd hours. Working in retail offers many different hours per week and gives one many options to wake up at any given time without a real cause. Sure we are having some impact on the planet. But to the point of melting and raising the water levels over the next 75 years by ten feet. That kind of statement doesn't bring me to the table for talk unless there is solid facts to prove that whats coming. Pollution is a danger of some sort although.

[periurban]

The truth will out.

[syntek67]

i have never heard the thing about the dentist, but the most plausible cause of propagation i see is badly (if at all) sterilized anaesthesia needles.