I didn't know anything about Mormons before a couple of days ago. From what little I know now, the mormonism fantasy is worse than Islam by a long shot and makes christianity look realistic. To christians- there is no god, get over it. To muslims - there is no Allah, get over it. To mormons- you are not a god, gods don't exist, Joseph Smith can suck it, and get over your narcissistic selves
Mormons are some of the nicest people. Psalms 90:2 "..., or ever thou hadst formed the earth and the world, even from everlasting to everlasting, thou art God." According to this verse, how long HAS God been God? Isaiah 44:6 "I am the first, and I am the last, and beside me there is no God." Isaiah 44:8 "Is there a God beside Me? Yea, there is no God, I know not any." Finally, John 4:24 "God is spirit, and has not flesh and bones." Good Every goo Mormon should pray about this.
@celticwomanfan01 hahaah.. Paul was a human being not a devine figure you idiot... you are missing the dam point... WOW haha... you dont need a dam degree, you just need common sence to know that those letters were not ment to be in the bible in the first place.. those were casual letters. Gospels and letters and John's revalations, these are not gods word you dum dum.. lol Christians dont even know who wrote these Gospels. No disrespect, but you dont even know what the true Bible is.
@player12534 Paul was a human being. Jesus was also fully human (and divine). The apostles were all human. So were Jesus' disciples. So what is your point? Does someone being "human" discredit the historical accounts which they might have left us? Does being human color the theology..? The whole Bible was written by HUMANS and as many would argue, divinely inspired. I don't see how you discredit Paul by saying he was human (cough cough here would be a good place to have a degree pal...)
@player12534 And actually...the letters were decided upon for over 150 years (as were ALL OF THE BOOKS TO MAKE IT IN THE NEW TESTAMENT CANON) and debated by the early Christians...Paul's letters as we have them in the NT were never rejected...they were actually meant to be in the canon because all of the early Christians recognized Paul to be the apostle that he was....furthermore, though we can't give an exact author to all the writings, that does not take away from the teachings in them.
I'm an active Mormon and I actually enjoyed this summary! As far as I could tell it all lines up with what my beliefs. Outsiders may scoff at how outlandish some of teachings seem, but the Jews crucified Christ because He claimed to be the Father (blasphemy in that time!). I would also like to point out that VERY few of these concepts are EVER taught in congregations today. We're not hiding anything; there are simply more important things to focus on, like the Atonement and teachings of Christ.
@celticwomanfan01 First of all the the concept of Trinity wasnt originated from Jesus.. there were bunch of Bishops and priest, who had no idea how to make jesus a godly figure, came up with this term. No where in the Gospels did Jesus mention anything about the Trinity. Second, you can call it what ever floats your boat but in reality there is not such thing as Trinity being one God ... sprit is not God its a Sprit, which also means the blessing of god not a person. its an entity.
@player12534 Umm....come back to me when you earn a degree in Theology and Religious Studies like I have. If you had the proper education, you would know quite well that the Trinity, reference to the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are actually mentioned in many of Paul's letters...you know, those letters ALSO considered Scripture, in the New Testament, AND precede the gospels. Yes. That's right. Paul wrote before the gospel accounts, closer to Jesus' time, affirming the Trinity. Nice try though.
Also, you can't be Christian and deny the Trinity...the understanding of the Trinity comes from the Gospel accounts themselves (also Paul) and the EARLIEST Christians understood that the Father was distinct from the Son and they distinct from the Holy Spirit. It took until 325 CE at the Council of Nicea to affirm that the Father and Son are of like essence, one "ousia," and that the Father "begetts" the Son. The H.S. is a hypostases too and one cannot be Christian and deny the Trinity.
@celticwomanfan01 Be careful accusing Latter-day Saints of ignorance about Christ's original Church-- it's a very important part of LDS theology. I've read much of the creeds that were established by apostate councils during the first 400 years of Christianity, and they confirm to me my knowledge that the original Church and gospel of Jesus Christ was no longer on Earth. The Trinity as you describe it is a man-made teaching that represents the twisting of truth that happened during that time.
@supernovamike Apostate councils confirmed that the original Church an gospel of Jesus were no longer on earth? Ok...there is a reason all of those groups are largely in the ash heap of history. Orthodox Christian teaching, from the time of Jesus, that teaches the Trinitarian understanding of God, that is the most prominent and surviving form of Christianity. Do you ever wonder why most of the early Church heretics and schismatic groups died away...?
@supernovamike Also...there is a "Kingdom" of sorts that is "not from this world" (You get that from the Gospel of John, btw) but that did not mean that there was no earthly Church, ministry, or 'gospel.' In no way then is the understanding of the Trinity (again, present in the New Testament writings in plenty of places) "represents the twisting of the truth that happened during that time." Tell me, tell me what "truth" you really think happened and I'll gladly rebut you with facts and history.
@celticwomanfan01 You're citing majority opinion as evidence for divine truths? I don't understand that. According to the majority of human beings alive today, Jesus Christ wasn't even the Son of God as he claimed, so... should we go with that because that's what the majority says? No, the church of God always has been and always will be a minority. That's what the scriptures teach. (Matthew 7:13-14, for instance)
@celticwomanfan01 It is true that the Trinity has some (only some) scriptures to support it, but as player12534 said and you yourself confirmed, it is founded primarily in the councils that were held long after Christ. Many Christian groups, believing that scripture takes precedence over council decisions, have rejected the Trinity and were suppressed by the apostate church for doing so. With all respect, I think your calling them unChristian is, frankly, inappropriate, and a symptom of bigotry.
@supernovamike No. The understanding and language of the hypostases (persons) of the Trinity were there in the New Testament writings (do you want specific passages, haha) from the beginning. Keep in mind that was as early as 20-25 years after Jesus' death (for Paul's earliest letters) and shortly thereafter for the earliest gospel (Mark's written in about 70 CE) Scripture here actually agrees with the council's conclusions...
@celticwomanfan01 About the Trinity, I've read many times the passages that say "I and my Father are one" or "which is One God," etc. But I've also read everything else.
The Trinity is founded primarily not in scripture but in councils. I enjoyed the Athanasian Creed, which puts the nature of the Godhead as something that is "incomprehensible." It's an effective security blanket, but unfortunately that idea has no scriptural support either... in fact it's opposed to what I find in the Bible.
@supernovamike Furthermore, you cannot be Christian and deny the Trinity...you just cannot be. Heresies and schismatics have a tendency to not be popular and survive throughout the centuries...the case can and should be made that the very very Scriptural understanding of the Trinity has been time tested to be the most orthodox Christian belief as evident by the overwhelming majority of Christians holding true to the Trinitarian doctrine. So yes, you Mormons, God bless you, are not Christians.
@celticwomanfan01 Have you ever even considered the possibility that one of those churches that you call "heretic and schismatic" was actually the right one? Is there any reason why it could not be? The church that you claim to be inspired is guilty of violently suppressing other groups that did not accept their creeds. Is that Christ's way of spreading His church--by crushing all other opinions, destroying opposing religious texts, and slaughtering infidels? No, that's the Roman's way.
@celticwomanfan01 You say that "Heresies and schismatics have a tendency to not be popular." Is that so? I hear atheism is very popular nowadays. Islam has been around for awhile, and it's doing fine. I don't think you understand the power of the devil. The truth is NEVER popular (they killed Christ, remember?), and according to history, the only thing that never seems to last very long is the truth. I mean...how long was Moses gone before the Israelites started worshipping a statue? (Exodus 32)
God "Let us make man in our image and after our likness"..'I and my Father are One"...'The only begotten Son". An eternal, loving relationship of eternal Father, eternal Son and eternal Spirit IS God. Who did God love before Creation?. God is three Persons in a unchanging, eternal and Organized relationship.Creation of man and women to have a Relationship because God Is In a Relationship. Father and Son had loved each other before Creation. Son does the Fathers will.
@celticwomanfan01 NO THEY DONT... CHRISTIANS DONT BELIEVE IN ONE GOD ONLY.. CHRISTIAN FAITH IS BASED UPON THE CONCEPT OF TRINITY... FATHER SON AND HOLYSPRIT... NOW THEY MIGHT SAY THAT ITS ALL ONE BUT COME ON WHO ARE WE KIDDING... YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT THREE DIFFERENT ENTITIES... WHEN JESUS PBUH SAID THAT THAT I HAVE MANY THINGS TO SAY ON TO YOU . AND THEN ACCORDING TO CHRISTIANS HE SAID THAT THE HOLY SPIRIT IS MENTIONED. BUT IF THE THE SON AND THE HOLY SPRIT IS THE SAME. WHY DIDNT HE SAY I WILL
@player12534 and also @supernovamike You are both wrong when it comes to what actual Christians believe in. The Trinity is not a concept of three different gods, there is ONE God and the Trinity is composed of three hypostases (literally, "persons") - But of course you wouldn't understand that since you have no historical knowledge of the Early Church or the first 400 years of Christianity. The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit of of the same essence "Ousia" and are one God. Three hypostases, 1 God.
@celticwomanfan01 If we simply put away the false idea of the Triune God, we already see a system that is not monotheistic. Yet the LDS Church is not the only Christian church to deny the Trinity.
In the end, we know there is still only ONE God in charge.
@celticwomanfan01 I repeat that, like you, we believe that our Heavenly Father created the entire universe, and is not just the "God of this earth." I also repeat that all discussion of His "former life" and all that goes with it is purely speculation.
@celticwomanfan01 Don't trust everything this video tells you. Their intent is to discredit "mormonism," and, like everyone else, they do so by decontextualizing and twisting the truth, thereby creating a ridiculous-looking straw-man caricature.
Sorry. Mormons are polytheists. Just because you affirm ONE God (i.e. the 'Father;) here on Earth, because Mormons also affirm other gods on other planets, they are essentially and undoubtedly polytheists...i.e. NOT Christian. Sorry guys.
@celticwomanfan01 That would be a fair point, but you're mistaken. There's no current revelation stating that there are "other gods on other planets"; we believe God to be the One who created all of the known universe. Any talk about other gods who may rule over other universes (not just other planets) is speculative and is not regarded as fact, and certainly not as doctrine. Critics will use such ideas to caricature LDS beliefs, but they do so falsely -- and usually maliciously.
@supernovamike If what the gentlemen in the video says is true "doctrine" of LDS belief, the fact that Mormons support the idea that the "One" God of this earth had a wife, who was essentially a goddess from another planet, that STILL affirms a polytheistic view, i.e. not Christian in any sense. Not to mention the fact that the "One" God was first human, but then became God...and answered to the God on his planet (when he was human), that's polytheism and I am taking it directly from this vid.
Ridiculous rituals (secret handshake? are you five?) do NOT make you worthy of being a "god". Mormons need to correlate their beliefs to LOGIC before they expect any reasonable person to believe it. I'm so glad I'm agnostic.
@Cyarkaios That's what you would say to anyone of any religion, is it not? Religion isn't always logical. It follows a more reliable method of establishing truth by going straight to the Creator for it. Trying to figure everything out with a mortal brain will just confuse people; that's pretty obvious if we just look around.
@supernovamike No actually, I used to be christian, but I realized that you have to have faith in god, not in humans. Humans develop these absurd belief systems and say that you MUST believe it otherwise you will go to "hell". A truly loving god would not be so selfish and say "here is a present for you" and you don't respond in a finite span of time so he stabs you in the back and tells you you deserve to die. I have NO faith whatsoever in selfish arrogant humans.
@Cyarkaios If you were to learn more about what Latter-day Saints really believe (meaning you have to ask them), you might be surprised and even pleased by what you see. We do not condemn people to any "hell," but do believe in a loving God who gives everybody a fair chance to make an honest, informed choice as to whether or not they want the blessings of His gospel or not, and none of them "deserve to die" unless they themselves choose to do so. That's the Plan of Salvation in a nutshell.
Joe Smith was such a great prophet of God that when his wife caught him PoRKING the teen maid, he "revealed", for the 1st time, that God told him to do polygamy!
(Wife #1 never bought the bullshit)
Later only to become a state, mormons flip-flopped on polygamy despite their prophet, so that's BS.
Mitt Romney's family though, illegally immigrated to Mexico to keep polygamy going. Mitt's dad slipped back across the Rio Grande and was 1st Mexican-American to run for President. FACT - look it up
Joseph Smith forgot to go to the mental hospital, where there mental hospitals where he lived in the 1800’s. Because that man was delusional, I mean he told his followers their wives were to be his as well, 11 of them to be correct! Let’s see! God says in Exodus 20:17 NOT to covenant thy neighbor’s wife! But here there is a man who said God told him to take other men wives? So LOL
People have tried to Bash it , smash it or what ever , since the 1800's and it can't be done because Jesus Christ said it will never be taken off the earth again( in so many words) ! Are you more powerful than the Son of God!
Hammerogod@ you have some MAJOR issues! Have you been to mental health lately? Good can only teach good and evil teach evil, where do you come up with all this nonsense? We ( Mormons) will keep you in our prayers.
If you really want "Mormonism in a nutshell" read the 'Articles of faith.'
Many marveled at the rapid growth of this new Christian sect people called :Mormons", and a journalist of the time asked Joseph Smith if he could condense what his church taught into a few sentences, so those who weren't familiar with the church could understand the differences and similarities to protestant Christianity. These 13 statements have become known as "The Articles of Faith" by the church. ...
and when the devil and the people who followed him didnt agree with jesus, they were made all Black.....mormons are nuts...what about their planet behind the moon? then we went to the moon and it wasnt there, so then they said "well its invisible" ROFL
As evidenced by the mental retard getdownto311, mormons are idiots who can not spell and can not punctuate a sentence. Thanks for this excellent video on why mormons are completely retarded.
Love your neighbors as yourselves, people! Jesus even asked us to love your enemies. You are not doing it and I will continue to love you and pray for us all.
If you are ignorant about the Mormon faith, you will believe this video. This guy is a complete manipulator. If you came here to learn about "Mormonism" or the church of Jesus Christ of latter-day saints you should look for another source.
@IvyNex I wish YouTube provided a better platform to be able to debate. Send me a private message and I will be glad to let you know the truth. YouTube only allows a certain amount of characters per comment, with all the things he mentioned it would be hard to go thru one by one and defend them with the truth.
@mitchcoward Many Mormons go blissfully through, knowing nothing about the tenets of the LDS Church. I have studied many years and know what "the manipulator" (as you call him) has said is completely true. You need to investigate your church a little more. A couple of Sister Missionaries that I just talked to didn't even know that Joseph Smith had more than one wife. (All they have to do is ask the leaders in church...or get a library card!
@team4lls Satan always uses a bit of truth to manipulate people. Does that mean he will tell you the truth? Even Satan Quoted a scripture - Then the devil took him to the holy city and had him stand on the highest point of the temple. “If you are the Son of God,” he said, “throw yourself down. For it is written: “‘He will command his angels concerning you, and they will lift you up in their hands, so that you will not strike your foot against a stone.
@team4lls you really think this is accurate? then you obviously dont know what mormons believe,what makes you think you are the arbiter of mormon doctrine?
@getdownto311 You need to do some extensive research, too. If you spend a good amount of time around and talking with Mormons then these things all start to come out. I have been studying Mormonism since 1974 - I was in high school - and I don't consider myself to be an arbiter of Mormon Doctrine. A good source that I have found is the actual scriptures and D & C and the history of the church.
@team4lls You've sure got you hands dirty with slinging mud but you have horrible aim. All you have is 2nd and 3rd party quotes form the JoD on commentary
God is the creator of all things....including Joseph Smith. And He certainly did NOT need JS to "restore" the Bible. Who BTW did not "restore" anything - his story is COMPLETELY non-related to the Bible. Wake up Mormons - you are good people, (because you are required to be to get to the celestial kingdom), however, you have been fooled by a freemason demon infiltrated organization which is leading you like sheep to the slaughter. READ your Bible and get to know the REAL Jesus.
It makes me laugh when you get Mormons on these defending the "faith" saying things like "we don't believe that black people were cursed" when it is in the scriptures! Constantly trying to distance themselves from the bull shit that that church teaches!!
“But let them apostatize, and they will become gray-haired, wrinkled, and black, just like the Devil" (Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, vol. 5, p. 332
@tattoodfreeek “But let them apostatize, and they will become gray-haired, wrinkled, and black, just like the Devil" (Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, vol. 5, p. 332
LOL... really? Good quote but not what you are trying to make it sound like. So is black heated racist? Or what about pot calling the kettle black?
@Sk8er408 There is a reason why one man is born black and with other disadvantages, while another is born white with great advantages. The reason is that we once had an estate before we came here, and were obedient; more or less, to the laws that were given us there. Those who were faithful in all things there [pre-existence] received greater blessings here, and those who were not faithful received less. . . .
@Sk8er408 continued..There were no neutrals in the war in Heaven. All took sides either with Christ or with Satan. Every man had his agency there, and men receive rewards here based upon their actions there, just as they will receive rewards hereafter for deeds done in the body. The Negro, evidently, is receiving the reward he merits (Joseph Fielding Smith, Doctrines of Salvation, 1:61, 65-66; emphasis added).
@Sk8er408 Those who were less valiant in pre-existence and who thereby had certain spiritual restrictions impose on them during mortality are known to us as the negroes. Such spirits are sent to earth through the lineage of Cain, the mark put upon him for his rebellion against God, and his murder of Able being a black skin. . . .
@Sk8er408 You might actually want to learn to read then, the Joseph Fielding Smith quote states "Millions of souls have come into this world cursed with black skin and have been denied the privilege of Priesthood and the fullness of the blessings of the Gospel." So Mormonism has stopped you being able to read as well as not being able to think for yourself
@Sk8er408 Noah's son married Egyptus, a descendant of Cain, thus preserving the negro lineage through the flood. . . . the negro are not equal with other races where the receipt of certain spiritual blessings are concern. . . . " (Mormon Doctrine, 527-28; 1966 orig. ed., changed in the current ed.; emphasis added).
@Sk8er408 Joseph Smith first president, prophet, and founder of the Mormon Church: Had I anything to do with the negro, I would confine them by strict law to their own species, and put them on a national equalization" (Joseph Fielding Smith, Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, 270; History of the Church, 5: 218).
@Sk8er408 Joseph Fielding Smith also taught that "Negroes" were inferior to other races: Not only was Cain called upon to suffer, but because of his wickedness he became the father of an inferior race. A curse was place upon him and that curse has been continued through his lineage and must do so while time endures. Millions of souls have come into this world cursed with black skin and have been denied the privilege of Priesthood and the fullness of the blessings of the Gospel.
@Sk8er408 continued These are the descendants of Cain. Moreover, they have been made to feel their inferiority and have been separated from the rest of mankind from the beginning… we will also hope that blessings may eventually be given to our Negro brethren, for they are our brethren--children of God---notwithstanding their black covering emblematical of eternal darkness (The Way to Perfection, 101-02; emphasis added).
@hammerogod the Blasphemy & Heresy that make the core doctrines of the LDS
Please... would you be so kind to enlighten us one what these are?
One at a time... i can not take the mud trowing tactic of propaganda. You can post one, I'll rebuke you for your belief in what I'm sure is a lie(nto to meantion one that you probably only have taken your youth pastors word for it) and you can go to the next.
@hammerogod "God himself, the Father of us all, is a glorified, exalted immortal resurrected man!" (Bruce McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, pp. 322-23, 517, 643)
So you deny that Jesus is God and lowered himself to come to earth and is not a resurrected being of flesh and bone?
"Now if any of you will deny the plurality of wives, and continue to do so, I promise that you will be damned," (Journal of Discourses, vol. 3, p. 266).
"The only men who become Gods, even the Sons of God, are those who enter into polygamy," (Journal of Discourses, vol. 11, p. 269).
@hammerogod "Now if any of you will deny the plurality of wives, and continue to do so, I promise that you will be damned," (Journal of Discourses, vol. 3, p. 266).
There is not that much there... do you have issues with polygamy or following the commandments given form a prophet?
"...no man or woman in this dispensation will ever enter into the celestial kingdom of God without the consent of Joseph Smith," (Journal of Discourses, vol. 7, p. 289).
"The birth of the Savior was as natural as the births of our children; it was the result of natural action. He partook of flesh and blood--was begotten of his Father, as we were of our fathers." (Journal of Discourses, vol. 8, p. 115).
"I have given you a few leading items upon this subject, but a great deal more remains to be told. Now, remember from this time forth, and for ever, that Jesus Christ was not begotten by the Holy Ghost." (Journal of Discourses, vol. 1, p. 51).
"In the days of Joseph [Smith] it was considered a great privilege to be permitted to speak to a member of Congress, but twenty-six years will not pass away before the Elders of this Church will be as much thought of as the kings on their thrones," (Journal of Discourses, vol. 4, p. 40).
That is your Prophet saying that the Mormon Leaders will be Kings, or treated like Kings by the U.S. Government before the Civil War.
"You see some classes of the human family that are black, uncouth, uncomely, disagreeable and low in their habits, wild, and seemingly deprived of nearly all the blessings of the intelligence that is generally bestowed upon mankind....Cain slew his brother and the Lord put a mark upon him, which is the flat nose and black skin." (Journal of Discourses, vol. 7, p. 290).
Black people are cursed until they become Mormons then they turn White.
"Shall I tell you the law of God in regard to the African race? If the white man who belongs to the chosen seed mixes his blood with the seed of Cain, the penalty, under the law of God, is death on the spot. This will always be so." (Journal of Discourses, vol. 10, p. 110).
Mormons better get to killing.
You have 1/2 the population of the planet who are now under a death sentence according to Mormon Doctrine.
@hammerogod Jesus and Satan (Lucifer) were Brothers.
As Satan is an angel and a child of God that would make him our brother. But as he denied this he can not be adopted now can he? You are trying to applied things that use to be to today... He is no one's brother... Maybe you are following his footsteps with your deceiving nature.
"The birth of the Savior was as natural as are the births of our children; it was the result of natural action. He partook of flesh and blood -- was begotten of his Father as we were of our fathers." (Journal of Discourses, vol. 8, p. 115)
@hammerogod You totally misunderstand me. LOL. You know, the Shield of Faith? Hello? lol. The full armor of God? It's a good thing you put this stuff up there so it exposes who the mormons really are. :D
@hammerogod Oh, I don't want to confront Satan. I want to just defend against his fiery arrows. I am in total agreement with you about everything you believe regarding LDS. What gets me is they use the Holy Scriptures as an accessory to what they believe. It's like telling someone black and white are the same color, then walking around with both, trying to convince people it's true by showing and talking and politeness and acceptance. Many will be deceived.
@hammerogod Every word I posted comes directly from the mouth of one of your "Prophets" or the D&C or Pearl of Great Price.
1st they are not mine as i'm not LDS. And very little of the JoD is "directly from the mouth" of any of the Prophets of the LDS church. Like i've pointed out it is 2nd and 3rd hand commentary.
No you haven't... maybe in your mind or in a dream. I've faced down hate filled bigot like you before. All you guys want to do it show that you are right and the next guys is wrong/evil because he does not share your view.
@hammerogod nope save your breath kenny rogers! you are not the author of my salvation the Jesus Christ is the savior the world you are no position or have any authority whatsoever to judge a mans salvation you leave that up to christ
@hammerogod haha you calling me unto repentance,you claim you are a christian by go around bash,mock,and belittle peoples beliefs,so what is your faith? lying for jesus? sounds about right.
“Our weapons are not carnal but mighty in God for the pulling down of strongholds, casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of God”.
Repent Heretic!
Your "Prophet" said he did a greater work than Jesus.
"I have more to boast of than any man had. I am the only man that has ever been able to keep a whole church together since the days of Adam. A large majority of the whole have stood by me. Neither Paul, John, Peter, nor Jesus ever did it. I boast that no man ever did such work as I" (~ Joseph Smith~ History of the Church, Vol.6, pp. 408-09).
@hammerogod You've sure got you hands dirty with slinging mud but you have horrible aim. All you have is 2nd and 3rd party quotes form the JoD on commentary
@hammerogod and yet you claim you follow christ for repeating lie after lie,bearing false witness means nothing to you glad you keep your morals and integrety in check,your a fool!
@getdownto311 "repeating lie after lie" Show me where I lied. Just do it. Be prepared to make a point by point defense of every LDS false claim about the Nature of God. I don't lie, but Joseph Smith did...constantly. And I can pull up every one of Joseph's lies and put them right in your face. This is a challenge you poor Smithite. Show me one lie that I have told. And when you can't do that I will show you EVERY lie Joseph told. I will pick your tin prophet apart molecule by molecule.
Have you ever thought "Maybe I don't know it all?... maybe I don't have all the answers?"
People are flawed, even prophets are not perfect. Never have been. The Bible is full of examples. Consider for just a second: What if... Jesus really did restore His true gospel here on earth, & true priesthood authority, that began with His apostle Peter? What if?...
So if it turns out that you have been tearing down the work of Christ, and have spent your life warring against His church, You think He will say to you "Well done, good and faithful servant"??? REALLY?...
There are so many things I could say, but it is obvious that your heart is hardened; just like the pharisees in Jesus' time, and you won't listen to anything I say anyway.
I debate, but I do not argue. I feel sorry for you brother. I will pray for you.
@TheOriginalAnalogKid So, you picked Joseph ? Bad choice. Real bad choice. Don't feel sorry for me m'man. I have had a relationship with God since before you were born. And don't pray to somebody living on a planet near Kolob about me either. I don't want any part of that. It's a direct insult to God. You need to get you face in the Bible and read until the Holy Spirit shows you the truth.
"Here, then, is eternal life -- to know the only wise and true God; and you have got to learn how to be Gods yourselves, and to be kings and priests to God, the same as all Gods have done before you,... To inherit the same power, the same glory and the same exaltation, until you arrive at the station of a God.... " (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, pp. 346, 347)
"Brother Cannon remarked that people wondered how many wives and children I had. He may inform them, that I shall have wives and children by the million, and glory, and riches and power and dominion, and kingdom after kingdom, and reign triumphantly,"
LDS President and Prophet Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, vol. 8, p. 178.
'Come along, my boys, we will give you a good suit of clothes. Where are your wives?' 'They are back yonder; they would not follow us.' 'Never mind,' says Joseph. 'Here are thousands, have all you want,'"
LDS First Presidency Heber C. Kimball, Journal of Discourses, vol. 4, p. 209.
"Plural marriage is a pattern of marriage designed by God as part of His plan of eternal progress (the eternal progression and birthing of spirits in the future world - ed.) to further His kingdom and exalt (to godhood - ed.) His children,"
John J. Stewart, Brigham Young and His Wives, 1961, p. 71.
"The only men who become Gods, even the Sons of God, are those who enter into polygamy. ...I heard the revelation on polygamy, and I believe it with all my heart, and I know it is from God..."
LDS President and Prophet Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 11, p. 269, August 19, 1866.
@stuntbabyXD It's your Doctrine. It's taught by your 'Church'. It is in your D&C. It is in your Pearl of Great Price. Virtually everything Joseph Smith Jr. put on paper is Anti-Christ, Anti-Biblical and in direct contravention of the clear words of the Gospel. Smith's "Gospel" is not Good News. It's bondage. You are "A LDS youth", brought up in an LDS home. Taught from birth that "It's true, I know it's true". Well, what if it isn't? That is the question you have to find the real answer to.
@wirebeam I won't speak about Mormon beliefs but I have an analog that helps me understand why they believe them.. I grew up Catholic and I watched the process of teaching children to believe insane things. It's called "Incrementalism". You teach simple concepts first, things that can be proven and easily understood. Then you slowly add the insane crap in 'Increments'. Adding nonsense to truth slowly. Eventually you have them believing utter crap. I went through it. Then I got out. I win.
This guy is another extreme fundamentalist evangelical who pays lip service to Jesus, but ultimately believes in salvation by 100% correct doctrine. Notice how none of this effects how one follows Jesus or becomes changed by the Holy Spirit. Unless you have the correct doctrinal thoughts, the Fundamentalist Evan Jesus will damn you to hell for eternity. Who you are, what you do to follow Christ, or what you become apparently does not matter.
"in order to reach this exalted state of godhead a person must first become a good Mormon, paying a full 10% tithe......" Oh Oh got yah. Right there we see that it is all about the money. Religion needs to get out of the minds of people.
This is coming 4rm a dude who was Mormon for 13 years then found the facts: I was depressed, had no dreams, no friends except for ONE who was not mormon. When I did the research, I went to Atheism and stayed there for 2 years. But then, I read a book called "In the Grip of Grace" by Max Lucado. And it changed my views of everything. So I did pray 2 God, and he has helped me plenty of times. So I do believe that Mormonism and Atheism is false, but I won't press charges against them. Now i'm happy
@Snarkathon I'm sorry if I offended you in anyway. But I just don't believe in just science anymore. I have plenty of atheist friends and they don't mind me being christian. I just don't believe that Atheism is true because God answered me plenty of times. But you can be anything you want. That's the beautiful thing about choice
@DragonFriend94 You didnt offend :) and yes, choice is a beautiful thing. Science is not to be believed, thats its beauty. You dont take someone elses word for something & scientists dont expect you to, they expect you to question, in fact want you to. You cant make claims that arent provable, eg. god spoke to you while in the same breath say "I dont believe in science" which allows you to write the message in the first place. Atheism is not a belief, its the default position to theism.
Accurate Video. Mormon man is sorta like Superman. Mormon girls are goddess but only if their husbands like them on planet earth. Mormon man wakes up Mormon girl or she sleeps eternally. Like Snow white. Then she tosses litter after litter of babies. Call that a goddess if you like it... Question: What to do with the endless placenta. Can Vegetarians smother it in onions and eat it? We're talking about Mormonism so that's an important theological question.
after years of understanding that the bible cant be true due to science's discoveries, this vid just shows me what a nut job i was following this religion crap, fuck it im going to die one day and i accept that, all that faith ever did was to let me lie to my self about reality.
@CerebrumPedere Very convincing; thank you for your inspiring words. ;)
I'm curious, what is it about religion that makes you (and others) so hostile towards it?
Are you opposed to the principle of freedom to believe and freedom to have different ideas?
supernovamike 1 week ago
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I didn't know anything about Mormons before a couple of days ago. From what little I know now, the mormonism fantasy is worse than Islam by a long shot and makes christianity look realistic. To christians- there is no god, get over it. To muslims - there is no Allah, get over it. To mormons- you are not a god, gods don't exist, Joseph Smith can suck it, and get over your narcissistic selves
CerebrumPedere 1 week ago
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Mormons are some of the nicest people. Psalms 90:2 "..., or ever thou hadst formed the earth and the world, even from everlasting to everlasting, thou art God." According to this verse, how long HAS God been God? Isaiah 44:6 "I am the first, and I am the last, and beside me there is no God." Isaiah 44:8 "Is there a God beside Me? Yea, there is no God, I know not any." Finally, John 4:24 "God is spirit, and has not flesh and bones." Good Every goo Mormon should pray about this.
timetomakeauturn 1 week ago in playlist Morman Nutshell
@celticwomanfan01 hahaah.. Paul was a human being not a devine figure you idiot... you are missing the dam point... WOW haha... you dont need a dam degree, you just need common sence to know that those letters were not ment to be in the bible in the first place.. those were casual letters. Gospels and letters and John's revalations, these are not gods word you dum dum.. lol Christians dont even know who wrote these Gospels. No disrespect, but you dont even know what the true Bible is.
player12534 1 week ago
@player12534 Paul was a human being. Jesus was also fully human (and divine). The apostles were all human. So were Jesus' disciples. So what is your point? Does someone being "human" discredit the historical accounts which they might have left us? Does being human color the theology..? The whole Bible was written by HUMANS and as many would argue, divinely inspired. I don't see how you discredit Paul by saying he was human (cough cough here would be a good place to have a degree pal...)
celticwomanfan01 1 week ago
@player12534 And actually...the letters were decided upon for over 150 years (as were ALL OF THE BOOKS TO MAKE IT IN THE NEW TESTAMENT CANON) and debated by the early Christians...Paul's letters as we have them in the NT were never rejected...they were actually meant to be in the canon because all of the early Christians recognized Paul to be the apostle that he was....furthermore, though we can't give an exact author to all the writings, that does not take away from the teachings in them.
celticwomanfan01 1 week ago
I'm an active Mormon and I actually enjoyed this summary! As far as I could tell it all lines up with what my beliefs. Outsiders may scoff at how outlandish some of teachings seem, but the Jews crucified Christ because He claimed to be the Father (blasphemy in that time!). I would also like to point out that VERY few of these concepts are EVER taught in congregations today. We're not hiding anything; there are simply more important things to focus on, like the Atonement and teachings of Christ.
connnorcarpenter 1 week ago
Nutshell
rickbob682 2 weeks ago
@celticwomanfan01 First of all the the concept of Trinity wasnt originated from Jesus.. there were bunch of Bishops and priest, who had no idea how to make jesus a godly figure, came up with this term. No where in the Gospels did Jesus mention anything about the Trinity. Second, you can call it what ever floats your boat but in reality there is not such thing as Trinity being one God ... sprit is not God its a Sprit, which also means the blessing of god not a person. its an entity.
player12534 2 weeks ago
@player12534 Umm....come back to me when you earn a degree in Theology and Religious Studies like I have. If you had the proper education, you would know quite well that the Trinity, reference to the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are actually mentioned in many of Paul's letters...you know, those letters ALSO considered Scripture, in the New Testament, AND precede the gospels. Yes. That's right. Paul wrote before the gospel accounts, closer to Jesus' time, affirming the Trinity. Nice try though.
celticwomanfan01 1 week ago
Also, you can't be Christian and deny the Trinity...the understanding of the Trinity comes from the Gospel accounts themselves (also Paul) and the EARLIEST Christians understood that the Father was distinct from the Son and they distinct from the Holy Spirit. It took until 325 CE at the Council of Nicea to affirm that the Father and Son are of like essence, one "ousia," and that the Father "begetts" the Son. The H.S. is a hypostases too and one cannot be Christian and deny the Trinity.
celticwomanfan01 2 weeks ago
@celticwomanfan01 Be careful accusing Latter-day Saints of ignorance about Christ's original Church-- it's a very important part of LDS theology. I've read much of the creeds that were established by apostate councils during the first 400 years of Christianity, and they confirm to me my knowledge that the original Church and gospel of Jesus Christ was no longer on Earth. The Trinity as you describe it is a man-made teaching that represents the twisting of truth that happened during that time.
supernovamike 1 week ago
@supernovamike Apostate councils confirmed that the original Church an gospel of Jesus were no longer on earth? Ok...there is a reason all of those groups are largely in the ash heap of history. Orthodox Christian teaching, from the time of Jesus, that teaches the Trinitarian understanding of God, that is the most prominent and surviving form of Christianity. Do you ever wonder why most of the early Church heretics and schismatic groups died away...?
celticwomanfan01 1 week ago
@supernovamike Also...there is a "Kingdom" of sorts that is "not from this world" (You get that from the Gospel of John, btw) but that did not mean that there was no earthly Church, ministry, or 'gospel.' In no way then is the understanding of the Trinity (again, present in the New Testament writings in plenty of places) "represents the twisting of the truth that happened during that time." Tell me, tell me what "truth" you really think happened and I'll gladly rebut you with facts and history.
celticwomanfan01 1 week ago
@celticwomanfan01 You're citing majority opinion as evidence for divine truths? I don't understand that. According to the majority of human beings alive today, Jesus Christ wasn't even the Son of God as he claimed, so... should we go with that because that's what the majority says? No, the church of God always has been and always will be a minority. That's what the scriptures teach. (Matthew 7:13-14, for instance)
supernovamike 1 week ago
@celticwomanfan01 It is true that the Trinity has some (only some) scriptures to support it, but as player12534 said and you yourself confirmed, it is founded primarily in the councils that were held long after Christ. Many Christian groups, believing that scripture takes precedence over council decisions, have rejected the Trinity and were suppressed by the apostate church for doing so. With all respect, I think your calling them unChristian is, frankly, inappropriate, and a symptom of bigotry.
supernovamike 1 week ago
@supernovamike No. The understanding and language of the hypostases (persons) of the Trinity were there in the New Testament writings (do you want specific passages, haha) from the beginning. Keep in mind that was as early as 20-25 years after Jesus' death (for Paul's earliest letters) and shortly thereafter for the earliest gospel (Mark's written in about 70 CE) Scripture here actually agrees with the council's conclusions...
celticwomanfan01 1 week ago
@celticwomanfan01 About the Trinity, I've read many times the passages that say "I and my Father are one" or "which is One God," etc. But I've also read everything else.
The Trinity is founded primarily not in scripture but in councils. I enjoyed the Athanasian Creed, which puts the nature of the Godhead as something that is "incomprehensible." It's an effective security blanket, but unfortunately that idea has no scriptural support either... in fact it's opposed to what I find in the Bible.
supernovamike 1 week ago
@supernovamike Furthermore, you cannot be Christian and deny the Trinity...you just cannot be. Heresies and schismatics have a tendency to not be popular and survive throughout the centuries...the case can and should be made that the very very Scriptural understanding of the Trinity has been time tested to be the most orthodox Christian belief as evident by the overwhelming majority of Christians holding true to the Trinitarian doctrine. So yes, you Mormons, God bless you, are not Christians.
celticwomanfan01 1 week ago
@celticwomanfan01 Have you ever even considered the possibility that one of those churches that you call "heretic and schismatic" was actually the right one? Is there any reason why it could not be? The church that you claim to be inspired is guilty of violently suppressing other groups that did not accept their creeds. Is that Christ's way of spreading His church--by crushing all other opinions, destroying opposing religious texts, and slaughtering infidels? No, that's the Roman's way.
supernovamike 1 week ago
@celticwomanfan01 You say that "Heresies and schismatics have a tendency to not be popular." Is that so? I hear atheism is very popular nowadays. Islam has been around for awhile, and it's doing fine. I don't think you understand the power of the devil. The truth is NEVER popular (they killed Christ, remember?), and according to history, the only thing that never seems to last very long is the truth. I mean...how long was Moses gone before the Israelites started worshipping a statue? (Exodus 32)
supernovamike 1 week ago
God "Let us make man in our image and after our likness"..'I and my Father are One"...'The only begotten Son". An eternal, loving relationship of eternal Father, eternal Son and eternal Spirit IS God. Who did God love before Creation?. God is three Persons in a unchanging, eternal and Organized relationship.Creation of man and women to have a Relationship because God Is In a Relationship. Father and Son had loved each other before Creation. Son does the Fathers will.
NoneBeforeNoneAfter 2 weeks ago in playlist Cults - Mormonism
@celticwomanfan01 NO THEY DONT... CHRISTIANS DONT BELIEVE IN ONE GOD ONLY.. CHRISTIAN FAITH IS BASED UPON THE CONCEPT OF TRINITY... FATHER SON AND HOLYSPRIT... NOW THEY MIGHT SAY THAT ITS ALL ONE BUT COME ON WHO ARE WE KIDDING... YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT THREE DIFFERENT ENTITIES... WHEN JESUS PBUH SAID THAT THAT I HAVE MANY THINGS TO SAY ON TO YOU . AND THEN ACCORDING TO CHRISTIANS HE SAID THAT THE HOLY SPIRIT IS MENTIONED. BUT IF THE THE SON AND THE HOLY SPRIT IS THE SAME. WHY DIDNT HE SAY I WILL
player12534 2 weeks ago
@player12534 and also @supernovamike You are both wrong when it comes to what actual Christians believe in. The Trinity is not a concept of three different gods, there is ONE God and the Trinity is composed of three hypostases (literally, "persons") - But of course you wouldn't understand that since you have no historical knowledge of the Early Church or the first 400 years of Christianity. The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit of of the same essence "Ousia" and are one God. Three hypostases, 1 God.
celticwomanfan01 2 weeks ago
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH....LOLOLOLOLOL.... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH...LOLOLOLOLOLO..HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.....HMMMM...BUHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA....
player12534 2 weeks ago
@celticwomanfan01 If we simply put away the false idea of the Triune God, we already see a system that is not monotheistic. Yet the LDS Church is not the only Christian church to deny the Trinity.
In the end, we know there is still only ONE God in charge.
supernovamike 2 weeks ago
@celticwomanfan01 I repeat that, like you, we believe that our Heavenly Father created the entire universe, and is not just the "God of this earth." I also repeat that all discussion of His "former life" and all that goes with it is purely speculation.
supernovamike 2 weeks ago
@celticwomanfan01 Don't trust everything this video tells you. Their intent is to discredit "mormonism," and, like everyone else, they do so by decontextualizing and twisting the truth, thereby creating a ridiculous-looking straw-man caricature.
supernovamike 2 weeks ago
Christians believe in ONE and ONLY one God....Mormons are not Christian in any sense. haha
celticwomanfan01 2 weeks ago
Yes and this guy is one of them!!!!
Aldensmawmaw 2 weeks ago
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LetsgetKookin 2 weeks ago
Sorry. Mormons are polytheists. Just because you affirm ONE God (i.e. the 'Father;) here on Earth, because Mormons also affirm other gods on other planets, they are essentially and undoubtedly polytheists...i.e. NOT Christian. Sorry guys.
celticwomanfan01 3 weeks ago
@celticwomanfan01 That would be a fair point, but you're mistaken. There's no current revelation stating that there are "other gods on other planets"; we believe God to be the One who created all of the known universe. Any talk about other gods who may rule over other universes (not just other planets) is speculative and is not regarded as fact, and certainly not as doctrine. Critics will use such ideas to caricature LDS beliefs, but they do so falsely -- and usually maliciously.
supernovamike 2 weeks ago
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celticwomanfan01 2 weeks ago
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@supernovamike If what the gentlemen in the video says is true "doctrine" of LDS belief, the fact that Mormons support the idea that the "One" God of this earth had a wife, who was essentially a goddess from another planet, that STILL affirms a polytheistic view, i.e. not Christian in any sense. Not to mention the fact that the "One" God was first human, but then became God...and answered to the God on his planet (when he was human), that's polytheism and I am taking it directly from this vid.
celticwomanfan01 2 weeks ago
Ridiculous rituals (secret handshake? are you five?) do NOT make you worthy of being a "god". Mormons need to correlate their beliefs to LOGIC before they expect any reasonable person to believe it. I'm so glad I'm agnostic.
Cyarkaios 3 weeks ago
@Cyarkaios That's what you would say to anyone of any religion, is it not? Religion isn't always logical. It follows a more reliable method of establishing truth by going straight to the Creator for it. Trying to figure everything out with a mortal brain will just confuse people; that's pretty obvious if we just look around.
supernovamike 3 weeks ago
@supernovamike No actually, I used to be christian, but I realized that you have to have faith in god, not in humans. Humans develop these absurd belief systems and say that you MUST believe it otherwise you will go to "hell". A truly loving god would not be so selfish and say "here is a present for you" and you don't respond in a finite span of time so he stabs you in the back and tells you you deserve to die. I have NO faith whatsoever in selfish arrogant humans.
Cyarkaios 3 weeks ago
@Cyarkaios If you were to learn more about what Latter-day Saints really believe (meaning you have to ask them), you might be surprised and even pleased by what you see. We do not condemn people to any "hell," but do believe in a loving God who gives everybody a fair chance to make an honest, informed choice as to whether or not they want the blessings of His gospel or not, and none of them "deserve to die" unless they themselves choose to do so. That's the Plan of Salvation in a nutshell.
supernovamike 2 weeks ago
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Joe Smith was such a great prophet of God that when his wife caught him PoRKING the teen maid, he "revealed", for the 1st time, that God told him to do polygamy!
(Wife #1 never bought the bullshit)
Later only to become a state, mormons flip-flopped on polygamy despite their prophet, so that's BS.
Mitt Romney's family though, illegally immigrated to Mexico to keep polygamy going. Mitt's dad slipped back across the Rio Grande and was 1st Mexican-American to run for President. FACT - look it up
dleechristy 3 weeks ago
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God said this world will pass! but his word will stand forever! NOT the book of Mormon!
Chinaculiacan 3 weeks ago
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Joseph Smith forgot to go to the mental hospital, where there mental hospitals where he lived in the 1800’s. Because that man was delusional, I mean he told his followers their wives were to be his as well, 11 of them to be correct! Let’s see! God says in Exodus 20:17 NOT to covenant thy neighbor’s wife! But here there is a man who said God told him to take other men wives? So LOL
Chinaculiacan 3 weeks ago
People have tried to Bash it , smash it or what ever , since the 1800's and it can't be done because Jesus Christ said it will never be taken off the earth again( in so many words) ! Are you more powerful than the Son of God!
Aldensmawmaw 4 weeks ago
@Aldensmawmaw it can't be done, because stupid people will always exist...
al3xm4ndud3 2 weeks ago
Hammerogod@ you have some MAJOR issues! Have you been to mental health lately? Good can only teach good and evil teach evil, where do you come up with all this nonsense? We ( Mormons) will keep you in our prayers.
Aldensmawmaw 4 weeks ago
The Articles of Faith of the church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints: lds dot org/library/display/0%2C4945%2C106-1-2-1%2CFF.html
(Or go to ... mormon dot org .)
TheOriginalAnalogKid 1 month ago 2
If you really want "Mormonism in a nutshell" read the 'Articles of faith.'
Many marveled at the rapid growth of this new Christian sect people called :Mormons", and a journalist of the time asked Joseph Smith if he could condense what his church taught into a few sentences, so those who weren't familiar with the church could understand the differences and similarities to protestant Christianity. These 13 statements have become known as "The Articles of Faith" by the church. ...
TheOriginalAnalogKid 1 month ago 5
love the irony of a christian saying that mormonism is ridiculous......
TheDanchip 1 month ago 10
@TheDanchip like, a thousands times like.
rockman22 10 hours ago
and when the devil and the people who followed him didnt agree with jesus, they were made all Black.....mormons are nuts...what about their planet behind the moon? then we went to the moon and it wasnt there, so then they said "well its invisible" ROFL
JJHaRtSGaming 1 month ago in playlist More videos from carmvideos
You cannot know Mormonism in a nutshell any more than you can know the Bible that way. The Temple is NOT secret. This guy is a deceiver.
LDStothecore 1 month ago 2
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God The Father Of The Mormons Has Come, click on my channel to see...
youneekk 1 month ago
As evidenced by the mental retard getdownto311, mormons are idiots who can not spell and can not punctuate a sentence. Thanks for this excellent video on why mormons are completely retarded.
mdlinks 1 month ago
@mdlinks haha somebody is stalking me
getdownto311 1 month ago
Dude, your countenance looks pretty rough.
savezelda 2 months ago
That's a nice story...
Kevinhillcrest 2 months ago
Love your neighbors as yourselves, people! Jesus even asked us to love your enemies. You are not doing it and I will continue to love you and pray for us all.
Sumytid 2 months ago
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this video is hurting my eyes and my ears.
LinaEgyptian 3 months ago
this video is hurting my eyes.
LinaEgyptian 3 months ago
If you are ignorant about the Mormon faith, you will believe this video. This guy is a complete manipulator. If you came here to learn about "Mormonism" or the church of Jesus Christ of latter-day saints you should look for another source.
mitchcoward 3 months ago
@mitchcoward it's easy to make a claim about someone being a manipulator when you don't offer evidence on why he is one.
IvyNex 2 months ago
@IvyNex I wish YouTube provided a better platform to be able to debate. Send me a private message and I will be glad to let you know the truth. YouTube only allows a certain amount of characters per comment, with all the things he mentioned it would be hard to go thru one by one and defend them with the truth.
mitchcoward 2 months ago
@mitchcoward I don't need to look for another source about Mormonism. This is accurate.
team4lls 2 months ago
@team4lls If this is accurate, than you clearly know nothing about the LDS faith.
mitchcoward 2 months ago
@mitchcoward Many Mormons go blissfully through, knowing nothing about the tenets of the LDS Church. I have studied many years and know what "the manipulator" (as you call him) has said is completely true. You need to investigate your church a little more. A couple of Sister Missionaries that I just talked to didn't even know that Joseph Smith had more than one wife. (All they have to do is ask the leaders in church...or get a library card!
team4lls 2 months ago
@team4lls Satan always uses a bit of truth to manipulate people. Does that mean he will tell you the truth? Even Satan Quoted a scripture - Then the devil took him to the holy city and had him stand on the highest point of the temple. “If you are the Son of God,” he said, “throw yourself down. For it is written: “‘He will command his angels concerning you, and they will lift you up in their hands, so that you will not strike your foot against a stone.
mitchcoward 2 months ago
@team4lls you really think this is accurate? then you obviously dont know what mormons believe,what makes you think you are the arbiter of mormon doctrine?
getdownto311 1 month ago
@getdownto311 You need to do some extensive research, too. If you spend a good amount of time around and talking with Mormons then these things all start to come out. I have been studying Mormonism since 1974 - I was in high school - and I don't consider myself to be an arbiter of Mormon Doctrine. A good source that I have found is the actual scriptures and D & C and the history of the church.
team4lls 1 month ago
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@team4lls You've sure got you hands dirty with slinging mud but you have horrible aim. All you have is 2nd and 3rd party quotes form the JoD on commentary
getdownto311 1 month ago
God is the creator of all things....including Joseph Smith. And He certainly did NOT need JS to "restore" the Bible. Who BTW did not "restore" anything - his story is COMPLETELY non-related to the Bible. Wake up Mormons - you are good people, (because you are required to be to get to the celestial kingdom), however, you have been fooled by a freemason demon infiltrated organization which is leading you like sheep to the slaughter. READ your Bible and get to know the REAL Jesus.
tmlaporte 3 months ago in playlist More videos from carmvideos
It makes me laugh when you get Mormons on these defending the "faith" saying things like "we don't believe that black people were cursed" when it is in the scriptures! Constantly trying to distance themselves from the bull shit that that church teaches!!
tattoodfreeek 3 months ago
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It is not in the scriptures. You should read them. Please quote me where it says "Black people were cursed".
Sk8er408 3 months ago
@Sk8er408 try reading quotes from Bring'um Young
“But let them apostatize, and they will become gray-haired, wrinkled, and black, just like the Devil" (Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, vol. 5, p. 332
tattoodfreeek 3 months ago
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@tattoodfreeek “But let them apostatize, and they will become gray-haired, wrinkled, and black, just like the Devil" (Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, vol. 5, p. 332
LOL... really? Good quote but not what you are trying to make it sound like. So is black heated racist? Or what about pot calling the kettle black?
Sk8er408 3 months ago
@Sk8er408 There is a reason why one man is born black and with other disadvantages, while another is born white with great advantages. The reason is that we once had an estate before we came here, and were obedient; more or less, to the laws that were given us there. Those who were faithful in all things there [pre-existence] received greater blessings here, and those who were not faithful received less. . . .
tattoodfreeek 3 months ago
@Sk8er408 continued..There were no neutrals in the war in Heaven. All took sides either with Christ or with Satan. Every man had his agency there, and men receive rewards here based upon their actions there, just as they will receive rewards hereafter for deeds done in the body. The Negro, evidently, is receiving the reward he merits (Joseph Fielding Smith, Doctrines of Salvation, 1:61, 65-66; emphasis added).
tattoodfreeek 3 months ago
@Sk8er408 Those who were less valiant in pre-existence and who thereby had certain spiritual restrictions impose on them during mortality are known to us as the negroes. Such spirits are sent to earth through the lineage of Cain, the mark put upon him for his rebellion against God, and his murder of Able being a black skin. . . .
tattoodfreeek 3 months ago
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None of these calls black skin a curse.... try again.
Sk8er408 3 months ago
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@Sk8er408 You might actually want to learn to read then, the Joseph Fielding Smith quote states "Millions of souls have come into this world cursed with black skin and have been denied the privilege of Priesthood and the fullness of the blessings of the Gospel." So Mormonism has stopped you being able to read as well as not being able to think for yourself
tattoodfreeek 3 months ago
@Sk8er408 Noah's son married Egyptus, a descendant of Cain, thus preserving the negro lineage through the flood. . . . the negro are not equal with other races where the receipt of certain spiritual blessings are concern. . . . " (Mormon Doctrine, 527-28; 1966 orig. ed., changed in the current ed.; emphasis added).
tattoodfreeek 3 months ago
@Sk8er408 Joseph Smith first president, prophet, and founder of the Mormon Church: Had I anything to do with the negro, I would confine them by strict law to their own species, and put them on a national equalization" (Joseph Fielding Smith, Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, 270; History of the Church, 5: 218).
tattoodfreeek 3 months ago
@Sk8er408 Joseph Fielding Smith also taught that "Negroes" were inferior to other races: Not only was Cain called upon to suffer, but because of his wickedness he became the father of an inferior race. A curse was place upon him and that curse has been continued through his lineage and must do so while time endures. Millions of souls have come into this world cursed with black skin and have been denied the privilege of Priesthood and the fullness of the blessings of the Gospel.
tattoodfreeek 3 months ago
@Sk8er408 continued These are the descendants of Cain. Moreover, they have been made to feel their inferiority and have been separated from the rest of mankind from the beginning… we will also hope that blessings may eventually be given to our Negro brethren, for they are our brethren--children of God---notwithstanding their black covering emblematical of eternal darkness (The Way to Perfection, 101-02; emphasis added).
tattoodfreeek 3 months ago
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@Sk8er408 you seeing a pattern there??? Or are you going to explain it away???
tattoodfreeek 3 months ago
shaking hands w/ God ?? seriously ?? wow
honeybun33 3 months ago
When Mormons hear about the Blasphemy & Heresy that make the core doctrines of the LDS and don't shudder in fear then their souls are dead.
That is the choice of each Mormon and they will have to face God with it.
I am sure He will be interested in hearing from Mormons about how wrong His Gospel is.
I would personally run as fast as I could away from an 'Organization' that claims that God has sex with Jesus' mother Mary.
God will deal with LSD Blasphemy & Heresy when the time comes.
hammerogod 3 months ago
@hammerogod the Blasphemy & Heresy that make the core doctrines of the LDS
Please... would you be so kind to enlighten us one what these are?
One at a time... i can not take the mud trowing tactic of propaganda. You can post one, I'll rebuke you for your belief in what I'm sure is a lie(nto to meantion one that you probably only have taken your youth pastors word for it) and you can go to the next.
Sk8er408 3 months ago
@Sk8er408
"God himself, the Father of us all, is a glorified, exalted immortal resurrected man!" (Bruce McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, pp. 322-23, 517, 643)
"...God himself was once as we are now and is an exalted man and sits enthroned in yonder heavens..." (Journal of Discourses, V6, P3, 1844)
hammerogod 3 months ago
@hammerogod
You are not good with directions huh?
Sk8er408 3 months ago
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@hammerogod "God himself, the Father of us all, is a glorified, exalted immortal resurrected man!" (Bruce McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, pp. 322-23, 517, 643)
So you deny that Jesus is God and lowered himself to come to earth and is not a resurrected being of flesh and bone?
Sk8er408 3 months ago
@Sk8er408
"Now if any of you will deny the plurality of wives, and continue to do so, I promise that you will be damned," (Journal of Discourses, vol. 3, p. 266).
"The only men who become Gods, even the Sons of God, are those who enter into polygamy," (Journal of Discourses, vol. 11, p. 269).
hammerogod 3 months ago
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@hammerogod "Now if any of you will deny the plurality of wives, and continue to do so, I promise that you will be damned," (Journal of Discourses, vol. 3, p. 266).
There is not that much there... do you have issues with polygamy or following the commandments given form a prophet?
Sk8er408 3 months ago
@Sk8er408
"...no man or woman in this dispensation will ever enter into the celestial kingdom of God without the consent of Joseph Smith," (Journal of Discourses, vol. 7, p. 289).
hammerogod 3 months ago
@hammerogod
What is your issue with this?
Sk8er408 3 months ago
@Sk8er408
"The birth of the Savior was as natural as the births of our children; it was the result of natural action. He partook of flesh and blood--was begotten of his Father, as we were of our fathers." (Journal of Discourses, vol. 8, p. 115).
God came down and had sex with Mary?
hammerogod 3 months ago
@hammerogod God came down and had sex with Mary?
Where does it say that? I'm always amazed at you guys that say JS was a sex addict but you yourselves see sex in everything.
Sk8er408 3 months ago
@Sk8er408
"I have given you a few leading items upon this subject, but a great deal more remains to be told. Now, remember from this time forth, and for ever, that Jesus Christ was not begotten by the Holy Ghost." (Journal of Discourses, vol. 1, p. 51).
Jesus was not begotten by the Holy Spirit?
hammerogod 3 months ago
@hammerogod Jesus was not begotten by the Holy Spirit?
That is right as he is the only begotten of the Father/Son of God. Or do you deny that also?
Sk8er408 3 months ago
@Sk8er408
"In the days of Joseph [Smith] it was considered a great privilege to be permitted to speak to a member of Congress, but twenty-six years will not pass away before the Elders of this Church will be as much thought of as the kings on their thrones," (Journal of Discourses, vol. 4, p. 40).
That is your Prophet saying that the Mormon Leaders will be Kings, or treated like Kings by the U.S. Government before the Civil War.
Fail.
Mega-Fail
PROPHETIC Fail.
hammerogod 3 months ago
@hammerogod
I'm sure you have never claimed that the LDS church has too much power right?
Sk8er408 3 months ago
@Sk8er408
"You see some classes of the human family that are black, uncouth, uncomely, disagreeable and low in their habits, wild, and seemingly deprived of nearly all the blessings of the intelligence that is generally bestowed upon mankind....Cain slew his brother and the Lord put a mark upon him, which is the flat nose and black skin." (Journal of Discourses, vol. 7, p. 290).
Black people are cursed until they become Mormons then they turn White.
Can we see a video of that happening?
hammerogod 3 months ago
@hammerogod
Sorry... but no where does it say black people are cursed.
Sk8er408 3 months ago
@hammerogod
You've sure got you hands dirty with slinging mud but you have horrible aim. All you have is 2nd and 3rd party quotes form the JoD on commentary.
Sk8er408 3 months ago
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@Sk8er408
"Shall I tell you the law of God in regard to the African race? If the white man who belongs to the chosen seed mixes his blood with the seed of Cain, the penalty, under the law of God, is death on the spot. This will always be so." (Journal of Discourses, vol. 10, p. 110).
Mormons better get to killing.
You have 1/2 the population of the planet who are now under a death sentence according to Mormon Doctrine.
hammerogod 3 months ago
@Sk8er408
the official LDS teacher’s manual, "Gospel Principles" teaches that Jesus and Satan (Lucifer) were Brothers.
See: Abraham 3:27 & Moses 4:1
hammerogod 3 months ago
@hammerogod Jesus and Satan (Lucifer) were Brothers.
As Satan is an angel and a child of God that would make him our brother. But as he denied this he can not be adopted now can he? You are trying to applied things that use to be to today... He is no one's brother... Maybe you are following his footsteps with your deceiving nature.
Sk8er408 3 months ago
What's funny (not that funny I guess when you consider it) is that I would say 80%, or more, of professing mormons don't even know this stuff.
CommunityStraightUP 3 months ago
Dear Mormons:
You will be held responsible before God for what your 'Organization' teaches...even if you don't understand all of it.
God will not find you innocent for following Satan.
Learn the truth behind the the Doctrines of your 'Church'.
Let the Holy Spirit guide you and don't count on "A warm feeling in your Bosom".
God's words in the Bible speak.
If they say something different than what Joseph said then go with the Bible.
The Holy Spirit will witness the truth.
hammerogod 3 months ago
"The birth of the Savior was as natural as are the births of our children; it was the result of natural action. He partook of flesh and blood -- was begotten of his Father as we were of our fathers." (Journal of Discourses, vol. 8, p. 115)
hammerogod 3 months ago
@hammerogod Thank you for these great references. It strengthens my Shield to know these things about the enemy.
CommunityStraightUP 3 months ago
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hammerogod 3 months ago
@hammerogod You totally misunderstand me. LOL. You know, the Shield of Faith? Hello? lol. The full armor of God? It's a good thing you put this stuff up there so it exposes who the mormons really are. :D
CommunityStraightUP 3 months ago
@CommunityStraightUP
Would you consider any of these people to be your Enemy?
/watch?v=NwwIKs9A7Vc
Watch both parts of the series and tell me what you think.
hammerogod 3 months ago
@CommunityStraightUP
It will take a strong "Shield" to confront Satan.
I know that there are many good Mormons but at the root of almost everything that happens in the Temple is a core of rottenness.
Satan sits and laughs at the captives he has made by using Smith & Young as puppets.
I am sure in my heart the Joseph did have a 'Revelation'...it came straight from Hell.
The "Angel" Joseph saw could only be one being.
The Father of Lies spewed out what is now Core Doctrine for the LDS.
hammerogod 3 months ago
@hammerogod Oh, I don't want to confront Satan. I want to just defend against his fiery arrows. I am in total agreement with you about everything you believe regarding LDS. What gets me is they use the Holy Scriptures as an accessory to what they believe. It's like telling someone black and white are the same color, then walking around with both, trying to convince people it's true by showing and talking and politeness and acceptance. Many will be deceived.
CommunityStraightUP 3 months ago
@hammerogod
your pride reeks of hate.
Sk8er408 3 months ago
@Sk8er408
I am only quoting LDS Doctrine.
It's not Pride, it's Truth.
Every word I posted comes directly from the mouth of one of your "Prophets" or the D&C or Pearl of Great Price.
If you call quotes from LDS Doctrine "Prideful" or "Hateful" then then I have to agree.
The LDS is a Bigoted, Racist, Anti-God organization that draws people like you.
I have faced you down before.
You come up with Lies and Deceptions and never answer a question with a straight answer.
God will be your Judge.
hammerogod 3 months ago
@hammerogod I am only quoting LDS Doctrine.
The only "doctrine" you quoted was the one from their gospel principals. And even that you fall to realize that the bible teaches this also.
Sk8er408 3 months ago
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@hammerogod Every word I posted comes directly from the mouth of one of your "Prophets" or the D&C or Pearl of Great Price.
1st they are not mine as i'm not LDS. And very little of the JoD is "directly from the mouth" of any of the Prophets of the LDS church. Like i've pointed out it is 2nd and 3rd hand commentary.
Sk8er408 3 months ago
@hammerogod If you call quotes from LDS Doctrine "Prideful" or "Hateful" then then I have to agree.
I call your ignorance and refuses to understand facts prideful. and based on hate. Again you have not quoted but one doctrinal fact.
Sk8er408 3 months ago
@hammerogod The LDS is a Bigoted, Racist, Anti-God organization that draws people like you.
You are bigoted the same as they are but even worst with your intolerance of anyone that is different then you.
God is a racist... or did you miss that part of the bible? How are they anti God?
Sk8er408 3 months ago
@hammerogod I have faced you down before.
No you haven't... maybe in your mind or in a dream. I've faced down hate filled bigot like you before. All you guys want to do it show that you are right and the next guys is wrong/evil because he does not share your view.
Sk8er408 3 months ago
@Sk8er408
When you see the Truth as evil then you are in serious trouble.
You are free to believe anything you want.
I honestly don't care.
You only have to answer to God.
But I won't let LDS lies go unanswered.
Carefully read the quotes I posted and compare them to the original words in the books I quoted from and point out where I made any mistakes.
YOUR books say what I quoted them as saying.
Blasphemy and Heresy on every page.
I pity the people trapped in the LDS nightmare.
hammerogod 3 months ago
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@hammerogod
You see lies & evil as truth
you do believe anything you want. all you have is your opinion as you dont have a care
You seem to ignore God
You have not shown any lies but the ones you yourself have given
I pity people trapped in the hate of others.
If you can point to the JoD can i point to apocrypha writings to show Christianity wrong?
Sk8er408 3 months ago
@hammerogod yeah good thing we have god to answer to NOT YOU!
getdownto311 1 month ago
@getdownto311
If it was me who had to answer for the LDS Heresy I wouldn't want to face God.
I would be in the depths of hopelessness and weeping if I was LDS.
But you have your mind made up so you and God can sort it out.
Thank God I am a Born Again Christian who's Sins have been washed away by Jesus on the Cross.
Repent you godless heathen!
Throw yourself on your knees and beg God's forgiveness because you taught people that He was once a man.
Cry bitter tears Mormon.
Joseph doomed you.
hammerogod 1 month ago
@hammerogod nope save your breath kenny rogers! you are not the author of my salvation the Jesus Christ is the savior the world you are no position or have any authority whatsoever to judge a mans salvation you leave that up to christ
getdownto311 1 month ago
@getdownto311
I am very comfortable leaving it up to Christ.
But, since LDS Doctrine says that I must also have Joseph's approval, who is judging who?
Repent of your Heresy!
hammerogod 1 month ago
@hammerogod haha you calling me unto repentance,you claim you are a christian by go around bash,mock,and belittle peoples beliefs,so what is your faith? lying for jesus? sounds about right.
getdownto311 1 month ago
@getdownto311 2 Cor.10:3-5
“Our weapons are not carnal but mighty in God for the pulling down of strongholds, casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of God”.
Repent Heretic!
Your "Prophet" said he did a greater work than Jesus.
hammerogod 1 month ago
"I have more to boast of than any man had. I am the only man that has ever been able to keep a whole church together since the days of Adam. A large majority of the whole have stood by me. Neither Paul, John, Peter, nor Jesus ever did it. I boast that no man ever did such work as I" (~ Joseph Smith~ History of the Church, Vol.6, pp. 408-09).
hammerogod 1 month ago
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@hammerogod You've sure got you hands dirty with slinging mud but you have horrible aim. All you have is 2nd and 3rd party quotes form the JoD on commentary
getdownto311 1 month ago
@getdownto311
To me the LDS is Satan's church on earth.
I will bash it.
I will mock it.
I will belittle it.
And I will face Jesus with the knowledge that I tried to shine some light into the dark and occult lie of your sham 'Church'.
Repent!
LDS "Active" Membership is now below 15%.
Don't be the last one out or you will have to pay the light bill.
hammerogod 1 month ago
@hammerogod and yet you claim you follow christ for repeating lie after lie,bearing false witness means nothing to you glad you keep your morals and integrety in check,your a fool!
getdownto311 1 month ago
@getdownto311
REPENT you Smithite Heathen!
hammerogod 1 month ago
hammerogod 1 month ago
@hammerogod
Have you ever thought "Maybe I don't know it all?... maybe I don't have all the answers?"
People are flawed, even prophets are not perfect. Never have been. The Bible is full of examples. Consider for just a second: What if... Jesus really did restore His true gospel here on earth, & true priesthood authority, that began with His apostle Peter? What if?...
How will you feel when you face Him then? ...
-God bless.
TheOriginalAnalogKid 1 month ago 2
@TheOriginalAnalogKid
When I face Jesus I will hear Him say "Well done, good and faithful servant"
How I will feel is best expressed in 1 Corinthians 2:9.
"No eye has seen, no ear has heard, and no mind has imagined the things that God has prepared for those who love him."
No matter how hard I try my mind is incapable of even imagining what I will feel.
That passage of Scripture also pretty much dooms Joseph Jr.
Because he claimed that he HAD imagined, heard and seen it.
God or Joseph?
hammerogod 1 month ago
@hammerogod
So if it turns out that you have been tearing down the work of Christ, and have spent your life warring against His church, You think He will say to you "Well done, good and faithful servant"??? REALLY?...
There are so many things I could say, but it is obvious that your heart is hardened; just like the pharisees in Jesus' time, and you won't listen to anything I say anyway.
I debate, but I do not argue. I feel sorry for you brother. I will pray for you.
-God Bless
TheOriginalAnalogKid 1 month ago
hammerogod 1 month ago
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@hammerogod You go Boy!! :)
Chinaculiacan 3 weeks ago
"Here, then, is eternal life -- to know the only wise and true God; and you have got to learn how to be Gods yourselves, and to be kings and priests to God, the same as all Gods have done before you,... To inherit the same power, the same glory and the same exaltation, until you arrive at the station of a God.... " (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, pp. 346, 347)
hammerogod 3 months ago
"Brother Cannon remarked that people wondered how many wives and children I had. He may inform them, that I shall have wives and children by the million, and glory, and riches and power and dominion, and kingdom after kingdom, and reign triumphantly,"
LDS President and Prophet Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, vol. 8, p. 178.
hammerogod 3 months ago
'Come along, my boys, we will give you a good suit of clothes. Where are your wives?' 'They are back yonder; they would not follow us.' 'Never mind,' says Joseph. 'Here are thousands, have all you want,'"
LDS First Presidency Heber C. Kimball, Journal of Discourses, vol. 4, p. 209.
hammerogod 3 months ago
"Plural marriage is a pattern of marriage designed by God as part of His plan of eternal progress (the eternal progression and birthing of spirits in the future world - ed.) to further His kingdom and exalt (to godhood - ed.) His children,"
John J. Stewart, Brigham Young and His Wives, 1961, p. 71.
hammerogod 3 months ago
Mormon Apostasy just keeps going.
"If none but Gods will be permitted to multiply immortal children, it follows that each God must have one or more wives,"
LDS Apostle Orson Pratt, The Seer, p. 158
hammerogod 3 months ago
Mormonism starts slipping into pure Heresy when you start really reading into it's doctrines.
"The Scripture says that He, the Lord, came walking in the Temple, with His train; I do no know who they were, unless His wives and children . . ."
LDS President and Prophet Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, vol. 13, p. 309.
hammerogod 3 months ago
The more you know about Mormonism the more Anti-Biblical it get.
"When our father Adam came into the garden of Eden, he came into it with a celestial body, and brought Eve, one of his wives with him,"
LDS President and Prophet Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, vol. 1, p. 50.
hammerogod 3 months ago
Mormon nonsense goes deep.
"The only men who become Gods, even the Sons of God, are those who enter into polygamy. ...I heard the revelation on polygamy, and I believe it with all my heart, and I know it is from God..."
LDS President and Prophet Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 11, p. 269, August 19, 1866.
hammerogod 3 months ago
this is wrong. i am an LDS youth and i know for a fact that this is wrong. We all exsisted in our spirit world in heaven but the rest is wrong
stuntbabyXD 3 months ago
hammerogod 3 months ago
How fucked up do you have to be to believe this shit?
wirebeam 3 months ago
hammerogod 3 months ago
If there's one thing Christians and Atheists agree on, it's Mormonism.
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wolfumz 4 months ago
This is not what the LDS church teaches... This guy has watched God Makers too many times and believes the propaganda.
Sk8er408 4 months ago
This guy is another extreme fundamentalist evangelical who pays lip service to Jesus, but ultimately believes in salvation by 100% correct doctrine. Notice how none of this effects how one follows Jesus or becomes changed by the Holy Spirit. Unless you have the correct doctrinal thoughts, the Fundamentalist Evan Jesus will damn you to hell for eternity. Who you are, what you do to follow Christ, or what you become apparently does not matter.
trencher7 4 months ago
Mormonism in a nutshell:
Self-serving, self-righteous, delusional, narcissistic, religious version of "Pikman", or "Little Big Planet".
protossenslaver 5 months ago
"in order to reach this exalted state of godhead a person must first become a good Mormon, paying a full 10% tithe......" Oh Oh got yah. Right there we see that it is all about the money. Religion needs to get out of the minds of people.
UnityAmongstChaos 5 months ago
This is coming 4rm a dude who was Mormon for 13 years then found the facts: I was depressed, had no dreams, no friends except for ONE who was not mormon. When I did the research, I went to Atheism and stayed there for 2 years. But then, I read a book called "In the Grip of Grace" by Max Lucado. And it changed my views of everything. So I did pray 2 God, and he has helped me plenty of times. So I do believe that Mormonism and Atheism is false, but I won't press charges against them. Now i'm happy
DragonFriend94 5 months ago
@DragonFriend94 how is atheism false?
Snarkathon 4 months ago
@Snarkathon I'm sorry if I offended you in anyway. But I just don't believe in just science anymore. I have plenty of atheist friends and they don't mind me being christian. I just don't believe that Atheism is true because God answered me plenty of times. But you can be anything you want. That's the beautiful thing about choice
DragonFriend94 4 months ago
@DragonFriend94 You didnt offend :) and yes, choice is a beautiful thing. Science is not to be believed, thats its beauty. You dont take someone elses word for something & scientists dont expect you to, they expect you to question, in fact want you to. You cant make claims that arent provable, eg. god spoke to you while in the same breath say "I dont believe in science" which allows you to write the message in the first place. Atheism is not a belief, its the default position to theism.
Snarkathon 4 months ago
Accurate Video. Mormon man is sorta like Superman. Mormon girls are goddess but only if their husbands like them on planet earth. Mormon man wakes up Mormon girl or she sleeps eternally. Like Snow white. Then she tosses litter after litter of babies. Call that a goddess if you like it... Question: What to do with the endless placenta. Can Vegetarians smother it in onions and eat it? We're talking about Mormonism so that's an important theological question.
IExposeMormonism 5 months ago
dum dum dum dum dum
ROSSYBYE 5 months ago
after years of understanding that the bible cant be true due to science's discoveries, this vid just shows me what a nut job i was following this religion crap, fuck it im going to die one day and i accept that, all that faith ever did was to let me lie to my self about reality.
jojo191519 5 months ago
Mormonism is an epic fail.
jalonzo31 5 months ago