You are are suppose to use either channels 2, 6 and 11 because they do not interfere with each other. If you use channel 3 for example it will interfere with channel 2 and channel 6. Each channel uses a 22 Mhz spectrum band which crosses over into other channels.
I have a wireless router for my phones and laptops and stuff, and I have a wireless card in my desktop in case I need it in the future, but I just ran a gigabit ethernet line from my office to my router (no coax in my office) and it wasn't hard at all.
Every pc, notebook, etc. do not take wifi signal the same way...by strengh or quality, at the same distance. Every pc is different...you have to use a channel that fits every pc that's gonna be used at home. I worked 9 years as a cable tech and every house is different, one pc or five in another, Iphones, tablets, consoles...and one channel could make 2 out of five work and another one 5 out 5...so a best channel???...depends.
One word : LOCATION...antennas, router/modem, even the location of the house matters, electric appliances(yours and other houses), building materials, ...but you cannot just pick a channel by checking other networks near.
chris, or anyone else is there anyway I could ask these guys a question about my modem? I seem to have a problem no one can answer... My router sometimes stops working for mobile devices after connecting to it, it works on all my computers, but after a little bit of being connected on a mobile device, all the apps that require internet connection do not load etc.
We have ADSL2+ because that's the fastest you can get here. 10MBPS is the fastest i've seen that (in a home) go. Plus we pay alot and get very little :( 40GB a month and I still go over, plus that's considered HEAPS here in New Zealand. And there is also software that can tell you what channels other netoworks around you are on so you make sure you don't pick one of those.
I'm in a small mountain town, with bad internet speeds. I am the "techie" in my family so I have to deal with all of my family's computers, as I type this I am looking at my mom's computer seeing "37/87 pictures uploaded- 90 minutes remaining" on Facebook. It was set to normal quality, and it is taking for ever just to upload some vacation photos. Don't take your Internet speed's for granite. It is really slow in some area's.
Test wireless channel speed at night when its not raining and low internet traffic. Wireless preforms better at these times so you might get more interference from other networks. When you test router placement shut doors to show the worst possible scenario.
If you can see heaps of networks with default names it might be a good idea to change channel. Also turn off protocols that are not being used, b, g, ect; try to only have one.
You should demonstrate inSSIDer. It is a very usefull piece of software that visualizes wireless networks near you by measuring signal strength and which channel they work on. I use it every time I set up a network for someone, to make sure that the network overlaps as little as possible with other networks.
For Mac users, iStumbler is a great little app that shows you stats about WiFi signals you're in range of. It has the brand, location, MAC address, channel, signal strength, amount of noise, the security type used. protocol (G/N for example), and of course, the name. It's really handy.
IS there a way of doing a benchmark but not local. like the speed of the modem transferring data. I know that the speeds aren't always consistent or accurate. Like speed test.net say's im getting 30mpbps when on wi-fi but i get some delay on COD Black ops rather then using an Ethernet cable where I'm getting no delay.
You should only really stick with 1, 6 or 11 because there is no overlap. This is particularly important for those of us that work in a corporate environment with a big WiFi system with mutliple access points. The problem comes when you live near near non-technical people who fiddle with it and fudge up channels 1 through 6 by choosing 4 or something. Generally I've never had a problem with my wireless network anyway, my clients sometimes do.
@aaronphil01 What channel do you choose when there are 32+ AP's on your neighborhood? I'd probably run DD-WRT and get channel 14 (but FCC won't be happy with it).
I used Tomato on my old Cisco Wireless-G Broadband Router, and it's better than the default firmware from the manufacturer. I like where Tomato can snoop other networks, and help me to decide the best configuration for my home networking platform. Tomato is the best I can do to the old router short of upgrading to Wireless-N. I get 54Mbps on wireless and 100Mbps on Ethernet. I'm connected to CenturyLink DSL through a bridged modem connection to my router.
+1 on Jake's suggestion of the WiFi channel sniffing tools - that's a much better way than benchmarking things. Look for a clear channel, and it will help a great deal.
Ofc that is the best option, but their is only 3 "clean" channels which are non overlapping (1, 6 and 11) and yes it depends on if you got any device that might on the same channel or live in apartment as they mentioned.
@lockergnome Oh yes, it's lovely. Especially when it goes down for 33 days before Verizon can figure out what's wrong. We could get 20mbps Time Warner cable for $8 a month more, but it's not available... on our SIDE OF THE STREET. It sucks man.
@NorCalExplorer I live in Chile...We have from 2mbits up/512down...6/512...15/1mbit and 40/2mbits...I think that the upload speed is awful...we use cable.
@lockergnome Tomato, by Polarcloud, is yet another alternative firmware for various broadcom-based network devices. Has some very handy features beyond the factory firmware. I use it particularly for WDS between routers but I also tweek'd the power level and port forwarding options are very nice.
They also mention ddwrt on their front page as well as other alternatives.
@lockergnome DD-WRT is a Linux based alternative OpenSource firmware that you can install on your wireless router and unleash is true capability. I took your average 40$ 802.11N router and overclocked the radio to almost 3 times its stock frequency. This increases the range of the router 2 times as far without connection drops.. You can also take a router with the DD-WRT firmware and create a reliable bridge or repeater for you existing home network.
so what they are saying is find a network software tool that can check out all the wifi routers near you and check what channel they are broadcasting on, and DO NOT pick that channel and your golden :).
@lockergnome most of them standard here in the uk like the bt home hub and stuff come on channel 11. so if you change it on after market router you will get less interference and have a better connection..
You are are suppose to use either channels 2, 6 and 11 because they do not interfere with each other. If you use channel 3 for example it will interfere with channel 2 and channel 6. Each channel uses a 22 Mhz spectrum band which crosses over into other channels.
pilatus421 2 months ago
Brandon rules!!
iAppleKing100 4 months ago
does that airport thingy he was talking about work people without internet providers?
superzyrous 5 months ago in playlist Hardware - Networking
I love you guys
nateso95 6 months ago
fios FTW
AndrewMacedonia 7 months ago
My internet connection only lags like on videos for example when i run 12 tabs on my browser & several applications on my computer for some reason.
rlmotionpictures 7 months ago
I find 11 is best :)
boxaify1 7 months ago
if you use a linux live CD you can run the command
sudo iwlist wlan0 scanning
and that will give you a list of all the wireless networks within range, along with which channel they run on and signal strength information
Person1873 8 months ago
I have a wireless router for my phones and laptops and stuff, and I have a wireless card in my desktop in case I need it in the future, but I just ran a gigabit ethernet line from my office to my router (no coax in my office) and it wasn't hard at all.
v12tommy 8 months ago
10 meg fiber for me hardwired to my router.
Rejzone 8 months ago
Ive gotten a 45 mbit dwnload and a 5.40 upload on my iphone on wireless
SOCALxMODZz 8 months ago
watching over a wired 125mbit connection.
Umbra360 8 months ago
Watching this on dial up, jk
Garyyx24 8 months ago
Every channel that i use doesn't change my performance at all. It's probably due that there aren't any wireless routers in my network..
madworldbestsong 8 months ago
I like your wallpaper, where did you get it?
Pjieter 8 months ago
6 on a BT HomeHub. Had no dropouts whatsoever.
thedarkness97 8 months ago
Watching this with 100 Mbit/s. Feels good man !
BloodvorteX7 8 months ago
A good program to test all of this is "Wirelessmon" Just google it. It may not be free but it has a 30day trial with was enough for what I needed.
turgo82 8 months ago
I'm watching this on 384k DSL, and I can say one thing, it sucks!
ChipperMist 8 months ago
Feels kind of awkward watching them like this. LOL
colinmreid 8 months ago
Every pc, notebook, etc. do not take wifi signal the same way...by strengh or quality, at the same distance. Every pc is different...you have to use a channel that fits every pc that's gonna be used at home. I worked 9 years as a cable tech and every house is different, one pc or five in another, Iphones, tablets, consoles...and one channel could make 2 out of five work and another one 5 out 5...so a best channel???...depends.
zwansaurio 8 months ago
One word : LOCATION...antennas, router/modem, even the location of the house matters, electric appliances(yours and other houses), building materials, ...but you cannot just pick a channel by checking other networks near.
zwansaurio 8 months ago
i found some space on chanel 8 :) its faster now :D
MrGameboy1989 8 months ago
looking at the WiFi around my house its 11,11,9,7,6,1,1
kickinghobo 8 months ago
I'm just not geek enough to understand this. I suck at trying to hook up a network.
PuyallupHero 8 months ago
chris, or anyone else is there anyway I could ask these guys a question about my modem? I seem to have a problem no one can answer... My router sometimes stops working for mobile devices after connecting to it, it works on all my computers, but after a little bit of being connected on a mobile device, all the apps that require internet connection do not load etc.
iColorado303 8 months ago
We have ADSL2+ because that's the fastest you can get here. 10MBPS is the fastest i've seen that (in a home) go. Plus we pay alot and get very little :( 40GB a month and I still go over, plus that's considered HEAPS here in New Zealand. And there is also software that can tell you what channels other netoworks around you are on so you make sure you don't pick one of those.
NZappletech 8 months ago
I'm in a small mountain town, with bad internet speeds. I am the "techie" in my family so I have to deal with all of my family's computers, as I type this I am looking at my mom's computer seeing "37/87 pictures uploaded- 90 minutes remaining" on Facebook. It was set to normal quality, and it is taking for ever just to upload some vacation photos. Don't take your Internet speed's for granite. It is really slow in some area's.
cateye27 8 months ago
I got 25MB/s on Wireless N dual band, it's pretty darn fast...I can stream this whole video in under a minute!
talldude123 8 months ago
These videos are so much better than "It's harder than It looks" ones
leoviper 8 months ago
I like that Brandon cat, looks neat.
lanceseidman 8 months ago
I use inssider 2.0 to stay away from everyone else for the best sig
bornwisedistruction 8 months ago
5ghz
ThePencil901 8 months ago
was is 2.4 ghz or 2.4mhz that microwaves run on because if its ghz then im being zapped... GAHHHH!!!
Blazah99 8 months ago
great info really helpfull these guys are great and know what theyre talkin about!
permanetmarker2004 8 months ago
Test wireless channel speed at night when its not raining and low internet traffic. Wireless preforms better at these times so you might get more interference from other networks. When you test router placement shut doors to show the worst possible scenario.
If you can see heaps of networks with default names it might be a good idea to change channel. Also turn off protocols that are not being used, b, g, ect; try to only have one.
unragamuf 8 months ago
My parents are switching to Comcast should I be happy about this?
AminaFilms 8 months ago
@AminaFilms nope
theoriginalmilenko 8 months ago
Does anyone know what Meraki is? I have a couple of them but have never really seen them used outside of my network.
macprorocks 8 months ago
Wifi Analyzer app on Android phones saves the day always when spoofing for the best channel and so :)
roxpace 8 months ago 4
@roxpace do you use the signal meter - beep option a lot? ;) I love that tool, why I love my android.. makes a perfect tricorder! :)
sumsinnow 8 months ago
@sumsinnow I love the signal meter as well, and I agree makes it to a WiFi tricorder ;)
roxpace 8 months ago
I like your background (completely unrelated comment ftw).
10tailedemonaruto 8 months ago
The guy on the left is an idiot
kmm0697 8 months ago
if i tell my mom that the access point is 2.4ghz like the microwave she's gonna trash the wifi LOL
falmatrix2r 8 months ago
Even T1 sucks now
WhelenVTXR2 8 months ago
Channel 14, freq. 2484 is the best.. Only if your in Japan.
tcpnet 8 months ago
@tcpnet And then only if your gateway/router/AP does 802.11b
ZacOnTV 8 months ago
u got pwned
MrCristuto 8 months ago
My speed is 200k.
Computeproductions 8 months ago
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zaafarj 8 months ago
You should demonstrate inSSIDer. It is a very usefull piece of software that visualizes wireless networks near you by measuring signal strength and which channel they work on. I use it every time I set up a network for someone, to make sure that the network overlaps as little as possible with other networks.
drblah 8 months ago
Duplicate Administrator
This device is managed by 192.168.2.4 currently!!
jtantonovich 8 months ago
What's with the bad audio quality?
CoreCyan 8 months ago
channel 14 ;D
alewisgb 8 months ago
Do these guys have YouTube channels?
ProgrammersWeb 8 months ago
For Mac users, iStumbler is a great little app that shows you stats about WiFi signals you're in range of. It has the brand, location, MAC address, channel, signal strength, amount of noise, the security type used. protocol (G/N for example), and of course, the name. It's really handy.
TalesOfWar 8 months ago
get an ubertooth one and go watch the segment on hak5
itouchhacker241 8 months ago
I knew this vid would come after the last one lol
TheMatt7000 8 months ago
I've it at channel 6.
Wiejeben 8 months ago
IS there a way of doing a benchmark but not local. like the speed of the modem transferring data. I know that the speeds aren't always consistent or accurate. Like speed test.net say's im getting 30mpbps when on wi-fi but i get some delay on COD Black ops rather then using an Ethernet cable where I'm getting no delay.
Century21CasaReal 8 months ago
Depending on the wattage of the microwave they produce a signal that is very similar to 802.11g and can cause interference.
Turbo187KillerB 8 months ago
You should only really stick with 1, 6 or 11 because there is no overlap. This is particularly important for those of us that work in a corporate environment with a big WiFi system with mutliple access points. The problem comes when you live near near non-technical people who fiddle with it and fudge up channels 1 through 6 by choosing 4 or something. Generally I've never had a problem with my wireless network anyway, my clients sometimes do.
aaronphil01 8 months ago
@aaronphil01 What channel do you choose when there are 32+ AP's on your neighborhood? I'd probably run DD-WRT and get channel 14 (but FCC won't be happy with it).
purpleravenstar 8 months ago
i keep my router in the microwave and it increases my speed and even more so with the microwave runnin
UncleMiyn 8 months ago
I used Tomato on my old Cisco Wireless-G Broadband Router, and it's better than the default firmware from the manufacturer. I like where Tomato can snoop other networks, and help me to decide the best configuration for my home networking platform. Tomato is the best I can do to the old router short of upgrading to Wireless-N. I get 54Mbps on wireless and 100Mbps on Ethernet. I'm connected to CenturyLink DSL through a bridged modem connection to my router.
hairyitalianFL 8 months ago
Looks like Bill and Ben TV show, just needs little weed inbetween :)
creativetux 8 months ago
tehy didnt say anything about the channel spanning that g and n does which
is why allot of them are set to 6
kakureru 8 months ago
+1 on Jake's suggestion of the WiFi channel sniffing tools - that's a much better way than benchmarking things. Look for a clear channel, and it will help a great deal.
- Jason
ThoughtsMedia 8 months ago
@ThoughtsMedia:
Ofc that is the best option, but their is only 3 "clean" channels which are non overlapping (1, 6 and 11) and yes it depends on if you got any device that might on the same channel or live in apartment as they mentioned.
AfrowThunder 8 months ago
i have a terabit network
mcmamac 8 months ago
@mcmamac Wireless?
spudw2k 8 months ago
some wifi routers can show a graph of how many AP's there are in the area, so you can check witch channels are busy or not
sciencetestsubject 8 months ago
@sciencetestsubject - Interesting.
lockergnome 8 months ago
watching this video over my 768k DSl right now lol... on 240p...and still freezing.
BeatlesFan32 8 months ago 38
@BeatlesFan32 - Oh no.
lockergnome 8 months ago 27
@lockergnome Oh yes, it's lovely. Especially when it goes down for 33 days before Verizon can figure out what's wrong. We could get 20mbps Time Warner cable for $8 a month more, but it's not available... on our SIDE OF THE STREET. It sucks man.
BeatlesFan32 8 months ago
@BeatlesFan32 thats weird my friend has dsl and its as fast as my at&t cabel
joeldude76 8 months ago
@BeatlesFan32 wow
jordinjm 8 months ago
@BeatlesFan32 You think that's bad? sometimes my 24 mb cable connection would freeze on 360p
Kidcouger2 8 months ago
@BeatlesFan32 720p, no lag (: but unreliable :(
drumpounder778 8 months ago
@BeatlesFan32 I'm not alone then my conection is 512kbps and thats a "b" not a "B" and the worst is that i pay $30 a month for it :(
8KrepE7 8 months ago
@BeatlesFan32 wow, I live in the mountains and our cable speed is 6mbs/s down and 1mb/s up. Where do you live to get that speed of dsl?
NorCalExplorer 8 months ago
@NorCalExplorer I live in Chile...We have from 2mbits up/512down...6/512...15/1mbit and 40/2mbits...I think that the upload speed is awful...we use cable.
zwansaurio 8 months ago
@BeatlesFan32 Upgrade your internet!
puunakki 8 months ago
@BeatlesFan32 y not use ppva, it's a video accelerator. it's not spedbit but it's kind of work 4 me.
yus123 8 months ago
@BeatlesFan32 your lucky. I'm on 526k DSL :(
AndrewHume1 8 months ago
@BeatlesFan32 Holy shit
twistnturn44 8 months ago
under 200 club!
XeonTechHD 8 months ago 2
there is no way these guys are straight....
iurea848 8 months ago
@iurea848 its their job, they r just smart... they dont look gay at all
yuriperiotto 8 months ago
@yuriperiotto your gaydar is broken.....just look how they look at eachother .....
iurea848 8 months ago
Sexy
MrNDUDE16 8 months ago 2
@MrNDUDE16 - Oh my.
lockergnome 8 months ago
They look like they could be twins lol
BeatlesFan32 8 months ago 2
@BeatlesFan32 - I don't see it.
lockergnome 8 months ago 2
ddwrt is the best was to expand and strengthen your wireless network.
NerdHelpDesk 8 months ago
@NerdHelpDesk I like tomato firmware
spudw2k 8 months ago
@spudw2k - Tell me more.
lockergnome 8 months ago
@lockergnome Tomato, by Polarcloud, is yet another alternative firmware for various broadcom-based network devices. Has some very handy features beyond the factory firmware. I use it particularly for WDS between routers but I also tweek'd the power level and port forwarding options are very nice.
They also mention ddwrt on their front page as well as other alternatives.
spudw2k 8 months ago
@NerdHelpDesk - Please expand on that.
lockergnome 8 months ago
@lockergnome DD-WRT is a Linux based alternative OpenSource firmware that you can install on your wireless router and unleash is true capability. I took your average 40$ 802.11N router and overclocked the radio to almost 3 times its stock frequency. This increases the range of the router 2 times as far without connection drops.. You can also take a router with the DD-WRT firmware and create a reliable bridge or repeater for you existing home network.
NerdHelpDesk 8 months ago
2nd???
MrSeraphax 8 months ago
I use Wifi just for phones, everything else is on gigabit network, amazingly fast home sharing!
TheGregaM 8 months ago
@TheGregaM - I bet.
lockergnome 8 months ago
so what they are saying is find a network software tool that can check out all the wifi routers near you and check what channel they are broadcasting on, and DO NOT pick that channel and your golden :).
Amishje 8 months ago 12
@Amishje - That's pretty much it.
lockergnome 8 months ago 4
@lockergnome most of them standard here in the uk like the bt home hub and stuff come on channel 11. so if you change it on after market router you will get less interference and have a better connection..
johnnylimb94 8 months ago
@lockergnome These guys are good. Do they have a youtube account that I can subscribe to???
twomod77 8 months ago 14
@lockergnome Can you recommend a tool to check what channel to use?
evil420thug 8 months ago
@lockergnome - Why do you make "-'s" everytime you respond?
Umbra360 8 months ago
deja vu
spudw2k 8 months ago
I barely use wifi anymore.
xXZarlachXx 8 months ago
@xXZarlachXx
ah.. forgot... I have my iphone 4 connected to the wifi :D
xXZarlachXx 8 months ago
@xXZarlachXx - Smart move, especially if you're on a limited data plan.
lockergnome 8 months ago
@xXZarlachXx - Very interesting.
lockergnome 8 months ago
1st!
Eddiiiieeee 8 months ago
What are your wireless tips? Do you know any tricks that can help strengthen the connection?
lockergnome 8 months ago
@lockergnome I'm 1 feet away from my rooter :D no needs :D
Francisco19734 8 months ago