Why does doing the right thing have to hurt so much?

[psmcbrayer]

When we are prisoners of our conscience, when we see a different path for ourselves...there will be those who disagree, or even have an agenda to protect. What I cannot understand about the Mormon perspective is the concept of atonement through baptism of the dead (proxy baptism)...this implies openly that redemption is a possibility outside of the person's lifetime, therefore, there is no need to isolate and reject people who disagree. Supposedly Christ is able to minister in the Spirit World

[PlanetGibbon1]

hi nathan

im so sad of how you feel and how the church has treated you.

but please and i know you wont agree, G-D is not the propblem it has always been peopke, religions, and huge corporate organisations using G-Ds name like the mormon church. i feel so so sad of how things turned out and youir family hopfully will figure out soon that thinking your dead to them is just silly not ment in a bad way x

i wish you and your family all the best. caz

[Nutmeg1113]

I know how you feel Nathan..I left the Mormon church also, and my mom cried, thinking i'm going to "hell" or whatever it is they believe..and yet it's sad to watch because (even though you and I have different beliefs, they come out the same) i know they won't make it to heaven, and you know that nothng will happen to them..or whatever athiests believe (sorry, i don't know exactly what they believe :/) but it's hard because the church makes you feel guilt in your own family they do it on purpose

[vcomp1960]

Your dad is a big boy. He'll survive!

[mininitacute]

I followed your blog and I know you said you became an atheist,please feel free to do it, me in my case still believe jesus is the one and only,cause he said it clearly:I'm the way, the truth and the life nobody gets to the father but through me.This is my main opinion on why I should leave this church...the prophet ,etc does not fit into what jesus told us.I could keep going on my reasons...including the abraham stuff(polygamy)david(dancing naked,etc)...etc.I admire you for doing this,peace!

[mininitacute]

the way this is working from their point of view even becomes a contradiction of one of their main principles:"families are forever...family is the base of God's plan...really?where does this apply to You with their attitude?they are putting religious beliefes on top of YOU who are supposed to be part of that big family they claim to be...I'm sorry about this.I hope one day they remember that love one another does not fit someone's life only when they share the same religion,it should be always

[Takedownman]

When you leave you are dead to them take it from some one who knows! You will have no one from the church back you or befriend you. You are pretty much dead to every one in the church, family included! I have been going through this as well bro and it sucks!

[kaminarigaston]

Religion: What's the harm?

This is the harm. And it's not the worst case scenario.

[stecejo]

act like a groun men not a sissy lolo all i said thout the video was hahahahahahaha you stupid bag of nothing

[shotdownsoul]

Hey Bud, don't worry man. Everything works out in the end. Best of luck.

[Kilstryke]

I am TrueNorth15's brother. He slept over last night as planned and spent the day at our house with his family. We all opened our gifst and ate our turkey and the only "incident" was when the tree got over watered and some gifts had to be re-wrapped. We have all had a very peaceful family holiday gathering.

I know we don't all see eye-to-eye, but I do appreciate the concern many of you have shown for my brother. Whatever happens, he is still ours and will remain so.

[OneTrueChurch]

Hey, I'm Catholic and I support prop 8 and oppose gay marraige but I hate the fact that Mormons (and Jehovah's Witnesses) drive families apart and turn people against eachother

[PhilipEbanks]

I'm also a Catholic, but it should be obvious that ALL religion divides people, you idiot.

[AceTheBathound]

Be strong, TrueNorth15...

Religion only weakens and destroys...

Swear like a man, next time...

Fracking, is not a good old fashioned, heartfelt FUCK, FUCKED or FUCKING!!!!!!

Any further questions?

[StarMagick]

:-( I know it's so hard! Our path is the one less traveled my friend.. but those who walk unworn paths do find the rarest of the flowers.. you remember that :-)

[doctorrin]

Damn bro.

that's brutal. but this is about unpacking your mind to live soundly in this world.

I have gone thru and CONTINUE to go thru the divide that happens when a son leaves the religious beliefs of what his parents have provided.

Hate to say it, but somebody's gonna shed tears in these tough situations. If it's not your parents, it would be you in the agony of staying in a small fish bowl.

Let this bullshit in life give you perspective, not dissent.

[TrueNorth15]

Thank you everyone I truly derive strength from your comments

[AceTheBathound]

That's too bad, TrueNorth15... Mine were Roman Catholics... They were also quite fanatic about that... I have baggage from way back that I still pack around, and I can't get rid of. This is the doing of a Church that believes in doing good, and right?

This is the doing of a Church that loves everybody unconditionally? Shit.

What bullshit...

[stecejo]

u r a good for nothing bag of shit so groun so balls and quit filling sorrey for a jackass

[BENY0HAMA]

I'm pretty sure I left a comment on this before...

I'm sending you my thoughts of well wishes. I'm sorry this happened, and I hope your parents get over this and you can mend your relationship.

[bubonicnate]

You are a good guy, I hope things work out.

[cavejourney]

Nathan - you are a brave and wonderful man. I wish I had words of wisdom but I don't. I'm very sorry that you are going through this.

[palmtreez101]

I will never forget the look on my mother's face when I told her I could never believe in god ever again.

I don't know what to say to make feel better or for your parents to understand better, but I can't think of anything. Hopefully things will turn out better for you all.

[philhellenes]

Hard to watch, but out of respect for your pain I had to. I have a saying - "The right thing is almost always the difficult thing". Can't say anything you've experienced persuades my of its falsehood. Sigh. Wish I could help, do something, say something. I've had hard times. I've broken down before. In such times I sit in the flames and let them burn, and hold on to one thought - the fire WILL go out, and I will remain. Your strength is inspiring.

[VoicesintheHead]

Your video is proof of how religion hurts people. It divides families, it creates violence. Nothing good can come out of religion. Nothing good can come out of blind faith. You said it yourself!

[VoicesintheHead]

Nathan,

It is not only your church. It is every single religion out there. It is very hard to break away from it, especially when family is an issue. Trust me. I've had the very same issues with my family.

Stop blaming yourself, IT IS NOT YOUR FAULT.

Take care TN.

[2bsirius]

It is so sad to see such well-intentioned people, like your mother, who think they are doing something to help you. It is so hard to remain strong in a situation like this. Maybe it's best to go to the family Christmas and just avoid the subject...

Yes, I'm advocating non-confrontation. They love you. You love them. Just talk about things that are non-threatening. Your family need to see that love for a child is unconditional...Everyone would be happier if you could be WHO YOU TRULY ARE! PEACE

[ivarbt]

I'm so sorry to hear what you are going thru, Nathan. Will be thinking about you this xmas. Take care.

[Kcfilms5]

You stood by your beleifs and morals despite your families religion.. man i couldnt do that.

I have no idea what it is like but i feel for you man... hurts to see you sad like this.

Religion shouldnt force people apart like this. a loving god? pfft. God is an asshole. That or he doesnt exist.

[musicisthegateway]

I feel for ya man. Though I can't relate. You are a great man, Nathan. Bold with a big heart. If you want you can spend Christmas with my family.

And on future happy videos? "Do or do not, there is no try." - jedi proverb

[TheGrammarian]

Hugs and loves for my big hairy teddy bear. =)

From the both of us, man, Bri and myself, we fuckin' love you. I've never met someone so ethically principled as you. You rule.

[GodoftheGeeks]

I feel for you. I am going through something very similar but not quite like that. My parents and grandparents mourn for me thinking I won't be with them in heaven.

Try to keep you chin up despite the hardships, tough times don't last forever.

[GodoftheGeeks]

Sorry for the horrendous spacing

Nice WoW shirt by the way...

[CousinoMacul]

It's hard when What's morally right goes up against your family. I don't envy you at all. I've never been put into that situation the way you have. I'm so sorry!

[theqmogvlogs]

Nathan, I am so sorry that taking a stand against something you believe is wrong is causing you such pain... in essence the pain it is causing, the hurt your parents feel, the hurt in you, the damage to family is the same pain you sought to stand up against in telling the church they were wrong to hurt and separate those who wished to be family.

I wish I had words for you but there are none of good comfort, save a hug and a thought. And I wish it was more.

[IdleGod]

This video is hard to watch. I really feel for you. I don't know how you feel, but I can imagine it is not good. For what its worth, from the sounds of it, you aren't dead to your parents. They seem to still want you in their life. Your next step is to keep an open relationship, and if they can't deal with your lack of belief, make it taboo to talk about. And I don't think the church is "evil"; they genuinely believe what they say, and aren't maliciously lying to their members.

[happyjesus123]

So they "genuinely believe" in denying Gays human rights. So how is this different from the Nazi "genuinely believing" in deny Jews human rights. Nathan made a difficult and courageous decision.

[IdleGod]

I'm not saying its right, merely that they believe they are doing right. I am sure there are a few left who are doing it out of malice, but the church and its followers are not. That is, the correct course of action is education, and not a "war" of sorts. Although, sometimes that education sometimes needs a war. In any case, I hope things end up well for him and his family. And I hope he has the strength in his resolve to be honest about his atheism.