Are These Artists "Urban": Jessie J, Ed Sheeran, JLS, Adele, Cher Lloyd [UK DEBATE]

[TheOrangegloves]

chuckie is a midget 9:30

[Mbryty]

RnB = Rhythm n Blues (20 years ago)

RnB = Rave n Bash (Present)

Its so sad since times have changed :(

[KidFozzie]

sirens...... typical uk haha!

[Tygabone]

@Covcentralent I know hes black i was being facesious! His skin problem was due to the bleaching cream he was using

[rizzy420og]

but in general i like th u.k version of jump off the the other one

[rizzy420og]

that nigga had one to many wine coolers i think hes buggin

[sychowalker]

Bet these guys haven't even listened to all of these Artist's Albums.

And if they haven't, then they not to Criticize unt'll they do.

Simple.

[sychowalker]

Bet these guys haven't even listened to all of these Artist's Albums.

[sychowalker]

Have any of these guys listened to all of these Artist Albums?

Cause if they haven't then they don't have the right to Criticize.

[southboysouth1]

loooooool @ 9:31

[MrAloo14]

no little mix are all pricks lol

[callofdutyaddict1000]

If i was to put them in order of 'urban-ness' this would be my order.. number 1 being most urban and 5 being least..

1. Ed Sheeran

2. Jessie J

3. Adele

4 Cher Lloyd

5. JLS

[ysoljers]

im starting to prefer these debates over the US 1nz

[Tygabone]

@MzKGeneration i agree, when a black person makes a POP song its called Urban JLS, Jason Derulo, Flo Rida, Taio Cruz, Rhianna, Black Eyed Peas anyone on David Guetta 'nothing but the beat' album, Tinchy Stryda, Chipmunk(first album) N-Dubz and all the acts on that wall makes POP music but they are in the Urban charts

[PACEkid1]

Tell english frank to calm down LOL

[MzKGeneration]

on tv "urban chart" basically if youre black youre in it, like if katy perry and rihanna switched songs then it'd still be rihanna on the "urban" chart cos shes black

[Tygabone]

Urban aints black in the same way Michael Jackson aint black - its an illusion of course its black, dont insult peoples inteligence

[Covcentralent]

@Tygabone Micheal is black he had a skin problem

[DavidVilla2]

urban aint gothin to do with black people. All of them are just known by people on the urban scene their music aint distinctly urban tho

[omd0]

poet always goes off topic ...

[RevengeIsScorpion]

yall should publicly apologize to boyz2men

[balla712]

thumbs up if you thought that girls turtle neck was her neck with some rolls

[shineyK9]

big up to the nigga drinkin the smurnoff

[H2T]

heres the thing about Pink. she started making R&B then made Rock which are her roots and either way her music from day 1 was/is always good!

[MrAloo14]

tinie tempah n dubz anit. as the the top comment said urban is just pure marketing bullshit ed sherran got big frm sbtv my eyes are red ting n his mixtape with ghetts etc. MJ is the king of pop ,yeah his still Our music

[MrAloo14]

if adele anit `urban` then yasmin n emily sandi anit

[DeclanFlan95]

CHER LLOYD

[Bbopflav212]

Just because you sing R&B doesn't make you urban.

[CityStyle3]

How the hell is Ed Sheeran not urban!!?? Look at who features on The No. 5 Collaborations Project. Devlin, Wiley, Dot Rotten, JME, Wretch 32, Random Inpulse, Sway, Ghetts, P-Money, Mikill Pane. Are they urban? Yes. Ed did songs with them and others. You Need Me, I Don't You is a rap song so yes. Ed Sheeran is urban.

[joeunderwood10]

Ed sheeran can't be put n a category he mixes all kinds of genres plus he's a musician I'd be surprised if anyone other than Adel can play an instrument

[jeystonemusic]

No..they are 'shite'

[jackieblam]

ed sheeran has grime influences, how is that not urban? are you guys mad

[koromamohamed]

Poet is 1 character I'd cry out of laughter talking to

[coled7lan]

fuck this urban bullshit.

The dictionary definition is basically a highly populated area, in other other words not being rural.

urban - london,manchestermbirmingham etc not urban is some next woods up in the sticks

[Tygabone]

How did the brum girl compare MishaB to Cher Lloyd? Cher Lloyd is real in a Vanilla Ice kinda way. If Cher had MishaBs talent white people would be FULLY GASSED make no mistake, some people need to wake up man

[TheSipedon]

And you can say an artists ‘soulful’ voice is defined by the instrumentals he/she sings over?. Which brings me back to my point – who can define the genre of music (and therefore its ‘urbaness’) when so much music is mixed up. But yeah… let me stop this is a deep debate lol

[TheSipedon]

My point is I think Urban is a term to be used loosely at the listeners discretion and as far as the gatekeepers what to define it take no notice cause half the time you already know what music and artists you want to listen to regardless of what the radio presenter calls ‘urban’ , if didn’t know anything about artists but knew you liked rock music what would you have thought of Jay-Z at Glastonbury? Because yeah he rapped but he didn’t exactly go for his Reasonable Doubt vibe did he?

[skillsla]

Teef speaks the most sense out of everyoe in every debate.

[Tygabone]

Real recognise real - when Dizzee Chipmunk Tinchy and N-Dubz started being POP everything flopped because everyone was too busy patting each others back at getting signed but not realising they all signed their souls away!

[suckyamudda1]

I rate all you lot, bring alot to the table and got good points. Exept for poet he's overly annoying and dont even no what hes going on about.

[rudedj]

DJ Snips cracked me up.. "Fuck off ..Cher lloyds not urban .. She disgusts me I'm sorry". Any way. This urban title is bullshit and designed to blur the definition of black music so they can put remotely similar sounding music in there and sell it. There fore this discussion is valid .. Fun too . Is poet drunk btw

[solreavir]

@rudedj Your Goddamn Right! No Joke I Hate that urban Title bullshit to many artist using R/b and hip hop beats trying to get into markets that dont reflect them!

[sychowalker]

Seems the guy in the red top connects with it on a lyrical Level.

[faithchildtv]

Lemme just start off by saying that i LOVE all your debates!! You have well rounded contributors.

Firstly, what are we calling Urban? Here in the UK, it has been marketed as music by Black people. When Romeo went into the Big Brother house they called him a Urban Rapper/MC -_-

Looking at the industry, UK wise, its as if Blacks have to be whites and whites have to be blacks to do well. Eg: You think Do It Like A Dude would have been pushed it a Black British chick sang that!?

[washclassics]

does it even matter if they are urban or not.. are there not bigger fish to fry in this world? I'm jus askin'.... Blah Blah!!

[jwalker01]

A blur can appear between pop and urban because every 21st century pop artist has been influenced in some way by 'urban' music. For example, Cher Lloyd and Rizzle Kicks rap on their records but their sound and audiences are inherently pop. Every artist in this debate ticks one or more of the invisible boxes that might class them as 'urban' but would not be the word used to describe any of these artists.

[WePlugGOODMusicTV]

NO Adele is NOT Urban, She's an R&B/Soul artist!

NO Ed Sheeran is NOT Urban, He's an Acoustic/Folk artist!

NO Jessie J is NOT Urban, She's a Pop artist!

NO Cher Lloyd is NOT Urban, She's a Pop artist!

If "Urban" is R&B/Hip-Hop/Soul/Reggae then Adele can be said to be "Urban" but "urban" is a simply bullshit marketing term, keep it moving!

[TheSipedon]

@WePlugGOODMusicTV I understand your point to an extent. But on the other hand what your saying is actually a contradiction what is Pop?, what is Folk?, what is Soul & RnB ? Legit musical genres that are not ever used in the current industry as 'bullshit marketing terms' ? I think not….... Music genres are becoming so intertwined these days it is hard to ‘officially’ draw a line between them. At what point was Elvis rock pop or soul?

[DITV2010]

@WePlugGOODMusicTV THANK YOU!

and nowadays they use that term for "black music" stereo type

[omd0]

@WePlugGOODMusicTV haahahahahahahahahah KILLED IT WITH ONE COMMENT ! (the rest of you sit down )

[Tygabone]

The word Urban actually reminds me of the word Coloured and its a pretty lazy term, FloRida, Jason Derulo and Taio Cruz should be on that list too

[Tygabone]

Type 'Urban Culture' into wikipedia its a euphamism for (African american) culture in the US and (AfroCaribbean) culture in the UK - I had this agument the other day about the industry packaging David Guettas music as urban, i would argue the demographic the euphemism is applied to would disagree

[rjbel88]

cher lloyd is 18 19 in july not 16 u dumbass