@THX11386079SmithW Not sure which guy you're referring to. Maybe highlight him on a frame from one of the clips stabilised relative to the background (see the other clips on this channel, particularly 001-257 and 198-301).
@johncostella he is fully visible in frame 227 and very clear in frame 228. He is wearing a white shirt and waving in the middle of the frame on the bottom.
@THX11386079SmithW Oh that guy! Isn't that "the Cuban"? (Seen from other photos.)
Interestingly, the clear frame published in the Memorial Edition of LIFE weeks after the assassination shows his fingers in a "V". The other frames tend to smudge that out.
Much has been speculated about this guy, and what he might have been doing or signalling.
Apologies for my slowness in picking up which guy you meant. Does this help?
If you watch closely, or search-up an enlarged slow-motion version, EVERYONE in the vehicle moves briefly forward. Why would they do that? Because, even as many witnesses reported, the driver abruptly stopped the vehicle.
There was actually more to be seen between the time of the forward motion and the point at which the fatal wound was incurred.
Between z-311-- z315, concentrate just beyond the President head and look at the grass. Am I seeing that right, it looks like a bullet hits the grass and spewes dirt up.
The government says that he was shot from behind in the neck then the head by Oswald, but when he is shot, his head flys back from the impact instead of forward.
@DangerousDog18 Don't watch JFK, watch Gov Connally. Connally said he turned to look over his right shoulder and then as he was turning back to look over his left shoulder, he was knocked over by the force of the bullet to his back.
If you watch Connally, you see him bent over AFTER JFK is shot in the head. Could the solution to the crime of the century be this simple? Of course it is.
Then you ask, WHY ARE THEY LYING? The answer to that question is just as simple.
@DangerousDog18 Place a basketball on the floor. Raise your hand, and with a chopping motion at 45 degrees (elevated shooting platform) strike the top of the basketball. The ball will travel 'backwards'... in the direction of the force. Simple physics. No conspiracies. One shooter. You're welcome.
its human nature to believe in secret societies because its human nature to create them. You had cliques in high school, right? Now add connections and money. Btw, anyone who believes Oswald hit JFK is an idiot. Sure, he was up there, but seriously, no sane person who's looked at all the evidence can think this wasnt a two or three person hitter team.
u can see he grabs his chest and then a few moments later his head jerks backward and completely flies off his body. his wife said she was climbing over the end of the car to get the head, but the truth is actually that she was so scared and just acted on instinct. the man climbing on the back of the car is the secret service. a medium had actually noted the SS that JFK would be shot later that day, but the SS claimed they didn't have enough intelligence to act on.
When I first saw the film (decades ago), I thought it odd that Jackie should clamber on to the back of the limo.. I first thought that she might have been trying to assist Clint onto the vehicle, however apparently (from her testimony) she was retrieving part of JFK's skull and/or brain
then he suddenly becomes nervous in front of the shop, avoiding cops?
even if he did shoot the cop, he was running for his life from the maffia!
he had been trying to kill the fascist General Edwin Walker couple of months back, so that gave the CIA/FBI maffia plenty of time to come up with a plan of how to set Lee up!
Lee himself was involved somehow, but i think even he didnt know the real plot.
the fact that everyone ducked after the headshot says clearly that it came from around them, not far behind.
too bad that kennedy didnt duck into the cabrio after the first shot :s
+its really weird that the governor, the driver, nor the security did nothing after the first 2 shots!
controlled all the way...
a police officer witness said that after the shots, he saw Harvey sitting quietly in the dining room, not even sweaty nor breathing heavily and not even nervous!!!!
@HumanityWins Is it also weird that Mrs. Kennedy just sat there staring at him? If there was anybody who could do anything to save him, it was her -- she was sitting right next to him! So I take it she's also a part of the Systemic Conspiracy, along with the SS, DPD, CIA, FBI, KGB, WC, HSCA, Mob, Castro, Che, Zapruder, LBJ, GWB, etc.?
Exactly! They didn't expect it -- it took everybody by complete surprise, otherwise JFK wouldn't have paraded around major cities in open limos! It happened in ~9 seconds. None of them in their wildest dreams thought somebody would be so depraved and cold-blooded as to shoot the Pres in the head.
I actually somewhat agree about the notion of a "secret society" -- an elite group that "runs things." However I don't believe they were the cause of JFK's death.
they were actually. notice how there are never a trial for the lone killers. they would speak the truth if they arent killed.
they also "run things" actually. see a documentary about Silvio Berlusconi - it's called "Videocracy". (it might not be on the internet yet though).
i used the term "secret societies" because they are only 'secret' because mainstream media doesnt talk about them. they are actually real and really run things!
I used to suspect there was a conspiracy involved with JFK, but not anymore. The evidence is just too overwhelming against LHO. However, it has only been recently that I've learned what his real motive was (hint: it wasn't what the WC, HSCA or the ABC Jennings Special ascribed, and let me say, truth sometimes IS stranger than fiction).
LHO was a driven, politically motivated, pro-Castro radical, not the clueless idiot he has been portrayed as. He was well-read on left-wing propaganda, and considered himself a revolutionary (and not a "poser" either). Consider that from his perspective (i.e., one aligned w Castro/Che), JFK, the American President, was no different to him than someone like Nixon (whom he also set out to assassinate at one point before his wife stopped him). LHO was a revolutionary.
@The9Nazgul LHO was a spy. A spy's modus operandi is to take on certain characteristics to ingratiate himself with the group to be infiltrated (e.g. pose as a Marxist-Leninist and join a pro-Castro revolutionary group). That's the whole point of a spy, to get you to believe they are something they aren't You don't think there's CIA men posing as Al-quaeda or whatever today? It appears LHO was a stunningly successful spy going by those who still trot out the 'he was a commie' crap even today.
@TonyBananas101 That's funny, as I am merely taking him at face value, considering the cumulative weight of his documented actions and his own words. And what purpose would the CIA have for a "communist-spy" in New Orleans and Dallas anyway?
What rather appears is that LHO was a stunningly underestimated individual who was way ahead of his time, even in the reckoning of those who still trot out the crap that he was either (a) a loser dimwit, (b) an "innocent patsy," or (c) a "brilliant spy."
@The9Nazgul How did the government plan to frame innocent people as described in the Operation Northwoods documents to "develop a false flag Communist Cuban terror campaign in the Miami area, in other Florida cities and even in Washington." The 1962 plan was drafted by the US Joint Chiefs of Staff. It was rejected by JFK. You think they didn't already have the capacity to do pull this off in Dallas in 1963? You don't think they already had agents and patsies already on the ground?
@TrueNovice JFK was a member of an obscenely wealthy family, who not only controlled wealth, but also political power. Why should I for 1 moment believe that any sinister self-interest on the part of "Joints Chiefs of Staff" (who, BTW, serve at the pleasure of the President) could be any worse than any self-interest on the part of the Kennedy family? It is one thing for a gov agency to act covertly against an enemy of the US -- it's another altogether to attempt this against the agency's leader.
The Joint Chiefs planned to attack and kill Americans to blame it on Cuba. Maybe American citizens are the enemy? It factually documented in the White House tapes that there was intense hostility between the members of the joints chiefs and JFK. JFK rejected their plans for false terror attacks on US citizens for a pretext for invading Cuba, JFK rejected plans for a pre-emptive nuclear strike on the Soviet Union, He rejected plans for an expansion of American involvement in Vietnam.
@TrueNovice Sorry, but I don't believe ANY of that hogwash for 1 millisecond. To quote Bill Clinton: "How dare you?" So, we have the narrative that it's Saint JFK versus the Joint Chiefs, who were phantom menace Sith Lords. JFK needed no "pretext" for invading Cuba -- Cuba was Communist and openly hostile to the USA. The USSR, w the help of its pawn Cuba, was the one planning the preemptive strike w missiles located just off the US coast. All of this being immaterial to the crime scene.
@The9Nazgul There is no need for you to believe anything. You can read the documents on the National Security Web site at George Washington University, but your too closed minded to impartially review the facts, but someone else reading this can do so. BTW JFK would need at least 2 approved miracles to be a declared a saint, so he may not be a saint and I never said he was. But who knows? If you judge a man by his enemies, he seems to be a pretty good guy, but maybe not a saint.
he got shot in the chest 2 times then in the head look at his head explode brutal but the head explodes like the 2nd shooter was standing at the side of the book depository on the ground not in it on the 6th floor if oswald was in the book place he wouldv killed the driver oswald got the 1st 2 shots the 2nd gunner got the final brain hit from the book place on ground level look at the brain spatter it lands infront of the driver and the police guy at that angle oswalds shot wouldnt of done that
Anyone else notice that the guy in the white shirt waving at 0:05 appears out of nowhere and that his appearance coincides with Connally' hat flip?
THX11386079SmithW 1 week ago
@THX11386079SmithW Not sure which guy you're referring to. Maybe highlight him on a frame from one of the clips stabilised relative to the background (see the other clips on this channel, particularly 001-257 and 198-301).
Cheers
johncostella 1 week ago
@johncostella he is fully visible in frame 227 and very clear in frame 228. He is wearing a white shirt and waving in the middle of the frame on the bottom.
THX11386079SmithW 6 days ago
@THX11386079SmithW Oh that guy! Isn't that "the Cuban"? (Seen from other photos.)
Interestingly, the clear frame published in the Memorial Edition of LIFE weeks after the assassination shows his fingers in a "V". The other frames tend to smudge that out.
Much has been speculated about this guy, and what he might have been doing or signalling.
Apologies for my slowness in picking up which guy you meant. Does this help?
johncostella 6 days ago
@theorioleguy. Then why did his blood and brains spaltter backwards also.
DangerousDog18 1 month ago
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Frames of the film were removed.
If you watch closely, or search-up an enlarged slow-motion version, EVERYONE in the vehicle moves briefly forward. Why would they do that? Because, even as many witnesses reported, the driver abruptly stopped the vehicle.
There was actually more to be seen between the time of the forward motion and the point at which the fatal wound was incurred.
shortist2003 2 months ago
watch that driver
loafybrown 3 months ago
@loafybrown What about him?
monsteripolo 1 month ago
head asplode
wokeupthismorning100 4 months ago
Between z-311-- z315, concentrate just beyond the President head and look at the grass. Am I seeing that right, it looks like a bullet hits the grass and spewes dirt up.
shahrdar 4 months ago
@shahrdar you must be confusing that with the blast from his skull
DCUPtoejuice 3 months ago
Kennedy-was-shot-from-inside-the-trunk.The-shooter-shot-hit-Kennedy-then
the-bullet-hit-connolly.Then-other-shooters-were-to-create-gun-shots-to-frame-Oswald.Then-the-shooter-in-the-trunk-changed-his-angle-and-shot-Kennedy-in-the-head.The-exit-wound-can-be-seen-on-frame-313.Jackie
-said-she-thought-the-shot-came-from-inside-the-car.Not-everyone-involved
-knew-there-was-a-shooter-in-the-car.Maybe-most-of-the-ones-involved-thought-Kennedy-would-be-shot,but-didn't-know-about-the-trunk-shooter.
amerikaiscommunist 5 months ago
*write revolutionary legislation, take convertable car ride in Dallas.
JoeytheWise 6 months ago
but he still didnt deserve to have his head blown apart
MeesterCrumpet 10 months ago
The government says that he was shot from behind in the neck then the head by Oswald, but when he is shot, his head flys back from the impact instead of forward.
DangerousDog18 1 year ago 2
@DangerousDog18 Don't watch JFK, watch Gov Connally. Connally said he turned to look over his right shoulder and then as he was turning back to look over his left shoulder, he was knocked over by the force of the bullet to his back.
If you watch Connally, you see him bent over AFTER JFK is shot in the head. Could the solution to the crime of the century be this simple? Of course it is.
Then you ask, WHY ARE THEY LYING? The answer to that question is just as simple.
No mystery, just lies.
SCGATOR2001 1 year ago
@DangerousDog18 which is what would happen if he was shot from behind
iamamangina 7 months ago
@DangerousDog18 Place a basketball on the floor. Raise your hand, and with a chopping motion at 45 degrees (elevated shooting platform) strike the top of the basketball. The ball will travel 'backwards'... in the direction of the force. Simple physics. No conspiracies. One shooter. You're welcome.
theorioleguy 3 months ago
His right side of his head peels off! That's gross!
DangerousDog18 1 year ago
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teshuvahwon 1 year ago
I like how the police in the motorcycles seem to have to slam there brakes on like the limousine was slowing down or something.
JoeytheWise 1 year ago
its human nature to believe in secret societies because its human nature to create them. You had cliques in high school, right? Now add connections and money. Btw, anyone who believes Oswald hit JFK is an idiot. Sure, he was up there, but seriously, no sane person who's looked at all the evidence can think this wasnt a two or three person hitter team.
GreatGooglieWooglie 1 year ago
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Freekchild 1 year ago
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snoohatesyou 1 year ago
lmfao you fucking conspiracy theorists
snoohatesyou 1 year ago
u can see he grabs his chest and then a few moments later his head jerks backward and completely flies off his body. his wife said she was climbing over the end of the car to get the head, but the truth is actually that she was so scared and just acted on instinct. the man climbing on the back of the car is the secret service. a medium had actually noted the SS that JFK would be shot later that day, but the SS claimed they didn't have enough intelligence to act on.
Jayolette 1 year ago
When I first saw the film (decades ago), I thought it odd that Jackie should clamber on to the back of the limo.. I first thought that she might have been trying to assist Clint onto the vehicle, however apparently (from her testimony) she was retrieving part of JFK's skull and/or brain
davidxn 2 years ago
then he suddenly becomes nervous in front of the shop, avoiding cops?
even if he did shoot the cop, he was running for his life from the maffia!
he had been trying to kill the fascist General Edwin Walker couple of months back, so that gave the CIA/FBI maffia plenty of time to come up with a plan of how to set Lee up!
Lee himself was involved somehow, but i think even he didnt know the real plot.
HumanityWins 2 years ago
yeah he was the patsy as the "terrorists" were on september 11...compartmentalization...they were apart of a much bigger scheme than they realized
joemoe23 2 years ago
the fact that everyone ducked after the headshot says clearly that it came from around them, not far behind.
too bad that kennedy didnt duck into the cabrio after the first shot :s
+its really weird that the governor, the driver, nor the security did nothing after the first 2 shots!
controlled all the way...
a police officer witness said that after the shots, he saw Harvey sitting quietly in the dining room, not even sweaty nor breathing heavily and not even nervous!!!!
HumanityWins 2 years ago
@HumanityWins Is it also weird that Mrs. Kennedy just sat there staring at him? If there was anybody who could do anything to save him, it was her -- she was sitting right next to him! So I take it she's also a part of the Systemic Conspiracy, along with the SS, DPD, CIA, FBI, KGB, WC, HSCA, Mob, Castro, Che, Zapruder, LBJ, GWB, etc.?
The9Nazgul 1 year ago
@The9Nazgul
dunno... kennedy didnt throw himself into the car either... i believe they didnt expect something like that back in the 60s...
there's definitely a "secret" society running the world though. why else do we see things like 9/11 and wars in Iraq/Afghan...
internet helps to bring down the system and identify the real enemies :)
HumanityWins 1 year ago
@HumanityWins
Exactly! They didn't expect it -- it took everybody by complete surprise, otherwise JFK wouldn't have paraded around major cities in open limos! It happened in ~9 seconds. None of them in their wildest dreams thought somebody would be so depraved and cold-blooded as to shoot the Pres in the head.
I actually somewhat agree about the notion of a "secret society" -- an elite group that "runs things." However I don't believe they were the cause of JFK's death.
The9Nazgul 1 year ago
@The9Nazgul
they were actually. notice how there are never a trial for the lone killers. they would speak the truth if they arent killed.
they also "run things" actually. see a documentary about Silvio Berlusconi - it's called "Videocracy". (it might not be on the internet yet though).
i used the term "secret societies" because they are only 'secret' because mainstream media doesnt talk about them. they are actually real and really run things!
HumanityWins 1 year ago
@HumanityWins
I used to suspect there was a conspiracy involved with JFK, but not anymore. The evidence is just too overwhelming against LHO. However, it has only been recently that I've learned what his real motive was (hint: it wasn't what the WC, HSCA or the ABC Jennings Special ascribed, and let me say, truth sometimes IS stranger than fiction).
The9Nazgul 1 year ago
@The9Nazgul
and it was... ?
HumanityWins 1 year ago
@HumanityWins
LHO was a driven, politically motivated, pro-Castro radical, not the clueless idiot he has been portrayed as. He was well-read on left-wing propaganda, and considered himself a revolutionary (and not a "poser" either). Consider that from his perspective (i.e., one aligned w Castro/Che), JFK, the American President, was no different to him than someone like Nixon (whom he also set out to assassinate at one point before his wife stopped him). LHO was a revolutionary.
The9Nazgul 1 year ago
@The9Nazgul LHO was a spy. A spy's modus operandi is to take on certain characteristics to ingratiate himself with the group to be infiltrated (e.g. pose as a Marxist-Leninist and join a pro-Castro revolutionary group). That's the whole point of a spy, to get you to believe they are something they aren't You don't think there's CIA men posing as Al-quaeda or whatever today? It appears LHO was a stunningly successful spy going by those who still trot out the 'he was a commie' crap even today.
TonyBananas101 1 year ago
@TonyBananas101 That's funny, as I am merely taking him at face value, considering the cumulative weight of his documented actions and his own words. And what purpose would the CIA have for a "communist-spy" in New Orleans and Dallas anyway?
What rather appears is that LHO was a stunningly underestimated individual who was way ahead of his time, even in the reckoning of those who still trot out the crap that he was either (a) a loser dimwit, (b) an "innocent patsy," or (c) a "brilliant spy."
The9Nazgul 1 year ago
@The9Nazgul How did the government plan to frame innocent people as described in the Operation Northwoods documents to "develop a false flag Communist Cuban terror campaign in the Miami area, in other Florida cities and even in Washington." The 1962 plan was drafted by the US Joint Chiefs of Staff. It was rejected by JFK. You think they didn't already have the capacity to do pull this off in Dallas in 1963? You don't think they already had agents and patsies already on the ground?
TrueNovice 1 year ago
@TrueNovice JFK was a member of an obscenely wealthy family, who not only controlled wealth, but also political power. Why should I for 1 moment believe that any sinister self-interest on the part of "Joints Chiefs of Staff" (who, BTW, serve at the pleasure of the President) could be any worse than any self-interest on the part of the Kennedy family? It is one thing for a gov agency to act covertly against an enemy of the US -- it's another altogether to attempt this against the agency's leader.
The9Nazgul 1 year ago
The Joint Chiefs planned to attack and kill Americans to blame it on Cuba. Maybe American citizens are the enemy? It factually documented in the White House tapes that there was intense hostility between the members of the joints chiefs and JFK. JFK rejected their plans for false terror attacks on US citizens for a pretext for invading Cuba, JFK rejected plans for a pre-emptive nuclear strike on the Soviet Union, He rejected plans for an expansion of American involvement in Vietnam.
TrueNovice 1 year ago
@TrueNovice Sorry, but I don't believe ANY of that hogwash for 1 millisecond. To quote Bill Clinton: "How dare you?" So, we have the narrative that it's Saint JFK versus the Joint Chiefs, who were phantom menace Sith Lords. JFK needed no "pretext" for invading Cuba -- Cuba was Communist and openly hostile to the USA. The USSR, w the help of its pawn Cuba, was the one planning the preemptive strike w missiles located just off the US coast. All of this being immaterial to the crime scene.
The9Nazgul 1 year ago
@The9Nazgul There is no need for you to believe anything. You can read the documents on the National Security Web site at George Washington University, but your too closed minded to impartially review the facts, but someone else reading this can do so. BTW JFK would need at least 2 approved miracles to be a declared a saint, so he may not be a saint and I never said he was. But who knows? If you judge a man by his enemies, he seems to be a pretty good guy, but maybe not a saint.
TrueNovice 1 year ago
@TrueNovice god just because he was liberal doesnt make him a good guy. he was a horrendous womanizer that had to be treated for syphilis
MeesterCrumpet 10 months ago
@MeesterCrumpet so?
SamiSRT 3 months ago
he got shot in the chest 2 times then in the head look at his head explode brutal but the head explodes like the 2nd shooter was standing at the side of the book depository on the ground not in it on the 6th floor if oswald was in the book place he wouldv killed the driver oswald got the 1st 2 shots the 2nd gunner got the final brain hit from the book place on ground level look at the brain spatter it lands infront of the driver and the police guy at that angle oswalds shot wouldnt of done that
jpawhees 2 years ago
FUCK THAT BASTERD WHO KILLED JFK!!!
MusicMate900 2 years ago 2
the zapruder film isnt fake stupid.
mikbfilms32 2 years ago
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It quite is, actully.
secondchance1977 2 years ago
Fake how? What sort of fakery was used to create this film?
alusherman 2 years ago