Madcatz Wireless Force Feedback Wheel for the XBox 360 Review by ISR

[kevn33]

thanks for the review...i never would pay $250 for this quality. im guessing most of the designers dont play any racing games

[squeakD]

It won't be much longer and I bet we'll see a huge price drop for this wheel. This wheel is grossly overpriced for what you get. Our local GameStop has one that's been on the shelf for a while now. I think the makers are living up to the company name with this product.

[TheDodoKillerHD]

I might pick this up because I can get it for £90, which is £30 cheaper than a Drive Force GT, and about £200 cheaper than a Fanatec CSR.

[Gamer117154]

Please if anyone knows where I can get better pedals for this wheel please please let me know.

[939Batze]

@simracingtonight You can use it on the PC with the wireless adapter for Windows and the default Wireless Xbox 360 Controller Driver

[xdlugia1]

What are lapwings?

[AttilaTheHun333333]

Thank you Darin to be this professional and mention the csr after this whole fanatec issue. I have a csr elite And I hope you guys make a review very soon. This is the best simracing show and fanatec wheels should be a part of it...it would be a mess, if the best xbox compatible wheel on market wouldnt get a review from you guys. Thanks for the show!

[bottlecap33]

My first wheel was a mad catz for my PS1 and after hours of pulling it apart and rebuilding it i got it to a point where i liked it. That said now that i have gone through a g27 and now my Fanatec GT2 i will never go back to that mad catz crap. Fanatec is a vastly superior product and worth every penny.

[evilgamers1]

for $250 this wheel is clearly a piece of junk, same price as a G27!

[TheTdorsey6]

Ultimately It's a piece of junk.

[HomeskooledVideo]

I'm surprised Madcatz even had the balls to send that junk out for reviews. Nice to see Darin mentioning Fanatec again. I'm off to race some more with my CSR Elite.

[ricospeedo]

Looks to me as a pile of junk, way of topic also....

[Lasukie]

Why so no video for this week? Since when SRT biweekly?!

[TheGimpdooby]

Shame i cant seem to buy a Fanatec CSR in australia.

[Formula21DI]

@TheGimpdooby Cant in canada either. Less then pleased by that.

[Cronosxiwar]

This thing looks like junk...

[Flaw3dGenius]

Where the hell is the Forza 4 review?

[FluidViscosity101]

MADCATZ MAKE TOTAL CRAP - ALWAYS HAVE.

[aarrtt444]

Its a new Saitek R660

Should cost about $70

R220 is a great very low budget wheel, the R440/R660 suck though

[j0akim123]

I love your show! This was one of the funniest episodes! I laughed a lot.

One thing I would appreciate is a video on how to start playing online for example with GT5, every time the tracks are full, and if they are not, I suck and have no chance to compete. So maybe a guide with tips and tricks for beginners. That would be great! :) Thanks for the show!

[Killer91109]

Worst wheel I've seen in my life.

[AvengeRpro]

anyone knows any other sim racing show youtube channel? I only know teamVVV

[AvengeRpro]

@jammydodgerman he doesn't work for fanatec anymore, and while he did he didn't do reviews.

[jammydodgerman]

@AvengeRpro aaa okay. i shall delete my comment then :)

[tje23acf]

@jammydodgerman Darin no longer works for Fanatec, I heard he left near Christmas! :)

[Nefus1988]

Didn´t the Fanatec GT3 wheel score 60? And this plastic junk get the same score as the GT3 wheel? This wheel deserves zero.

[iTzadde]

Thank You guys so much for opening my eyes haha I can´t believe I thought this wheel was good :D Fanatec is my aim from now on! YEAH!

[kemorc]

Madcat's is all about low quality at a high price.

[Ryzza5]

Can't believe it tool 15+ mins to tell us about this. Just skipper through it as the comments sum it up.

Haven't seen TWISR since Dec 30, are you on break atm?

[dbzsongokuss3]

hey, do you guys race in any leauges like race2play or something? i really want to race against you guys :)

[Rcrby525]

@dbzsongokuss3 shaun cole races iRacing, so does darin.

race2play is a ripoff

[thomassegaert]

i just played need for speed shift 2 on the ps3, it was my first sim and i loved it. but my ps3 is not always available to me and i have a wheel for the pc ( its about 9 years old now but whatever, it have force feedback) what game would you recomend for me? providing i like good graphics and cool looking cars

pls reply

[keza4win7]

@thomassegaert im sorry but nfs shift is not a "simulator" its a wannabe simulator, and for an old steering wheel try toca race driver 3, its a little bit of an old game, but its still a half decent game

[thomassegaert]

@keza4win7 sorry, its not what i'm looking for, what would you say is the closest thing to forza 4 for pc?

[keza4win7]

@thomassegaert probably R-factor ive never played PC sims tho, only GT5 and the F1 2010 and 2011 on PS3

[capon7159]

Good review guys. You are correct, the price is too high. At $100 or $150, it would be a viable entry-level wheel and pedals to start with. You briefly mentioned the M$ wheel, I owned one of those for a couple of years and it was a solid starter wheel and pedals set, at a fair price ($100). Someone needs to replicate that in the sim racing wheel market for Xbox 360. Logitech has the entry level force feedback wheel and pedals nailed with the Driving Force GT, which is available for $150.

[pwashington99]

I've been watching you guys for years, this wheel, or any madcatz product for that matter has no place to be on your show. This wheel is by far the worst product from them just because of the price. Madcatz always knew there place in the past, thats why there wheels have always been 60 bucks, But $250!!!! For this!! I'm shocked. great review as always though guys, Hopefully now no one will pick up this wheel..

[Texarmageddon]

@pwashington99 and they still know theyre place... How many people know about Fanatec?

[stacykeiblerslovesla]

Finally, the review I've been waiting for!

[Rcrby525]

what a peice of shit.

noisy gearbox?

okay, so the g25, driving force gt have somthing wrong there!

logitech really needs to make somthing for the xbox.

and those pedals are a peice of shit.

[BigFatSmellyCheese]

"We're going to take a quick break"

That's what you think... *Skips adverts*

[webdigit]

OMG, tough competitor for Fanatec ! Ahahah !

The design is so cool, reminds me my playskool wheel when I was 2, ahahah !

And you said this thing also vibrates ?! OMG !

[xbladerunner]

Ok Shaun, now time to review the Sick Fanatec CSR Elite. Have it go head to head with the T500 guys. I know the t500 is not xbox friendly but hell you can still use the PC/PS3 for the comparo and review.

[sannyf2000]

That wheel is a old rebranded Saitek‑R660GT/R440 from like 2005 so its allready werry old.

[PAPO1990]

I was lucky enough to drive a 458 in vegas and there is a significant click, it's not a button like click but it's not far off

[carpenter751]

csr at $299 is a no brainer.

[namelesssnitchy]

@carpenter751 what do you mean?

[carpenter751]

@namelesssnitchy At the end of the video they bring up the Fanatec CSR wheel and pedal combo for $299 and that wheel is way better quality product. I personally hate all madcatz products and wouldn't by anything made them because their products are just crap period. Check out Fanatec great products at a fair price.

[kizzagt]

@carpenter751 speaking of the fanatec wheel and pedal combo you can now get them for 250 us/euros

[redpod]

These guys are the real deal. They are sim racers to the core like most of us here. They have complete integrity in what they do, and plan to keep it that way. Anything we can to let them know that we watch their shows, will only help our sport. Their increased visibility helps announce to the rest of the world that sim racing is something to be taken seriously, even though we're having too much fun taking it seriously. Seriously, show your support and SUBSCRIBE!

[Mitsugamerz]

The paddles in the evo x mr click

[SEXYBEAST96GTA]

Fanatec CSR paddles click but I wear a headset and there is no feel. Really off putting

[DeadAndUnknown]

insidesimracing is making YTPs?? O.o

[alabama1974]

no click on shifter is pros. You will receive information from game, and sound, and you will know that you shift in new gear. Click on shifter is one thing that bother me on g25.

[m0dm0use]

@simracingtonight You can probably use this on a computer with a Windows wireless receiver! So you're compatibility score was wrong, so change it to a 7.

[kenwilkinson]

Thanks for another great comprehensive review. It’s unfortunate that a game as great as Forza 4 is limited to this wheel or international mail orders. I hope that one day Logitech will make a multi platform wheel with a load cell brake, in fact I would pre-order that now!

[RubenchoM]

@kenwilkinson I hope for that too but actually is Microsoft who decides which manufacturer / wheels can be used for the X360, the Logitech G27 is way better than this plastic thing and costs less.

[DeadAndUnknown]

@kenwilkinson Fanatec already made :p

[dirt3playerz]

I have this wheel and I like it

[Angorrr]

Black Clubsports in Background?

[RockstarDriver]

yes, then y would i be watching this video

[PrickityPrick]

4:40 did it says $699.99 NEW?!

[SWETGUV]

Madcatz. The clue is in the name.

[CMDRSweeper]

@SWETGUV Perhaps, you would expect more from them now that they have Saitek under their belt.

But I admit, I didn't expect much from this :P

[666patrickbateman666]

Madcatz is the complete opposite to Fanatec !

[Spo0Bo]

Problem is that MS demands a licensing model for accessories. So all x360 wheels will be more expensive than the PS3 wheels (because of added licensing costs).

[magzire]

The xbox sure gets a lot crap made for it. Btw how could that thing leave the factory floor better yet approve blue prints.

[ls1monster]

Great review guys. I still can't believe MadCatz wants that toy for $250. What a joke.

[DeadAndUnknown]

@ls1monster Yeah. Wouldn't $2,50 be better :)

[racer99a]

I'm glad I bought the Fanatec CSR value pack. This doesn't look that great for the price.

[pilotmonkey]

I appreciate your guys great indepth warts and all reviews.

[joystickjedi]

lol, MadCatz is just mad if they really think there is a market for this thing at $250.

[tijman1]

MADCATZ  JAJAJAJAJAJAJAJA, , DARIN U NEED TO FIX THINGS WITH THOMAS CUZ OTHERWISE UR GONA END UP REVIEWING SHIT LIKE THIS ALL THE TIME

[PranksAreUs83]

Never buy madcatz. Madcatz screwed me over since 1993

[vicbel]

That wheel is not worth fifty bucks! Ridiculous

[timHYPERLITE]

the thing they didnt even mention is that the wheel will be redundent by august,the new xbox720 is going to be on show at this years E3

[zetuga1969]

This wheel at this price is a complete rip off, it shouldn't cost more then 100$.

For 300$ you can buy Fanatec's Forza Motorsport CSR wheel value pack, which includes the CSR wheel and pedals. Madcatz and Microsft should be ashamed of a product like this wireless plastic junk at 250$.

[DrPilotRedC]

why not buy a G25?

[myztazynizta]

Enjoy the videos but they're always 8 to 12 minutes longer than they need to be (not counting commercials)

[seismica]

That is a complete piece of junk, how can they justify that price? The sad thing is, these will sell because some people don't know the difference that extra $50 will get you.

[AvengeRpro]

@seismica or $100 less for a g27

[RockstarDriver]

i know that it is but forget the price. they make for kids not sim racers.

[CapitalRockShow]

Good review gents.

[rubenlal]

Two People are Xbox fanboys ;D

[RockstarDriver]

you guys have too high of an expectation. the video games for gods sake

[01iamaprofessional]

@RockstarDriver for 250$ it is a complete waste of money.

[punanena2]

@RockstarDriver Have you ever tried sim racing?

[alvarokas]

Too expensive for that,... my old xbox 360 wireless wheel cost me 70€ a year ago and i don't see a huge improvement on this for 250$...

[TheTaternator2]

Good Review! Glad that you tell them that it costs too much. Keep up the good work guys!

[nmatija]

I don't see the pedals having a travel limiter. Looks like if you press them too hard, they would snap easily. Am i seeing it bad? Is there a limiter on the base for pedal travel?

[boca10205]

those guys at mad cats have to be really stupid to think this piece of kit will sell.

[Genapex]

I would pay 50 bucks for it not a penny more

[mrfuzzer1]

How is it 250? I dont get it. If they took something like 110-150 maybe for some users.

[MrBenrulezz]

Can be used on pc, wither the wireless receiver.£16 on amazon

[TheIracingNoob]

Way to generous on the shabami.

[GodOfWar8585]

thats a gay looking wheel

[epcotte]

It looks like lots of it comes from the old Saitek R440 wheel: Pedals and wheel mount are an exact replica!

[mancavemotorsports]

i had the previous version of this wheel it was horrible only lasted 3 months then burnt out so i would never buy one of these i now own the 360 wheel but i have to sell as got a ps3 now so need a multi consol wheel fanatic csr wheel should do nicely

[wilm987]

How do you choose the hardware to review? Do you choose and buy stuff on your own or you contact the manufacter or you get contacted?

[guert2000]

come on guys! you have been testing that crap for 30 days when everyone's waiting for your forza4 review :(

[Thedude19831]

What about forza4. This is starting to get rediculous. scared of giving it an honest review considering the online problems?

[RetroGamerr1991]

@Thedude19831 They just started fixing them through forum feedback. They just about nailed down what's causing the freezing and should be releasing a patch before the end of the month.

[Thedude19831]

@RetroGamerr1991

I visit the forum very often and all t10 has done since october is open a thread to investigate the problems. They havent even responded once. Funny thing is they have a vacancy for a network programmer. I think they are pretty far from solving it actually. Only reason why you think its getting better is the fact that lots of people dont play it anymore because of the issues. I havent touched f4 in weeks.

[wastnTIMEwastnTIME]

I feel bad for the poor fools who paid $250 for this piece of crap :-D

[wrongfire]

Madcatz never impresses with any of their products... And this is a straight rip-off.

[hoyaxc]

I saw this at the store the other day. I'm glad I watched this first.

[Razorback613]

TURN THE FRAKIN' MUSIC DOWN!

[SincereDoubt]

Fooooorrrrrzzza 4

[MrVatechprez]

Forza 4 Review?

[GT5Guides]

Its looks like.....Plastik, Plastik and more Plastik

[MiguelRelvas1]

It looks so bad! Looks so cheap and so... I can't explain :-S It's not robust.

[F1Filter]

Mad Catz should've learned their lesson with the Andretti Wheel debacle. Apparently not.....

[oOBeaverzOo]

How funny it is? you have to use velcro on 200+ usd wheel. Isn't this is just old Saitek FFB wheel but now with new body plus Xbox360 compatibility?

[PodkreconyZiutek]

@oOBeaverzOo Yeach, It looks almost like Saitek R660GT(oryginally 180 deg. of rotation), but it cost 3x more money ;)

[MaRcIu27]

they took that pedals from an alien spaceship.

[Nefus1988]

Oh jeez! 250$? Looks like something you would get from a Happy Meal on Mcdonalds.

[catsanddogsarekillin]

@Nefus1988 i bet McDonalds couldnt afford the wheel

[xxWtChocolatexx]

Figured it would not be that good because its mad catz. But the price almost had me thinking it would be worth a buy.

[MattySP34Ks]

Guys, just so you know, my madcatz saitek r220 is shit. So don't bother with this.

[col243]

whats the best wheel to buy for the xbox???

[arnold4life476]

@col243 fanatec csr elite

[TactfulValkyrie]

@col243 csr wheels

[prtvq]

I paid 149 for my brand new G27 hoho

[indydaisy1]

@prtvq £ or $ either way score you lucky bugger :)

[AvengeRpro]

for $250 that's a 0/10. Without ffb it'd be a $20 wheel

[NissanDori]

you guys should try make you own wheel i would buy it

[TotalMorgo]

Its a shame really, its the reason I won't buy a 360, no decent wheels, that and my DFGT is incompatible!

[arnold4life476]

@TotalMorgo get a fanatec

[TotalMorgo]

@arnold4life476 Don't like them and Id rather just keep my PS3 and PC and use my logitech? Lol

[TypeRSXdc5]

$250 is what i payed for my g27...

[simobgbgbg]

Chuck Norris can beat Darin with this wheel!

[rlstrm]

my first one of these lasted me 4 days untill i had a problem with the force feedback making a really loud grinding noise and not turning properly, but they had 2 year warranty so got a second one

[TheKwod]

the ultimate definition of a toy, LOL.

[indydaisy1]

Wow it looks looks bloody awfull, what a throwback.

[Joshman692]

Any reviews of the Thrustmaster F458 coming soon?

[radcarton]

yehaa

[krayziesensei]

Another sim racing video!!!!! Somebody pinch me! HEAVEN!!!!