Olivier Mader (2160) vs. Natalie Sun (2296) game 4

[TTPoster]

Sorry, aber das sieht aus wie Kreisliga.. Aber man kann ja nicht wissen, wie effektiv es wirklich ist. Macht es dir Spaß so zu spielen, oder geht es dir nur ums Gewinnen bzw. Effektivität?

Und was ist das für ein Belag auf der Rückhand? Scheint ziemlich viel Störeffekt zu haben..

[grandsportc3]

@TTPoster verwende einen ziemlich abgespielten DtecS auf der Rueckhand. Habe einige Kreisliga spieler welche zu Besuch waren gespielt und habe gegen keinen Kreisliga spieler bis jetzt verloren. Habe auch ein paar fruehere Verbands und Landesligaspieler gespielt und geschlagen. Ich habe viel Spass beim Spielen. Fuer mich ist Tischtennis eher ein Sport wie Schach da ich nicht allzu athletisch bin. Macht viel spass, ist allerdings nicht schoen zum anschauen.. Habe uebrigens jetzt ein 2309 rating.

[LehmannDaHero]

Hahahah you're the best chicken wing LP blocker ever!

[Andruskos]

Wooooooooooow u are bad

[vagabond1200]

this guy is a disgrace for the sport, it's a bad appearance for table tennis

[domiffa]

you're not using your forehand... That limits your options.

[grandsportc3]

@domiffa My game is completely based on my backhand blocks and pushes.. I have improved my game since that match.. I'm now rated 2285..

[domiffa]

@grandsportc3 - hab gesehen, dass du deutsch sprichst. 2285 Punkte?? In Deutschland wäre das erste Bundesliga und damit Profi?!! Gewinnst du örtliche oder regionale Turniere mit deinem Spiel?

[grandsportc3]

@domiffa Das Deutsche rating ist nicht gleichwertig mit dem Amerikanischen. 2285 rating entspricht gutem Verbandsliga oder schwaecheres Oberliga niveau. Landesliga ist zirka 2150 durchschnitt und Verbandsliga 2250. Oberliga waere zirka 2400 durchschnitt. 1. Bundesliga in Deutschland waere zirka 2700 bis 3000 niveau im amerikanischen Rating.

[TheKarub1]

do you have a forehand ?

[Claire1Rogers]

girl vs boy? wth?

[grandsportc3]

@Claire1Rogers Why? Are you sexist? In TT in North America, we have a OPEN category which is open to men and women.. The girl in the video is actually a member of the US Women's National Team.

[Claire1Rogers]

@grandsportc3 lol. Stating the obvious fact that girls are physically weaker than men naturally, is not sexist, its common sense. Go play someone ur own size, and sex :P

[17teacmrocks]

@Claire1Rogers to all those ppl complaining about girl vs boy, zhang yining destroyed everyone men and women last time she played in the US and has also dominated some top 2nd string chinese national team players. chen qi declined to play her. makes you wonder if zhang yining could be top 10 in the world men & women.

[13CatShitOne37]

Nice Videos, i watched all of them, keep up the good work and keep updating videos :)

[joshydewy]

das Noppen-Zeug da is ja kein richtiges Tischtennis...

[allstringsattached]

Mr Mader, honestly, I hate playing against people with pips. I am a smooth rubber player, but I have a message for all the smooth rubber players who are bitching about your game. Guys, get your game and movements so well that pips cease to bother. Pips is just another variation of challenge, similar to the various spins that opponents offer in their serves. As long as pips is legal, we have to defeat the players with pips. After all Mader has 2000 + points, so he must be doing somethings right.

[stevenjiii]

I hate ping pong after watching this

[panferno10000]

kannst du auch mit vorhand spielen?

[paysage57]

apart from using your long pips you're strictly doing nothing... what a shame for our sport... not surprising that some people say that it is not a sport when they see someone like you

[grandsportc3]

@paysage57 So, you believe that offensive table tennis is the only acceptable type of table tennis? There are different concepts and game styles in the sport. It's not a beauty contest.. It's about winning!

[LookB3hindU]

@grandsportc3 Actually it's not about winning. It's about having fun in the sport. I think that what he's saying is that you're not a lot of fun to watch compared to other players. You have an understanding of the spin on a ball and you use long pips so you just stand at the table.

Someone like Natalie Sun has a higher level of understanding spin and she practices an offensive technique. Your style of play is habit rather than technique.

I'm sorry to say but paysage has a point.

[roadi1983]

@grandsportc3

sind wir einfach mal ehrlich hr.mader ;)

du hast en sehr guten/störenden noppenbelag gefunden und hast gemerkt das die leute damit nicht zurechtkommen, das ist doch der einzige grund das du sie draufhast ;) wenn du genau so gut mit glatten belägen wärest, würdest du keine noppen spielen...ist keine anmache hier und jetzt, aber du spielst um zu gewinnen, nicht weil dir der sport spaß macht... ;) und vermiest damit anderen den spaß daran

[roadi1983]

@grandsportc3

translation:

lets be honest, mr. mader!

you have a very good and disturbing long pimple rubber equipped, you never use your forehand, youve realized people having HUGE problems with long pimples, thats the only reason you have em!!! if you played as succesfull with normal rubbers as youve done with your pimples, you would NOT play pimples anymore.... no offense to your person, but you play tabletennis to win, not because you like the sport itself, and that ruins it for others.

[grandsportc3]

@roadi1983 Of course I wouldn't be anywhere close to my level with inverted just like Ma Lin wouldn't be anywhere close to where he is if he'd use long pips as his striking surface of choice. Every style has the appropriate equipment. I have been playing with long pips for well over 20 years and obviouseliy, that's the equipment that suits my style and all my practice has been playing with that type of equipment. Of course it would be a HUGE change to switch to eqipment..

[roadi1983]

@grandsportc3

red es dir nur schön,du weißt genau das es irgendwie schwach ist mit langen noppen zu gewinnen, trotzdem lässt du sie drauf,weil du sonst untergehst....kein angriff,einfach die wahrheit =)

wenn du wie chen weixing oder joo see hyuk spielen würdest, bzw. ansätze dazu hättest, wäre das ne andere geschichte, aber du spielst STUMPF sogar auf der vorhandseite mit dem rückhand-noppenbelag ohne den schläger zu drehen, dafür musste ich 20 liegestütze machen früher xD

no further comment.

[Zidane13893]

first 100 isn't impossible for me, but im from Poland...we got good players,saint Andrzej Grubba,ex 30 in world rank Lucjan Błaszczyk,Daniel Gorak,Zeng Yi Wang(china player in poland),by the way where are you from?

when I come to US,I wanna play maybe with you and Werner Schlager(im so jealous) :D

[Zidane13893]

how many players is in US??in my opinnion i will be the best in US :P

[grandsportc3]

@Zidane13893 there are about 8000 tournament players in the US..  Let's play if you come to the US! Things aren't as easy when you have to actually play and not just talk.. Certain styles look like crap on video but are very effective.. I've beaten world ranked players before ;-) even though my game looks like I can't even beat a beginner..

[qingian]

why don't you ever use your forehand

[grandsportc3]

@qingian Only if I need to...

[caieros]

What blade and rubbers were you using, oliver?

[grandsportc3]

@caieros In that video, I was using a Butterfly Grubba Variant blade with Friendship 729 SST 1.5mm on the forehand and SE7EN Block on the backhand.. SE7EN went out of business as did their rubbers, so I went to a Dr. Neubauer Firewall Plus blade, Friendship 729SST 1.5 mm on the forehand and AIR Upupupup UQ on the backhand. However, I've been playing with TTMaster Fireproof lately and might switch to Fireproof.. It's slightly slower than AIR upupupup and better for attacking..

[SauseBrause]

hast ein eisenharten stand ;) und imer schoen reinnoppen ;) machst halt mal n schritt und ballerst ihr ein mitte vorhand zwischen ;)

[grandsportc3]

@SauseBrause Ich arbeite an meiner offensive!! Vor allem gegen defensivere gegner greife ich jetzt oefters an!