I use "ejected" in the same way a person can be ejected from a vehicle in a car crash. In other words, the poor soul was ejected...it was just probably against his will.
I do belive that the guy in the vid is right about a pilot ejecting, but the average tie fighter has no ejector seat capabilities at all so the pilot must obviously be flung from the explosion.
Yes, Empire is the best of all the movies. I need to re-watch Empire again with the commentary too. I used to have a subscription to a magazine called CineMagic that had interviews with the ILM guys & they would mention stuff like hiding pilots in ships & such. For example, they said they put pilots into the AT-ST that got it's head crushed in Jedi but you couldn't see their handiwork. I also remember them saying something about putting the pilot in for Empire.
A few other people have made that comment too. It's a good observation. But I don't think it's the case here. If it was debris from the tie fighter then there should be more substantial debris flying off in other directions too.
I probably should have been clearer but I wasn't implying that the ejection was voluntary. It was implied in the same manner as when a car hits a tree and the occupants aren't wearing seat belts. They usually are 'ejected' through the front windshield of the car. Lets put semantics aside though.
We can call it ejected, evicted, dis-engorged, thrown, flung or whatever other synonym we can think of. It doesn't bear much on what the object is other than describing something that flew from the ship.
My 'theory' (if there ever was one) is based on observation and anecdotal evidence namely articles and interviews I've read with employees of ILM. I'll state these when I answer your other comment.
Whether it's the pilot or not is debatable but I do know that it wasn't inserted and rotated 'digitally'. I just checked my copy of 'Empire' I got in the 80s to see if the object was still in there and it is. The effects of the original trilogy was done through a photo-optical process using filters, high contrast black and white films and optical printers.
Also, why only put one piece of debris in digitally when today it would be easy to use a particle generator to make extra debris?
I didn't mean it was added in later, I meant you could tell it is an actual piece of shrapnel they used, or paper of some kind, which they painted to look like shrapnel, because of the way in which it casts shadow upon itself.
Okay, to continue from my other comment. ILM employees are renowned for putting hidden elements in their effects work whether it be a hidden image in a matte painting, a tennis shoe in space battle or 1138 hidden somewhere in a scene. There are numerous interviews and commentary available on the web to back this up.
Finally, if you have the movies on DVD and, your DVD player has a zoom function, you can clearly see the arms, legs and head of the pilot before he disintegrates. Kind of gory.
TheBlitz1, just do a bit of searching and you will find the proof. maybe the first place to start would be the official star wars website. Head over to the database and search fro TI Fighter Pilots and right at the bottom, in the behind the scenes section, is the proof that it is indeed a pilot that ILM added
They actually made that with CGI I think, I'm sure if you look around the net you'll find how they did it, IT's pretty funny cause it's so subtle, TIEs don't got no ejector system so when you crash your stuffed.
If you watch the battle scenes in Babylon 5, you'll see the pilots ejected from the fighters. Also, the color of the explosions varies according to the atmosphere contained in the ships, so for some alien ships, you won't just see a yellow/white explosion. They used a team of astrophysicists to make sure they got it right.
Gosh, it's been forever since I watched Babylon 5 but I seem to remember something about how different elements affected how ships reacted in combat and especially when destroyed. However, never noticed the pilots being ejected. Need to go back and watch them again.
I'm playing it in my mind right now, and I'm all wrong...I was thinking he got ejected similar to this scene, but he was flying his tiefigher away from something exploding (Death Star, Star Destroyer?)...never mind!
never noticed that before, good eye! :)
VanBullock 4 months ago
@VanBullock Thank you very much! :)
dsbiehl 3 months ago
if he ejected why didn't he eject before the asteroid hit? it looks plain to me that the guy was just flung from the debris and was dead
geordiekimbo2 4 months ago
@geordiekimbo2 Thanks for the comment!
I use "ejected" in the same way a person can be ejected from a vehicle in a car crash. In other words, the poor soul was ejected...it was just probably against his will.
dsbiehl 4 months ago
dfksdf
elemental47 6 months ago
I do belive that the guy in the vid is right about a pilot ejecting, but the average tie fighter has no ejector seat capabilities at all so the pilot must obviously be flung from the explosion.
JunkyardCrap 1 year ago
@JunkyardCrap actually a tie fighter does have an ejection seat
AnakinSolo1 1 year ago
@JunkyardCrap They do have them I think, hence the full flight suit :)
tarkinfish 8 months ago
Never noticed it until tonight. It's a miracle that the pilot wasn't exploded along with his TIE.
technicallyabsurd 2 years ago
No kidding. Though it looks as if he didn't last that long after being flung.
dsbiehl 2 years ago
Yes, Empire is the best of all the movies. I need to re-watch Empire again with the commentary too. I used to have a subscription to a magazine called CineMagic that had interviews with the ILM guys & they would mention stuff like hiding pilots in ships & such. For example, they said they put pilots into the AT-ST that got it's head crushed in Jedi but you couldn't see their handiwork. I also remember them saying something about putting the pilot in for Empire.
Anyway, thanks for the comment.
dsbiehl 2 years ago
its just a chunk of tie fighter hull obviously...
TheBlitz1 2 years ago
A few other people have made that comment too. It's a good observation. But I don't think it's the case here. If it was debris from the tie fighter then there should be more substantial debris flying off in other directions too.
Anyway, thanks for stopping by and commenting.
dsbiehl 2 years ago
You can tell its a piece of actual shrapnel rotated around and digitally inserted frame by frame.
We all would like it to be a pilot, but it is not.
TheBlitz1 2 years ago
Besides the ejection seat exits through the top of the fighter, not the bottom right.
TheBlitz1 2 years ago
I probably should have been clearer but I wasn't implying that the ejection was voluntary. It was implied in the same manner as when a car hits a tree and the occupants aren't wearing seat belts. They usually are 'ejected' through the front windshield of the car. Lets put semantics aside though.
dsbiehl 2 years ago
That makes more sense, but if it was a pilot, the body of the pilot = the size of the command pod.
Why would you put semantics aside, wouldn't that allow clearer interpretation of your theory?
TheBlitz1 2 years ago
We can call it ejected, evicted, dis-engorged, thrown, flung or whatever other synonym we can think of. It doesn't bear much on what the object is other than describing something that flew from the ship.
My 'theory' (if there ever was one) is based on observation and anecdotal evidence namely articles and interviews I've read with employees of ILM. I'll state these when I answer your other comment.
dsbiehl 2 years ago
Well you called it ejected in your title....
>=\
TheBlitz1 2 years ago
Whether it's the pilot or not is debatable but I do know that it wasn't inserted and rotated 'digitally'. I just checked my copy of 'Empire' I got in the 80s to see if the object was still in there and it is. The effects of the original trilogy was done through a photo-optical process using filters, high contrast black and white films and optical printers.
Also, why only put one piece of debris in digitally when today it would be easy to use a particle generator to make extra debris?
dsbiehl 2 years ago
I didn't mean it was added in later, I meant you could tell it is an actual piece of shrapnel they used, or paper of some kind, which they painted to look like shrapnel, because of the way in which it casts shadow upon itself.
TheBlitz1 2 years ago
Okay, to continue from my other comment. ILM employees are renowned for putting hidden elements in their effects work whether it be a hidden image in a matte painting, a tennis shoe in space battle or 1138 hidden somewhere in a scene. There are numerous interviews and commentary available on the web to back this up.
Finally, if you have the movies on DVD and, your DVD player has a zoom function, you can clearly see the arms, legs and head of the pilot before he disintegrates. Kind of gory.
dsbiehl 2 years ago
Where is the interview and commentary which states that it is a tie fighter pilot?
TheBlitz1 2 years ago
TheBlitz1, just do a bit of searching and you will find the proof. maybe the first place to start would be the official star wars website. Head over to the database and search fro TI Fighter Pilots and right at the bottom, in the behind the scenes section, is the proof that it is indeed a pilot that ILM added
adywanuk 2 years ago
Awesome idea to use the official website.
dsbiehl 2 years ago
Thats sick.
rackas321 3 years ago
tie fighters DO have an ejection system
ombruzrox 3 years ago
They actually made that with CGI I think, I'm sure if you look around the net you'll find how they did it, IT's pretty funny cause it's so subtle, TIEs don't got no ejector system so when you crash your stuffed.
killerboy353 3 years ago
Looks more like a chunk of Tie-Fighter debrie, I have no idea why you see a human.
mitrooper 3 years ago
Best death ever!
MacHaxxor 3 years ago
Makes you wonder how dizzy he got before disintegration.
dsbiehl 3 years ago
If you watch the battle scenes in Babylon 5, you'll see the pilots ejected from the fighters. Also, the color of the explosions varies according to the atmosphere contained in the ships, so for some alien ships, you won't just see a yellow/white explosion. They used a team of astrophysicists to make sure they got it right.
CircaRigeI 4 years ago
Gosh, it's been forever since I watched Babylon 5 but I seem to remember something about how different elements affected how ships reacted in combat and especially when destroyed. However, never noticed the pilots being ejected. Need to go back and watch them again.
That's some pretty cool trivia though.
dsbiehl 4 years ago
LOL that's not a person, that's a chunk of the tie fighter itself.
Ehal256 4 years ago
Well it does help with the continuity of Vader being ejected...it is part of the tie fighter engineering!
VioletKitty411 4 years ago
Vader ejected? I'm trying to remember when.
*Dan skulkers off and gets the trilogy out for a re-watching.*
:D
dsbiehl 4 years ago
I'm playing it in my mind right now, and I'm all wrong...I was thinking he got ejected similar to this scene, but he was flying his tiefigher away from something exploding (Death Star, Star Destroyer?)...never mind!
VioletKitty411 4 years ago
Well, technically his ship got ejected from combat in the Death Star trench. So, I think you're right from a certain point of view. ;)
dsbiehl 4 years ago