@JosephCa64 are you retarded? In china abortion is NOT outlawed. It's a communist country aka liberal fasicism. Women are FORCED To get abortions. Why don't you actually do your research before making such stupid comments. Btw countries like UAE are very well off even though abortion is outlawed. Faggot.
The truth is the second beating heart in the mother's womb is not hers. The second brain being developed in her womb is not hers. The second pair of eyes being developed in her womb is not hers. And so on. It belongs to her son or daughter and she has no right to kill him or her.
Fundamentalist right wing Christians fight tooth and nail against Planned Parenthood. They falsely equate PP with abortion. They want to reduce the number of abortions.
Planned Parenthood works to reduce the number of unplanned pregnancies. This REDUCES the number of abortions.
The fundamentalists are actually against ANY contraception, which shows that they're living in the dark ages.
What is really bizarre is that one of the fundies might actually become President.
@norr4636 Margaret Sanger is dead. Why do pro-lifers obsess about her? Because it's a red herring to con gullible people into thinking that the eugenics idea, very popular a hundred years ago, is somehow related to today's issues.
George Washington owned slaves. What does that have to do with today's one dollar bill?
@ndrthrdr1 ....not a active pro-lifter..but do not support racist organizations that is mainly in blacks communites....nice try..GEORGE WASHINGTON.....GIVE ME BREAK
@norr4636 Planned Parenthood has clinics in poor neighborhoods, not in Beverly Hills. Gee, I wonder why?
Way to sidestep my valid point by simply saying "Give me a break." You don't respond directly to my point because you know that current events don't hinge on dead people ... unless, of course, you worship a human being who's been dead for 2,000 years.
@norr4636 Right. The country founded by slave owners never changed their position on the acceptability and legality of slavery. America must be intrinsically evil because of those upstanding founding fathers.
@juliewaswhore88 --In NY city 40% of all pregnancies end in abortion, and of the 40%, the majority are black women, and this was what Margret Sanger intended to do: eliminate blacks. And Barrack lapps it up as if its a good idea.
Abortion is legal(period). If you don't like it, move to one of the wonderful bastions of civilization where they have already outlawed abortion. Places like China, or North Korea, or Iran, places where women are treated no better than dogs. And, if you think that's a coincidence, you might be a shit kicking, Jesus freak retard.
@DeanClark68 Obama never said a baby was a punishment. Why is it necessary to put words in his mouth to make a point? Why is it necessary to take one sentence out of context to make a point?
Planned Parenthood provides low cost pap smears, check ups, treatment for STDs, and a myriad of other things that have nothing to do with abortion.
@CorrerPorVida It is the only way they can get them to continue to vote against their own financial interests. Read the comments, notice that the White Racists here are trying to gin up support among African Americans by calling it "black genocide."
Of course, no black or white woman is forced to have an abortion, that is up to them. Women just want to make sure that women of every color have the right to choose.
Obama is a race traitor. Most Planned Parenthood clinics are located in poor urban neighborhoods. Margaret Sanger true intentions for her organization was to euthanize African Americans to lower their population. Why do you think blacks are a minority, due to abortion. Watch a documentary in youtube called maafa black genocide.
If you agree that the ultimate decision has to remain with the woman, as several commenters here have said, then you are PRO-CHOICE. You can be pro-life while also pro-choice -- you just can't be anti-choice. You just can't be pro-criminalization. You can't be pro-doctor-murdering. But you can be pro-life.
When weighing the positives and negatives on the abortion issue, the only positive I can think of is that people who get them done tend to be democrats....
and yes... you are self-righteous. you think you know better than someone else what the right decision for their body and their life, and the potential life of a gestating being inside of the person is. no one is telling you when to have sex, when to have a child, or anything remotely like it. you choose for yourself, and others will choose for themselves. if you don't want anything to do with an abortion, then don't be involved. i would never force you to. just like abortion rights.
The answer is not the debate of right or wrong, legal or illegal. The answer is educating our young men and ladies, and making sure they understand the consiquences of sex. If you think you are mature enough to take responsibility for yourself and have sex, then you should be mature enough to take responsibility for a child, born or unborn....period.
you are a self-righteous dink pete, and you lack common sense. if you think millions of people aren't going to have sex every day, regardless of your desire to mandate the subsequent happenings, you are nuts. if you think you get to control what others do regarding sex and pregnancy, then i, or anyone else has the right to control your sexual and reproductive decisions. there aren't necessarily consequences from sex. what a medieval, repressed way of thinking.
Omg... I never even said I wanted to control sexual behavior!!! I just think it would be better if people are educated about the decisions they make. Self righteous??? That's stupid as hell man, I just lost alot of respect for you. I know I'm not perfect. I know I don't have all the answers, unlike you my friend. It's ok though, I still believe you have the right to your views. I believe that a repressed way of thinking is to believe that you can do what you want without ever thinking of others
wanting to force someone to have a baby, potentially, every time they have sex is de facto control of sexual behavior. your assumptions about someone that wants to have an abortion is not educated is an erroneous, blanket statement. *a lot, not alot. alot isn't a word. LMAO. my thinking is the opposite of repression, you dolt. i want woment to choose what to do with their uteri, not me, not you, and not the government. that's the polor opposite of repression or oppression.
Alrighty then, if you want to have a spelling contest you just blew that one up a wild hogs ass. "woment" should be women, "polor" should be polar, and it's obvious you don't understand any suggestion i've made here. I will say just think about your kids, maybe you would feel better if they understand everything that can happen with sex. Instead of saying " oh just have fun, you can always get an abortion".
obviously if someone typed a t on the end of women, that is a typo, and not a misspelling, dumbass. i corrected polar 5 seconds after i made the post, so that is out the window as well, idiot. you are a very small-minded fool. my kids are very well educated about sex. you seem to assume that every person that wants an abortion has been told not to worry, and to just have fun. you are an idiot. if you think that people that get pregnant don't know how it happens, you are a level 5 moron.
It looks like all you are good at is throwing a little pussy fit and calling people names....... What a waste of my time to argue with a childish level 6 dick head like you.
LOL chastize someone for name calling, then call them a childish dickhead HAHAHAHAHA. f'n comical.
all i am good for is dominating foolish idiots in debate, such as went on here regarding sex and personal freedoms. you are a repressed, brainwashed clown.
hey he does have a point man---ur insult was uncalled for. If you know the truth then you dont have any reason for name calling. Obviously he knows ur right cuz he is the one that resorted to it first cuz his ego wont allow him to admit his wrong. So just chill man. you made ur point and thats all you can do. I just told him he needs to do his research cuz he has no idea what he is talkin about. I volunteer at the pregnancy center where I live so I know ur right--its a human at conception
You are right man, I went overboard with it because i just tried to make a point and then I got attacked....I'll keep my cool next time. Thanks for the reply
Okay first off yeah ultimately the decision is the woman's to make. I do give you that one. On the other hand, however, I think that she should know all the facts before she makes that horrible decision plus what she wants to do wit her own body is up to her ut she is tryin to abort someone elses body which is MURDER plain and simple!! Research ur fact buddy before you debate someone about this cuz researchers already confirmed that its a human at conception!!!
For a start, this isnt about anyone's rights, it is about Genocide and depopulation. See de-population agenda videos: Codex Alimentarus, Georgia Guidestones and Depopulation, Denver Airport Murals, Trials of Henry Kissinger, Rockefeller speaks abour depopulation.
naturalshit has no idea of what debating is, and had no intention of it. he wanted only to lie about what i have said, and other facts in an effort to portray himself as winning. he doesn't understand that abortion is a topic that amounts to opinion. he can't get over it. he can't accept that abortion is legal and that people support that reality. so he goes off his f'n rock and throws all kinds of bs around to deflect.
Good job, you win and millions of potential human beings lose thier hope of life... bet you are proud of yourself for being such a wonderful and intelligent person slyjoker, bet youre glad you got a chance to be born too.
it is a good job by me, yes.. but i don't win anything. every woman in the country does. potential human beings don't trump the rights of the already existing human beings. i am proud of myself on this issue, yes. very much so. i am not glad i had a chance to be born, as i wouldn't know anything about it had i never been born, let alone conceived. that can only be contemplated from the selfish standpoint of wanting to be alive in the reality that exists with me having been born.
quotes aren't facts. you post opinions as if people have to agree!!!! we don't!!! abortion can't be proven to be wrong!!! it can only be stated as an opinion!!!!
ABORTION IS LEGAL, WE WIN. THERE IS NO LOSING, WE ALREADY WON!!!
abortion is literally not murder!!!!!!! LOLOLOL factually it is not murder!!!! nowhere in the united states can a woman be charged with murder for having an abortion!!!! YOU LOSE!!!!
naturalshit is a liar that won't confront anyone!!! he is a pussy ass that can't admit he lost!!!! he can't provide one fact that proves abortion is wrong, only opinions!!!!
it is enjoyable to make fun of those that lost and can't accept it. the chickenshits that can't debate, and can't accept reality, are really sad little twits.
you never had any desire to debate. just tell lies about what i said and try to spin bs to suit you. you have no proof of anything that is disputed. everything biological is a fact. abortion being wrong or right is an opinion, not fact. you can't even debate why you think what you think LOL you just attack others
Try this again from the same college sociologist: fetus and a baby, an embryo and a child, etc. Then have students understand that all language will either affirm or deny the personhood and humanity of those around us. Have them track the language they hear throughout the day, counting how many dehumanizing terms they encounter in the hallways, on radio (especially rap songs), in magazines, etc.
you still have no proof!!!! you are losing big time!!!! you can't prove that abortion is wrong!!! you can only state opinions!!!!! show me some scientific facts that it is wrong, and not just your opinion!!!!
The language used by abortionists reflects their desire to deny personhood to the pre-born child. Terms such as "products of conception" mask the human reality of the child in the womb.
women aren't using hangers today. they don't have to, you idiot. they can go have a legal abortion. that is why they don't use hangers. use some commone sense. there is no embarrassment of going to PP or any other facility. you assume ridiculous things in the name of other people. i provided a link that shot you to hell HAHAHAHA.
you haven't provided any relevant facts. just things you think justifiy denying abortion rights. there is no fact that proves abortion is wrong. it is opinion.
A person you can't say things right and uses words that doesn't mean anything and then say things that's twisted and then later on try to deny it is lame...moron.
You have no IQ at all. You failed to provide facts like I have.
i don't admit that a fetus is a human being. but i will allow you to claim it in the argument. focus on that. get over the nonsense. you can't. you want to argue about bs. you want to try to make shit up to discredit someone, when i never said it. you can suck me.
The Developing Human: Clinically Oriented Embryology4 (pp 2-18): "Zygote: this cell results from the union of an oocyte and a sperm. A zygote is the beginning of a new human being (i.e., an embryo). Human development begins at fertilization, the process during which a male gamete or sperm ... unites with a female gamete or oocyte ... to form a single cell called a zygote. This highly specialized, totipotent cell marks the beginning of each of us as a unique individual."
Essentials of Human Embryology5 (pp. 1-17): "In this text, we begin our description of the developing human with the formation and differentiation of the male and female sex cells or gametes, which will unite at fertilization to initiate the embryonic development of a new individual. ...
Human development begins at fertilization, the process during which a male gamete or sperm ... unites with a female gamete or oocyte ... to form a single cell called a zygote. This highly specialized, totipotent cell marks the beginning of each of us as a unique individual."
yes, human development begins at fertilization. duh. that is known to all, and doesn't need to be said. lol no shit. it marks the beginning of a potential human being, not a human being. as you should well know, a substantial number of conceptions end in spontaneous abortion, miscarriages, and stillbirths. not all conceptions are lives. conception is the potential of person, not a person.
Human Embryology & Teratology6 (pp. 5-55): "Fertilization is an important landmark because, under ordinary circumstances, a new, genetically distinct human organism is thereby formed... Fertilization is the procession of events that begins when a spermatozoon makes contact with a secondary oocyte or its investments...
yes, an organism is formed on conception. very good. you are learning basic human biology. nice. what dr david brewer says is his opinion. his opinion doesn't control mine, and it doesn't control the constitution or roe v wade. sorry. his words are his thoughts and aren't the law. it can have a head, a heart, two arms, two legs, and w/e else.. and the woman can still abort it. that is because it is inside her body, and that gives her the right to abort w/e you call it. sorry, but facts are facts
it is brewers opinion. he isn't stating any fact about abortion being legal or not. he is expressing his thoughts. his thoughts don't create law, and they certainly don't make anyone else have to agree with him. LOL duh.
yes, a woman could kill a human being gestating inside of her if she chooses. we have gone over that countless times. why keep repeating it? it is true, she can abort w/e you want to call the gestating being. very high iq here. 146. it doesn't change.
But you change position so that I would stop bagging on you. In the beginning you said not human and now you said human.
You're just like Pres. Obama who said abortion is wrong and I will everything to minimize it and then said I will not allow them to be punish with a baby.
i haven't changed position once. a woman can have an abortion no matter what you call the being inside her uterus. i haven't changed that once kiddo. hahahahaha.. you lose again. i haven't changed one inch
obama never said abortion is wrong. that is just another blatant lie you keep repeating. if you think he thinks it is wrong, then how could he say it would be puninshing someone? you contradict yourself, stupid asshole!!! LOLOL smoked again. big time LMAO
you are a not a very good troll. you accuse someone of being a troll, but do what you accuse them of doing before they do it. that doesn't make sense.
no one knows that mccorvey lied!!! lolol she could be lying now!!!! and i have read up on what happened far more extensively than you have !!!! you lose again!!!! you have no proof that abortion is wrong!!! you only have opinions!!!!
The denial of the fact that the fetus is a person is a time-honored tactic. Throughout history, we see examples of people being denied their personhood. Have students choose one example and compare it to the current abortion debate. Examples can include: black slaver, women's rights, Jews in Nazi Germany, mentally challenged.
"I opened the sock up and I put it on the towel and there were parts in there of a person. I'd taken anatomy; I was a medical student. I knew what I was looking at. There was a little scapula [shoulder blade] and there was an arm, and I saw some ribs and a chest, and I saw a little tiny head, and I saw a piece of a leg, and I saw a tiny hand. ...
brewer is a source of a person that has an opinion, that you copied and pasted as evidence of?????? what is the evidence his words are supposed to create? do his words mean that no one else, and no other doctor can have a differing opinion? you are pathetic. he isn't a source of fact about whether abortion is legal or should be. he has an opinion, and millions of people have opposing views including countless doctors. it isn't a popularity contest in the first place. constitutionality rules.
no have no proof. you have no proof that abortion is wrong. you only have opinion. i think abortion is a fundamental right that everyone should support. no facts involved on either side. just opinions. i don't have to say it is a human being, but lets say it is to satisfy you in the conversation. it is a human being, from the moment of conception. now what will you argue about? LOL nothing left to say. i have never had an opinion that depended on what you call the gestating being. LOL
you have given no proof that abortion factually is wrong. you can only give opinion. that is all there is to give.
i am the farthest thing from a nazi that there is. i detest nazis. so that was moronic. what a shock, coming from you.
no one is experimenting on anyone in an abortion. it is simple. end the pregnancy. there is no experimenting going on during an abortion. you are the nazi by trying to control women's bodies.
If women (and their male sexual partners) had to examine the results of their abortions,7 there would be a lot fewer abortions in the world. As long as the fetus is just a "blob of tissue" abortion will continue to be widely practiced. This is why abortion advocates oppose any attempts to provide women with scientific, unbiased information on fetal development. Ignorance is bliss. Feticide is legal.
your assertion that something would create less abortions in the world is pretty silly. first, the man has no say. and shouldn't. it isn't his body. second, you are stating something that you want to be true without evidence. no one opposes any woman having whatever factual information she wants. abortion is legal.
You're no different from those nazi and those people who enslave other people. You first dehumanized it so that you don't feel guilty and then you kill it.
you are losing iq. that is for sure. you started low, and it is getting worse as you go. i have succeeded at every turn. babies are people, as every person knows. your lies just make you look stupid. you just keep repeating the same nonsense because it is all you have. your ridiculous lies. LOL you are a joke GOTCHA AGAIN
a hanger if very effective yes. that is a known fact. it was used very commonly prior to roe v wade. again you fixate on something that you know nothing about obviously.
we don't see it.. duh... because abortion is legal you dumbass.. LOLOLOL
hahahahahaha
women are more concerned with having a safe abortion than being humiliated. and you assume that women are humiliated by having an abortion in every case. hahahahahahahaha you are a clueless tool
you really don't know about coat hanger abortions? back-alley abortions? do you think these terms just came out of nowhere for no reason? are you f'n serious? HAHAHAHAHA nothing you have said has any meaning
first of all where is your proof. Nothing. You keep blowing thing off your ass. You keep messing up on your words and I am able to capitalize on it.
Try this one by you: a woman can kill a human being, or anything else, gestating inside her body. yes a human being anything that you assert is a human being, she can kill it.
HAHAHAHA... and you've been saying that is not a human being. GOTCHA
HAHAHAH first of all, where is your proof? nothing. you keep blowing things OUT of your ass. LOL. you keep messing up on YOUR words and i don't even need to capitalize on it, but it sure is funny.
try this one: a woman can kill a human being, or anything else gestating inside her body. yes a human being. if it is gestating inside her body, yes she can kill it.
i have been saying you can call it a human being FOR THE SAKE OF ARGUMENT. it doesn't matter to me on the core issue.
continue: I checked it out and there were two arms and two legs and one head, etc., and I turned and said, I guess you got it all ... It was pretty awful that first time... it was like somebody put a hot poker into me."
a woman can kill a human being, or anything else, gestating inside her body. yes a human being anything that you assert is a human being, she can kill it.
and regardless of human life being definable by stages of development, according to anyone... the stage of development is not the only issue. you always fail to recognize that there is a literal distinction in physical reality between being gestating inside of a woman, and being born. there is a literal tangible, physical difference. you think the difference doesn't matter, and i think it matters more than anything on this issue.
You may ask, "But couldn't these persons be merely misled and deceived by the propaganda put out by the pro-death advocates and the media, and thus should not be considered liars for holding their opinions?" No, for moral truth is a matter of Natural Law, and this law is written upon the hearts of every person.
you don't have anything close to my iq, and i have no reason to believe you have any degree at all. you have butchered the english language, and logical reasoning, about 5000 times. LOL you have no degree kiddo. don't waste your time with that farce.
you still haven't proven that obama said anything that you quoted. and you are still unable to realize that abortion is an issue of opinion, not fact.
While mother and child are the first victims, there is not a single element of society that is not affected by abortion. Mother, child, father, husband, aunt, uncle, friend, sibling and grandparent alike suffer the scars of the abortionists scalpel. Peace abroad is meaningless without peace at home.
i have never said "babies are actually not people too" that is a blatant lie, and again, you run and run and run away to things that are lies that distract from the actuall issue. you are pathetic child.
STOPP was particularly outraged that, although Planned Parenthood is at the heart of this business, and everyone who testified before the congressional hearing in March was associated with Planned Parenthood, "our elected officials conspired to keep Planned Parenthood's name out of the hearing," Sedlak said. "The American people will not stand for this chicanery. It is time Planned Parenthood was held accountable for its actions."
i never said babies are not people. that is a blatant lie.
and your posting of #8 on a tpfstudentaction website posting is pathetic LOLOL can't speak on your own.. steal the words of others and act like they are yours.
the issue isn't about an argument of fact, you stupid asshole. LOLOL
it is about whether a woman can be forced to have a baby against her will. it is about her right to end a pregnancy. no fact comes into that, only ideals.
if it was again illegal, many women would again be sticking hangers in their uteri, which results in a lot of death, and many other injuries which often caused an inability to bear children in the future. educate yourself on a issue before you speak about it.
the source? are you serious? you must be about 17. you don't know that one of the huge battles cries in the late 60's and early 70's was to make abortion SAFE??? are you that uninformed? women resorted to all kinds of tactics to create an abortion before roe v wade. you need to get educated kiddo.
unless you HAVE blinders on, you f'n idiot. yeah, a person that constantly makes elementary school mistakes in spelling and grammar has "degrees". yeah. and i am the pope.
I wish his mama would've aborted him.
MrBolas33 1 month ago
@JosephCa64 are you retarded? In china abortion is NOT outlawed. It's a communist country aka liberal fasicism. Women are FORCED To get abortions. Why don't you actually do your research before making such stupid comments. Btw countries like UAE are very well off even though abortion is outlawed. Faggot.
TheEmoTronROBOTx 2 months ago
The truth is the second beating heart in the mother's womb is not hers. The second brain being developed in her womb is not hers. The second pair of eyes being developed in her womb is not hers. And so on. It belongs to her son or daughter and she has no right to kill him or her.
ForumLight 4 months ago
Unfortunately the liberal logic is similar to saying people are going to kill each other anyway, so rather than make it illegal, just give them guns.
ForumLight 4 months ago
@ForumLight Sorry..56 founders...3 owned slaves.....Next!
norr4636 1 week ago
I find this just bizarre:
Fundamentalist right wing Christians fight tooth and nail against Planned Parenthood. They falsely equate PP with abortion. They want to reduce the number of abortions.
Planned Parenthood works to reduce the number of unplanned pregnancies. This REDUCES the number of abortions.
The fundamentalists are actually against ANY contraception, which shows that they're living in the dark ages.
What is really bizarre is that one of the fundies might actually become President.
ndrthrdr1 5 months ago
@ndrthrdr1 Margret Sanger Founder was RACIST and if you support an organization supports killing black babies...You need to join the KKK....
norr4636 1 week ago
@norr4636 Margaret Sanger is dead. Why do pro-lifers obsess about her? Because it's a red herring to con gullible people into thinking that the eugenics idea, very popular a hundred years ago, is somehow related to today's issues.
George Washington owned slaves. What does that have to do with today's one dollar bill?
ndrthrdr1 1 week ago
@ndrthrdr1 ....not a active pro-lifter..but do not support racist organizations that is mainly in blacks communites....nice try..GEORGE WASHINGTON.....GIVE ME BREAK
norr4636 1 week ago
@norr4636 Planned Parenthood has clinics in poor neighborhoods, not in Beverly Hills. Gee, I wonder why?
Way to sidestep my valid point by simply saying "Give me a break." You don't respond directly to my point because you know that current events don't hinge on dead people ... unless, of course, you worship a human being who's been dead for 2,000 years.
ndrthrdr1 1 week ago
@ndrthrdr1 Well an organization which was founded never goes away from it's founder vision.
norr4636 1 week ago
@norr4636 Right. The country founded by slave owners never changed their position on the acceptability and legality of slavery. America must be intrinsically evil because of those upstanding founding fathers.
ndrthrdr1 1 week ago
@juliewaswhore88 --In NY city 40% of all pregnancies end in abortion, and of the 40%, the majority are black women, and this was what Margret Sanger intended to do: eliminate blacks. And Barrack lapps it up as if its a good idea.
WayOfTheMaster454 9 months ago
Ronald Reagan : "I've noticed that everyone who is for abortion has already
been....been....well,.....er.......um.......(???) ... already been...
(damn the mind is the first to go)...."
FishNoLegs 10 months ago
Its ironic how PP was founded in order to limit the numbers of "undesireables" in society but yet our ignorant president gladly bends over for them.
WayOfTheMaster454 10 months ago
Abortion is legal(period). If you don't like it, move to one of the wonderful bastions of civilization where they have already outlawed abortion. Places like China, or North Korea, or Iran, places where women are treated no better than dogs. And, if you think that's a coincidence, you might be a shit kicking, Jesus freak retard.
JosephCa64 11 months ago
A baby is a blessing not a punishment, Obama.
DeanClark68 1 year ago
@DeanClark68 Obama never said a baby was a punishment. Why is it necessary to put words in his mouth to make a point? Why is it necessary to take one sentence out of context to make a point?
Planned Parenthood provides low cost pap smears, check ups, treatment for STDs, and a myriad of other things that have nothing to do with abortion.
brt929 11 months ago
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FOCA - there is something really wrong with America if they are going to let this happen.
elegantlywasted100 1 year ago
the sad thing is that dipshits in this country eat this up.
CorrerPorVida 1 year ago 2
@CorrerPorVida It is the only way they can get them to continue to vote against their own financial interests. Read the comments, notice that the White Racists here are trying to gin up support among African Americans by calling it "black genocide."
Of course, no black or white woman is forced to have an abortion, that is up to them. Women just want to make sure that women of every color have the right to choose.
brt929 11 months ago
Obama is a race traitor. Most Planned Parenthood clinics are located in poor urban neighborhoods. Margaret Sanger true intentions for her organization was to euthanize African Americans to lower their population. Why do you think blacks are a minority, due to abortion. Watch a documentary in youtube called maafa black genocide.
Joey75Fit 1 year ago
If you agree that the ultimate decision has to remain with the woman, as several commenters here have said, then you are PRO-CHOICE. You can be pro-life while also pro-choice -- you just can't be anti-choice. You just can't be pro-criminalization. You can't be pro-doctor-murdering. But you can be pro-life.
doctorpsycho1960 1 year ago
When weighing the positives and negatives on the abortion issue, the only positive I can think of is that people who get them done tend to be democrats....
KingsorPawn 1 year ago
@KingsorPawn awh, I think even democrats have the right to Life. ;)
elegantlywasted100 1 year ago
Check out planned parenthood eugenics, racism, exposed on youtube.
2000yrCatholic 1 year ago
Pro-choicers always sound so selfish plus they don't give a damn about the baby.
DeanClark68 2 years ago
and yes... you are self-righteous. you think you know better than someone else what the right decision for their body and their life, and the potential life of a gestating being inside of the person is. no one is telling you when to have sex, when to have a child, or anything remotely like it. you choose for yourself, and others will choose for themselves. if you don't want anything to do with an abortion, then don't be involved. i would never force you to. just like abortion rights.
slyjokerg 2 years ago
The answer is not the debate of right or wrong, legal or illegal. The answer is educating our young men and ladies, and making sure they understand the consiquences of sex. If you think you are mature enough to take responsibility for yourself and have sex, then you should be mature enough to take responsibility for a child, born or unborn....period.
73petey 2 years ago
you are a self-righteous dink pete, and you lack common sense. if you think millions of people aren't going to have sex every day, regardless of your desire to mandate the subsequent happenings, you are nuts. if you think you get to control what others do regarding sex and pregnancy, then i, or anyone else has the right to control your sexual and reproductive decisions. there aren't necessarily consequences from sex. what a medieval, repressed way of thinking.
slyjokerg 2 years ago
Omg... I never even said I wanted to control sexual behavior!!! I just think it would be better if people are educated about the decisions they make. Self righteous??? That's stupid as hell man, I just lost alot of respect for you. I know I'm not perfect. I know I don't have all the answers, unlike you my friend. It's ok though, I still believe you have the right to your views. I believe that a repressed way of thinking is to believe that you can do what you want without ever thinking of others
73petey 2 years ago
wanting to force someone to have a baby, potentially, every time they have sex is de facto control of sexual behavior. your assumptions about someone that wants to have an abortion is not educated is an erroneous, blanket statement. *a lot, not alot. alot isn't a word. LMAO. my thinking is the opposite of repression, you dolt. i want woment to choose what to do with their uteri, not me, not you, and not the government. that's the polor opposite of repression or oppression.
slyjokerg 2 years ago
polar, sorry.
slyjokerg 2 years ago
Alrighty then, if you want to have a spelling contest you just blew that one up a wild hogs ass. "woment" should be women, "polor" should be polar, and it's obvious you don't understand any suggestion i've made here. I will say just think about your kids, maybe you would feel better if they understand everything that can happen with sex. Instead of saying " oh just have fun, you can always get an abortion".
73petey 2 years ago
Did anyone hear me say I dont believe in birth control??? I never once said that!!!!
73petey 2 years ago
obviously if someone typed a t on the end of women, that is a typo, and not a misspelling, dumbass. i corrected polar 5 seconds after i made the post, so that is out the window as well, idiot. you are a very small-minded fool. my kids are very well educated about sex. you seem to assume that every person that wants an abortion has been told not to worry, and to just have fun. you are an idiot. if you think that people that get pregnant don't know how it happens, you are a level 5 moron.
slyjokerg 2 years ago
It looks like all you are good at is throwing a little pussy fit and calling people names....... What a waste of my time to argue with a childish level 6 dick head like you.
73petey 2 years ago
LOL chastize someone for name calling, then call them a childish dickhead HAHAHAHAHA. f'n comical.
all i am good for is dominating foolish idiots in debate, such as went on here regarding sex and personal freedoms. you are a repressed, brainwashed clown.
slyjokerg 2 years ago
hey he does have a point man---ur insult was uncalled for. If you know the truth then you dont have any reason for name calling. Obviously he knows ur right cuz he is the one that resorted to it first cuz his ego wont allow him to admit his wrong. So just chill man. you made ur point and thats all you can do. I just told him he needs to do his research cuz he has no idea what he is talkin about. I volunteer at the pregnancy center where I live so I know ur right--its a human at conception
TheJesusFanatic100 2 years ago
You are right man, I went overboard with it because i just tried to make a point and then I got attacked....I'll keep my cool next time. Thanks for the reply
73petey 2 years ago
Okay first off yeah ultimately the decision is the woman's to make. I do give you that one. On the other hand, however, I think that she should know all the facts before she makes that horrible decision plus what she wants to do wit her own body is up to her ut she is tryin to abort someone elses body which is MURDER plain and simple!! Research ur fact buddy before you debate someone about this cuz researchers already confirmed that its a human at conception!!!
TheJesusFanatic100 2 years ago
Obama is going to go to hell if he doesn't change his ways.
Havocsaddler 2 years ago
what a fucking stupid nigger. so stupid.
ahrberg16 2 years ago
If you could use a little help with an unplanned pregnancy please visit my channel for details.
Choose life!
sIoppyjosef 2 years ago
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TheSWORDOFTRUTH12 2 years ago
For a start, this isnt about anyone's rights, it is about Genocide and depopulation. See de-population agenda videos: Codex Alimentarus, Georgia Guidestones and Depopulation, Denver Airport Murals, Trials of Henry Kissinger, Rockefeller speaks abour depopulation.
TheSWORDOFTRUTH12 2 years ago
naturalshit has no idea of what debating is, and had no intention of it. he wanted only to lie about what i have said, and other facts in an effort to portray himself as winning. he doesn't understand that abortion is a topic that amounts to opinion. he can't get over it. he can't accept that abortion is legal and that people support that reality. so he goes off his f'n rock and throws all kinds of bs around to deflect.
ABORTION IS LEGAL
GOTCHA
slyjokerg 2 years ago
Torture is legal too.
Abortion is being used as a depopulation tool by the W.T.O. and W.H.O. ... Look into it.
TheSWORDOFTRUTH12 2 years ago
i don't need to look into your insane paranoia.
and torture is not about a person having autonomy over her own uterus. non sequitur.
slyjokerg 2 years ago
Good job, you win and millions of potential human beings lose thier hope of life... bet you are proud of yourself for being such a wonderful and intelligent person slyjoker, bet youre glad you got a chance to be born too.
73petey 2 years ago
it is a good job by me, yes.. but i don't win anything. every woman in the country does. potential human beings don't trump the rights of the already existing human beings. i am proud of myself on this issue, yes. very much so. i am not glad i had a chance to be born, as i wouldn't know anything about it had i never been born, let alone conceived. that can only be contemplated from the selfish standpoint of wanting to be alive in the reality that exists with me having been born.
slyjokerg 2 years ago
SLY JOKER should be ban
He's been doing this chicken shit and can't seem to properly debate me.
He failed to provide facts.
Naturalhit 2 years ago
SLY JOKER = TROLL
Naturalhit 2 years ago
naturalshit=troll that makes up quotes
ABORTION IS LEGAL, WE WIN
GOTCHA!!!!!
slyjokerg 2 years ago
I have quotes with sources to back it up.
You have none..
POOR SLY JOKER...you really live up to your name.
Naturalhit 2 years ago
quotes aren't facts. you post opinions as if people have to agree!!!! we don't!!! abortion can't be proven to be wrong!!! it can only be stated as an opinion!!!!
ABORTION IS LEGAL, WE WIN. THERE IS NO LOSING, WE ALREADY WON!!!
slyjokerg 2 years ago
ABORTION IS MURDER..IT'S BABY THT YOU ARE BEATING ON NOT ON ME.
You lose.
Naturalhit 2 years ago
abortion is literally not murder!!!!!!! LOLOLOL factually it is not murder!!!! nowhere in the united states can a woman be charged with murder for having an abortion!!!! YOU LOSE!!!!
ABORTION IS LEGAL!!! WE WIN!!!!
slyjokerg 2 years ago
LOSER....
KEEP running.
GOTCHA
Naturalhit 2 years ago
you haven't provided one fact that proves abortion is wrong!!!! not one. you can only provide opinions!!!!
ABORTION IS LEGAL!!!
GOTCHA!!!
slyjokerg 2 years ago
SLY JOKER is chicken shit
I WON YOU LOSE..YOU FAILED TO PROVIDE FACTS
GOTCHA
Naturalhit 2 years ago
naturalshit is a liar that won't confront anyone!!! he is a pussy ass that can't admit he lost!!!! he can't provide one fact that proves abortion is wrong, only opinions!!!!
ABORTION IS LEGAL, I WIN!!!!
slyjokerg 2 years ago
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SLY JOKER is chicken shit
I WON YOU LOSE..YOU FAILED TO PROVIDE FACTS
GOTCHA
Naturalhit 2 years ago
NA Na NAAA na NAAA na..
You lose chicken shit.
No proof just opinion...what a loser. ..sign of a low IQ with poor perception and use of logic
Naturalhit 2 years ago
it is enjoyable to make fun of those that lost and can't accept it. the chickenshits that can't debate, and can't accept reality, are really sad little twits.
ABORTION IS LEGAL!!!!
GOTCHA!!!! I WIN
slyjokerg 2 years ago
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SLY JOKER is chicken shit
I WON YOU LOSE..YOU FAILED TO PROVIDE FACTS
GOTCHA
Naturalhit 2 years ago
You can't debate.
LOL.....you can't give any facts or proof of anything.
Keep running. because I'm beating you ass down.
Naturalhit 2 years ago
you never had any desire to debate. just tell lies about what i said and try to spin bs to suit you. you have no proof of anything that is disputed. everything biological is a fact. abortion being wrong or right is an opinion, not fact. you can't even debate why you think what you think LOL you just attack others
ABORTION IS LEGAL... I WIN.. GOTCHA
slyjokerg 2 years ago
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SLY JOKER is chicken shit
I WON YOU LOSE..YOU FAILED TO PROVIDE FACTS
GOTCHA
Naturalhit 2 years ago
Try this again from the same college sociologist: fetus and a baby, an embryo and a child, etc. Then have students understand that all language will either affirm or deny the personhood and humanity of those around us. Have them track the language they hear throughout the day, counting how many dehumanizing terms they encounter in the hallways, on radio (especially rap songs), in magazines, etc.
Naturalhit 2 years ago
peoples declarations about when human life begins doesn't provide proof that abortion is wrong!!!! abortion being right or wrong is an opinion!!!!
ABORTION IS LEGAL, WE WIN!!!
slyjokerg 2 years ago
Hey ASSHOLE
Are you going to stay in place or what?
Naturalhit 2 years ago
You still have no proof.
You are losing big time. You can't argue with facts.
Show me some scientific facts then
Naturalhit 2 years ago
you still have no proof!!!! you are losing big time!!!! you can't prove that abortion is wrong!!! you can only state opinions!!!!! show me some scientific facts that it is wrong, and not just your opinion!!!!
ABORTION IS LEGAL!!! WE WIN!!!
GOTCHA!!!
slyjokerg 2 years ago
I WON YOU FAILED TO PROVIDE FACTS
You keep running around. Sign of a loser.
Naturalhit 2 years ago
Check this out.
SO far 102k women have died from abortion complication since the passing of Roe v. Wade.
Here's my source: LA TIMES February 28, 2002 in Los Angeles, CA
Naturalhit 2 years ago
The language used by abortionists reflects their desire to deny personhood to the pre-born child. Terms such as "products of conception" mask the human reality of the child in the womb.
Naturalhit 2 years ago
jezebel(dot)com/5012632/the-coat-hanger-may-be-the-symbol-but-is-in-no-way-a-myth-says-pre+roe-ob+gyn
slyjokerg 2 years ago
Ohhooooo.....
Then why are women using this hanger thing today? Why risk the embarrassment of going to PP?
You failed. You provided a website that doesn't even work. HAHAHAHA
Naturalhit 2 years ago
women aren't using hangers today. they don't have to, you idiot. they can go have a legal abortion. that is why they don't use hangers. use some commone sense. there is no embarrassment of going to PP or any other facility. you assume ridiculous things in the name of other people. i provided a link that shot you to hell HAHAHAHA.
you haven't provided any relevant facts. just things you think justifiy denying abortion rights. there is no fact that proves abortion is wrong. it is opinion.
slyjokerg 2 years ago
A person you can't say things right and uses words that doesn't mean anything and then say things that's twisted and then later on try to deny it is lame...moron.
You have no IQ at all. You failed to provide facts like I have.
Naturalhit 2 years ago
You are losing and now you admit that a fetus is a human being.
Asshole... you tried disproving it but you can't. You tried telling you never said that, but now I have you.
I have more non-religious scientific facts for your fucking ass.
Naturalhit 2 years ago
i don't admit that a fetus is a human being. but i will allow you to claim it in the argument. focus on that. get over the nonsense. you can't. you want to argue about bs. you want to try to make shit up to discredit someone, when i never said it. you can suck me.
slyjokerg 2 years ago
The Developing Human: Clinically Oriented Embryology4 (pp 2-18): "Zygote: this cell results from the union of an oocyte and a sperm. A zygote is the beginning of a new human being (i.e., an embryo). Human development begins at fertilization, the process during which a male gamete or sperm ... unites with a female gamete or oocyte ... to form a single cell called a zygote. This highly specialized, totipotent cell marks the beginning of each of us as a unique individual."
Naturalhit 2 years ago
Essentials of Human Embryology5 (pp. 1-17): "In this text, we begin our description of the developing human with the formation and differentiation of the male and female sex cells or gametes, which will unite at fertilization to initiate the embryonic development of a new individual. ...
Naturalhit 2 years ago
Human development begins at fertilization, the process during which a male gamete or sperm ... unites with a female gamete or oocyte ... to form a single cell called a zygote. This highly specialized, totipotent cell marks the beginning of each of us as a unique individual."
Naturalhit 2 years ago
yes, human development begins at fertilization. duh. that is known to all, and doesn't need to be said. lol no shit. it marks the beginning of a potential human being, not a human being. as you should well know, a substantial number of conceptions end in spontaneous abortion, miscarriages, and stillbirths. not all conceptions are lives. conception is the potential of person, not a person.
slyjokerg 2 years ago
GOTCHA...you said human.
Just like you said. "a woman can kill a human being inside of her if she wants too."
Very poor IQ there. Try reading my sources again, because youhave no idea what a human being is...a person.
Naturalhit 2 years ago
Human Embryology & Teratology6 (pp. 5-55): "Fertilization is an important landmark because, under ordinary circumstances, a new, genetically distinct human organism is thereby formed... Fertilization is the procession of events that begins when a spermatozoon makes contact with a secondary oocyte or its investments...
Naturalhit 2 years ago
yes, an organism is formed on conception. very good. you are learning basic human biology. nice. what dr david brewer says is his opinion. his opinion doesn't control mine, and it doesn't control the constitution or roe v wade. sorry. his words are his thoughts and aren't the law. it can have a head, a heart, two arms, two legs, and w/e else.. and the woman can still abort it. that is because it is inside her body, and that gives her the right to abort w/e you call it. sorry, but facts are facts
slyjokerg 2 years ago
HAHAHAHA
His opinion...dumbass...that's a scientist.
Poor argument on your part there.
Nice try.
Naturalhit 2 years ago
it is brewers opinion. he isn't stating any fact about abortion being legal or not. he is expressing his thoughts. his thoughts don't create law, and they certainly don't make anyone else have to agree with him. LOL duh.
yes, a woman could kill a human being gestating inside of her if she chooses. we have gone over that countless times. why keep repeating it? it is true, she can abort w/e you want to call the gestating being. very high iq here. 146. it doesn't change.
slyjokerg 2 years ago
But you change position so that I would stop bagging on you. In the beginning you said not human and now you said human.
You're just like Pres. Obama who said abortion is wrong and I will everything to minimize it and then said I will not allow them to be punish with a baby.
Naturalhit 2 years ago
i haven't changed position once. a woman can have an abortion no matter what you call the being inside her uterus. i haven't changed that once kiddo. hahahahaha.. you lose again. i haven't changed one inch
obama never said abortion is wrong. that is just another blatant lie you keep repeating. if you think he thinks it is wrong, then how could he say it would be puninshing someone? you contradict yourself, stupid asshole!!! LOLOL smoked again. big time LMAO
slyjokerg 2 years ago
LMAO...
You changed postion so many times. We debated about a fetus as a human being for 3 days and I finally beat you to it till you said
"A woman can kill a human being inside of her if she wants too."
GOTCHA
Naturalhit 2 years ago
HAHAHAHA....abortion is legal because of stupid people who told lies.
Funny how they convert to our side. So now you have to look for other excuses.
Naturalhit 2 years ago
first, if abortion is legal because of stupid people telling lies, then why do you kiss those people's asses??? LOLOLOLOL smoked again.
second, abortion is legal because of a fundamental issue that the supreme court addressed. nothing more, nothing less. learn history.
slyjokerg 2 years ago
Abortion is legal because of stupid people like you that tell lies.
You say fetus is nothing more than a tissue...remember that. I got you by your own words.
SO KISS MY ASS... you lose.
Naturalhit 2 years ago
"no, to destroy SOME of the stages is to end the possibility of human life."
Remember that? See how stupid you are.
Destroy any stages and you end a human life. GOTCHA
Naturalhit 2 years ago
abortion is safe and legal GOTCHA
slyjokerg 2 years ago
abortion is murder GOTCHA
Naturalhit 2 years ago
SLY JOKER is an IDIOT GOTCHA.
No proof.
Naturalhit 2 years ago
proof = roe v wade
ABORTION IS SAFE AND LEGAL
GOTCHA!!!
slyjokerg 2 years ago
Roe lied and is now on our side
FACT: 256K women have had complication during abortion and have died. So much for being safe.
GOTCHA AGAIN.
Naturalhit 2 years ago
mccorvey being on any side doesn't change the supreme court decision that made abortion legal
ABORTION IS SAFE AND LEGAL
GOTCHA
FAR FAR FAR FAR MORE THAN 256K WOMEN HAVE HAD CHILDBIRTH COMPLICATIONS, WITH MANY DYING!!!
GOTCHA AGAIN!!!!
slyjokerg 2 years ago
NICE TRY ASSHOLE
You troll. Trying to jump from one side to another.
You failed to back tht up with proof.
HAHAHA I got proof on my side. I beat you.
Naturalhit 2 years ago
NICE TRY ASSHOLE
you are a not a very good troll. you accuse someone of being a troll, but do what you accuse them of doing before they do it. that doesn't make sense.
no one knows that mccorvey lied!!! lolol she could be lying now!!!! and i have read up on what happened far more extensively than you have !!!! you lose again!!!! you have no proof that abortion is wrong!!! you only have opinions!!!!
ABORTION IS LEGAL, WE WIN
GOTCHA!
slyjokerg 2 years ago
FUCK YOU...you are losing.
You keep going off because you are losing.
Just like you guys lost McCorvey. To bad her lies legalized abortion.
Even she admits it and repents. Just watch her video.
Naturalhit 2 years ago
But you can see how McCOrvey lied.
You can read up on her and how she did it.
Too bad you lost her to us. BOOWHOOO
GOTCHA!!!
Naturalhit 2 years ago
continue...
The denial of the fact that the fetus is a person is a time-honored tactic. Throughout history, we see examples of people being denied their personhood. Have students choose one example and compare it to the current abortion debate. Examples can include: black slaver, women's rights, Jews in Nazi Germany, mentally challenged.
Naturalhit 2 years ago
BTW sly joker that's from a socialogist and not a religious person.
I got more from this same person.
Naturalhit 2 years ago
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opinions are opinions
ABORTION IS SAFE AND LEGAL
GOTCHA!!!
slyjokerg 2 years ago
continue:
"I opened the sock up and I put it on the towel and there were parts in there of a person. I'd taken anatomy; I was a medical student. I knew what I was looking at. There was a little scapula [shoulder blade] and there was an arm, and I saw some ribs and a chest, and I saw a little tiny head, and I saw a piece of a leg, and I saw a tiny hand. ...
Naturalhit 2 years ago
How that for sources huh?
Now let's see yours?
Instead of giving me stupid website that doesn't show anything. You are pathetic.
Naturalhit 2 years ago
brewer is a source of a person that has an opinion, that you copied and pasted as evidence of?????? what is the evidence his words are supposed to create? do his words mean that no one else, and no other doctor can have a differing opinion? you are pathetic. he isn't a source of fact about whether abortion is legal or should be. he has an opinion, and millions of people have opposing views including countless doctors. it isn't a popularity contest in the first place. constitutionality rules.
slyjokerg 2 years ago
You have no proof...
You keep giving your opinion w/o any facts at all.
In the beginning you keep denying that it's not a human being. Now that you are losing you have to say it is a human being.
GOTCHA BIG TIME BITCH
Naturalhit 2 years ago
no have no proof. you have no proof that abortion is wrong. you only have opinion. i think abortion is a fundamental right that everyone should support. no facts involved on either side. just opinions. i don't have to say it is a human being, but lets say it is to satisfy you in the conversation. it is a human being, from the moment of conception. now what will you argue about? LOL nothing left to say. i have never had an opinion that depended on what you call the gestating being. LOL
slyjokerg 2 years ago
No proof...I've been giving it to you all night long.
You are blowing shit off your ass with nothing to prove. Where's you fact that said a fetus is not a human being?
You said "hambuglar" "Dinosaur" Pretty pathetic So much for your IQ.
Naturalhit 2 years ago
you have given no proof that abortion factually is wrong. you can only give opinion. that is all there is to give.
i am the farthest thing from a nazi that there is. i detest nazis. so that was moronic. what a shock, coming from you.
no one is experimenting on anyone in an abortion. it is simple. end the pregnancy. there is no experimenting going on during an abortion. you are the nazi by trying to control women's bodies.
slyjokerg 2 years ago
Here's my othe source and I want you to read it.
Noncognitivism: Evaluative claims are not genuine assertions, they cannot be true or
false, correct or incorrect.
Cognitivism: Evaluations are genuine assertions, they can be true or false, correct or
incorrect. (Our main course authors, Mill and Locke, go for cognitivism.)
continue
Naturalhit 2 years ago
Opinions are not the same as facts..
Get it. You keep blowing up your information with nothig to back it up. What else are you to say... it s a person, but we can kill it anyway.
Naturalhit 2 years ago
u r starting to learn. opinions are not facts. very good. you are catching on. you have no more information than i do.
a gestating being is inside a woman. does she have the right to not have it in her any more?
that is all there is. your chasing of "facts" is meaningless. it doesn't matter what you call the gestating being kiddo. it isn't pertinent.
slyjokerg 2 years ago
If women (and their male sexual partners) had to examine the results of their abortions,7 there would be a lot fewer abortions in the world. As long as the fetus is just a "blob of tissue" abortion will continue to be widely practiced. This is why abortion advocates oppose any attempts to provide women with scientific, unbiased information on fetal development. Ignorance is bliss. Feticide is legal.
Naturalhit 2 years ago
your assertion that something would create less abortions in the world is pretty silly. first, the man has no say. and shouldn't. it isn't his body. second, you are stating something that you want to be true without evidence. no one opposes any woman having whatever factual information she wants. abortion is legal.
slyjokerg 2 years ago
You're no different from those nazi and those people who enslave other people. You first dehumanized it so that you don't feel guilty and then you kill it.
Naturalhit 2 years ago
i am very different than a nazi, as i couldn't care less what religion or ethnicity anyone is. meaningless to me.
slyjokerg 2 years ago
You are a nazi and you are evil.
They experimented on people. Try to erradicate a race and try to erradicate people with handicap.
How that for abortion and its killing of innocent babies?
Naturalhit 2 years ago
You know I'm losing IQ just debating you, but that's OK because I love when I only have to use half of my brain.
You failed. When you said, "babies are actually not people too."
Then you said, "babies are not people because they don't vote or own property."
GOTCHA
Naturalhit 2 years ago
you are losing iq. that is for sure. you started low, and it is getting worse as you go. i have succeeded at every turn. babies are people, as every person knows. your lies just make you look stupid. you just keep repeating the same nonsense because it is all you have. your ridiculous lies. LOL you are a joke GOTCHA AGAIN
slyjokerg 2 years ago
First you said Obama never said baby.
Now I gave a source and now you are losing.
Even your President admits it's a baby inside a woman.
FACTS ARE FACTS
Naturalhit 2 years ago
i have lost nothing
you lose.
i am done with your childish nonsense.
abortion is legal, as it should be. that is all that matters.
slyjokerg 2 years ago
You lose big time.
You proven nothing and all you can say is abortion is legal.
Poor debate...I've proven wrong that abortion pass because of a lie told by Roe.
Naturalhit 2 years ago
I'm only using parts of my IQ to beat your ass down.
You still dont' have any proof after I told you to bring some.
I don't go by opinion or your I don't care saying.
Naturalhit 2 years ago
a hanger is very effective in abortin a pregnancy. you have no education on the history of the issue.
slyjokerg 2 years ago
hanger is very effective in abortin a pregnancy.
LOL.....hahahaha....I can't type anymore because this is too funny.
where's you proof then. why don't we see more of this? I mean wouldn't they be saved from humiliation.
Naturalhit 2 years ago
a hanger if very effective yes. that is a known fact. it was used very commonly prior to roe v wade. again you fixate on something that you know nothing about obviously.
we don't see it.. duh... because abortion is legal you dumbass.. LOLOLOL
hahahahahaha
women are more concerned with having a safe abortion than being humiliated. and you assume that women are humiliated by having an abortion in every case. hahahahahahahaha you are a clueless tool
slyjokerg 2 years ago
HAHAHAHAHA
Stick that hanger up your ASS!!!!
Show me sources then and how effective it is.
You lose asshole
Naturalhit 2 years ago
are you insane?
you really don't know about coat hanger abortions? back-alley abortions? do you think these terms just came out of nowhere for no reason? are you f'n serious? HAHAHAHAHA nothing you have said has any meaning
slyjokerg 2 years ago
you are a rube. you don't know anything about the history of the issue. you are a joke and a waste of time. i am sorry i tried.
slyjokerg 2 years ago
HAHAHAHA....
first of all where is your proof. Nothing. You keep blowing thing off your ass. You keep messing up on your words and I am able to capitalize on it.
Try this one by you: a woman can kill a human being, or anything else, gestating inside her body. yes a human being anything that you assert is a human being, she can kill it.
HAHAHAHA... and you've been saying that is not a human being. GOTCHA
Naturalhit 2 years ago
HAHAHAH first of all, where is your proof? nothing. you keep blowing things OUT of your ass. LOL. you keep messing up on YOUR words and i don't even need to capitalize on it, but it sure is funny.
try this one: a woman can kill a human being, or anything else gestating inside her body. yes a human being. if it is gestating inside her body, yes she can kill it.
i have been saying you can call it a human being FOR THE SAKE OF ARGUMENT. it doesn't matter to me on the core issue.
slyjokerg 2 years ago
continue: I checked it out and there were two arms and two legs and one head, etc., and I turned and said, I guess you got it all ... It was pretty awful that first time... it was like somebody put a hot poker into me."
Naturalhit 2 years ago
a woman can kill a human being, or anything else, gestating inside her body. yes a human being anything that you assert is a human being, she can kill it.
slyjokerg 2 years ago
HAHAHAHAHAHA
You said human being.
Oh, I got to save this one.
Naturalhit 2 years ago
and regardless of human life being definable by stages of development, according to anyone... the stage of development is not the only issue. you always fail to recognize that there is a literal distinction in physical reality between being gestating inside of a woman, and being born. there is a literal tangible, physical difference. you think the difference doesn't matter, and i think it matters more than anything on this issue.
slyjokerg 2 years ago
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Let's try it again. From a politician:
You may ask, "But couldn't these persons be merely misled and deceived by the propaganda put out by the pro-death advocates and the media, and thus should not be considered liars for holding their opinions?" No, for moral truth is a matter of Natural Law, and this law is written upon the hearts of every person.
Naturalhit 2 years ago
Try this one:
abortion is that of a human action to prevent the continuation of a human life
Naturalhit 2 years ago
abortion is the choosing of a woman to discontinue being pregnant.
slyjokerg 2 years ago
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abortion is that of a human action to prevent the continuation of a human life
Naturalhit 2 years ago
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I'll say it again:
abortion is that of a human action to prevent the continuation of a human life
Naturalhit 2 years ago
Ahhhh...
Nice to be in education sys. huh.. I have sources to pull out and you got opinion to pull out your ass.
Naturalhit 2 years ago
i am far more educated that you.
the issue isn't about pure fact, you stupid asshole. if it was, there would be no arguing. get a f'n clue.
slyjokerg 2 years ago
I have far more IQ than you and I have degrees that you can't even touch.
SO far you have no facts. You have no clue and you have no way of winning because I don't care doesn't cut it. HA
Naturalhit 2 years ago
you don't have anything close to my iq, and i have no reason to believe you have any degree at all. you have butchered the english language, and logical reasoning, about 5000 times. LOL you have no degree kiddo. don't waste your time with that farce.
you still haven't proven that obama said anything that you quoted. and you are still unable to realize that abortion is an issue of opinion, not fact.
slyjokerg 2 years ago
No I guess teaching junior history and biology doesn't mean I don't have any education huh?
Asshole, you got nothing but a poor IQ. Atleast you keep me entertain though till school starts.
Naturalhit 2 years ago
While mother and child are the first victims, there is not a single element of society that is not affected by abortion. Mother, child, father, husband, aunt, uncle, friend, sibling and grandparent alike suffer the scars of the abortionists scalpel. Peace abroad is meaningless without peace at home.
Naturalhit 2 years ago
you are pasting all kinds of shit other people said LOL
prove he said the exact words "I will not allow them to be punish with a baby." if you can't, i have no reason to believe he said it.
slyjokerg 2 years ago
I can type 62wpm.
And I have the sources. Where's yours?
Naturalhit 2 years ago
Pretty sad you put a profile of OBama and his daughter as an image for your profile.
When he said, "I will not allow them to be punish with a baby."
Just like you said "babies are actually not people too."
Sad, you dehumanize first and then terminate.
Naturalhit 2 years ago
i have never said "babies are actually not people too" that is a blatant lie, and again, you run and run and run away to things that are lies that distract from the actuall issue. you are pathetic child.
slyjokerg 2 years ago
Oh yeah, just like you said, "a woman can kill a human being inside of her if she wants too."
HMMM... I GOTCHA
Naturalhit 2 years ago
0 gotchas yet LOL NONE.. LMAO not one.
but lets do what you want.
A WOMAN CAN KILL A HUMAN BEING, WHICH IS ANY FORM OF HUMAN DEVELOPMENT INSIDE HER BODY THROUGH AN ABORTION.
now what do you have to argue about? LMAO
slyjokerg 2 years ago
STOPP was particularly outraged that, although Planned Parenthood is at the heart of this business, and everyone who testified before the congressional hearing in March was associated with Planned Parenthood, "our elected officials conspired to keep Planned Parenthood's name out of the hearing," Sedlak said. "The American people will not stand for this chicanery. It is time Planned Parenthood was held accountable for its actions."
GOTCHA AGAIN
Naturalhit 2 years ago
I have 999999 GOTCHA on you.
Problem is I have so many sources at hand and I wish I could put them all up for you to see.
Naturalhit 2 years ago
Must be nice of you to say this:
"babies are actually not people because they don't vote or own property."
What a way to dehumanize someone.
Naturalhit 2 years ago
i never said babies are not people. that is a blatant lie.
and your posting of #8 on a tpfstudentaction website posting is pathetic LOLOL can't speak on your own.. steal the words of others and act like they are yours.
slyjokerg 2 years ago
I don't lie if you haven't notice that.
I saved everything you said in my notepad.
"babies are actually not people because they don't vote or own property."
and this one too: "a woman can kill a human being growing in her womb too."
Naturalhit 2 years ago
the issue isn't about an argument of fact, you stupid asshole. LOLOL
it is about whether a woman can be forced to have a baby against her will. it is about her right to end a pregnancy. no fact comes into that, only ideals.
slyjokerg 2 years ago
Well then tell her to jam up a hanger up her crotch.
According to you it is very effective. HAHAHAHA.
You can't argue with the facts you stupid ass because you got none.
So you have nothing else to go by.
Naturalhit 2 years ago
if it was again illegal, many women would again be sticking hangers in their uteri, which results in a lot of death, and many other injuries which often caused an inability to bear children in the future. educate yourself on a issue before you speak about it.
slyjokerg 2 years ago
HAHAHAHAHA
I'm lmao!!!!!
stick a hanger up her crotch is your proof? where's the source?
Naturalhit 2 years ago
the source? are you serious? you must be about 17. you don't know that one of the huge battles cries in the late 60's and early 70's was to make abortion SAFE??? are you that uninformed? women resorted to all kinds of tactics to create an abortion before roe v wade. you need to get educated kiddo.
slyjokerg 2 years ago
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
NO SOURCE.. how sad :(
Naturalhit 2 years ago
I sent you a video.
Unless you got blinders on and close your ears then you can say what source?
You lose.
Naturalhit 2 years ago
HAHAHAHAHAHA
"unless you got blinders on"
yeah, you have degrees
unless you HAVE blinders on, you f'n idiot. yeah, a person that constantly makes elementary school mistakes in spelling and grammar has "degrees". yeah. and i am the pope.
slyjokerg 2 years ago