A History of Hebrew Part 5: Old Hebrew and Phoenician

[MightyZarkon]

Making a scientific argument using the bible flood story of Noah that is supposed to explain where races come from is asinine. For one, the flood story is not semitic or Hebrew or Jewish. Moses, as you may recall, was a Pharaoh. Jews /Hyksos invaded Egypt around 1800 BC and were kicked out in around 1200 BC, much too early for the Flood(~9620BC). The Hyksos became Israel with a new identity only after stealing Egypts wealth, secrets, and knowledge. Before that they were just average barbarians.

[albertsneijMD]

very good production

[VictorLepanto]

@ 2:07: You show ,what I assume, must be a Phoenician coin. I am fascinated by the flower image on this coin. It resembles the traditional cross of the St. Thomas Christians of India. Their Greco-form cross has flowering buds on its three upper arms.

[shadyev992]

The north Africans are not BLACK they do have lighter complextion than those in west Africa and east Africa is also a bit darker than the northerns Africans but lighter than the west Africans.

[peteliuz79]

Awesome Middle-eastern music! Who is the artist? I love the biblical Hebrew culture! Going back to Avraham's tent :)

[ancienthebreworg]

@peteliuz79 The artist is Callen Clark.

[reality00000]

Phoenicians built the first boat way before the biblical Noah. They are the modern day Lebanese Maronites Catholics there are Phoenician bloodline in most white blood countries around the world. They are not direct relations of the Jews or any other Arab neighbour. They have had many marriages over the thousands of years. Jews and the Palatines are direct relatives.

Can anyone please answer me why the Phoenician history is forbidden to be thought in Australia and other Western countries?

[marbanak]

Dear @reality00000

I don't think it's forbidden. It's just jot covered. Like a lot of other things that are important to us. One thing is skipped over for another.

[reality00000]

@marbanak, Research history, I've found our way of living is based on the blue print, the Phoenicians introduced to the Romans and the Greeks & other civilisations. My question is why would anyone want to cover, skip or forget to mention it while at school? Instead we are forced to learn or fail at school about Greek History based on Myth. Myths are stories based on unfounded truth. We credit the Greeks for the alphabet the Phoenicians invented, yet they can't prove how or when it was invented.

[MrViTopol]

@reality00000 It's supressed cuz so many so called 'scientists'' made very lucrative careers on ''greek'' / ''roman'' pseudo history, and they'll never allow anybody to rock the boat that feeds them...

[MrViTopol]

@reality00000 It's supressed cuz so many so called 'scientists'' made very lucrative careers on ''greek'' / ''roman'' pseudo history, and they'll never allow anybody to rock the boat that feeds them...

[sbz666283]

@reality00000 not before noah lol. A group of people can't exist before the father was alive. pheonicans isnt a dirty word its just alot of posers claim them or deny them outright. cause people try to link them to living people and a race that was wiped out making things not quite right.

[NUITpoet]

=V=

[rasrober69]

lern what thay teach it was stolen from me famly and the book sed that all will pray to hashem even the eavil one will prays God in the end It is when the true of yahweh Is in the lite and the one that did the wrong the true jewdean are give the true and Thay come back to God the world will be as it was the true is the Isreallite where stolen to take to land Pland By The Hieorder In greas And rome to rob the People and the land CHAIN LIKE THE BOOK SED And Takein

[rasrober69]

The reel jew s where Black Why Are The Little german people face showing

[ancienthebreworg]

@rasrober69 Black? Really? Oy Vey

[KungFuRico]

The truth is that we have received our alphabet or phonetics from the Canaanites! History and archeology should prove this statement. Also this video touches on the subject a little only to say that all three alphabets from the Samaritans, the Shemites, and the Canaanites had matched. The inventors has always been the sons of Ham! Also to add that the Shemites looked like the sons of Ham, so they too are a dark race of people. Unlike the Gentiles in the land today!

[ancienthebreworg]

@KungFuRico I guess you can beleive what ever you want. Personally, I will put my trust in hard science, not fantasy.

[ancienthebreworg]

@rasrober69 I know Hebrew and some Yiddish, these are two very different languages.

[KungFuRico]

@ancienthebreworg Where in my statement was there anything about fantasy? Did you read what was stated? In the above statement I also said that Archeology should prove the statement and thats not fantasy. If you think that the people in the land are of the real Israelites, then you live in fantasy. Those people are from Germany, Russia, and Poland. The son's of Japheth, which means to enlarge through deception. And thats just what they have done!

[ancienthebreworg]

@KungFuRico How about giving me your "proof" from archeology?

[KungFuRico]

@ancienthebreworg Okay you have the Lemba Tribe, and the Falasha Tribe with DNA evidence. In Egypt you have the paintings on the walls of the people of God as they called them. Which were sheep herders like the people of Israel, they were a dark race of people. Do your research of a Gentile according to the bible and you will see that the Ashkenazi, and Khazars are in fact Gentile. Hailing from Europe! Sons of Japheth.

[ancienthebreworg]

@KungFuRico True, the Lemba and Falasha DNA prove Semitic origins, but so do many people around the world including the Jews. All this proves is that they come from a Semitic people, a common ancestry. Ancient Semites were dark skinned, but through intermarriages some skin colors have lightened. You still have provided no proof of your claim.

[Amocee]

@ancienthebreworg How about geography...that should be easier to comprehend...hmm over 400 yrs in Egyptian captivity-the Israelites are mistaken for Egyptians when they go to bury Jacob...hmm everyone should know Ancient Egypt was nationally an dark complexioned ppl residing in N. Afrika...hmm before the Suez Canal there was a natural land bridge connecting Ancient Yisrael toEgypt...so here we are today...

[Amocee]

@ancienthebreworg CON> so riddle me this pls...How does a white complexion European featured ppl come out of mixing for-400 yrs- and not enter into the Ancient Land a majority dark skinned ppl? Even the famous mythological story of Jesus would be untrue if he was Caucasian, in Ancient Egypt they would have picked him out right away. I know this must be disturbing to you because it was to me at first...but TRUTH is TRUTH no matter what color it is...again I have more proof if you desire it.

[ancienthebreworg]

@Amocee According to Jewish halachah, one is a Jew as long as the mother is Jewish. With this philosophy, a person can be Jewish and white, brown, yellow, red or black through intermarriage in only a few generations.

[Amocee]

@ancienthebreworg Right but this is the problem... scripturally the lineage has always gone through the father hence Abraham, Issac, and Jacob...I'll start sending you info later today...thanks for being open minded.

[MrViTopol]

@ancienthebreworg there was no 'halakhah' in Egypt 'bondage''... hence your 'explanations' fail. beside. there was no 'Exodus'. where would the crowds 'lead' by 'Moses' escape to? when Canaan was a Egyptian colony at that time, with egyptian military garrisons stationed there... myths shouldn't be presented as history. it's not healthy...

[CadaverSplatter]

Nonsense.

[YAHWEHisperfect]

ancient hebrew letters...YHWH showed me lots of things thru them...why don't u only use ancient hebrew in ur presentations...?

also, how could it be that new testament was supposedly written in greek? u made claim that mathwiew was written in hebrew....but why would paul write in greek?

every word and letter in hebrew has a meaning...and those meanings would be lost that way....

[ancienthebreworg]

@YAHWEHisperfect This series is about the history of the alphabet and language, from its original pictographic script to its modern use. In other videos I go into detail about the meaning of these ancient pictographic letters. I don't believe the NT was written in Greek, however, their is enough evidence to prove Matthew was written in Hebrew, but only circumstantial evidence to say the rest of the NT was written in Hebrew.

[rasrober69]

@YAHWEHisperfect  he was a lie er working for rome to change the people mind to the lie and the big s lie was the pic that show them as wite people when the person reely read the book the book never sed blond hair blue eyed people it sed tha where black brown and some where Redish allman and mist ter wite man was greek and rome the JEWDEAN WHERE THE BLACK Slave Of the red brown kemit egyption and greek took ove egyp from them

[rasrober69]

@YAHWEHisperfect he was a lie er working for rome to change the people mind to the lie and the big s lie was the pic that show them as wite people when the person reely read the book the book never sed blond hair blue eyed people it sed tha where black brown and some where Redish allman and mist ter wite man was greek and rome the JEWDEAN WHERE THE BLACK Slave Of the red brown kemit egyption and greek took ove egyp from them puting in the german Wite jew You see the now

[1Ephraimite]

This video is very diceptive. While trying to explain the language correlation between the 3 different peoples, a false conclusion is drawn regarding Canaan being shemetic, not considering that the canaanites were descendents of Ham, hence it would be impossible to draw the same peoples from the different progenitors. This person apparently has not read the Genealogy and is drawing his own conclusions.

[ancienthebreworg]

@1Ephraimite In another video in this series, I did make the false statement that Canaan was a descendent of Shen, but I corrected that in the video. In this video I am simply comparing the scripts and their similarities showing that they are using the same alphabet.

[1Ephraimite]

@ancienthebreworg understood. But for the sake of clarity to the hearing audience it would be wise to make some sort of annotated explanation, so that there is no misinterpretation taken in to those that might use your videos as a sort of "fact finding" endeavor or reference. 'Cause if you believe you are conveying facts, then those facts should be explained with no deviation or variance from the topic being addressed in the explanation. Thank you.

[ancienthebreworg]

@1Ephraimite Just so I am clear on your position, what exactly in this video do you believe is incorrect?

[1Ephraimite]

@ancienthebreworg I understand your previous reply when you stated that " I did make the false statement that Canaan was a descendent of Shen, but I corrected that in the video", but I'm just merely implying that you might want to ascribe the same correction upon this video as well. The only reason I'm mentioning this for this video, though you've done it in the other, is simply on the ocassion that the viewer might not have watched that afore mentioned corrected video, and misunderstand.

[ancienthebreworg]

@1Ephraimite At first I didn't think I mentioned their relationship to Shem, but I watched the video again and yes, I did. I made an annotation there to correct that. Thank you very much for your help.

[rasrober69]

@ancienthebreworg the reel JEWDEAN WHERE not wite people no where in the book did it say blond hair blue eye it did say wool hair brass skin like brunt in furnes and the german jew dont speek hebruw thay speek yedish the hebruw was givein to them by the grave robing arkey ologist to keep the lie in rome that Jesus was A wite man

[rasrober69]

@1Ephraimite the reel JEWDEAN WHERE not wite people no where in the book did it say blond hair blue eye it did say wool hair brass skin like brunt in furnes and the german jew dont speek hebruw thay speek yedish the hebruw was givein to them by the grave robing arkey ologist to keep the lie in rome that Jesus was A wite man

[1Ephraimite]

@rasrober69, I know my brother, I think you might be confusing ME as someone who doesn't know that those "Jewish" people are not the real people of the Bible. WE ARE THE SONS OF YHWH, Shalawm Benjamin.

[gloup81]

hahaaha noahs arc !!! nice joke !!noah the mountaineer carpenter becomes sailor in one night ! nice joke !!!!

[GodmyX]

good, but music is too loud

[TheOriginalemoticon]

A Biblical story involving Canaan seems to refer to the ancient discovery of the cultivation of grapes around 4000 BC around the area of Ararat, which is associated with Noah.[26] After the Flood, Noah planted a vineyard, made wine but became drunk. While intoxicated, an incident occurred involving him and his youngest son, Ham. Afterward, Noah cursed Ham's son Canaan (but not Ham, for reasons that are not stated) to a life of servitude (a possible pun on the Hebrew from wikipedia

[ancienthebreworg]

Actually, the reason Canaan was cursed and not Ham is stated in the text. You have to understand the Hebrew idioms used, specifically, Ham "uncovered the nakedness of his father" which is an idiom mean Ham had sexual relations with his father's wife and Canaan is the result of that act, therefore the descendents of Canaan are cursed.

[Bimfirestarter]

@ancienthebreworg -That is an interesting insight. It has also been suggested that sodomy is perhaps implied here, and indeed the Canaanites were known by such and worse practices from the Biblical narrative and archaeological finds.

-But very interesting point, I've never heard it before and it does have ground in the Hebrew phraseology.

[TheOriginalemoticon]

The Table of Nations calls Canaan the "son of Ham", whose ethnicities, e.g. Egypt ("Mitzrayim"), are associated with Africa not sons of Shem. Respectivly

[Bimfirestarter]

@TheOriginalemoticon -You're absolutely right. 'Semitic Canaanites' is something of a misleading misnomer that is very popular, unfortunately.

[deliandiver]

Why do you use so obsolete resources? Modern science does not think that Phoenician language was almost identical whit Hebrew, although they are very close and both belong to group of Canaanite languages.

[ancienthebreworg]

I have used antiquated materials to show the view of Hebrew through time. First you say that I was wrong when I said that they were "almost identical", but then you say they are "very close." Aren't we saying the same thing.

[deliandiver]

No, we aren't. "Very close" doesn't mean "almost identical". It's the same as if you said "Afrikaans is almost identical to Dutch." They are not almost identical, but the fact is that these two languages are very closely related.

[deborahbetty58]

Quote: "almost identical". It seems to me that both Hebrew and Phoenician are derived from the same root language as is mentioned in Gen. 11:1. As far as I know that would be Sumerian cuneiform writing. In that sense one can say, the Phoenician and Hebrew language are like two of many identical offspring, of the same womb of language and cultural origin, who have the same basis, but evolved along the way/journey through time. Differentiating into their own culture, attributes and specifics.

[EternallyChosen]

How can they be cannites but also be of the line of Shem??

[ancienthebreworg]

There is some ambiguity here. The problem is that the Canaanites speak and write Semitic, but their lineage is from Ham.

[Bimfirestarter]

@ancienthebreworg -Exactly right. Like many peoples through history, the Canaanites were speaking a language that wasn't indicative of their ancestry, which stumbles many scholars, it seems. They weren't Semitic, but merely spoke a Semitic tongue inasmuchas I'm not British but speak English.

[nomad916]

hahaha, hebrews arent shem they are japhet, they just adopted a semite language which is actually japhetic

[ancienthebreworg]

What is your evidence for this statement? Or did you just create this hypothesis?

[montezoma]

Saying Phoenician and Hebrew is similar, is like saying German and English is similar.

[ancienthebreworg]

Not exactly, its more like saying Hebrew and Aramaic are similar. Ancient Phoenician and Hebrew are almost identical as was all the Semitic languages at that time.

[ancienthebreworg]

This is what I was explaining in the comments above. The Canaanites spoke a Semitic language, which means that they are Hamites who spoke Semitic, or they are a Semitic people who have displaced the Canaanites but still live in the land of Canaan. Because the actual lineage of the Canaanites and Phoenicians can not be determined positively, I have revised the script for this video. Thank you.

[Prudence801]

I'm no expert but from what I understand semetic itself is a branch of the 6 afroasitic languages which are largely spoken in "Hamitic" lands.

[ancienthebreworg]

Yes, this is correct, though I think there are more than 6, I can think of 9 off the top of my head - Hebrew, Moabite, Amorite, Aramean, Amonite, Phoenician, Akkadian, Ugarit, and Eblaite. At different times it is spoken from Egypt to Persia.

[Prudence801]

Sorry I meant the 6 Afroasiatic branches Berber, Chadic, Omotic, Egyptian, Cushitic and Semetic. I think what you did was describe one branch, the Semetic.

[yirmeYAH7]

u do know the Ebrew Ysraelites conquerd the Kanaanites & made the servants rights? married their women & had children by many of them.

[Prudence801]

How are Phonecians/Canaanites Shemites? Thats wrong.

[yirmeYAH7]

he knows what he's doing. he knows that is wrong. also, shemetic peoples live in "africa" today. namely Ebrews from the tribes or Yaqoob (Ysrael). but u may know this.& they r as deep as south "africa".

[ReligionThink]

Hey nice Job . These are coming out great!

[doctorw2]

phoenician and hebrew are the same language.

[ancienthebreworg]

Yes, that is true, as I point out in the video.

[omegaking1]

THE HEBREWS ARE BLACK

[ancienthebreworg]

A Hebrew (Heb. eevriy; Eng. Eberite) is one descended from Eber which encompasses a very wide spectrum of tribes including the Phoenicians, Moabites, Amorites, Arameans, Israelites, Amonites, Midianites, Ishmaelites, and many more. It is quite possible that some of these people were black.

[WONDAWOMAN]

Well, we know that Abram was from Ur of the Chaldees.. I read of either an ancient Greek historian or a British one from the last 200 years or so I assume who wrote that the Chaldeans were most certainly black.. VERY black.

Say, if you have any references to ancient maps that may identify some of the places and rivers mentioned in Genesis & Jasher, could you please give me the link? I would appreciate it .. thanks.

[chiladin]

In Western civilization there has always been the Fear of A Black planet. That's why the Europeans "white-washed human history like by making Jesus was and Ashkenazi(White) Jews claiming that they're Jews when the Israelites weren't even Jews. They're isn't even a letter J in the Hebrew alphabet and names like Goldstein, Rubestein certaintly are Hebrew.Black people are the lowliest people on this earth now but we are the original people.The first shall be last and the last shall be first!

[tudungsenduk]

They are all Hebrews.

[ancienthebreworg]

Yes, this is the assumption by many, myself included, but is their proof?

[Negev9]

Mr. Benner: You mentioned that the Phoenicians are descendents of Shem. Genesis 10:15 says--"and Kena'an brought forth Tsidon his firstborn...". Please correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't the Phoenicians the descendents of Tsidon (among others)? If they were then they would be sons of Hham through Cush, right? By the way, loved the video.

[ancienthebreworg]

Shalom Negev and thank you very much for your comments and you are the second one to question this part of the video (That's good, if I am wrong I need to know it :-).

This prompted me to do a little more research into the origins of the Phoenicians. What I found is that the names Canaan and Tsidon (Sidon) are derived from descendents of Ham.

Cont....

[ancienthebreworg]

Most Biblical scholars group the Canaanite and Phoenician peoples into the same family as Semites along with the Hebrews, Moabites, Amorites, and others (Moabites and Amorites are descendents of Lot, the children he had with his two daughters).

However, the linking of Canaanites and Phoenicians to Semites may simply based on the fact that they write and speak a Semitic language.

Cont....

[dunklaw]

On a coin of the time of Antiochus Epiphanes the Syrophoenician city of Laodicea is described as To Laodicea a mother-city of Canaan (U Cassuto,

A Commentary on the Book of Genesis).

That's a coin I would like to see - especially the text.

Is it one of the coins on your presentation?

[ancienthebreworg]

No, this coin isn't in my video but I did find an image of it in the book "Phoenicia" by George Rawlinson (you can view it in Google Books). The inscription is in Phoenician and Greek. The Phoenician reads:

ללאדיא אם בכנען

l'ladiya am b'cana'an

belonging to ladiya, mother in Canaan

Very interesting ty.

[ancienthebreworg]

There are two possible answers to this question.

1. The place names Canaan and Tsidon are named after descendents of Ham but later settled by Semitic peoples who were given the names Canaanites and Tsidonians (Phoenicians) because of the place they lived.

2. The Canaanites and Tsidonians are descendents of Ham but spoke with a Semitic language.

Unfortunately, it appears that there is no way to answer this question possitively.

Cont...

[ancienthebreworg]

Because of these issues, I think it is necessary to revise the script of the video and remove the familial lineage of Phoenicia and stick with the linguistic link.

Thank you very much, this is the type of feedback I am looking for. Keep up the good work.

[deborahbetty58]

Didn't the descendants of Ham, Shem & Japheth lived on pieces of land next to each other after the Flood, still speaking and writing the same one root language? When the confusion of the one language happened overnight, who is to say which one of the descendants of Shem, Ham and Japheth got of speak what language, whether they were given to speak a different language per tribe, per fam. unit or per individual isn't mentioned in Scriptures. In the worst case scenario, individuals of fam. units

[deborahbetty58]

started to speak different languages (Gen. 11:6-7). All in all that would account for Canaanites speaking Semitic or Shemite off spring speaking Hamitic. Or Japhetic off spring speaking Semitic etc.

[deborahbetty58]

Gen. 11:6-9)

[Bimfirestarter]

@deborahbetty58 -A good point I learned years ago, is that since Shem was a faithful worshiper of Yahweh, his language and that of his own was likely unchanged, as they wouldn't have participated in the building of the tower of rebellion. -Which is why all the names prior to that point are Semitic (Hebrew).

[morningsun29]

Interesting, good to know. I definitely want to learn more about this.

[ancienthebreworg]

Really? I was afraid that it would be boring for most people, but this lays the foundation for the rest of the video (still in develpment).

[drdalet]

Certainly not boring - I can't wait for the next part !

[medievalman86]

despite Jesus saying salvation is of the Jews vs, the samaratins. are there any reasons to suggest that the samaraten torah is "more accurate" than the MSS(or oldest Hebrew available).... any chance you know where i could find some good insights into Samaritan believes compared with Orthodox Judaism(or karaite) and all that good stuff? or something in english showing the differences between the 2?

[ancienthebreworg]

There are a few books out there that compare the Samaritan and Jewish Torah but I don't have them or read them. That is an area of study I would like to get into eventually, just don't have the time right now.

[dunklaw]

I have heard that the Samaritan Pentateuch differs from the Masoretic text in some 6,000 instances, most of which are minor. However, some are major, as, for example, the reading of Deuteronomy 27:4, where Gerizim is substituted for Ebal, the place where the laws of Moses were to be inscribed on whitewashed stones. (De 27:8) The obvious reason for this change was to give credence to their belief that Gerizim is the holy mountain of God.

[ancienthebreworg]

Yes, this is true, but one can not just say all of the Samaritan Torah's differences are incorrect. There are times where the Samaritan agrees with the DSS and the LXX showing that the Masoretic Torah is probably in error. This is a very deep subject, something I wish I had time to explore further.

[canadianbacon007]

Famed Mesoamerican archaeologist Michael D. Coe has hinted that the Bering Straits theory is now, not the only possibility for the original populating of the Americas. He admitted, that almost certainly, people may have originally come to america by way of the sea. The Phoenicians would seem likely candidates, given some of the time frames involved, and their abilities as sailors.

[ancienthebreworg]

Very excellent points canadian. I have read some books on that subject and not only is it plausible for Phoenicians or others to have sailed to America, it is almost a fact based on the evidences discovered thus far.

[AnarcissusRising]

So this also means more and more that most likely these Phoenicians were the people sailing conquering the world during the trans-atlantic slave trade, came to America seeking religious freedom as the Pilgrims and Puritans as well!??

I thought you guys got the update that the oldest skeleton in the Americas ever found to date by ANTHROPOLOGISTS thus far was of a "Negroid" descent.

Which makes Judaism & Christianity two of the most last religion ever forged in history!

Thawadah!!!

[canadianbacon007]

I think the Phoenician influence on the culture, and languages of many civilizations is very much underestimated. Their skill at navigation, and seamanship, may have had a profound impact that anthropology, and archaeology have yet, or may never uncover.

[AnarcissusRising]

Too bad they STILL don't fit the curses of Deuteronomy 28, but oddly FIT Revelations 2:9 & 3:9. Those are the SYNAGOGUES OF SATAN ahch!

Matthew 10:5-6

These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the SAMARITANS enter ye not:

But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

Canaan are the descendants of Cain and are the wives Esau wed.

So who's really over there?

I think Zechariah 9:6 and Obadiah 1 sums it up.

[TheAksumite]

Look into Ge'ez/Ethiopic writings.Sumertains got their knowledge from afrikans.

[AnarcissusRising]

Ok but you do understand this makes it the last religion they basically ever developed?

It still has it's main glory being told in the Canaanite land which still makes this not the right religion for the chosen, you are basically damning all of our people by telling them they are the Habiru's from Kemet when all the Habirus did is exactly what they are doing today in Israel..So is that REALLY what you want to claim? Go ahead.

[TheAksumite]

What do you mean kemet ?I am aware that the so called Jews in the land of Canaan are not Jews. Explain what you mean

[1Ephraimite]

@AnarcissusRising,

Is that A Typing error, regarding "Canaan are the descendants of Cain"?

I'm sure you know that all living things were destroyed aside from Noah, his wife, his sons, and his son's wives. There is no proof at all that there were any rurvivers aside from Noah and his family.

Be cautious my brother, and remember the wise council of King Solomon in Ecclesiastes 12:12.

Canaan is the descendant of HAM, Gen. 9:18,19.

Shalawm

[ancienthebreworg]

By Canaanite, I am referring to the those who live in the land of Canaan, all of whom were Shemites, even though the name of the land is named after a son of Hham.

But you do bring up a good point that could be easily confused so I am going to revise that part of the narration. Thank you very much, I really appreciate it.

[yirmeYAH7]

Kenaʽan is from QḤam, NOT Shĕm.