Do you really buy Constitutionalism? People already tried the Constitutionalism and look where this nation is. The problem is incentives. the State's existence will continue to provide incentives for those in power to rape the Constitution. the wealth/prosperity created by a limited State will continue to provide incentives to not be a watchmen of the State. And when the State has no watchmen we will be back here again, in 2010, figuratively.
@Decentralism Yeah our Constitution is probably the most well-crafted government in history. I'd like to get back to doing what it says for sure. Wouldn't you?
@Decentralism Sorry if I was unclear. My reply was intended to respond to your entire comment. You criticized the Constitution as creating incentives for the state to grow its power, but I disagree. As I said in my comment- there has likely never been a more well-constituted government. It's not the Constitution's fault that people ignore or willfully misinterpret it. Those hell-bent on power and control are pretty relentless. If we get back to it, we'll have made major progress toward liberty.
@wemessy Would u prefer the Articles of Confederation? It is a further step toward liberty. Your choice to make a pit stop at the Constitution is arbitrary--probably based your reverence for the founders, which probably derives from the reverence shown for the founders in public school or some State-authorized text book somewhere. Evaluate the founders on their actions. you will see they were not libertarians consistently nor was the Const. a limiting document--this is empirically true.
@Decentralism We can have that discussion once we get back to 1789. Until then it seems utterly mad to me to actually oppose the Federal government governing within the confines of the Constitution- which is to actually oppose limiting the power of the Federal government.
@wemessy We can also have that discussion now, since having the discussion of what the end game is..won't prevent "us" to from getting back to 1789, in terms of a limited nation-state.
@Decentralism Sure we can have that discussion now... at the opportunity cost of having the discussion that gets us back to 1789. And frankly if the government really did just obey the Constitution, I'd be pretty happy with that. You'll say that it inevitably deteriorates as a matter of empirical fact- but guess what? The A of C deteriorated into the Constitution you seem to detest, so same objection applies there. Seriously thanks for speaking up though, I'll let you have the last word...
@wemessy Thx. Well there is no opp cost as long (as you're talking w/ me) b/c I already support Constitutionalism--as opposed to what we have now. Out of curiosity, is that the opportunity cost by which you measure all of your actions? It is not a certainty that a return to strict Constitutionalism will lead back here. However, I think its likely. I think all Statism leads back here and worse--I just used the AofC to illustrate your arbitrariness. I'm open to discussion whenever you like.
Good stuff but The Republican Party is made of straw men these days. I applaud their opposition to Obama and his socialist policies but I don't trust them to do the right thing once in power.
Freedom brings people together. As a fiftyish guy, I couldn't agree more with a twentyish guy. The GOP took a hard right turn with the neo-cons, and ran the party into a ditch. If they want help getting out of this mess, the neo-cons have got to get out of the driver's seat. Freedom, prosperity, and peace.
1984=the golden era eh??? funny shit
Regan was as conservative as BUSH, you support Ron Paul and then suck up the The Just Say No Creators.......idiot.
odin422 1 year ago
Do you really buy Constitutionalism? People already tried the Constitutionalism and look where this nation is. The problem is incentives. the State's existence will continue to provide incentives for those in power to rape the Constitution. the wealth/prosperity created by a limited State will continue to provide incentives to not be a watchmen of the State. And when the State has no watchmen we will be back here again, in 2010, figuratively.
Decentralism 1 year ago
@Decentralism Yeah our Constitution is probably the most well-crafted government in history. I'd like to get back to doing what it says for sure. Wouldn't you?
wemessy 1 year ago
@wemessy I think its cool that you only read the first sentence of my comment or that you chose to ignore all but the first sentence.
Decentralism 1 year ago
@Decentralism Sorry if I was unclear. My reply was intended to respond to your entire comment. You criticized the Constitution as creating incentives for the state to grow its power, but I disagree. As I said in my comment- there has likely never been a more well-constituted government. It's not the Constitution's fault that people ignore or willfully misinterpret it. Those hell-bent on power and control are pretty relentless. If we get back to it, we'll have made major progress toward liberty.
wemessy 1 year ago
@wemessy Would u prefer the Articles of Confederation? It is a further step toward liberty. Your choice to make a pit stop at the Constitution is arbitrary--probably based your reverence for the founders, which probably derives from the reverence shown for the founders in public school or some State-authorized text book somewhere. Evaluate the founders on their actions. you will see they were not libertarians consistently nor was the Const. a limiting document--this is empirically true.
Decentralism 1 year ago
@Decentralism We can have that discussion once we get back to 1789. Until then it seems utterly mad to me to actually oppose the Federal government governing within the confines of the Constitution- which is to actually oppose limiting the power of the Federal government.
wemessy 1 year ago
@wemessy We can also have that discussion now, since having the discussion of what the end game is..won't prevent "us" to from getting back to 1789, in terms of a limited nation-state.
Decentralism 1 year ago
@Decentralism Sure we can have that discussion now... at the opportunity cost of having the discussion that gets us back to 1789. And frankly if the government really did just obey the Constitution, I'd be pretty happy with that. You'll say that it inevitably deteriorates as a matter of empirical fact- but guess what? The A of C deteriorated into the Constitution you seem to detest, so same objection applies there. Seriously thanks for speaking up though, I'll let you have the last word...
wemessy 1 year ago
@wemessy Thx. Well there is no opp cost as long (as you're talking w/ me) b/c I already support Constitutionalism--as opposed to what we have now. Out of curiosity, is that the opportunity cost by which you measure all of your actions? It is not a certainty that a return to strict Constitutionalism will lead back here. However, I think its likely. I think all Statism leads back here and worse--I just used the AofC to illustrate your arbitrariness. I'm open to discussion whenever you like.
Decentralism 1 year ago
Oh I love the last part "You got to be doing something wrong when a long haired 22 year old is telling you to be more conservative"
PRICELESS
samuils 2 years ago
Good stuff but The Republican Party is made of straw men these days. I applaud their opposition to Obama and his socialist policies but I don't trust them to do the right thing once in power.
WeVoteRight 2 years ago
Amen. Five stars.
ysonyou 2 years ago
Great job, I'm retired military (48yr old) and switched to Libertarian prior to this farce of an election. Rally the troops!
sicktoad 2 years ago
you give me hope kid
rhinohippo 2 years ago
Peg Luksik For Senate in Pa!
KenMacMillan 2 years ago
Amen! Ya made my day, brother.
barassodinga 2 years ago
Freedom brings people together. As a fiftyish guy, I couldn't agree more with a twentyish guy. The GOP took a hard right turn with the neo-cons, and ran the party into a ditch. If they want help getting out of this mess, the neo-cons have got to get out of the driver's seat. Freedom, prosperity, and peace.
bbburton 2 years ago 2
Great job Wes! Wake up GOP!
fagan411 2 years ago
v=d-6SHbjYWqA
cattleprods911 2 years ago
lol, nice vid
:D
stealthswimmer 2 years ago
Excellent!!!! I think we should all make our own tapes and send the CDs to the GOP!! Who's in???
AStarSpangledGirl 2 years ago
Great idea. Go for it!
wemessy 2 years ago
Thanks...will put something together to make it more formal. :)
AStarSpangledGirl 2 years ago
Love the ending.
danspeaks 2 years ago 3
Go WES!
RandPaulsupporter 2 years ago
AMEN!
ronpaulspanish 2 years ago