Christopher Columbus was born between 25 August and 31 October 1451 in Genoa, part of modern Italy.
He married Filipa Moniz Perestrelo, daughter of the Porto Santo governor and Portuguese nobleman of Genoese origin Bartolomeu Perestrello.
The name Christopher Columbus is the Anglicisation of the Latin Christophorus Columbus. His name in his native 15th century Genoese language was Christoffa Corombo, and the Italian language version of the name is Cristoforo Colombo.
Christopher Columbus was born between 25 August and 31 October 1451 in Genoa, part of modern Italy.
He married Filipa Moniz Perestrelo, daughter of the Porto Santo governor and Portuguese nobleman of Genoese origin Bartolomeu Perestrello.
The name Christopher Columbus is the Anglicisation of the Latin Christophorus Columbus. His name in his native 15th century Genoese language was Christoffa Corombo, and the Italian language version of the name is Cristoforo Colombo.
-Juana (Cuba) – In memory of king D. João II de Portugal, for whom he was an agent. Later to not atract attention changed for Cuba (Alentejo) homeland of Salvador Fernandes Zarco.
Learned to navigate with the Portugueses.
He had family in Portugal. His brother lived in Portugal and married an Portuguese noble. He also married an noble from Madeira wich was impossible for a poor foreigner to do and also difficult for a noble with no connections on the island.
Christopher Columbus was born between 25 August and 31 October 1451 in Genoa, part of modern Italy.
He married Filipa Moniz Perestrelo, daughter of the Porto Santo governor and Portuguese nobleman of Genoese origin Bartolomeu Perestrello.
The name Christopher Columbus is the Anglicisation of the Latin Christophorus Columbus. His name in his native 15th century Genoese language was Christoffa Corombo, and the Italian language version of the name is Cristoforo Colombo.
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Why some people come here to leave their frustated comments about Portugal - a country who gave new worlds to the world? Why don't they go somewhere else and continue with their silly lives! lol The History isalready written! We don't need new teachers tyring to teach it their way! LOL
@antmdm Don't you know? They come here because no one else will "entertain" them. They're just "babados" with such low self esteem coupled with an desperate inferiority complex, they're just DYING for attention. The best way to deal with these types is to ignore them and let them "spin" in their own mediocrity, ignorance and frustration. Viva Portugal e tudo que e, e foi, Portugues!!
@nvieira100 Yeah! You are right! They are frustated desesperated show off people! Let them live happy in their own ignorance,the world is happening outside but they are closed in their shells of ignorance and racism against europeans.Viva Portugal! The country who connected all the planet! The pioneer of Globalization!
You cant even get Columbus straight. 1st hes some Zarco Potruguese guy; then hes greek! LOL And based on a translation of a name....what book is that in? "how to believe thing you read" book
At LEAST get your conspiracy theory right. So which is it, columbus is portuguese or greek? Ha ha.......
Strane hopw we were all so fooled for the past 500 years. Maybe those books u cited support that rubbish
@EBanonymous Hey don't put words on my mouth I never said! I never said Columbus was greek! The books I recommended have nothing to do with Columbus.They are about Portuguese History so we could all prevent extremists like you from putting all Portuguese History in the same bag,because yes it is much more than slavery and crimes!Don't be racist against Portuguese,you don't have to agree with the theory but at least respect it and us.Columbus nationality was not yet proven.
@EBanonymous There,you finally reached the point!Slavery and Genocide are obviously no good things as I've always agreed,unfortunately something that have been present throughout History.History was no fairytale,wars were not decided by exchanging flowers.So you agree with me we also made good things,happy to know that :) By pointing out good things Portuguese History gave to the world,it doesn't mean I support and defend racism,like slavery and genocide,that was the sad part.Have a nice day!;)
@antmdm He's just got a major chip on his shoulder. Clearly he doesn't feel very good about himself or his heritage, so he goes around taking his anger out on those who ARE proud of their heritage. He's stuck in the "poor me" syndrom, so he's convinced himself he can bring others down to his level. WHAT a messed up fool!!! Viva Portugal (watch...I just rattled his cage again) LOL
christoforos colombos was greek because his name is greek game over end of story. As all europe is greek since the name of europe is greek :) Also the name of britain is greek too "pritani islands". So dont be proud of your barbarian history that starts in 400AC with the fall of rome. You just copy pasted grecoroman and especially Greek culture in your lifes. All your words come from greek. Learn to speak greek and make the connection to your real past.
Oh no. Europe is not Greek. That's rubbush. Greece, as in Homer, or anybody connected to those people, weren't even an organised people 800BCE or so. Plenty of far more advanced & successful in Europe long before the Greeks.
Then there's Assirya to the East, Babylon & ot the South Egypt, among others. There's nothing the Greeks had they didn't copy from the Egyptians who were finishing their dynasties roung the time of Homer. Columbus means Christ, and he wasn't Greek either.
@EBanonymous you are total ignorant lol :) Egypt is even a greek word :) It means "Below agean". Literarry the country below agean. Everything europe has today literature, science etc etc BEGINS with the greeks :) Read wikipedia. Greek language is spoken in europe since 3000BC and they were the first to live in democracy in 500BC. Greeks didnt have empires because they were free people :) Not like you brainwashed idiot.
The word "Egypt" is not the Egyptian word, which is "Kemet" & it predates the Greeks & by millenia. Edward Bernal is one of many scholars who demonstrates that that before Greek was even a though, Egypt had been the world's 1st empire, w/ advanced archicture (pyrmaids), medicine (Imhotep), language etc.
It's the Pythagarus & Hypocratis who studied in Egypt & copied from the Egyptians. Those structures were built long before Greece & you carbon date them. Ur wrong again.
@EBanonymous you are a total moron lol :) You just write essays here saying stupid things again and again. Egypt is a greek word moron :) Check Ancient Greece under wikipedia and stop trying to prove that you are not ignorant because you are a 100% moron :) Greeks INVENTED all you have today. There are no written records about anything that is not in greek. Even the gosbels are in greek. Try to move your head around and check if you have any IQ left inside. lol
"You cannot compare the assyrians or egyptians with greeks". And why not? Could it be because they have darker skin? Ah, and that's the point. People like you will never admit that there were highly advanced peoples before Greece was a concept, and they included black & those Middle Eastern peoples.
If the Greeks invented all that math, medicine etc. then just how did the Egyptians & every other society use it 2500 yrs before Greece?
@EBanonymous once again MORON :) The MAJORITY of today proffesors say and agree that GREECE was the cradle of the WESTERN civilization. Egyptians Assyrians and other middle east people were SEMITIC people. ONLY the persians and medes were indo european. The change from MYTH to HISTORY moron ! came from greece and only. Read and try to put inside your nonexistand brain some information. Also wikipedia is a place to start for people as ignorant as you. lol. everybody is laughing at you.
No. The "majority" of professors who say that rubbish are either ill-informed or well informed racists. There's AT least 3000 yrs of recorded history before Greece or the Greek language was anything worth discussing.
Are these the same professors who say the US is bringing democracy to Iraq?
There were no Greeks in 2500 BCE. The Babylonians & Assyrians did NOT use hyrogliphics; they used highly advanced systems of writing completely unrelated to anything in Egpyt.
3000 BCE Greece did not exist. There were some people in those areas, but they were not "Greek" and they definately didn't speak Greek.
What you're talking about came later. As 800 BCE when Homer began writing some folk tales (so much for "history"), the rest of the world had already came, gone & did some things the Greeeks never managed. There's no pyramida in Greece.
& the so called "wonders", how many were in Greece? #1 pyramids, in Egypt. Hanging Gardens, in Babylon etc..
@EBanonymous No. 3000BC Greece DID exist :) lol check wikipedia moron. How many times we have to tell you. Ofcourse they spoke greek. If you visit greece you will discover GRAMMIKI A and GRAMMIKI B which is the text greeks used before thy develop the alphabet. But i guess you will stay a clown
zenough with your stupid Wikipedia written by peple like yourself. There was no country Gree 3000BCE and even if you say it 100 mor x tha \t won't change. Stop calling people names, and show some respect.
Homer is a historian? If "Homer" was even a 1person is disputed, and it's definatley filled w/ mythology. Plenty more reliable data written more than 1000 years before that!
Want some old peoms, try the Pslams or the Song of Solomon. Noth predate the concept of Greece.
@EBanonymous No. There WAS greek speaking people in greece from 3000BC and written records and pots show it. You are 100% CLOWN :) believe me you ARE CLOWN :)
@EBanonymous Homer WAS A POET moron :) Herodotos was the FATHER of history. Learn or read a book. Thucidides was the first historian that ALL people learn around the world in universities :) Do you want to name a babylonian historian ???????? an egyptian historian ???????? ahahahahahahaha
none fo those men you mentioned ws the 1st to record history. Plenty of stones in Egypt, Assirya & Babylon that predate it by a long shot, and guess what? Some are in disply in the Britsh museum & the MEt in NY.
The world doesn't revolve round "greece" except in the world of the truly delusional.
Now your racist comments against Jews is sickening, but in line with the rest of what yo said. Yes, those books predate Plato & are in Hebrew. Ur just a racist.
@EBanonymous "plenty" of shit is what you are full of lol. I could go around say "plenty" "plenty" . TELL US SOME NAMES !!! LOL CLOWN :) Dont you understand that you are an idiot? :) dont make yourself more clown
@EBanonymous "plenty of stones in egypt ......." THE STONE HISTORIAN !!!!!!!! AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA m8 i ve never met such a clown in youtube like you before :) Its a pleasure to pown you with my little finger :) please go on :)
@EBanonymous psalms ???? song of solomon????? ahahahahhaah you mean those psalms that say your jew god killed pharao with ants????????? AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Is this the literature you are proud of???????? lol clown :) Have you ever read PLATO??? :) DO YOU UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE???
@EBanonymous ahahahahaha :) COLOSOS OF RHODES? :) MAYBE? :) also MORON! :) the wonders of ancient world were written by greeks ! :) so dont talk about greek texts ;) Also MORON :) when HOMER wrote illiad your ancestors were eating row meat in caves. And even though its a poem many of the facts have been proven history true :) lol
@EBanonymous some folk tales????? lol. The first complete poem in the history of the world???? some folk tales ????? ahahahahahahahaha. Tell us about a poem of your race ! :) lol clown
@EBanonymous Hey! This Video is about Colon's Origin (Columbus) Not on how he was a slave trader. THREE simple reasons he was Portuguese, ONE - DID NOT speak Italian. TWO - Married Royality you CAN NOT marry into Royalty if you are a SHOEMAKERS son..LOL and THREE - The Papal Bulls of Alexander VI (POPE) wrote his name in PORTUGUESE not in ITALIAN. E MAIS NADA
Columbus wrote many documents in Italian, and some are reproduced online. That's not including his brothers or sons.
I wouldn't describe his marriage as royalty, though his wife's father was big in shippping & he got lucky; but later on he was given title & Coat of Arms (like being Knighted), so he became nobility
In Papal Bull "Christoforum Colon" is used, and the text is Latin not Portuguese
There is a document at the Vatican that proves that the portuguese Sancho Brandão reached Brazil in 1343.Much before Ponce Leon or even the portuguese João Vaz Corte Real in 1472 (North America).The list of portuguese explorers & navigators is endless,it does mean a lot about the brave spirit of our nation.People just don't know enough about our history,the Discoveries mark a very wide subject in history as we are studying the history of our Planet as a whole.Portugal was decisive! Regards!
There is no evidence that the Portugese rached Brasil in 1343. What there IS vidence for is that Portugese were runnung the slave trade in Africa, and the POPE gave them exclusive right over it in 1455 Romanus Pontifex.
Then they were using black & indigenous peoples as slaves in Brasil. U can take ur "protugese pride" & stick it with the "white pride" of the kkk, because that's what you people did
"Discovery" is a legal term to give white "Christians" landl that's history!
I dont't like these idiotic "Zarco" debates on the level of bigfoot, because you people want the pride of saying Columbus (ur hero) was one of you. That's like British & Swedes arguing that Hitler was really English or Sweedish and not Austrian.
WTF do u think Columbus did? Nothing good. Slavery, murder & Genocide aren't "progress". That's nothing to be proud of. IF he hadn't got lost, maybe millions more indigenous peoples would still be in the Americans. What a terrible loss.
OK ;;lets just say COLOMBUS was GREEK so you GUYS CAN STOP FIGHTING.....anyways in one of those supposed paintings of XPISTOFOROS,,,,I SWEAR HE LOOKS JUST LIKE ONE OF OUR FRIENDS FROM XIOS....LOL
@nvieira100 ...as far as the letter R it was used in COLOMBUS times more....not the GREEK P as R.....its a bit weird he used Greek in his times if he asspciated more with SPANIARDS.....I dont know what to believe but I really think his knowlegde of GREEK was more due to an upbringing to someone who spoke and wrote GREEK....and as i mentioned before on many Islands in GREECE especially CHIOS the last name COLOMBUS exists for CENTURIES,,,there must be a connention..only gods knows I guess
the X in greek makes the H sound that only exists in the GREEK ALPHABET and the line over letters too. one thing i do know is that i have many friends from chios,greece,,,with the last name COLOMBUS..how is that possible if italians and potugese say that colombus is a latin name how then has this name been in CHIOS for centuries,,,from what I see he had knowledge of the GREEK ALPHABET,,,,
@mmaakkiinn Errr, NO Portuguese do NOT say Columbus is a latin name. We don't dispute the origin of the name Columbus. What we're saying is that the real discoverer of America was NOT of the name Columbus but of the name Colon!
@mmaakkiinn As far as using the X in the signature, well, if you know anything of the times, Greek and Latin were the classical languages of the day. All educated (aka upper class) people were educated in both languages, although Latin was the common language between nations. Just as English (unfortunately) is today.
@nvieira100 ...Im referring to the X because in GREEK it makes the H sound.....X in LATIN does not make the H sound and was used more as a NUMBER SYMBOL....and only a man educated or influenced by GREEK SURROUNDINGS would know to use the TONOS SIGN over the Xpo....which is a sign in GREEK to EMPHASIZE that the X is H and highlight the sound of that letter...plus the next letter he uses in his name is the GREEK P that makes the R sound.
This is pure nonsnse. Columbus was not "Zarco"; this is bigfoot history.
He was a slave trader, brutal murderer & greedy gold seeker though. When he went to modern day Haiti/DR, he enslaved thousands & killed many more. He took slaves back to Spain too. Las Casas wrote that his men tested their swords on people.
The was only 1 discovery. The Natives discovered Genocide & slavery. So argue about "Zarco" & waste ur time on that pathetic conspiracy theory & ignore real facts. HE was a criminal
@EBanonymous I suggest you brush up on your history. Firstly, there's absolutely ZERO factual evidence to say that "Columbus" was the Italian low class merchant the Italians tried to feed to the world. I guess in your mind it's less a pathetic theory to say an uneducated, illiterate, low class merchant would somehow teach himself latin and scientific skills enabling him to navigate across the ocean, rather than the son of an earlier explorer. What colour is the sun in YOUR world! LOL
Let's not forget the Portuguese were the first on USA soil not Ponce De Leon!
We were the first to stand on Floridian soil!! the same year we were in Brasil!!
On the way home we stopped in Florida!! and all along the eastern coast of the US!!! Who do you think told the English about USA!!! Ponce De Leon? hahaha
@xCmoreX No to mention the fact that they were also the first in Canada. The brothers Cortes Real landed in what is now Newfoundland, in early 1500s. Labrador is the Portuguese name for farmer. The earliest surviving world map dated 1535, clearly labels Newfoundland and Labrador as "Lands of the King of Portugal". ...
@xCmoreX AND if Colon (or "Columbus") was a low born Genoan, how in the world did he ever acquire a coat of arms?! Only nobility were allowed coats of arms ... that also explains why he would have been allowed to come into contact, let alone marry, a Portuguese noble-woman.
Yes it's a pity that all the secret discoveries documents of Portugal were destroyed with the Portuguese Lisbon Earthquake. But There is a "Canada" in south Portugal, "Cuba" where Salvador Zarco was born. He never spoke or wrote in Italian, only in Portuguese and Spanish, and wrote Portuguese words by mistake when writing in Spanish. The Italian man wasn't even a navigator and the signature was Colombus, not Cólon. It's a pity that nobody cares about the truth.
Also, amongst the first Portuguese there were lots of Vikings. Portugal had Viking cities, like Povoa de Varzim, created by Vikings that have still nowadays RUNES on their tradicions and paintings. Viking descendents that knew about the existence of America on old stories. And check Tordesilhas treaty where Portugal refused to sign the treaty to divide the world in half, until the king gained more miles to maintain on his hands Brazil which he already knew. Salvador Zarco.
@crashhpt Wait, wait, wait. Vikings???? Are you talking about the Visigoths and the Alans? They were not Vikings. They were germanic tribes. Vikings are Nordic. Vikings did not land in Portugal.
I mean, the signature was Colon and not Colombus. My mistake. :) Colombus as a navigator is an invention by the Italian, a people that never discovered anything through the seas.
Here is a List of Early Maps of Canada, Nautical Chart 1424
Cantino map 1502
Pedro Reinal Map 1504
Miller Atlas 1519
Diogo Ribeiro map 1529
Map of Joao Freire 1546
Fernao Vaz Dourado 1576
All these maps say Land of King of Portugal or Land of Corte Real. Explain this You English thieves!! John Cabot was a Fake Person so the English could push there way in.
The reason that you don't find any writings in Italian from Columbus is because he was essentially illiterate until his adult life which was lived abroad in countries like Portugal and Spain. During his time the Portuguese were leading the world in navigation and he learned most of his advanced seamanship from the Portuguese. He even married a Portuguese woman and is buried in Portugal.
The Discoverer of the Americas was Christopher Colon not Columbus go look at his grave. Where do people get the name Columbus??? It is not written columbus anywhere in old writtings!! His real name is Salvador Fenandes Zarco spy for the King of Portugal. Anyway Joao Vaz Corte Real discovered Canada 19 years before Colon columbus 1473.
Good point, maybe we should give also more attention to Corte Real for discovering Canada than only to Christopher Colon. That's why there are cities founded with Portuguese names on Canada like Bacalao, and I think Corte Real family had lands on South Portugal named Canada, in Algarve where I think Corte Real family had lands, hence the country name Canada.
@crashhpt But also don't forget that Cuba is a town in the Alentejo ... no where in Spain or Italy is there a place called Cuba. Coincidence? I think not.
@PunchPow I think you're mistaken on the date. Gaspar Cortes Real sailed under Dom Manuel I's crown. Dom Manuel I ascended the throne of Portugal in 1495. Cortes Real sailed for Greenland (same trip he reached Canada) in 1500. He never returned to Portugal and is assumed to have died in Canada circa 1501. Also by 1520, Portuguese attempted colonization in Cape Breton Island, and by the mid-1500s in Nova Scotia as well.
Portugal opened the world to the world! Globalization had begun.
Two very simple reasons Colon(Columbus) was NOT Italian!!! First His Discoveries were named in Portuguese and in spanish to please the king of Spain, Second he didn't write a word in Italian nor speak it... Mama mia.. If you Dont know the Real History of 15 century navigation then read about it..
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Hello PunchPow.
Christopher COLOMBO was SO italian!!! First he was born to ITALIAN PARENTS WHO WERE BORN IN ITALY. THESE ITALIAN NAMES WERE: father: Dominico Colombo and Susanna Fontanarossa now those names tell he was Italian by blood. He was very smart and knew different languages other than his native Italian. He was funded meaning giving money for expenses to explore something he was passionate about. HE wanted to explore the Western trade route.
Hey Beautiful!! Haha i bet you like being called that. The Fact is there was a colombo in Portugal at the time, this man was son of a wool weaver . Colon married a noble woman of Portuguese Royality, My Friend NOOO Foreigner without Royal blood could marry a Noble.. Sorry That's the truth.. His Father was Duke of Beja. Not son Of a Wool weaver... The Genoa story is a fake because Portugal fooled Spain so well.. Thats embarrassing...
Her name is Dulce Pontes, she has a great voice, You should listen to her and Andre Bocelli together, it's even greater. You can find it on You Tube. salute
Muitos parabéns por este trabalho, esta muito bem conseguido...é muita coincidencia, nomes portugueses dados às ilhas e terras...só quem não quer ver com a razão e não com a emoção...
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I think he was Greek, ask me foer evidence! I think he was from Chios, then part of the Genovese rebublic. he writes his name using the Greek letters X (chi) and ρ (rho)
wow, you mean I have xcmorex so I might be Greek too? The X has also been in the Portuguese and Galician language for centuries, Meaning before Rome . X is one of the letters in our alphabet that separates us from any Latin Language. We have lots of words with X, but more in recent times,the Portuguese language been dropping it. From X (chis) to ch. Spanish and Italian don't even use it. Spanish can't pronounce. they call it xexe I think, that became X in English. But correct me if I'm wrong.
man ok dont even try saying he was greek, wtf would a greek guy be doing in spain in the late 15th century...cummon, and yes i would like to see those "things" that suggest he's greek
@xCmoreX Not only that, but both Greek & Latin were the classical languages of the time. All educated people learned to read, write and speak both languages, though Latin was the "universal" language of commerce and diplomatic communication, like English today (sad to say). It's normal to see Greek abbrev. and annotations written in any European and British writings of the time. I wonder if 22poopoo thinks that all Dr's were Greek as well, since Greek was the language of medicine. lol
@Chainsawcannibal Hmmm, so what's the excuse for "enlightened" America in the 19th century, when they were "BREEDING" slaves after laws were passed against importing them? Not to mention mutilating and raping them? Including American PRESIDENTS!!! There's a whole branch of black descendants that have proved through DNA their descent from Thomas Jefferson! So, before you start talking about brutalization that occurred in the 15th and 16th centuries, learn your recent, more local history.
You're right. People like nviera are not woth your time. he/she cn't deal with the fact that Columbus started the trans-Altantic slave trade, killed thousands upon thousands of innocent people, chopped people up and hanged them in the number 13 as a sick representation of the 12 Apostles. Those were "Christians" who spread not the bible, but slavery, murder and rape. Las Casas wote about it, and so did others. Jeseus didn't teach that.
@EBanonymous Oh really? Can't handle anyone calling a spade a spade? Here. Let me spell it out for you ... clearly you aren't capable of connecting the dots by yourself. "Columbus" did not do what you're psychopathic imagination leads you to believe. Yes, the Spanish (NOT Columbus himself) did brutalize the natives, BUT they certainly didn't have exclusivity. CLEARLY you and your equally ignorant friend have no CLUE about your OWN history. Let's start with the Aztechs shal we? ....
@EBanonymous Human sacrifice en-masse is what the Aztecs are best known for, apart from their pyramids, which by the way, were the very temples where their sacrificial victims were tossed from once the oh so peaceful, humane Aztecs finished cutting out the hearts of their victims while they were still alive! And why did they do this? R E L I G I O N!!!!! Yup that's right. Human sacrifices to their Gods! And this to their neighbouring tribes. Yup, poor, poor natives indeed. Now to slavery..
@EBanonymous So, you think the American natives didn't hold slaves do you? Right I forgot. You can't read. Actually, they did and they traded in slaves. Or are you saying that slavery trade is only wrong if it "trans-Atlantic" slave trade? Well, that would make hypocritical as well as ignorant! Nice combination! LOL I'm sure if they native Americans had had the advance knowledge as did the Europeans, they would have been slave trading across the Atlantic as well you moron(s)!
@EBanonymous And now to connect the dots you're having such a difficult time connecting ... THAT WAS THE TIMES THEY WERE LIVING IN! What we term brutality today, was common place, yes including in the Americas!
@EBanonymous So, no. I'm not "a nasty one", just well informed! You should try it reading! You'll find your vocabulary will increase such that you won't have to resort to profanity (language imbeciles) to TRY to get your point across! Have you learned anything? Doubtful. Clearly you don't have two brains cells to rub together. LOL!!!
Yes Aztecs did human sacrifice, & some tribes held slaves. The sacrifice #'s are inflated & the slavery was not like Euro\American chattel. The Spanish used THAT as a pretext to murder them. So yes all societies do bad things, but the indigenous didn't enslave & kill Europeans/Amerricns.
Read my comments. I never made these claims; ur changing the subject. & Columbus is responsible for those crimes as the Admiral allowed his men to do it. He even went on trial. Ur beligerant
@Chainsawcannibal Read my responose to your friend EBanonymous ... it connects the dots for you. Your nation did enough murdering and enslaving of their OWN race for centuries before Europeans ever landed here, you imbecile!! LMAO!!!
You call the indigenous people violent; they did their dirt like all. They're not prefect
The violent ones were the Euro/Americans who 1) took 12 million from Africa & made them slaves; 2) murdered millions of indigenous people for their land; 3) worship their own criminals - like Columbus - & celebrate those crimes.
I don't agree w/ indigfeonous religions. Is Catholicism better? 1455 & 1493 pope authorised the killing in Papal Bulls. Do u say this to justify killing them? Sad
@EBanonymous Well DUH!!! Even spelling it out for you, you completely missed the point! LOL!!!!!!!!!! (sorry, can't stop laughing. You're SOOOO funny!! Here, let me try to help you once again (although it's becoming like throwing pearls to swines ... useless!)... THAT WAS THE TIMES THEY WERE LIVING IN ... WHAT'S CONSIDERED "GENOCIDE" TODAY WAS OF THE NORM BACK THEN ... REGARDLESS OF CONTINENT, RACE OR RELGION!!. Nooooowwww do you get it? LOL!! Thanks for the entertainment. ROTFLMAO!!!!
Say what u want, but the facts are the European/Americans killed millions in the 15th century-ate19th century w/Genocide of Native peoples. Stole 12 million Africans and mad them slaves (they were free people prior).
That's not even WW1 or WW2. Shal we count the millions slaughtered? You can't blame the Aztecs for that one. How many did the WHITE nazix kill? Verdun? Far more than any crimes the Aztecs ever could do. Aztecs were 1 of many groups. Not all even did that stuff
@EBanonymous Unfortunately Slavery exists as far as the time of Egyptians and Romans.There is nothing good in that,but you can't put all the blame on the Portuguese.The Portuguese did had a MAJOR role in the History of the World because we were the vehicle that united different cultures in Africa,America and Asia.What it produced can be seen in expositions like "Encompassing the Globe" that was in Smithosian Institute,the greatest exposition there regarding the number of artifacts.
@EBanonymous About abuses,they existed since humankind exists unfortunately it is still going on today,I can't accept the complete INVASION of the USA in Afganistan or Iraq.Because inocent people that live there have no fault for the sad terrorist attacks in NY.So I don't defend abuses or slavery BUT you can't reduce Portuguese History and Role in the world to that.The contact the Portuguese had with different cultures made the world become closer,smaller and the Globalization began!Regards!
Yes slavery goes LONG before Portugal . Pope gave Alfonso a monopoly on it's gold & slave markets in Africa 1455 w/ Romanus Pontifex. Why? They weren't "exploring"
Globalisation = movement of people & in this case it's in slave ships. So yes, Portugal deserves credit for that, along w/ Spanish, Dutch & British. But neither that nor their behaviour in Americas improved the world. Not for the millions of victims of Genocide. That's beyond Egypt & Rome. There's pride in that?
I wasn't saying Portugal started slavery; of course it's not new. They did fight the Spanish (Castile) over the right to enslave the "Sarcerens" and the "infidels", using the words the of Pope Alexander V who happily took part in assisting their crimes against humanity.
Iraq/Afghanistan (unspeakable crimes), don't even compare with what the Portugese, Spanish, Dutch, French & English did in Africa & the Americas.
@EBanonymous History has always both sides,the good and the bad.Slavery,abuses are always a dark side that should be criticized.But I don't think you are dealing well with the subject,you just want to see one side,that is a fact.So you want to know what Globalization is...As a Global proccess it involved many important things that changed the face of the world as we know today.
@EBanonymous There was a slave trade yes,unfortunately,that is something that I'm not proud of,but indirectly Africans brought with them a culture that changed forever most America Continent Coast and also in Asia (like food and music).That is a result of Globalization too.Nowadays we can't live without music and we owe it to Africa,because they spread their roots all over the world.And music as we know today has its roots in Africa (unless Classic or Ethnic)!
@EBanonymous About the many "Goods" about Globalization is exactly that exchange of different cultures of different continents,you can check that in that amazing exposition "Encompassing the Globe" - Knowledge,culture traveled and mixed with every continent.America,Asia,Europe and Africa were connected with a storm of different things that were arriving and introduced to each other.Just to know we began to be all connected,is the beggining of the World as a whole and that was most important.
@EBanonymous Did you know for example that Portuguese introduced: Tea in Europe? The Shotgun in Japan and was that event that was very important to unify Japan? The chillies,potatoes,tobacco in India and Indochine? Many plants in Africa? Did you know that portuguese explorers cartographed many parts of the world in America,Asia,Africa and Oceania? Did you know that Fernão Mendes Pinto "opened" Asia to the ocident after his travels for more than 20 years writting the amazing book "Pilgrimage"?
The Portuguese and the Pope made few pretences about their goals: make slaves, take their gold, ivory & then grow sugar & other slave labour crops in their colonies. The whole POINT of the Papal Bulls is to decide wheter Spain or Portugal gets the honour of killing & dominating more people.
Sorry, but the US meerly copied ur example, which was copied from earlier ones. Need I discuss the crimes of the fascist dictator in Portugal up to the 70's? Hitler had some friends there too.
And don't even start with that BS of going to Asia to help Japanese or others. The Japanese burnt those "Christians" at the stake in Nagasaki because they were no different from other "holy" men like Matteo Ricci; Jesuits who just wanted to subdue & conquer, using religion as a crusade to convert the "infidels".
Quit while ur ahead. You have no argument. To even defend these criminals is exactly what the NYTimes does when it supports the US in Afghanistan. Portugal invaded many too.
@EBanonymous About Usa Invasion in Iraq/Afganistan,it has just the difference to have happened in a different century.Plus Usa brought nothing new to those countries,they only were interested in invading and stealing all the natural resources,having the excuse of fighting terrorism - a woman told a reporter that before Usa there was oil,all natural resources,after Usa,they have nothing,she had to sell a kidney to feed her 3 children! For me it is as bad as any invasion!
WTF do you think the Portuguese were doing in Africa & Brasil? Helping people by spreading fruits & music? They were interested in glod, slaves & "god", as the term went. They & Eruopeans forced 12 million free Africans to become slaves, losing 20% in the voyages.
They contributed nothing to Africa; they robbed it, raped it & did the same to native peoples. Alfonso, Hnery & others were far more despotic than Bush, and ur wilfull blindness to their crimes is astounding.
How you can even hint that good came from the slave trade ie music, food is an indication of the level of wilfull blindness you've got towards your own peoples crimes. Portugal's history is drenched in the blood of the innocent, and is just as guilty as the Spanish or any other empire.
Go ask their victims if they felt it was a "cintribution" to be dragged from Africa, raped & had their languages, culture & religions taken away 6 FORCED to be Catholic. The Indigenous? Total Genocide.
Only the most racist & biggest supportes of empire get on tv today and openly state how the US is helping Iraq & Afghanistan. That's what you're doing when you claim the Portuguese helped the world.
Remember the millions your people killed the next time you go into one of those splendid cathederals. The gold came from slave mines & murdered indigenous peoples. As u bow down to those images, u might have some pity on them. That's the Portuguese "contribution" = Genocide & slavery.
@EBanonymous You are blind,go read some History.Unfortunately History was written in blood.Any history in any country has war,has blood.What are you trying to prove with that? Your ignorance about History blind you to understand that Africa was very poor in terms of fauna and the introduction of plants by the Portuguese enrichen the continent,but you can't see that because all you see is your stupid point of view.Yes Slavery is sad but Portuguese contribution is not just that! READ!
And the Portuguese history is filled with FAR more murder than most. And the mixing w/ natives means the forced rape of untold numbers of indigenous & African women. Another proud achievement that's easy to read about.
They weren't "explorers" doing maps only; they were literally making slaves & using them in Brasil. The Chinese w/ Jung ho were 10x more advaned than Portugal on the sea ever was in 1450 nonetheless. Magellan, another brutal murderer u idolise who proved what
@EBanonymous Another thing you haven't READ,is that Portuguese did mixed with the locals,and not only exterminated like the spanish,english,dutch or french...Just for you to have an idea most of the crews had africans,READ History! Cartography is not Slavery! Before Gil Eanes passed Bojador Cape,the world though that beyond that line,water would burn! The world though the Indian Ocean was like a closed big lake,the Portuguese proved it was an ocean! Ferdinand Magellan proved the planet was round
the rest of the world already had known years before the dark ages in Europe, in which Portugal took a leading role.
Not a damn thing was "discovered", just introduced to ignorant Europeans who came, killed & stole what they found WITH NO benefit to the locals. Any historybook you use is one I'd stay far away from.
Strange that Las Casas & Columbus' writings as well as others don't say the same about "explorers". Lessons by fascists. Why don't Africnas celebrate ur mythology?
@EBanonymous Ok,you have no knowledge about history really,you just have your point of view,ok,for you Portuguese Discoveries,Globalization = abuse,murders...You have the right to have your opinion and I respect that,I also think that you have a point when you say that abuses were made,I agree BUT that is not all,Portuguese Discoveries are much more than that,but well unfortunately there are more and more extremists,and they only can see their point of view and live in their ignorance...
This isn't my opinion. The UN met in April & discussed these Portuguese & Spanish "discoveries" & the "Doctrine of Discovery", which they call racist & the legal basis for US Indian Law.
Item no 1 on the agenda: how these "discoveries" allowed millions to be made slaves, millions of indigenous in Americas to be murdered & how "discovery" is nothing more than a legal pretext to continue the theft in 2010.
That's what they UN discussed. You instead honour these criminals
@EBanonymous the difference between greek and any other civiliazion is the difference between a child and man. Read profesor KITO book "The Greeks" and stop talking bla bla bla without reading first. You cannot compare assyrians or egyptians with greeks. The difference is HUGE. Greeks developed and perfected EVERYTHING you have today in art and science. Open your eyes and stop vometing words around. Stop being a total moron. People laugh at you.
I never said "Egypt" the word itself was an Egyptian word. Yo keep saying that. Just because today "Egypt" is used, doesn't mean that the Greeks named Egypt. The Civilisation & language existed 2 millenia before Alexander, and in their language it's "Kemet".
Ur just making stuff up. What is Torah? Written in Hebrew by Moses before Greek was a language. The rest is in Aramaic, which also predates Greek.
Since I don't rely on wikipedia, I'm more confident in what I say.
WTF do you think thy heiroglifics are? Is that something the Greeks invented? Or perhaps the Greeks built the Spinx or city of Babylon?
Oh do explian the origin of the clay tablets in the archives at Niniveh written in - no not Greek - Cueniform. Perhaps the Greeks also buit Persopilis. No. They could only think of destroying it.
Did Greeks also invent paper? But they did a lot of molestation. Somthing the Portuguese know a lot about, as they did it to many. Ur truly sad.
@EBanonymous LOL ! moron :) Do you know anything about the heiroglifics of ancient greeks? :) in 2500BC??? :) lol ALL people used this type of writing UNTIL the greeks PERFECTED the alphabet ! MORON ! LOL :) Dont you see that the DIFFERENCE OF greece is that for the first time THEY PERFECTED AND DEVELOPED everything and THUS they showd what the human mind is for. Dont say another thing unless you read more. You just show us you are a clown :) lol
@EBanonymous and AGAIN MORON :) VIRTUALLY ALL !!!! ALL WRITTEN RECORDS about ancient civilizations comes FROM GREEK TEXTS !! LOL :) So you want to be a jew? :) no problem :) you want to be assyrian??? no problem !! you want to be egyptian??? NO PROBLEM !!! but you are not greek lol. Because you cannot speak or understand greek and thats what makes you a sad figure :) You cant have any oppinion unless you can read PLATO from the original. Lol try to compare plato with the torah! LOL
No, the written records do not all come from Greece, just the ones you refer to. There are litrally tens of thousands of untranslated stone tablets in Babylon & the Nineveh, among other places. Some just choose to ignore the rest of the world.
Well the Jews do just fine speaking Hebrew, and some still speak Aramaic. None of those words come from Greek. Then there's the Chinese and some interesting ones over in India. Greek then Latin became ddominant, but they weren't the 1st.
@EBanonymous No. Moron i dont say that there are not other "brands" of wine. What i am saying is that the brands you are refering too is rubish. Greek was the best civilization ever and is the only one that trully showed what the human mind is for. The english poet shieler said "we are all greeks". Uberto Eco said "we stand on the backs of giants and because of that we are able to see further". and so on...... But no worries go on with your sleep. Are you jew btw? or muslim? lol
@EBanonymous search amazon for "The Greeks" by proffesor KITO and JUST read the introduction lol. You will see your stupidity. The problem with you is that you DONT understand that 50% of you vocabulary is greek and Latin lol. And you STILL have an opinion about the greeks lol. If you want to say that greeks are nothing the STOP USING THEIR WORDS !!! :) Invent your language ! lol moron
@EBanonymous and just for you to know GREEK people lived and created civilization from 3000BC. check the tomb of ATREAS and Mycenae. Check the speach by pericles after the peloponisian was !!! and I DARE you find me another text like this from the ancient world that sounds as MODERN and so DEMOCRATIC as today. lol ! moron DEMO + KRATOS = PEOPLE + HOLD POWER. This is one of millions of words you own to greeks. So do you have copyright? lol. You go buy copyright from egyptian words!!! muhamad !
Oh, Greece & democracy. You're truly in la-la land. 3/4ths of the people were freaking slaves. You really want to talk about democracy? wow. Even if you want to discuss it, that's doesn't date to nefore 500bce & only in Athens.
But these same democrats went to molest their victims after voting, so there's much to admire. Many people have a Greek name. And Hebrew too. That doesn't change a person's race.
Columbus was not Greek or even Portuguese. Get ur story straight.
@EBanonymous you are a moron. ALL greek states had democracies in a strong or weak way. There were NEVER empires in greece and NEITHER kings. The citizens were MEMBERS of the state and NOT SUBJECTS :) thats the big difference. If there was oligarchy or democracy they were ALWAYS subjects. But i guess you knew this too ;) LOL. you are powned clown.
So now Sparta was a decocracy too? You just keep digging. They had a freaking king! Who was King Philip of Macedon? His son Alexander? He wasn't a king? He didn't have an empire? WTF are you talking about?
People weren't sunjects? 3/4 just happened to be literal slaves, including Athens. What do you call them Free men and "citizens"? wow.
If the Greeks were "the best", then why did their emoire get conquered and fall? Why don't we all speak Greek? I'm not Greek. Maybe u r.
@EBanonymous SPARTA MORON ! was a state :) with OLYGARHI. Citizens of SPARTA clown were MEMBERS of the state even with not full democracy. CITIZENS OF BABYLON MORON WERE WORSHIPIN THE GOD KING :) FOR thousands of years. DO YOU UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE MORON? :) :)
@EBanonymous MORON ! :) Alexander the great was not king of greeks. The word "king" was uknown to greeks. He was head of POLIS "STATE" in ancient greece. AND he was so proud that he united the greeks in CORINTH ALLIANCE that when he defeated the persians in ASIA MINOR he sent 100 armors to parthenon with the text "Alexander son of philip and the greeks MINUS spartans" !!!! This means MORON that there were allies not subject to a god king. And alexander sent this to ATHENS ! not macedon
Alexander was deefinately a king, and he had a huge empire. Why you want to mince words is beyond me. He was an absolute ruler, and there no democracy at all in his kingdom.
Surely his best friend didn't think so when Alexander murdered him. I've heard some real nonsense on here, but you ...I'd laugh, but the stuff you say is so ridiclous it's not even funny. it's just plain sad that you could actually believe even 10% of it
G back to wikipedia, great advice from scholar like u
@EBanonymous MORON Alexander NEVER had an empire. He died JUST before anything could be done. THERE WAS NEVER A GREEK EMPIRE. because GREEKS were FREE Men :) Do you understand that????? do we have to put it in your brain :) ?? Even today we dont have monarchy while britain still has :) We call our polity democracy while USA emulates Roman autocracy with senate. But why dont you tell us what you are clown ?? are you ashame for your race?
"no empire"? Alexander didn't conquer the Medes and Persians long before he went to India and returned to Babylon where he died? That's no an empire?
What dictionary are u using????????????????????????? The Persians under Greek rule weren't free any more than the majority of child molesting Greek slaves were. They were not "free" mr ideology.
The only shame to aything is people who just make crap up.
@EBanonymous MORON :) ROME was declared empire after ceasar seized tha power from senate. I REPEAT TO YOU AGAIN :) GREEK INVASION IN PERSIA WAS AN ALLIANCE OF GREEK CITY STATES MADE IN CORINTH :) CAN YOU UNDERSTAND THIS?????? LOL pray to god to make you not a clown.
No. Alexander conquered Persia and ruled it for time. His 4 generals took the rest of his empire & ruled it afterwards. Hisatriy is no fairytake, except I'm talking histiry & you discuss fantasy.
But you first said Columbus was Portuguese & now say he's Greek. Then you cite Wikipedia, and swear the world began in Greece, which you say was never an empire & Alexander wasn't a king.
Right. Maybe the freaking people voted in Alexander. Wow. Ur a piece of work.
@EBanonymous MORON :) READ ABOUT THE CORINTH ALLIANCE !!!!!!! ALEXANDER WAS HEAD OF STATE OF MACEDON. THE GREEK INVASION TOOK PART ALL GREEK CITIES EXEPT SPARTA !!!!!! MORON !!!!!! READ ABOUT CORINTH ALLIANCE.
@EBanonymous MORON if you read alexander speech after all battles you will see that he said that ALL people are the same and are free. HE EVEN MARRIED a persian woman. HE was never an emperor :) He was ALWAYS HEAD OF THE GREEK ALLIANCE THAT WAS FROMED IN CORINTH. read wikipedia about corinth allaiance before the greek invasion. You are soooooo clown :)
Alexander's soeeches were just that: empty words. The peoples he conquered were no more free than any other conquered group. Your wprship of all things Greek blinds you to the fact they were not "free", and literally became subject to the whims of an absolute ruler (king) who killed people for sport.
No while not everything in Egypt on temples is 100% accurate, a whole lot is. But hen agian, a whole lot from Greece isn't correct either. All u can do is insult, That's sad.
@EBanonymous CHRISTOFOROS = CHRISTOS + FERO = CHRIST + CARRY. christoforos is a greek name and anyone who carries a greek name is either GREEK or he doesnt know WHAT HE IS ! :) now go play egyptian monopoly and find a girlfriend because your hand must be tired after so much selfsatisfaction
@EBanonymous You are indeed a stone brain! Nowadays we have human rights and can defend them,fortunately,so in the XXI century we will always condemn this kind of atitudes that at the time with a different mentality would not be considered.Mankind developped also in his behaviour,now what is BAD,is in this century USA have commited all this kind of atrocities,the UN could not be left apart from his responsabilities! And you call me Hyprocite! Just think about Ruanda!
@EBanonymous You are a narrowminded fool! The history of the world was no fairytale in any civilization,there were good and bad things.What is the part you don't understand? We enslave arabs in Ibeiran Peninsula? Have you read history really? Didn't they conquered and defeated the barbarians that have conquered the romans that were there before? Give me a break! This is History you fool!
@antmdm the history of the world moron is not what you know because you know nothing and it shows by the way you speak. You just speak "plenty of that" "general comment" no specific facts :) YOU ARE IGNORANT and its clear by what you say. You are clown m8. G-A-M-E O-V-E-R
@antmdm Do you expect united nations in 500BC???? lol At least greeks were FAR more civilized than even you today :) read Aristotle and learn what he said about comedy and drama. MORON :)
@AkaMouTinn LOLOLOLOLOL No! Waiiiiiit! IT was the Greeks or Romans that showed as the world as we know today!!!! ahahhahahahah Everybody are complete envious about Portugal History! I'm sorry to disapoint you! We were the ones who created Globalization! Wake up for life!
@EBanonymous Portugal took a leading role in Astronomy,Cartography,Science,Navigation,Mathematics,the Sagres "school" created by Henry the Navigator produced a brainstorm between many intelectuals,and new inovations were introduced,the Caravel with the latin sail to cut the wind was a very important one,for the first time Mankind would be able to make long travels and with that was able to map and discover the whole Planet.Portuguese marked the transition from the Dark ages to Modern Age.
@EBanonymous Portuguese Discoveries were important,I advise you to read a book about the subject so you could be more informed or at least to open your mind about this part of history.It was a pleasure talking to you but as we can see by the video,we should all be talking about Christopher Columbus ;) Regards to all!
"Columbus was Portuguese" the book was written by D. Luciano DaSilva -- the book is available on the amazon-com usa website --
garyksousa 10 months ago
he signed in Greek, He was from Xios! My cousins last name is columbus!
Mpresiv3 10 months ago
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Christopher Columbus was born between 25 August and 31 October 1451 in Genoa, part of modern Italy.
He married Filipa Moniz Perestrelo, daughter of the Porto Santo governor and Portuguese nobleman of Genoese origin Bartolomeu Perestrello.
The name Christopher Columbus is the Anglicisation of the Latin Christophorus Columbus. His name in his native 15th century Genoese language was Christoffa Corombo, and the Italian language version of the name is Cristoforo Colombo.
AyrtonTheBest77 1 year ago
Christopher Columbus was born between 25 August and 31 October 1451 in Genoa, part of modern Italy.
He married Filipa Moniz Perestrelo, daughter of the Porto Santo governor and Portuguese nobleman of Genoese origin Bartolomeu Perestrello.
The name Christopher Columbus is the Anglicisation of the Latin Christophorus Columbus. His name in his native 15th century Genoese language was Christoffa Corombo, and the Italian language version of the name is Cristoforo Colombo.
AyrtonTheBest77 1 year ago
"columbus was Portuguese" the book was written by Dr. Luciano Dasilva -- the book is available on the amazon-com website --
garyksousa 1 year ago 5
Columbus was Portuguese. Real name was Salvador Fernandes Zarco
Look the names he gave to the new lands.
- S. Salvador - His own name was Salvador.
-Santa Maria da Conceição – Monastery name in Beja (Alentejo) built by his father D. Fernando, Count of Beja (Uncle of Portuguese King) .
-Fernandina – In memory of his father D. Fernando.
-Isabela – In memory of his mother Isabel Zarco –Daughter of Portuguese navigator João Gonçalves Zarco who discovered Madeira.
PTlusitano 1 year ago
-Juana (Cuba) – In memory of king D. João II de Portugal, for whom he was an agent. Later to not atract attention changed for Cuba (Alentejo) homeland of Salvador Fernandes Zarco.
Learned to navigate with the Portugueses.
He had family in Portugal. His brother lived in Portugal and married an Portuguese noble. He also married an noble from Madeira wich was impossible for a poor foreigner to do and also difficult for a noble with no connections on the island.
PTlusitano 1 year ago
When he came from his first voyage he set sail at Lisbon where he spent an week. He mets with the Portuguese King and just then goes to Spain.
His letter written in Spanish have many Portuguese words.
There are more evidences but this ones are very strong.
If you think these facts are false say why they are false. If you consider them true tell why you believe in coicidences.
PTlusitano 1 year ago 3
@PTlusitano
Christopher Columbus was born between 25 August and 31 October 1451 in Genoa, part of modern Italy.
He married Filipa Moniz Perestrelo, daughter of the Porto Santo governor and Portuguese nobleman of Genoese origin Bartolomeu Perestrello.
The name Christopher Columbus is the Anglicisation of the Latin Christophorus Columbus. His name in his native 15th century Genoese language was Christoffa Corombo, and the Italian language version of the name is Cristoforo Colombo.
AyrtonTheBest77 1 year ago
@AyrtonTheBest77
A lie, told a thousand times, is still a lie
All you have to say to the facts in the video is that? You are in the wrong way of trying to prove your argument.
Columbus was Portuguese, just remind that.
PTlusitano 1 year ago
@AyrtonTheBest77 His birth certificate in Genoa was found to be a forgery, you didn't know that? lol
GundisalusMenendiz 6 months ago
Remember Columbus Day is the 11th......also, remember Coumbus was Portuguese.........
garyksousa 1 year ago
Columbus was a Greek from Chios, then part of the Rebublic of Genoa. Columbus was related to a Greek Byzantine dynasty.
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1946VITOR 1 year ago
"columbus was Portuguese" was written by Dr. Luciano Dasilva.....the book is available on the amazon website --
garyksousa 1 year ago
Why some people come here to leave their frustated comments about Portugal - a country who gave new worlds to the world? Why don't they go somewhere else and continue with their silly lives! lol The History isalready written! We don't need new teachers tyring to teach it their way! LOL
antmdm 1 year ago
@antmdm Don't you know? They come here because no one else will "entertain" them. They're just "babados" with such low self esteem coupled with an desperate inferiority complex, they're just DYING for attention. The best way to deal with these types is to ignore them and let them "spin" in their own mediocrity, ignorance and frustration. Viva Portugal e tudo que e, e foi, Portugues!!
nvieira100 1 year ago
@nvieira100 Yeah! You are right! They are frustated desesperated show off people! Let them live happy in their own ignorance,the world is happening outside but they are closed in their shells of ignorance and racism against europeans.Viva Portugal! The country who connected all the planet! The pioneer of Globalization!
antmdm 1 year ago
@antmdm
You cant even get Columbus straight. 1st hes some Zarco Potruguese guy; then hes greek! LOL And based on a translation of a name....what book is that in? "how to believe thing you read" book
At LEAST get your conspiracy theory right. So which is it, columbus is portuguese or greek? Ha ha.......
Strane hopw we were all so fooled for the past 500 years. Maybe those books u cited support that rubbish
EBanonymous 1 year ago
@EBanonymous Hey don't put words on my mouth I never said! I never said Columbus was greek! The books I recommended have nothing to do with Columbus.They are about Portuguese History so we could all prevent extremists like you from putting all Portuguese History in the same bag,because yes it is much more than slavery and crimes!Don't be racist against Portuguese,you don't have to agree with the theory but at least respect it and us.Columbus nationality was not yet proven.
antmdm 1 year ago
@antmdm
I respect your "theory" as much as I respect any other conspiracy theory like Bigfoot or Mothman or 2 headed baby gives birth to elephant.
And yes some of you clowns DO claim Columbus was Greek on here.
The racists are you. You people enslaved Africans and murdered indigenous peoples. But for pointing out these facts, you call me racist.
There was some good things Portugal did, but slavery and Genocide are not among them.
EBanonymous 1 year ago
@EBanonymous There,you finally reached the point!Slavery and Genocide are obviously no good things as I've always agreed,unfortunately something that have been present throughout History.History was no fairytale,wars were not decided by exchanging flowers.So you agree with me we also made good things,happy to know that :) By pointing out good things Portuguese History gave to the world,it doesn't mean I support and defend racism,like slavery and genocide,that was the sad part.Have a nice day!;)
antmdm 1 year ago
@antmdm Here ! Here ! LOL But aren't they hilarious though? Like going to the zoo and watching the Chimps in their cages! LOL
nvieira100 1 year ago
@nvieira100 Ahaha Yeah something like that! This individual is mixing all up! :S
antmdm 1 year ago
@antmdm He's just got a major chip on his shoulder. Clearly he doesn't feel very good about himself or his heritage, so he goes around taking his anger out on those who ARE proud of their heritage. He's stuck in the "poor me" syndrom, so he's convinced himself he can bring others down to his level. WHAT a messed up fool!!! Viva Portugal (watch...I just rattled his cage again) LOL
nvieira100 1 year ago
christoforos colombos was greek because his name is greek game over end of story. As all europe is greek since the name of europe is greek :) Also the name of britain is greek too "pritani islands". So dont be proud of your barbarian history that starts in 400AC with the fall of rome. You just copy pasted grecoroman and especially Greek culture in your lifes. All your words come from greek. Learn to speak greek and make the connection to your real past.
AkaMouTinn 1 year ago
@AkaMouTinn
Oh no. Europe is not Greek. That's rubbush. Greece, as in Homer, or anybody connected to those people, weren't even an organised people 800BCE or so. Plenty of far more advanced & successful in Europe long before the Greeks.
Then there's Assirya to the East, Babylon & ot the South Egypt, among others. There's nothing the Greeks had they didn't copy from the Egyptians who were finishing their dynasties roung the time of Homer. Columbus means Christ, and he wasn't Greek either.
EBanonymous 1 year ago
@EBanonymous you are total ignorant lol :) Egypt is even a greek word :) It means "Below agean". Literarry the country below agean. Everything europe has today literature, science etc etc BEGINS with the greeks :) Read wikipedia. Greek language is spoken in europe since 3000BC and they were the first to live in democracy in 500BC. Greeks didnt have empires because they were free people :) Not like you brainwashed idiot.
AkaMouTinn 1 year ago
@AkaMouTinn
The word "Egypt" is not the Egyptian word, which is "Kemet" & it predates the Greeks & by millenia. Edward Bernal is one of many scholars who demonstrates that that before Greek was even a though, Egypt had been the world's 1st empire, w/ advanced archicture (pyrmaids), medicine (Imhotep), language etc.
It's the Pythagarus & Hypocratis who studied in Egypt & copied from the Egyptians. Those structures were built long before Greece & you carbon date them. Ur wrong again.
EBanonymous 1 year ago
@EBanonymous you are a total moron lol :) You just write essays here saying stupid things again and again. Egypt is a greek word moron :) Check Ancient Greece under wikipedia and stop trying to prove that you are not ignorant because you are a 100% moron :) Greeks INVENTED all you have today. There are no written records about anything that is not in greek. Even the gosbels are in greek. Try to move your head around and check if you have any IQ left inside. lol
AkaMouTinn 1 year ago
@AkaMouTinn
"You cannot compare the assyrians or egyptians with greeks". And why not? Could it be because they have darker skin? Ah, and that's the point. People like you will never admit that there were highly advanced peoples before Greece was a concept, and they included black & those Middle Eastern peoples.
If the Greeks invented all that math, medicine etc. then just how did the Egyptians & every other society use it 2500 yrs before Greece?
Ah, ur answer comes from Wpedia. For u I weep
EBanonymous 1 year ago
@EBanonymous once again MORON :) The MAJORITY of today proffesors say and agree that GREECE was the cradle of the WESTERN civilization. Egyptians Assyrians and other middle east people were SEMITIC people. ONLY the persians and medes were indo european. The change from MYTH to HISTORY moron ! came from greece and only. Read and try to put inside your nonexistand brain some information. Also wikipedia is a place to start for people as ignorant as you. lol. everybody is laughing at you.
AkaMouTinn 1 year ago
@AkaMouTinn
No. The "majority" of professors who say that rubbish are either ill-informed or well informed racists. There's AT least 3000 yrs of recorded history before Greece or the Greek language was anything worth discussing.
Are these the same professors who say the US is bringing democracy to Iraq?
There were no Greeks in 2500 BCE. The Babylonians & Assyrians did NOT use hyrogliphics; they used highly advanced systems of writing completely unrelated to anything in Egpyt.
EBanonymous 1 year ago
@EBanonymous MORON there are greeks from 3000BC. again ........... read a book. Its not bad you will learn.
AkaMouTinn 1 year ago
@AkaMouTinn
3000 BCE Greece did not exist. There were some people in those areas, but they were not "Greek" and they definately didn't speak Greek.
What you're talking about came later. As 800 BCE when Homer began writing some folk tales (so much for "history"), the rest of the world had already came, gone & did some things the Greeeks never managed. There's no pyramida in Greece.
& the so called "wonders", how many were in Greece? #1 pyramids, in Egypt. Hanging Gardens, in Babylon etc..
EBanonymous 1 year ago
@EBanonymous No. 3000BC Greece DID exist :) lol check wikipedia moron. How many times we have to tell you. Ofcourse they spoke greek. If you visit greece you will discover GRAMMIKI A and GRAMMIKI B which is the text greeks used before thy develop the alphabet. But i guess you will stay a clown
AkaMouTinn 1 year ago
@AkaMouTinn
zenough with your stupid Wikipedia written by peple like yourself. There was no country Gree 3000BCE and even if you say it 100 mor x tha \t won't change. Stop calling people names, and show some respect.
Homer is a historian? If "Homer" was even a 1person is disputed, and it's definatley filled w/ mythology. Plenty more reliable data written more than 1000 years before that!
Want some old peoms, try the Pslams or the Song of Solomon. Noth predate the concept of Greece.
EBanonymous 1 year ago
@EBanonymous No. There WAS greek speaking people in greece from 3000BC and written records and pots show it. You are 100% CLOWN :) believe me you ARE CLOWN :)
AkaMouTinn 1 year ago
@EBanonymous Homer WAS A POET moron :) Herodotos was the FATHER of history. Learn or read a book. Thucidides was the first historian that ALL people learn around the world in universities :) Do you want to name a babylonian historian ???????? an egyptian historian ???????? ahahahahahahaha
AkaMouTinn 1 year ago
@AkaMouTinn
none fo those men you mentioned ws the 1st to record history. Plenty of stones in Egypt, Assirya & Babylon that predate it by a long shot, and guess what? Some are in disply in the Britsh museum & the MEt in NY.
The world doesn't revolve round "greece" except in the world of the truly delusional.
Now your racist comments against Jews is sickening, but in line with the rest of what yo said. Yes, those books predate Plato & are in Hebrew. Ur just a racist.
EBanonymous 1 year ago
@EBanonymous "plenty" of shit is what you are full of lol. I could go around say "plenty" "plenty" . TELL US SOME NAMES !!! LOL CLOWN :) Dont you understand that you are an idiot? :) dont make yourself more clown
AkaMouTinn 1 year ago
@EBanonymous clown why are you ashamed to tell us your country? is there a problem?
AkaMouTinn 1 year ago
@EBanonymous "plenty of stones in egypt ......." THE STONE HISTORIAN !!!!!!!! AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA m8 i ve never met such a clown in youtube like you before :) Its a pleasure to pown you with my little finger :) please go on :)
AkaMouTinn 1 year ago
@EBanonymous psalms ???? song of solomon????? ahahahahhaah you mean those psalms that say your jew god killed pharao with ants????????? AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Is this the literature you are proud of???????? lol clown :) Have you ever read PLATO??? :) DO YOU UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE???
AkaMouTinn 1 year ago
@EBanonymous So are you jew???? tell us what you are clown :) make us laugh more
AkaMouTinn 1 year ago
@EBanonymous ahahahahaha :) COLOSOS OF RHODES? :) MAYBE? :) also MORON! :) the wonders of ancient world were written by greeks ! :) so dont talk about greek texts ;) Also MORON :) when HOMER wrote illiad your ancestors were eating row meat in caves. And even though its a poem many of the facts have been proven history true :) lol
AkaMouTinn 1 year ago
@EBanonymous some folk tales????? lol. The first complete poem in the history of the world???? some folk tales ????? ahahahahahahahaha. Tell us about a poem of your race ! :) lol clown
AkaMouTinn 1 year ago
@EBanonymous Hey! This Video is about Colon's Origin (Columbus) Not on how he was a slave trader. THREE simple reasons he was Portuguese, ONE - DID NOT speak Italian. TWO - Married Royality you CAN NOT marry into Royalty if you are a SHOEMAKERS son..LOL and THREE - The Papal Bulls of Alexander VI (POPE) wrote his name in PORTUGUESE not in ITALIAN. E MAIS NADA
SIMPLE
THE END
PunchPow 1 year ago
@PunchPow
You really believe that?
Columbus wrote many documents in Italian, and some are reproduced online. That's not including his brothers or sons.
I wouldn't describe his marriage as royalty, though his wife's father was big in shippping & he got lucky; but later on he was given title & Coat of Arms (like being Knighted), so he became nobility
In Papal Bull "Christoforum Colon" is used, and the text is Latin not Portuguese
EBanonymous 1 year ago
There is a document at the Vatican that proves that the portuguese Sancho Brandão reached Brazil in 1343.Much before Ponce Leon or even the portuguese João Vaz Corte Real in 1472 (North America).The list of portuguese explorers & navigators is endless,it does mean a lot about the brave spirit of our nation.People just don't know enough about our history,the Discoveries mark a very wide subject in history as we are studying the history of our Planet as a whole.Portugal was decisive! Regards!
antmdm 1 year ago
@antmdm
There is no evidence that the Portugese rached Brasil in 1343. What there IS vidence for is that Portugese were runnung the slave trade in Africa, and the POPE gave them exclusive right over it in 1455 Romanus Pontifex.
Then they were using black & indigenous peoples as slaves in Brasil. U can take ur "protugese pride" & stick it with the "white pride" of the kkk, because that's what you people did
"Discovery" is a legal term to give white "Christians" landl that's history!
EBanonymous 1 year ago
@antmdm
I dont't like these idiotic "Zarco" debates on the level of bigfoot, because you people want the pride of saying Columbus (ur hero) was one of you. That's like British & Swedes arguing that Hitler was really English or Sweedish and not Austrian.
WTF do u think Columbus did? Nothing good. Slavery, murder & Genocide aren't "progress". That's nothing to be proud of. IF he hadn't got lost, maybe millions more indigenous peoples would still be in the Americans. What a terrible loss.
EBanonymous 1 year ago
OK ;;lets just say COLOMBUS was GREEK so you GUYS CAN STOP FIGHTING.....anyways in one of those supposed paintings of XPISTOFOROS,,,,I SWEAR HE LOOKS JUST LIKE ONE OF OUR FRIENDS FROM XIOS....LOL
mmaakkiinn 1 year ago
@nvieira100 ...as far as the letter R it was used in COLOMBUS times more....not the GREEK P as R.....its a bit weird he used Greek in his times if he asspciated more with SPANIARDS.....I dont know what to believe but I really think his knowlegde of GREEK was more due to an upbringing to someone who spoke and wrote GREEK....and as i mentioned before on many Islands in GREECE especially CHIOS the last name COLOMBUS exists for CENTURIES,,,there must be a connention..only gods knows I guess
mmaakkiinn 1 year ago
"Columbus was Portuguese" is the title of Dr. Luciano DaSilva's new book.....available on Amazon --
garyksousa 1 year ago
the X in greek makes the H sound that only exists in the GREEK ALPHABET and the line over letters too. one thing i do know is that i have many friends from chios,greece,,,with the last name COLOMBUS..how is that possible if italians and potugese say that colombus is a latin name how then has this name been in CHIOS for centuries,,,from what I see he had knowledge of the GREEK ALPHABET,,,,
mmaakkiinn 1 year ago
@mmaakkiinn Errr, NO Portuguese do NOT say Columbus is a latin name. We don't dispute the origin of the name Columbus. What we're saying is that the real discoverer of America was NOT of the name Columbus but of the name Colon!
nvieira100 1 year ago
@mmaakkiinn As far as using the X in the signature, well, if you know anything of the times, Greek and Latin were the classical languages of the day. All educated (aka upper class) people were educated in both languages, although Latin was the common language between nations. Just as English (unfortunately) is today.
nvieira100 1 year ago
@nvieira100 ...Im referring to the X because in GREEK it makes the H sound.....X in LATIN does not make the H sound and was used more as a NUMBER SYMBOL....and only a man educated or influenced by GREEK SURROUNDINGS would know to use the TONOS SIGN over the Xpo....which is a sign in GREEK to EMPHASIZE that the X is H and highlight the sound of that letter...plus the next letter he uses in his name is the GREEK P that makes the R sound.
mmaakkiinn 1 year ago
This is pure nonsnse. Columbus was not "Zarco"; this is bigfoot history.
He was a slave trader, brutal murderer & greedy gold seeker though. When he went to modern day Haiti/DR, he enslaved thousands & killed many more. He took slaves back to Spain too. Las Casas wrote that his men tested their swords on people.
The was only 1 discovery. The Natives discovered Genocide & slavery. So argue about "Zarco" & waste ur time on that pathetic conspiracy theory & ignore real facts. HE was a criminal
EBanonymous 1 year ago
@EBanonymous I suggest you brush up on your history. Firstly, there's absolutely ZERO factual evidence to say that "Columbus" was the Italian low class merchant the Italians tried to feed to the world. I guess in your mind it's less a pathetic theory to say an uneducated, illiterate, low class merchant would somehow teach himself latin and scientific skills enabling him to navigate across the ocean, rather than the son of an earlier explorer. What colour is the sun in YOUR world! LOL
nvieira100 1 year ago
"Columbus was Portuguese" written by Luciano DaSilva is available for sale on the amazon website.....
garyksousa 1 year ago 3
Let's not forget the Portuguese were the first on USA soil not Ponce De Leon!
We were the first to stand on Floridian soil!! the same year we were in Brasil!!
On the way home we stopped in Florida!! and all along the eastern coast of the US!!! Who do you think told the English about USA!!! Ponce De Leon? hahaha
You think the English were explores? hahaha....
xCmoreX 1 year ago 3
@xCmoreX Very interesting video and wonderful music. Can you please tell me the name of the singer and the songs' titles? thanks
roukisaris 1 year ago
@xCmoreX No to mention the fact that they were also the first in Canada. The brothers Cortes Real landed in what is now Newfoundland, in early 1500s. Labrador is the Portuguese name for farmer. The earliest surviving world map dated 1535, clearly labels Newfoundland and Labrador as "Lands of the King of Portugal". ...
nvieira100 1 year ago
@xCmoreX AND if Colon (or "Columbus") was a low born Genoan, how in the world did he ever acquire a coat of arms?! Only nobility were allowed coats of arms ... that also explains why he would have been allowed to come into contact, let alone marry, a Portuguese noble-woman.
nvieira100 1 year ago
Yes it's a pity that all the secret discoveries documents of Portugal were destroyed with the Portuguese Lisbon Earthquake. But There is a "Canada" in south Portugal, "Cuba" where Salvador Zarco was born. He never spoke or wrote in Italian, only in Portuguese and Spanish, and wrote Portuguese words by mistake when writing in Spanish. The Italian man wasn't even a navigator and the signature was Colombus, not Cólon. It's a pity that nobody cares about the truth.
crashhpt 1 year ago 5
Also, amongst the first Portuguese there were lots of Vikings. Portugal had Viking cities, like Povoa de Varzim, created by Vikings that have still nowadays RUNES on their tradicions and paintings. Viking descendents that knew about the existence of America on old stories. And check Tordesilhas treaty where Portugal refused to sign the treaty to divide the world in half, until the king gained more miles to maintain on his hands Brazil which he already knew. Salvador Zarco.
crashhpt 1 year ago
@crashhpt Wait, wait, wait. Vikings???? Are you talking about the Visigoths and the Alans? They were not Vikings. They were germanic tribes. Vikings are Nordic. Vikings did not land in Portugal.
nvieira100 1 year ago
I mean, the signature was Colon and not Colombus. My mistake. :) Colombus as a navigator is an invention by the Italian, a people that never discovered anything through the seas.
crashhpt 1 year ago 7
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Here is a List of Early Maps of Canada, Nautical Chart 1424
Cantino map 1502
Pedro Reinal Map 1504
Miller Atlas 1519
Diogo Ribeiro map 1529
Map of Joao Freire 1546
Fernao Vaz Dourado 1576
All these maps say Land of King of Portugal or Land of Corte Real. Explain this You English thieves!! John Cabot was a Fake Person so the English could push there way in.
Giovani Caboto O Caralho!!
PunchPow 1 year ago
@crashhpt Exactly!!!
nvieira100 1 year ago
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The reason that you don't find any writings in Italian from Columbus is because he was essentially illiterate until his adult life which was lived abroad in countries like Portugal and Spain. During his time the Portuguese were leading the world in navigation and he learned most of his advanced seamanship from the Portuguese. He even married a Portuguese woman and is buried in Portugal.
MORCOPOLO0817 1 year ago
PORTUGUÊS 1000%%%%%
5quinas74 2 years ago 4
The Discoverer of the Americas was Christopher Colon not Columbus go look at his grave. Where do people get the name Columbus??? It is not written columbus anywhere in old writtings!! His real name is Salvador Fenandes Zarco spy for the King of Portugal. Anyway Joao Vaz Corte Real discovered Canada 19 years before Colon columbus 1473.
PunchPow 2 years ago 4
Good point, maybe we should give also more attention to Corte Real for discovering Canada than only to Christopher Colon. That's why there are cities founded with Portuguese names on Canada like Bacalao, and I think Corte Real family had lands on South Portugal named Canada, in Algarve where I think Corte Real family had lands, hence the country name Canada.
crashhpt 1 year ago 4
@crashhpt But also don't forget that Cuba is a town in the Alentejo ... no where in Spain or Italy is there a place called Cuba. Coincidence? I think not.
nvieira100 1 year ago
@PunchPow I think you're mistaken on the date. Gaspar Cortes Real sailed under Dom Manuel I's crown. Dom Manuel I ascended the throne of Portugal in 1495. Cortes Real sailed for Greenland (same trip he reached Canada) in 1500. He never returned to Portugal and is assumed to have died in Canada circa 1501. Also by 1520, Portuguese attempted colonization in Cape Breton Island, and by the mid-1500s in Nova Scotia as well.
Portugal opened the world to the world! Globalization had begun.
nvieira100 1 year ago
"Columbus was Portuguese".....was written by Luciano Da Silva....the book is available on the amazon web site--
garyksousa 2 years ago 6
Two very simple reasons Colon(Columbus) was NOT Italian!!! First His Discoveries were named in Portuguese and in spanish to please the king of Spain, Second he didn't write a word in Italian nor speak it... Mama mia.. If you Dont know the Real History of 15 century navigation then read about it..
PunchPow 2 years ago
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Hello PunchPow.
Christopher COLOMBO was SO italian!!! First he was born to ITALIAN PARENTS WHO WERE BORN IN ITALY. THESE ITALIAN NAMES WERE: father: Dominico Colombo and Susanna Fontanarossa now those names tell he was Italian by blood. He was very smart and knew different languages other than his native Italian. He was funded meaning giving money for expenses to explore something he was passionate about. HE wanted to explore the Western trade route.
FeelingBeautiful 2 years ago
Hey Beautiful!! Haha i bet you like being called that. The Fact is there was a colombo in Portugal at the time, this man was son of a wool weaver . Colon married a noble woman of Portuguese Royality, My Friend NOOO Foreigner without Royal blood could marry a Noble.. Sorry That's the truth.. His Father was Duke of Beja. Not son Of a Wool weaver... The Genoa story is a fake because Portugal fooled Spain so well.. Thats embarrassing...
PunchPow 2 years ago
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@PunchPow
Are you ok? We are discussing the explorer of the Americas.
"Chrisopher Columbus" was Italian.
FeelingBeautiful 2 years ago
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I thought he was a british the spanish paid to go to america?
i thought columbus meant dove in british or something.
mongoose100989 2 years ago
Dr,Manuel L Dasilva the author of the book is a historical Genius. The WORLD will finally see the truth about Columbus.. Buy the book it is a must.
PunchPow 2 years ago 4
You is singing?-It is beautiful
draeself 2 years ago 4
Her name is Dulce Pontes, she has a great voice, You should listen to her and Andre Bocelli together, it's even greater. You can find it on You Tube. salute
GundisalusMenendiz 2 years ago 6
October 12...is Columbus Day...Remember Columbus was Portuguese....
garyksousa 2 years ago 7
Muitos parabéns por este trabalho, esta muito bem conseguido...é muita coincidencia, nomes portugueses dados às ilhas e terras...só quem não quer ver com a razão e não com a emoção...
PortugalLuso 2 years ago 10
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I think he was Greek, ask me foer evidence! I think he was from Chios, then part of the Genovese rebublic. he writes his name using the Greek letters X (chi) and ρ (rho)
22poopoo 2 years ago
wow, you mean I have xcmorex so I might be Greek too? The X has also been in the Portuguese and Galician language for centuries, Meaning before Rome . X is one of the letters in our alphabet that separates us from any Latin Language. We have lots of words with X, but more in recent times,the Portuguese language been dropping it. From X (chis) to ch. Spanish and Italian don't even use it. Spanish can't pronounce. they call it xexe I think, that became X in English. But correct me if I'm wrong.
xCmoreX 2 years ago
Well I would't know. But he wrote Greek anootations in books and informal things.
Do you want me to send you some things that suggest he was Greek?
22poopoo 2 years ago
man ok dont even try saying he was greek, wtf would a greek guy be doing in spain in the late 15th century...cummon, and yes i would like to see those "things" that suggest he's greek
Antunheta 2 years ago
@xCmoreX Not only that, but both Greek & Latin were the classical languages of the time. All educated people learned to read, write and speak both languages, though Latin was the "universal" language of commerce and diplomatic communication, like English today (sad to say). It's normal to see Greek abbrev. and annotations written in any European and British writings of the time. I wonder if 22poopoo thinks that all Dr's were Greek as well, since Greek was the language of medicine. lol
nvieira100 1 year ago
"Columbus was Portuguese" is the name of the new book.....written by Dr. Luciano DaSilva.....available on Ebay and Amazon....
garyksousa 2 years ago 5
Now wasnt he the leader of his expedition?
Yea,he was,giveing his spainairds permission to *once again*,rape and murder the natives.
EXACTLY,he brought back natives to prove he "found" Native America.
And the dumbass thought he found Japan?
Columbus DID in fact start tradeing Natives to europe.
Hollywood didnt tell me this,it was pure history.
Chainsawcannibal 2 years ago
@Chainsawcannibal Hmmm, so what's the excuse for "enlightened" America in the 19th century, when they were "BREEDING" slaves after laws were passed against importing them? Not to mention mutilating and raping them? Including American PRESIDENTS!!! There's a whole branch of black descendants that have proved through DNA their descent from Thomas Jefferson! So, before you start talking about brutalization that occurred in the 15th and 16th centuries, learn your recent, more local history.
nvieira100 1 year ago
@nvieira100 NO SHIT THOSE CRIMES HAPPENED!
Why the fuck are you bringing up crimes on a tottal different page,this is about Colombus and his Murdering,enslaving Generals.
Thanks for defending a nation that murdered my race,enslaved us,and won't even acknoledge it.
Chainsawcannibal 1 year ago
@Chainsawcannibal
You're right. People like nviera are not woth your time. he/she cn't deal with the fact that Columbus started the trans-Altantic slave trade, killed thousands upon thousands of innocent people, chopped people up and hanged them in the number 13 as a sick representation of the 12 Apostles. Those were "Christians" who spread not the bible, but slavery, murder and rape. Las Casas wote about it, and so did others. Jeseus didn't teach that.
nviera is a nasty one.
EBanonymous 1 year ago
@EBanonymous Oh really? Can't handle anyone calling a spade a spade? Here. Let me spell it out for you ... clearly you aren't capable of connecting the dots by yourself. "Columbus" did not do what you're psychopathic imagination leads you to believe. Yes, the Spanish (NOT Columbus himself) did brutalize the natives, BUT they certainly didn't have exclusivity. CLEARLY you and your equally ignorant friend have no CLUE about your OWN history. Let's start with the Aztechs shal we? ....
nvieira100 1 year ago
@EBanonymous Human sacrifice en-masse is what the Aztecs are best known for, apart from their pyramids, which by the way, were the very temples where their sacrificial victims were tossed from once the oh so peaceful, humane Aztecs finished cutting out the hearts of their victims while they were still alive! And why did they do this? R E L I G I O N!!!!! Yup that's right. Human sacrifices to their Gods! And this to their neighbouring tribes. Yup, poor, poor natives indeed. Now to slavery..
nvieira100 1 year ago
@EBanonymous So, you think the American natives didn't hold slaves do you? Right I forgot. You can't read. Actually, they did and they traded in slaves. Or are you saying that slavery trade is only wrong if it "trans-Atlantic" slave trade? Well, that would make hypocritical as well as ignorant! Nice combination! LOL I'm sure if they native Americans had had the advance knowledge as did the Europeans, they would have been slave trading across the Atlantic as well you moron(s)!
nvieira100 1 year ago
@EBanonymous And now to connect the dots you're having such a difficult time connecting ... THAT WAS THE TIMES THEY WERE LIVING IN! What we term brutality today, was common place, yes including in the Americas!
nvieira100 1 year ago
@EBanonymous So, no. I'm not "a nasty one", just well informed! You should try it reading! You'll find your vocabulary will increase such that you won't have to resort to profanity (language imbeciles) to TRY to get your point across! Have you learned anything? Doubtful. Clearly you don't have two brains cells to rub together. LOL!!!
nvieira100 1 year ago
@nvieira100
Yes Aztecs did human sacrifice, & some tribes held slaves. The sacrifice #'s are inflated & the slavery was not like Euro\American chattel. The Spanish used THAT as a pretext to murder them. So yes all societies do bad things, but the indigenous didn't enslave & kill Europeans/Amerricns.
Read my comments. I never made these claims; ur changing the subject. & Columbus is responsible for those crimes as the Admiral allowed his men to do it. He even went on trial. Ur beligerant
EBanonymous 1 year ago
@Chainsawcannibal Read my responose to your friend EBanonymous ... it connects the dots for you. Your nation did enough murdering and enslaving of their OWN race for centuries before Europeans ever landed here, you imbecile!! LMAO!!!
nvieira100 1 year ago
@nvieira100
You call the indigenous people violent; they did their dirt like all. They're not prefect
The violent ones were the Euro/Americans who 1) took 12 million from Africa & made them slaves; 2) murdered millions of indigenous people for their land; 3) worship their own criminals - like Columbus - & celebrate those crimes.
I don't agree w/ indigfeonous religions. Is Catholicism better? 1455 & 1493 pope authorised the killing in Papal Bulls. Do u say this to justify killing them? Sad
EBanonymous 1 year ago
@EBanonymous Well DUH!!! Even spelling it out for you, you completely missed the point! LOL!!!!!!!!!! (sorry, can't stop laughing. You're SOOOO funny!! Here, let me try to help you once again (although it's becoming like throwing pearls to swines ... useless!)... THAT WAS THE TIMES THEY WERE LIVING IN ... WHAT'S CONSIDERED "GENOCIDE" TODAY WAS OF THE NORM BACK THEN ... REGARDLESS OF CONTINENT, RACE OR RELGION!!. Nooooowwww do you get it? LOL!! Thanks for the entertainment. ROTFLMAO!!!!
nvieira100 1 year ago
@nvieira100
Say what u want, but the facts are the European/Americans killed millions in the 15th century-ate19th century w/Genocide of Native peoples. Stole 12 million Africans and mad them slaves (they were free people prior).
That's not even WW1 or WW2. Shal we count the millions slaughtered? You can't blame the Aztecs for that one. How many did the WHITE nazix kill? Verdun? Far more than any crimes the Aztecs ever could do. Aztecs were 1 of many groups. Not all even did that stuff
EBanonymous 1 year ago
@EBanonymous Unfortunately Slavery exists as far as the time of Egyptians and Romans.There is nothing good in that,but you can't put all the blame on the Portuguese.The Portuguese did had a MAJOR role in the History of the World because we were the vehicle that united different cultures in Africa,America and Asia.What it produced can be seen in expositions like "Encompassing the Globe" that was in Smithosian Institute,the greatest exposition there regarding the number of artifacts.
antmdm 1 year ago
@EBanonymous About abuses,they existed since humankind exists unfortunately it is still going on today,I can't accept the complete INVASION of the USA in Afganistan or Iraq.Because inocent people that live there have no fault for the sad terrorist attacks in NY.So I don't defend abuses or slavery BUT you can't reduce Portuguese History and Role in the world to that.The contact the Portuguese had with different cultures made the world become closer,smaller and the Globalization began!Regards!
antmdm 1 year ago
@antmdm
Yes slavery goes LONG before Portugal . Pope gave Alfonso a monopoly on it's gold & slave markets in Africa 1455 w/ Romanus Pontifex. Why? They weren't "exploring"
Globalisation = movement of people & in this case it's in slave ships. So yes, Portugal deserves credit for that, along w/ Spanish, Dutch & British. But neither that nor their behaviour in Americas improved the world. Not for the millions of victims of Genocide. That's beyond Egypt & Rome. There's pride in that?
EBanonymous 1 year ago
@antmdm
I wasn't saying Portugal started slavery; of course it's not new. They did fight the Spanish (Castile) over the right to enslave the "Sarcerens" and the "infidels", using the words the of Pope Alexander V who happily took part in assisting their crimes against humanity.
Iraq/Afghanistan (unspeakable crimes), don't even compare with what the Portugese, Spanish, Dutch, French & English did in Africa & the Americas.
EBanonymous 1 year ago
@EBanonymous History has always both sides,the good and the bad.Slavery,abuses are always a dark side that should be criticized.But I don't think you are dealing well with the subject,you just want to see one side,that is a fact.So you want to know what Globalization is...As a Global proccess it involved many important things that changed the face of the world as we know today.
antmdm 1 year ago
@EBanonymous There was a slave trade yes,unfortunately,that is something that I'm not proud of,but indirectly Africans brought with them a culture that changed forever most America Continent Coast and also in Asia (like food and music).That is a result of Globalization too.Nowadays we can't live without music and we owe it to Africa,because they spread their roots all over the world.And music as we know today has its roots in Africa (unless Classic or Ethnic)!
antmdm 1 year ago
@EBanonymous About the many "Goods" about Globalization is exactly that exchange of different cultures of different continents,you can check that in that amazing exposition "Encompassing the Globe" - Knowledge,culture traveled and mixed with every continent.America,Asia,Europe and Africa were connected with a storm of different things that were arriving and introduced to each other.Just to know we began to be all connected,is the beggining of the World as a whole and that was most important.
antmdm 1 year ago
@EBanonymous Did you know for example that Portuguese introduced: Tea in Europe? The Shotgun in Japan and was that event that was very important to unify Japan? The chillies,potatoes,tobacco in India and Indochine? Many plants in Africa? Did you know that portuguese explorers cartographed many parts of the world in America,Asia,Africa and Oceania? Did you know that Fernão Mendes Pinto "opened" Asia to the ocident after his travels for more than 20 years writting the amazing book "Pilgrimage"?
antmdm 1 year ago
@antmdm
The Portuguese and the Pope made few pretences about their goals: make slaves, take their gold, ivory & then grow sugar & other slave labour crops in their colonies. The whole POINT of the Papal Bulls is to decide wheter Spain or Portugal gets the honour of killing & dominating more people.
Sorry, but the US meerly copied ur example, which was copied from earlier ones. Need I discuss the crimes of the fascist dictator in Portugal up to the 70's? Hitler had some friends there too.
EBanonymous 1 year ago
@antmdm
And don't even start with that BS of going to Asia to help Japanese or others. The Japanese burnt those "Christians" at the stake in Nagasaki because they were no different from other "holy" men like Matteo Ricci; Jesuits who just wanted to subdue & conquer, using religion as a crusade to convert the "infidels".
Quit while ur ahead. You have no argument. To even defend these criminals is exactly what the NYTimes does when it supports the US in Afghanistan. Portugal invaded many too.
EBanonymous 1 year ago
@EBanonymous About Usa Invasion in Iraq/Afganistan,it has just the difference to have happened in a different century.Plus Usa brought nothing new to those countries,they only were interested in invading and stealing all the natural resources,having the excuse of fighting terrorism - a woman told a reporter that before Usa there was oil,all natural resources,after Usa,they have nothing,she had to sell a kidney to feed her 3 children! For me it is as bad as any invasion!
antmdm 1 year ago
@antmdm
WTF do you think the Portuguese were doing in Africa & Brasil? Helping people by spreading fruits & music? They were interested in glod, slaves & "god", as the term went. They & Eruopeans forced 12 million free Africans to become slaves, losing 20% in the voyages.
They contributed nothing to Africa; they robbed it, raped it & did the same to native peoples. Alfonso, Hnery & others were far more despotic than Bush, and ur wilfull blindness to their crimes is astounding.
EBanonymous 1 year ago
@antmdm
How you can even hint that good came from the slave trade ie music, food is an indication of the level of wilfull blindness you've got towards your own peoples crimes. Portugal's history is drenched in the blood of the innocent, and is just as guilty as the Spanish or any other empire.
Go ask their victims if they felt it was a "cintribution" to be dragged from Africa, raped & had their languages, culture & religions taken away 6 FORCED to be Catholic. The Indigenous? Total Genocide.
EBanonymous 1 year ago
@antmdm
Only the most racist & biggest supportes of empire get on tv today and openly state how the US is helping Iraq & Afghanistan. That's what you're doing when you claim the Portuguese helped the world.
Remember the millions your people killed the next time you go into one of those splendid cathederals. The gold came from slave mines & murdered indigenous peoples. As u bow down to those images, u might have some pity on them. That's the Portuguese "contribution" = Genocide & slavery.
EBanonymous 1 year ago
@EBanonymous You are blind,go read some History.Unfortunately History was written in blood.Any history in any country has war,has blood.What are you trying to prove with that? Your ignorance about History blind you to understand that Africa was very poor in terms of fauna and the introduction of plants by the Portuguese enrichen the continent,but you can't see that because all you see is your stupid point of view.Yes Slavery is sad but Portuguese contribution is not just that! READ!
antmdm 1 year ago
@antmdm
And the Portuguese history is filled with FAR more murder than most. And the mixing w/ natives means the forced rape of untold numbers of indigenous & African women. Another proud achievement that's easy to read about.
They weren't "explorers" doing maps only; they were literally making slaves & using them in Brasil. The Chinese w/ Jung ho were 10x more advaned than Portugal on the sea ever was in 1450 nonetheless. Magellan, another brutal murderer u idolise who proved what
EBanonymous 1 year ago
@EBanonymous Another thing you haven't READ,is that Portuguese did mixed with the locals,and not only exterminated like the spanish,english,dutch or french...Just for you to have an idea most of the crews had africans,READ History! Cartography is not Slavery! Before Gil Eanes passed Bojador Cape,the world though that beyond that line,water would burn! The world though the Indian Ocean was like a closed big lake,the Portuguese proved it was an ocean! Ferdinand Magellan proved the planet was round
antmdm 1 year ago
@antmdm
the rest of the world already had known years before the dark ages in Europe, in which Portugal took a leading role.
Not a damn thing was "discovered", just introduced to ignorant Europeans who came, killed & stole what they found WITH NO benefit to the locals. Any historybook you use is one I'd stay far away from.
Strange that Las Casas & Columbus' writings as well as others don't say the same about "explorers". Lessons by fascists. Why don't Africnas celebrate ur mythology?
EBanonymous 1 year ago
@EBanonymous Ok,you have no knowledge about history really,you just have your point of view,ok,for you Portuguese Discoveries,Globalization = abuse,murders...You have the right to have your opinion and I respect that,I also think that you have a point when you say that abuses were made,I agree BUT that is not all,Portuguese Discoveries are much more than that,but well unfortunately there are more and more extremists,and they only can see their point of view and live in their ignorance...
antmdm 1 year ago
@antmdm
This isn't my opinion. The UN met in April & discussed these Portuguese & Spanish "discoveries" & the "Doctrine of Discovery", which they call racist & the legal basis for US Indian Law.
Item no 1 on the agenda: how these "discoveries" allowed millions to be made slaves, millions of indigenous in Americas to be murdered & how "discovery" is nothing more than a legal pretext to continue the theft in 2010.
That's what they UN discussed. You instead honour these criminals
EBanonymous 1 year ago
@EBanonymous the difference between greek and any other civiliazion is the difference between a child and man. Read profesor KITO book "The Greeks" and stop talking bla bla bla without reading first. You cannot compare assyrians or egyptians with greeks. The difference is HUGE. Greeks developed and perfected EVERYTHING you have today in art and science. Open your eyes and stop vometing words around. Stop being a total moron. People laugh at you.
AkaMouTinn 1 year ago
@AkaMouTinn
I never said "Egypt" the word itself was an Egyptian word. Yo keep saying that. Just because today "Egypt" is used, doesn't mean that the Greeks named Egypt. The Civilisation & language existed 2 millenia before Alexander, and in their language it's "Kemet".
Ur just making stuff up. What is Torah? Written in Hebrew by Moses before Greek was a language. The rest is in Aramaic, which also predates Greek.
Since I don't rely on wikipedia, I'm more confident in what I say.
EBanonymous 1 year ago
@AkaMouTinn
WTF do you think thy heiroglifics are? Is that something the Greeks invented? Or perhaps the Greeks built the Spinx or city of Babylon?
Oh do explian the origin of the clay tablets in the archives at Niniveh written in - no not Greek - Cueniform. Perhaps the Greeks also buit Persopilis. No. They could only think of destroying it.
Did Greeks also invent paper? But they did a lot of molestation. Somthing the Portuguese know a lot about, as they did it to many. Ur truly sad.
EBanonymous 1 year ago
@EBanonymous LOL ! moron :) Do you know anything about the heiroglifics of ancient greeks? :) in 2500BC??? :) lol ALL people used this type of writing UNTIL the greeks PERFECTED the alphabet ! MORON ! LOL :) Dont you see that the DIFFERENCE OF greece is that for the first time THEY PERFECTED AND DEVELOPED everything and THUS they showd what the human mind is for. Dont say another thing unless you read more. You just show us you are a clown :) lol
AkaMouTinn 1 year ago
@EBanonymous and AGAIN MORON :) VIRTUALLY ALL !!!! ALL WRITTEN RECORDS about ancient civilizations comes FROM GREEK TEXTS !! LOL :) So you want to be a jew? :) no problem :) you want to be assyrian??? no problem !! you want to be egyptian??? NO PROBLEM !!! but you are not greek lol. Because you cannot speak or understand greek and thats what makes you a sad figure :) You cant have any oppinion unless you can read PLATO from the original. Lol try to compare plato with the torah! LOL
AkaMouTinn 1 year ago
@AkaMouTinn
No, the written records do not all come from Greece, just the ones you refer to. There are litrally tens of thousands of untranslated stone tablets in Babylon & the Nineveh, among other places. Some just choose to ignore the rest of the world.
Well the Jews do just fine speaking Hebrew, and some still speak Aramaic. None of those words come from Greek. Then there's the Chinese and some interesting ones over in India. Greek then Latin became ddominant, but they weren't the 1st.
EBanonymous 1 year ago
@EBanonymous No. You are and idiot :) lol
AkaMouTinn 1 year ago
@EBanonymous No. Moron i dont say that there are not other "brands" of wine. What i am saying is that the brands you are refering too is rubish. Greek was the best civilization ever and is the only one that trully showed what the human mind is for. The english poet shieler said "we are all greeks". Uberto Eco said "we stand on the backs of giants and because of that we are able to see further". and so on...... But no worries go on with your sleep. Are you jew btw? or muslim? lol
AkaMouTinn 1 year ago
@EBanonymous search amazon for "The Greeks" by proffesor KITO and JUST read the introduction lol. You will see your stupidity. The problem with you is that you DONT understand that 50% of you vocabulary is greek and Latin lol. And you STILL have an opinion about the greeks lol. If you want to say that greeks are nothing the STOP USING THEIR WORDS !!! :) Invent your language ! lol moron
AkaMouTinn 1 year ago
@EBanonymous and just for you to know GREEK people lived and created civilization from 3000BC. check the tomb of ATREAS and Mycenae. Check the speach by pericles after the peloponisian was !!! and I DARE you find me another text like this from the ancient world that sounds as MODERN and so DEMOCRATIC as today. lol ! moron DEMO + KRATOS = PEOPLE + HOLD POWER. This is one of millions of words you own to greeks. So do you have copyright? lol. You go buy copyright from egyptian words!!! muhamad !
AkaMouTinn 1 year ago
@AkaMouTinn
Oh, Greece & democracy. You're truly in la-la land. 3/4ths of the people were freaking slaves. You really want to talk about democracy? wow. Even if you want to discuss it, that's doesn't date to nefore 500bce & only in Athens.
But these same democrats went to molest their victims after voting, so there's much to admire. Many people have a Greek name. And Hebrew too. That doesn't change a person's race.
Columbus was not Greek or even Portuguese. Get ur story straight.
EBanonymous 1 year ago
@EBanonymous you are a moron. ALL greek states had democracies in a strong or weak way. There were NEVER empires in greece and NEITHER kings. The citizens were MEMBERS of the state and NOT SUBJECTS :) thats the big difference. If there was oligarchy or democracy they were ALWAYS subjects. But i guess you knew this too ;) LOL. you are powned clown.
AkaMouTinn 1 year ago
@AkaMouTinn
So now Sparta was a decocracy too? You just keep digging. They had a freaking king! Who was King Philip of Macedon? His son Alexander? He wasn't a king? He didn't have an empire? WTF are you talking about?
People weren't sunjects? 3/4 just happened to be literal slaves, including Athens. What do you call them Free men and "citizens"? wow.
If the Greeks were "the best", then why did their emoire get conquered and fall? Why don't we all speak Greek? I'm not Greek. Maybe u r.
EBanonymous 1 year ago
@EBanonymous SPARTA MORON ! was a state :) with OLYGARHI. Citizens of SPARTA clown were MEMBERS of the state even with not full democracy. CITIZENS OF BABYLON MORON WERE WORSHIPIN THE GOD KING :) FOR thousands of years. DO YOU UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE MORON? :) :)
AkaMouTinn 1 year ago
@EBanonymous MORON ! :) Alexander the great was not king of greeks. The word "king" was uknown to greeks. He was head of POLIS "STATE" in ancient greece. AND he was so proud that he united the greeks in CORINTH ALLIANCE that when he defeated the persians in ASIA MINOR he sent 100 armors to parthenon with the text "Alexander son of philip and the greeks MINUS spartans" !!!! This means MORON that there were allies not subject to a god king. And alexander sent this to ATHENS ! not macedon
AkaMouTinn 1 year ago
@AkaMouTinn
Alexander was deefinately a king, and he had a huge empire. Why you want to mince words is beyond me. He was an absolute ruler, and there no democracy at all in his kingdom.
Surely his best friend didn't think so when Alexander murdered him. I've heard some real nonsense on here, but you ...I'd laugh, but the stuff you say is so ridiclous it's not even funny. it's just plain sad that you could actually believe even 10% of it
G back to wikipedia, great advice from scholar like u
EBanonymous 1 year ago
@EBanonymous MORON Alexander NEVER had an empire. He died JUST before anything could be done. THERE WAS NEVER A GREEK EMPIRE. because GREEKS were FREE Men :) Do you understand that????? do we have to put it in your brain :) ?? Even today we dont have monarchy while britain still has :) We call our polity democracy while USA emulates Roman autocracy with senate. But why dont you tell us what you are clown ?? are you ashame for your race?
AkaMouTinn 1 year ago
@AkaMouTinn
"no empire"? Alexander didn't conquer the Medes and Persians long before he went to India and returned to Babylon where he died? That's no an empire?
What dictionary are u using????????????????????????? The Persians under Greek rule weren't free any more than the majority of child molesting Greek slaves were. They were not "free" mr ideology.
The only shame to aything is people who just make crap up.
EBanonymous 1 year ago
@EBanonymous MORON :) ROME was declared empire after ceasar seized tha power from senate. I REPEAT TO YOU AGAIN :) GREEK INVASION IN PERSIA WAS AN ALLIANCE OF GREEK CITY STATES MADE IN CORINTH :) CAN YOU UNDERSTAND THIS?????? LOL pray to god to make you not a clown.
AkaMouTinn 1 year ago
@AkaMouTinn
No. Alexander conquered Persia and ruled it for time. His 4 generals took the rest of his empire & ruled it afterwards. Hisatriy is no fairytake, except I'm talking histiry & you discuss fantasy.
But you first said Columbus was Portuguese & now say he's Greek. Then you cite Wikipedia, and swear the world began in Greece, which you say was never an empire & Alexander wasn't a king.
Right. Maybe the freaking people voted in Alexander. Wow. Ur a piece of work.
EBanonymous 1 year ago
@EBanonymous MORON :) READ ABOUT THE CORINTH ALLIANCE !!!!!!! ALEXANDER WAS HEAD OF STATE OF MACEDON. THE GREEK INVASION TOOK PART ALL GREEK CITIES EXEPT SPARTA !!!!!! MORON !!!!!! READ ABOUT CORINTH ALLIANCE.
AkaMouTinn 1 year ago
@EBanonymous MORON if you read alexander speech after all battles you will see that he said that ALL people are the same and are free. HE EVEN MARRIED a persian woman. HE was never an emperor :) He was ALWAYS HEAD OF THE GREEK ALLIANCE THAT WAS FROMED IN CORINTH. read wikipedia about corinth allaiance before the greek invasion. You are soooooo clown :)
AkaMouTinn 1 year ago
@AkaMouTinn
Alexander's soeeches were just that: empty words. The peoples he conquered were no more free than any other conquered group. Your wprship of all things Greek blinds you to the fact they were not "free", and literally became subject to the whims of an absolute ruler (king) who killed people for sport.
No while not everything in Egypt on temples is 100% accurate, a whole lot is. But hen agian, a whole lot from Greece isn't correct either. All u can do is insult, That's sad.
EBanonymous 1 year ago
@EBanonymous empty words?????? lol WE WANT YOUR WORDS !!!! PLEASE GIVE US YOUR WORDS !!!!!! AHAHHAHAHAHAHAH
AkaMouTinn 1 year ago
@EBanonymous CHRISTOFOROS = CHRISTOS + FERO = CHRIST + CARRY. christoforos is a greek name and anyone who carries a greek name is either GREEK or he doesnt know WHAT HE IS ! :) now go play egyptian monopoly and find a girlfriend because your hand must be tired after so much selfsatisfaction
AkaMouTinn 1 year ago
@EBanonymous You are indeed a stone brain! Nowadays we have human rights and can defend them,fortunately,so in the XXI century we will always condemn this kind of atitudes that at the time with a different mentality would not be considered.Mankind developped also in his behaviour,now what is BAD,is in this century USA have commited all this kind of atrocities,the UN could not be left apart from his responsabilities! And you call me Hyprocite! Just think about Ruanda!
antmdm 1 year ago
@antmdm No. Y-O-U A-R-E A C-L-O-W-N :) In fact you are just making yourself idiot with every answer you type. Just stop. We are all laughing at you
AkaMouTinn 1 year ago
@EBanonymous You are a narrowminded fool! The history of the world was no fairytale in any civilization,there were good and bad things.What is the part you don't understand? We enslave arabs in Ibeiran Peninsula? Have you read history really? Didn't they conquered and defeated the barbarians that have conquered the romans that were there before? Give me a break! This is History you fool!
antmdm 1 year ago
@antmdm you are a complete clown :) lol thanks to make us laugh today !!! :) hahahaha
AkaMouTinn 1 year ago
@antmdm the history of the world moron is not what you know because you know nothing and it shows by the way you speak. You just speak "plenty of that" "general comment" no specific facts :) YOU ARE IGNORANT and its clear by what you say. You are clown m8. G-A-M-E O-V-E-R
AkaMouTinn 1 year ago
@antmdm Do you expect united nations in 500BC???? lol At least greeks were FAR more civilized than even you today :) read Aristotle and learn what he said about comedy and drama. MORON :)
AkaMouTinn 1 year ago
@AkaMouTinn LOLOLOLOLOL No! Waiiiiiit! IT was the Greeks or Romans that showed as the world as we know today!!!! ahahhahahahah Everybody are complete envious about Portugal History! I'm sorry to disapoint you! We were the ones who created Globalization! Wake up for life!
antmdm 1 year ago
@antmdm yes yes dont worry .......... everything is ok until you take your medicine :) just take your medicine.
AkaMouTinn 1 year ago
@EBanonymous Portugal took a leading role in Astronomy,Cartography,Science,Navigation,Mathematics,the Sagres "school" created by Henry the Navigator produced a brainstorm between many intelectuals,and new inovations were introduced,the Caravel with the latin sail to cut the wind was a very important one,for the first time Mankind would be able to make long travels and with that was able to map and discover the whole Planet.Portuguese marked the transition from the Dark ages to Modern Age.
antmdm 1 year ago
@EBanonymous Portuguese Discoveries were important,I advise you to read a book about the subject so you could be more informed or at least to open your mind about this part of history.It was a pleasure talking to you but as we can see by the video,we should all be talking about Christopher Columbus ;) Regards to all!
antmdm 1 year ago