Sonic 3 & Knuckles Lava Reef Zone act 2

[ctressle]

How did you keep the fire shield at roughly 38 sec into when the sprite was right in front of the spike-ball sprites? Both are directly above the cylindrical platform right before you jump!

[MRMIdAS2k]

@ctressle

Luck.

I really have no idea, I think it just missed me. way too close for my liking.

[JMouzone990]

Knuckles is such a dick in this game

[Kimiomega]

the first time I come there the death egg scared the crap out of me O.O

[Xpower8008X]

how come on 2:15 you walked on the lava and it didnt kill you?

[MRMIdAS2k]

@Xpower8008X

Fire Shield.

[JKDshogun]

Epic Song

[natalironaldo]

This music is awesome

[fartknocker97]

everything fuckin cools down in act 2.............zzzzzzzzzzzzz

[BLEAHGames124365]

Robotnik launched 8 missiles, but only 4 touched down. What happened to the other 4?

[fartknocker97]

@BLEAHGames124365 They went and bombed Niagra Falls...

[Jvazquez50]

@BLEAHGames124365 Actually dude, all 8 hit. Each platform gets hit by 2 missiles if you keep watching.

[SuperMrBentley]

1:31-1:35 thats just epic

[StormySky7]

God-awful repetitive Eggman fight in this act.

[DejaBlue95]

I had this game for so long and I just noticed that was the Death egg and 1:32 o_o...damn

[AerobianAngel]

I'll say, Sonic 3K was the best Classic game for me, with Sonic 2 coming close. Lava Reef's boss was superb, it just felt, so cinematic to me... Newer Sonic games weren't doing it for me, until I played the latest one... Sonic Colors. That one is AWESOME, albeit not as great as Sonic 3.

Oh, Sonic Colors. How you remind of the days of old!

[2randomcrap3]

Oh.... losing the fire shield on the boss... that blows soooooo hard! Otherwise, your run was superb!

[JLRaider]

wow death egg just behind....1:19..

[Aturayd]

Best part is 1:30 when the Death Egg eyes turn on and reigninte the whole cavern.

[XxEncore187]

what would happen if you let that "cage" with all the animals hit the lava?

[MRMIdAS2k]

@XxEncore187

It never does, it hovers at a certain height.

[eddylugia]

Sonic 4 sucks this was the last 2D great sonic game. Sonic Colours is really good, I hope Sonic Team will create S4E2, fuck Dimps

[finalefate]

@eddylugia some say sonic generations classic sonic is sonic 4 part 2 XD

[supermax110]

@eddylugia They are! :D Its gonna be ALOT better than S4. Infact, they said it'll have a bigger budget, so either way, it will be better.

[Yiiiaaarrgh]

2:07 - 2:14  WIN

[jordanxsonic]

Anyone notice that the background at 0:54 is the exact same as Angel Island zone's background, with a different color?

[Xenthoid]

you're good

[SeitengrateZero]

Awesome videos, takes me back to those good old days, I still remember how amazing this series was for me when I was younger. Easy to see a lot of practice and dedication went into these runs, very enjoyable to watch.

[OmegaJoe7]

Ahhh man, at the time when I first played this part of the game when I saw the death egg just gonna fry everything with just a glare I was more afraid of that thing then of the death star. XD

[ppopping22]

i hate how the boss took a shitload of hits before he was defeated

[aequitas18]

sonic and knuckles by far the best sonic game!

[supersonicdrawer]

you make this level look easy

[DoWeKiteFaust]

@0:58

In all my years of playing S3&K, I never knew there was a special stage here...

[MrBreada]

1:23-1:30

[Guergy]

that is an awesome playthrough, I am good but not that good.

[skullapendra]

Oh yeah,Knuckles met a well deserved ass kicking after the end of this level.

[RayAndFlare]

That boss is nothing special, but the pre-boss scene with the Death Egg is one of the most heart pounding epic moments in the game the first time round!

[wmehar2]

just seeing the levels and shit that happens.. makes u remember how epic it is .. going thru al lthis hsit was pain, in the ass, but godamn epic poor sonic had to go thru all this shit hismelf

[MaidenFan24568]

The tune here isnt as appealing as in act 1

[darnkittydotcom]

@MaidenFan24568 No way, this tune is the best in the game!

[Hotrodx199]

And with the backround and the boss music, this level has some scaryness to it!

[Hotrodx199]

Why is the jumping sound different then others?

[MRMIdAS2k]

@Hotrodx199 HQ audio in GENS.

[travelsonic]

@MRMIdAS2k more specifically you have PSG [sine wave] enabled on top of the normal PSG channel, right?

[MRMIdAS2k]

@travelsonic

No idea, theres 2 HQ options, I just bunged 'em both on.

[Mustaine]

u have skills man!

[irismey]

Act 2 of this level can get annoying at times. But I like this level so far.

[Yeaster]

this was always my favorite stage of the game. i loved the song so much

[mattheweirk777]

My favorite sonic theme on this Act!!! Just priceless

[Leo07Sice]

0:39

[Wolfman12395]

If you have the fire shield, the boss for this level is INSANELY easy. :)

[Segaman19]

MrMidas2k, surely you must have thought what is the point of the Boss; he just basically commits suicide.

[MRMIdAS2k]

not really, it's hurting itself to try to hurt you.

[Segaman19]

Ah, yes. But, it's pretty much a waste of time really, they may as well have let sonic go Knuckles' route into the hidden-Palace.

Still, a Boss is a Boss.

[RayAndFlare]

I dunno, if you don't have good timing this boss can be a real pain...I would only say it's a waste of time if you stand back, watching the boss destroy it's self, rather than actually having to jump over the platforms dodging its attacks.

[Segaman19]

Although, when you have all the super-emeralds, it is fun just watching this Boss kill himself!!! :D

[pimppimpdoodlydoo]

wow. great level design!

[gemstone89]

Sonic At The Beginning:

Kiao Kan Attack!!!!! Lmfao

[Tekknight007]

NICE run.

[AxemJinx]

Hey, this is really impressive! I enjoyed watching.

[XBladenoJutsu]

wow beautiful run there. was this TASed? the way you spin makes it seem like it is.

[MRMIdAS2k]

Just quick fingers dude.

[XBladenoJutsu]

wow some real quick fingers o_o

anyways, yea great run.

[Kite197]

Kind of makes me wonder how many times you played through each level to memorize where every thing was...

[MRMIdAS2k]

too many fucking times.

I knew where everything was, it's just a case of getting the timing right.

[beerasaurus]

What's up with some of the sound Fx? The jumping sounds different then normal.

[MRMIdAS2k]

HQ audio in GENS.

[PsiCommando]

You're 2 rings for a life! :P

[hotcarl84]

I feel like i just got laid watching this! well played

[redrosefriendy]

Lol!

[Patriot18S]

The Seige at Lava Reef.

[Planetwatts]

No seriously dude, you hate hanging around I'm guessing. This is fantstic. Super fast. My hat is off to you

[xemnasishot]

damnit knuckles!!!

[KingdomHeart556]

those red rocks at the end were pretty cool.

[nzseries1]

you're good.

[FunkMastaMegaFlex]

that fire shield really helped out against that boss in the middle of the level there!

So many good times, from such as simple game!

[LilRedButton]

Wow, this level brings back memories. Also, imo, Sonic Adventure was the last good Sonic game. Fuck everything else.

[thestapler]

I agree, Sonic Adventure was the last good Sonic game..... but Sonic 3 & Knuckles was the last GREAT Sonic game

[FunkMastaMegaFlex]

true very true

Sonic III and Sonic and K. both had a lot of good music and good graphics for the time. This was also the last time we saw him in his original glory!

[lifeMac]

Ever played Sonic Rush and Sonic Rush Adventure? Original glory if you ask me!

[Invertedzero]

I don't think so - they're good but I actually prefer the Advance series - why does everyone forget about them? They had better gameplay mechanics than the rush series. I think they actually deserve a remake to see what they'd be like as a fullscreen genesis or higher quality graphics sonic game. The sonic games in 2d whilst not quite the same have maintained a good level of quality. I actually like *some* aspects of Sonic Unleashed and thought Sonic Adventure 1 was a great attempt back in 98!

[lifeMac]

I actually didn't like the Advance series much. I found the only good game to be Sonic Advance 1 and I still didn't really 'like' it

[lifeMac]

Wrong, Sonic and Knuckles was, :P

[idkzachidk]

ya sonic 3 and knuckles its a game look do sonic 3 and knuckles on youtube

[JayFoxFire]

@thestapler

SA1 and SA2 were the last good ones, until Sonic Unleashed came, which is pretty good too

[MerryChristmasJedi]

@thestapler Sonic Adventure sucked.....

[biosector07]

@thestapler you didnt like sonic adventure

[meusapi]

@thestapler Sonic Adventure 2 was also fucking great

[AdventCloudStrife]

You wasted a few precious second getting the lightening shield and extra rings right before the boss, but given that this was EPIC WIN! I have really no other critique to make. SUPERB run.

[MRMIdAS2k]

Not really, you've gotta wait for the platforms to land on the lava so that mucking about was to kill time until then and didn't const any time whatsoever.

[ShippoFoxDemons]

eh, i loved the old 2D sonics just the new ones taking place where humans are in stuff in 3D is really just seriously pointless. I think sonic should've stayed 2D because of how amazing the games were, Sonic Advance and all besides the new sonics were really good =) but theres one thing that doesnt keep the evidence running, How is the zones sometimes in Sonics world in the human world...? (crazy wtf.) Creepy. But anyways Nice run x) Kicked mines to the curb xD 5 stars always love the classics.

[FunkMastaMegaFlex]

They should make a 2-D sonic game, but with improved graphics and sound (of course the 16B music can stary forever). the only problem would be an actual point to the game.

[Rael0505]

Holy fucking crap. You're a demon with that fire shield, flibs.

[MRMIdAS2k]

Thing is, it's not my favourite shield.

I love me lightning shield, especialy when super/hyper :)

[SmashToPieces]

Yeah, I've noticed how awesome you are with that on the Death Egg Zone. :)

But yeah, you rule with the Fire Shield too. :)

[FunkMastaMegaFlex]

The lightning shield is the best weapon for lazy people in the game, I say this only because it is a great asset for collecting rings, and I will admit that double jump effect comes in real handy here and there. The water shield is kind of cool because it eliminates the constant hassle of shopping around the zones for oxygen bubbles. The star shield is nice but it is cheap since you practically become invincible.

[PurpleRosesofDeath]

I was playing this on my itouch earlier..It took forever to beat =/

[Ashenge]

Like how the Death Egg looks like it's staring at you the entire time...

[joel66666]

that was epicly intense

[bkchimera06]

1:22-1;29 Did knuckels put glue or something on that boulder, I mean I always wonder why the heck sonic got stuck to it? LOL

[MetalGearRaxis]

This part is much different. In act one it's obvious Eggman's just building there, but here he has a tighter hold on the area, judging from the increased amount of mechanical aspects. Also magma's almost non-existant here and there's gemstones around.

[MRMIdAS2k]

yeah, it's due to the lava cooling down as far as I can recall. thats why you've gotta go so far down to get to the boss in act 2, to get back to where it's hot.

[RDawg5555]

His name is Robotnik, not Eggman.

[MetalGearRaxis]

Are you serious? His name in japan has always been Eggman, and it hit these shores with Sonic Adventure, and he's been called Eggman ever since.

[RDawg5555]

I refuse to acknowldge him as Eggman, and so does anyone who is over 17 who isn't Japanese. The name change to Eggman and Shadow symbolize the downfall of Sonic.

[RDawg5555]

Plus at the time of this games release, he was known as Robotnik, and the people at Sega acknowledge Robotnik as his proper name (Ivo Robotnick), with Eggman being just a nickname.

[joel66666]

well said, couldnt have put it better

[MetalGearRaxis]

I'm 18 and American, so your argument falls flat on it's face.

I've played the series since the first game, Sonic 1, beat 2, raped all the secrets out of 3 and knuckles, beat CD while wondering why the future is so bleak because I was a kid and didn't bother to read the manual, and loved the adventure series and heroes.

Furthermore, your basically saying everything since Sonic 3 and Knuckles is all down hill, which most of the Sonic community will disagree with.

[RDawg5555]

I assure you if you ask anyone your age or older what they know him as, 9 out of 10 will say Robotnik. And yes the franchise has gone downhill since S3&K. The only Sonic titles which have slightly lived up to their names are the advanced titles. The 3-D titles have been no where near this good. People love Sonic because of his past games, not his current.

[MetalGearRaxis]

Your statement might be true, depending on who I ask and what recent games in the series they've played. And your other statements are matters of opinion, which are a dime a dozen anyway.

[PurpleRosesofDeath]

The Sonic Adventures were goo. What are you talking about..

[RDawg5555]

They certainly weren't bad, but they were not even in the same league as the 2-D Sonic games. The last great Sonic game was Sonic 3 and Knuckles.

[Aaronthegreatest]

@RDawg5555 I don't think the adventure titles were bad games at all--they were totally different than the 2D, which I think made some uh 'traditionalists' angry, but I liked them on their own merits.

[MRMIdAS2k]

with the exeption of sonic rush he's pretty much right.

Sonic adventure was cack, and the sequel wasn't much better.

Sonic heroes was genericly boring.

Shadow was craptastic.

And don't even get me started on the god awful shit-heap that was the XBOX 360 version.

[PurpleRosesofDeath]

Sonic Adventure was Cack? Not sure what you mean there but if you think they were bad then state why. It had everything a good 3-D Sonic game needed and has been placed in the top 5 Sonic games numerous times. Saying Sonic Adventure is bad is just like saying Kangaroos in Australia aren't trying to take over the world..which they are

[MRMIdAS2k]

Yes sonic adventure is bad, for numerous reasons.

The main one being it doesn't feel like a sonic game, everything seems too linear and set up, the camera isn't great, and seing the sonic world in 3D kinda ruins it.

It just doesn't click with me.

[PurpleRosesofDeath]

Your like..the only person who doesn't feel its a real Sonic game...wow

[MRMIdAS2k]

Oh trust me, there's more than me.

Sonic should ALWAYS be in 2D.

NEVER try and remake a classic franchise in 3D, cuz it'll go doen the pan. Take final Fight Streetwise as a prime example, or golden Axe. In fact, the only franchise to survive a proper 3D remake Is outrun, and thats because it's a driving game, and you're behind the car anyway.

[PurpleRosesofDeath]

Well I sine peeps do hate it. All 2 of you LoL

And Sonic used to be in the 2D realm but now its time for him to go 2.D like in Sonic Rush. 2-D games on next gen consoles don't work well. Do some research on Sonic Unleashed and tell me your opinion on that. Thats the newest Sonic game coming and its 2.5D

[MRMIdAS2k]

It SOUNDS alright, what with the gameplay being 2D, however, the proof of the pudding is in the playing, so I'm gonna reserve judgement until then.

[shalpp]

Hey stfu Robotnik was just an americanized name to make him sound scarier. Ill admit shadow sucked a huge one but Eggman has always been that fat orbular shaped evil geniuses name

[RDawg5555]

No its Robotnik. Koopa is also Bowser's Japanese name, and you don't see them changing the American name back to the Japanese version. Robotnik is "Eggman's" Americanized name and it should be kept that way. And I think its a safe bet that you didn't grow up with a genesis.

[shalpp]

I grew up with my friend's genesis

i never owned a sega

nor a snes

I guess they didnt change bowser back to koopa because we'd prolly confuse it with koopa troopa

[MRMIdAS2k]

The only time bowser is EVER called Koopa in an american game is on Sim City on the SNES.

In the US/UK Eggman is called Robotnik, THATS how he should stay unless you're actualy posting from Japan, and grew up using that name.

[Segaman19]

I grew up knowing Sonic's enemy as Robotnik, though the fact they've re-named him based on the japanese translation is just WRONG!!!!!!!

[LordYggdrasill]

Haha awesome speedrun! =D Seems like you really know this shit like the back of your hand!

[DarkMessiah6]

The easiest way is to manage to gather all the emeralds before the end of lava reef, then gather enough rings before the fight with robotnik. Go Super and stay there, watching him kill himself XD

[MRMIdAS2k]

Yeah, but i'm making a point of only using super/hyper sonic for one level......

I MAY do a supe run, but am put off slightly by the fact the world and his dog has done it already.......

[chum31]

if you didn have that fire shield it would of been harder

[tshirtjay]

Speedruns without tool assistance show true skill.Still a nice run.

[MRMIdAS2k]

This IS without assistance.

As I've said on other vids, there's several gigs of outtakes on my HD that'll back me up.

[thegrandwarrior]

I think tshirtjay meant no fire shields. Whatever, that was insane.

[thestapler]

When was a kid I used to be freaked out by the Death Egg practically staring at you during the first part of the boss fight.

[ChaosMissile]

With the fire shield you can walk on lava. What happens if, during the section prior to th boss battle, you continued wlaking straight through the lava instead of going up. Where would that lead you?

Nice run, btw.

[ChaosMissile]

Um...disregard myquestion about the alternate route. Just noticed that the stage is on auto-scroll.

[andrewfernandez105]

Yo! This stage is tight.

[icy201]

it takes that long 2 kill the boss??

[MRMIdAS2k]

yep, you can't hit him, you have to dodge his attacks until he dies.

[kirby3219]

actually, on the regular genesis version of this game, if you have the fire shield and about 100 rings, like you do here, then you can still hit the boss. It'd take careful aiming to dodge the spikes, though. But there is a way to hit him besides his own attacks.

[ChaosMissile]

How many hits DOES he take, this battle? It look more than the typical 8 hits.

[kirby3219]

10-12..  depends..

[MRMIdAS2k]

the guy has already accused me of cheating my sandopolis 2 run so i'm just not going to bother with him.

[Vlad788]

You should post this as a video response to SaibotBT's version of the same speed run, because you've done such a better job, lol.

[bonsayyeah]

Excellent.

Do you use an assisted tool or it's the original game ?

[MRMIdAS2k]

no, it's through GENS with a desktop recorder.

no slowdown, and the only savestates I use are the ones on the stage select screen and between acts.