Corus 2008 | reaction Short after winning by forfeit

[jjpeterson1]

these eastern bloc people have douche in the blood, I know, dealt with them.

[ChessDimension]

Wauw... forced handshake now - Yeah, that´s the way to go.

Never mind the fact that you can insult your opponent in a thousand ways.

Obviously we must all just love and obey the increasing bureaucratic web of rules... so that little flubby fat cry babies like Nigel Short can claim a victory on a personal grudge...

Welcome to the system of the New World Order in chess!! What´s next - forced labour North Korean style?

PS: Next time, I will make sure to crap in my hands before shaking :-)

[warblerab]

@ChessDimension how bout you just learn how to show good sportsmanship and how be a gentleman(or lady, whichever applies) instead? 

[ChessDimension]

@warblerab Funny you should ask, for I do show good sportsmanship. I´m all for that. It graces the game. What I am against is to be forced to smile, shake, bow or wear masks. This is not the former USSR. With all the dependency on bureaucratic rules it begins to look like it or even surpass it, I say. To put it another way: The way it is taken now, it only attracts nerds while really great independent minds steer clear from it. Can we blame them?

[mcpartridgeboy]

wow mr short skills on knowing the rules, i know we were talking in chessclub about rules and they are like yeah this one guy knows thenm all he is amazing, i dont know any rules, but i do think if your gonna be that rude you dont desrve to be playing chess !

[squathacker]

short ftw

[herpderpmonkey]

Why are they making such a big deal about a handshake? It's a shame to the game of chess that a technicality like that exists. Let the dickwad be a dickwad and punish the player in a way so that the game isn't compromised.

Did he REALLY have to go to an arbiter and complain about his opponent's rudeness?

[warblerab]

@herpderpmonkey just how would you suggest punishing the player? If the "dickwad" didn't want to lose on a technicality, he should have shook Short's hand.

[herpderpmonkey]

@warblerab Did you even read my comment? He can punish him IN the game. If a professional athlete isn't cordial to his opponent, you think it's mandatory to cause a forfeiture and deprive the audience of an awesome game? I swear, games have the most idiotic technicalities once institutionalized.

[TomValedro]

i've only seen bulgarian players refure a handshake.

[uchihadante77]

@TomValedro yeah,Topalov never shakes hands with Kramnik since their match in 2006 for the world championship:P

[warblerab]

@uchihadante77 I doubt Kramink wants to shake Topalov's hand either. Topalov is a jerk. He should be ashamed of himself accusing a player of cheating without evidence. 

[widebody123]

We need this rule in tennis. Serena scumbag Williams refused to shake the chair umpire's hand at the US Open after launching a tirade of abuse (not the first time).

Only in this case the low-class bitch should be kicked out of the sport forever.

[nicoeste8765]

cheparinov is a asshole as someone just said, a grand master should show a level of dignity it is an apropiate move to be polite

[KirillBeckham]

Cheparinov asshole

[Nickalispicalis]

You could drop your pants and offer someone the opportunity to shake your dick.

[ProLogikalTao]

He insulted his opponent, knowing the rule change and knowing his opponent would be too proud to shake his hand. Genius.

[wayneleon1000]

This rule should be applied in other sports/games too. Short did nothing wrong and should not be made to feel guilty about that.

[MaryJane3974]

@wayneleon1000 nobody made him feel guily, you idiot

[ltucker9]

I disagree with that rule. Thought in my opinion, It’s poor sportsmanship not to acknowledge an opponent with a friendly handshake, but I don’t think someone should be forced to do so.

[Ashish1985]

Cheparinov was like, I will play mind games by not shaking Short's hand and win the match. 2 mins later, Cheparinov has lost the match by forfeit, lol !!!!!

[xyxyirish]

Cheparinov isnt doing this out of disrespect for the game, he should not have been penalised he made his replying move, People seem to forget comments made by Short on players and games which were way out of line... surely that does more damage to the game than not shaking hands?

[albinbiino]

I think Mr. Nigel should have played the game and punish him over the board if he was so insulted, that would be better then calling arbiters and saying look look he does not want to shake my hand.

[Sataraa]

8 people wouldn't shake hands if they lose a game

[KnightOnE5Square]

@Sataraa WTF! Why don't you first of all learn something about this story before commenting! This is not a "bad loser" case,dumb ass

[AnthonyTheSage]

Winning by forfeit is weak..........Nigel should have manned up and beat him on the board.

[1934388206]

@AnthonyTheSage it was played again, he won.

[legi0nnaire]

Great Player!

[dreamcastII]

Shaking hands is important. I agree with Short

[pmanngw]

NIGEL SHORT YOU FUCKING LEGEND!!!

[Tomasovich15chess]

i met that beast and kasparov at the same day 06/06/2010

[allofyourdreams]

Watch the Danailov reaction to see the reason behing the no-shake of hand

[vladan1021]

Yeah, Short is no better than Danailov and Cheparinov.. Why make all this fuss? Just play the game

[manimajra1]

@vladan1021 Anyone supporting bad manners is an idiot.

P.S.- No offence intended

[rbass311]

Ummm..... If I remember correctly Short has always displayed the complete opposite of class. He's always being arrogant and mouthy.

[markronilo]

cheparin0v d0nt deserve t0 be A chess player... but i still d0nt judge him c0mpletely in pers0n... maybe he has just a big pr0blems like breaking with his gf heheheh!!! just 0ne thing is f0r sure... he d0nt deserve t0 be a chess player

[lostinidlewonder]

So if an opponent has no arms they can never play chess since they can't shake hands? What if you have a phobia of touching other people? Come on, shaking hands has nothing to do with any sport, if someone doesn't want to shake they don't have to, it adds to the drama!

[yisrael34]

Nigel Short is Right. Cheparinov deserves lost the game because he is not a fair player.

[andreaus8669]

rules are fucking rules

[pAbedaNSK]

pussy, anyone who disagrees short is a pussy is a pussy

[seagull1756]

he is so awfully awkward....

[ridewave444]

Short has class and integrity. Cheparinov again shows an example of mindless nationalism. Ignorant and childish.

[MyDecember2006]

excuse me? nigel short bragged about sleeping with tony mile's girlfriend right after the man died, hes been extremely arrogant and rude about a number of things and in my opinion shows very little class with a large number of subjects

[FrankaholiK]

Well said....the comment by ridewave444 is way off the mark. Class is something I have never associated with Nigel Short.

[bierbuik]

@ridewave444 Cheparinov acted like an idiot but Nigel Short does not have class and integrity, this video should have made that clear.

[Zelrio28]

@ridewave444 Any man that sleeps with another's wife and then mocks said another by revealing this only after he died has no class.

[KnightOnE5Square]

@Zelrio28 So what? Did he raped her?

[pacmandem]

@ridewave444 I'm totally with Short on this issue but you and the 23 who 'liked' this comment are totally wrong.

Short does not have class and integrity. I base this assertion on the fact that in Short's pre-match interview with Kasparov he childishly alludes to a nickname Kasparov earnt owing to his hirsuteness. And to top it off in another tournament he fucked a competitor's wife; hardly the actions of a man with "class and integrity".

[jbseven777]

I think Nigel is right

[kaziqta]

if you ask me... short was scared shitless not to continue the game :D

[RuudJH]

If you can't play by the rules, you should not play at all.

[kaziqta]

every real man would not leave but stay and play the game!!!

[sleepyeyeguy]

Real men recognize the norms of respect, and live by them.

[Pippin76]

From bulgaria, eh?

[skoootass]

he is idiot atacking with bad words topalov so what he expects what bulgarian will handshake?total idiot

[dallasgambit]

bulgarian players are the best if you take them out you hurt the game im sure he had a reason short is a snake and he talked some crap about bulgarians an ivan is right not to shake that snakes hand

[Vendrellus]

If Bulgaria is going to produce, lame, uncouth and stupid players like this Cheparinov, they should play by themselves in their own country.... so very happy for Short to win by default... and if these Bulgarians continue to be such blatant, fucking assholes... kick them out of the Federation...

[tihomirsky]

Short is a bitch who wants to win without playing - so what if he did not want to shake your hand - be a man - not a pussy !!! play the game - stop crying like a little beach!!!!! "oooh the Bulgarian did not shake my hand - so I win" --- pussy!!!

[DavidCaraig]

Nope they are not. Those 3 are simply uneducated!

[Vendrellus]

Well put, and not only that, too uncouth and too brazenly stupid to be let out in public.

[emouch1]

what is going on with these bulgarian characters like Topalev, Cheparinov and the Dainalov?? They accuse Kramnik of cheating, they don't shake hands, they act like bullies. Are they trying to turn the most noble of sports of chess to a WWF and football?

[wubbe]

I think Bobby Fischer did that already some time ago. They are certainly carrying on his psychological chess legacy, but it didn't pay off here.

[emouch1]

fisher did it because he was a bit crazy... and he also had the chess talent to pull that off, not that I agree with it. It was the yankee mentality "I am da best outa dere" that he was bringing, but he was an eccentric genius. Those bulgarian characters are doing it trying to be baddasses and abnoxious

[AlexisMontan]

Mr.Short is one of the last gentlemen of the chessboard,on the other hand, there are a lot of poor bastards as Cheparinov around

[CaptainCologne]

The guy got what he deserved. The last thing we need is people defending the jerk who wouldn't shake hands.

[Unknowboy1]

Lol @ all the comments on this page.

hey hey. if ne1 is reading this. 6T

[slaviKn17]

short is a bitch.

[NimrodVortex]

Not shaking hands is fucking childish, no matter how much of a penis the opponent may be. I though Short handled it well. Chep just comes across like a little boy.

[StrokaviMozak]

Maybe he just wanted to piss him off with that gesture... If thats the case then Id say its interesting...nevertheless,I would probably start a fight at the time he ignored my handshake second time...luckily Short has more nerves than I do,so he won..

[edtuason]

Players should always shake hands, it is a show of sportsmanship. It should be automatic, players shake hands before the first move is made. Some people will do that to ruin the other players concentration.

[johnnybrew1]

Short was absolutely right. I back him 100%.Cheparinov was extremely rude. I wonder if he'll do it again.

[orilux]

I'd rather receive a sincere refusal to shake hands, than a fake handshake . . . I'd rather be a man, get over it, and play the game, than to run to the arbiters, like a little girl, and insist that my oponent should forfeit because of an obscure technicality.

An insult is when you accuse someone of a crime in their absence and without any evidence. A calculated insult is when you call another man a cheater from the pages of a magazine.

[mtp15481]

why r english GMs so obsessed with rules instead of playing straight-forward chess???..Short is going down n down n now he tries to 'elevate' himself with this kind of stupidity. Shame on Short.

[ajmejooooj]

Don t wright about things that you don t know. Handshake is tradition in chess and every player would take that as an insult.Especially when a kid do this kind of stupid insult. Nigel is a great player and what he said about Topalov has nothing to do with Cheparinov. The kid just shown disrespect and stupid behavior to older person and chess world.

[mtp15481]

Short shud have apologised abt wht he had said regarding Topalov...n if this was a rebuke to him so be it...he is a really silly old fart, nothing else....u can keep on respecting this mediocre git.

[vibovitold]

are you implying then that Cheparinov refused to shake hands because of his desire to just sit and play "straight-forward chess"? :))) chess is very much psychology: what Cheparinov did was trying to make Short nervous hoping it would secure him a win. this is unethical and bad sportmanship. and that he attempted to win the game not on the board shows who really didn't want to just play chess. his loss is deserved and in long term beneficiary for chess fans, as it discourages such behaviour.

[mtp15481]

psychology is very less in a round-robin tourney. here the only reason Cheparinov didnt shake Short's hand was becoz Short had made some accusations against Topalov. U might b knowing that Chepa was Topa's second. This aint unethical. maybe tit for tat, nothing else.

[vibovitold]

Short didn't explicitly accuse Topalov, he mentioned his (and not only his) suspicions on the subject but he spoke very cautiously. but anyway this is an explanation I can accept - I just can't agree with the view that insisting on a hand-shake is being "rule obsessed".

[mtp15481]

the only thing is that the bulgarians felt bad; wanted to retaliate in some way and did the tit for tat. nothing more on this.

[Carabin33fr]

Why did he accuse topalov of cheating? And how the hell can you cheat in chess????????

[mmmcheese1]

theres loads of ways to cheat

[gazzawhite]

mmmcheese1 one is right, many ways: taking back moves (kasparov, Azmaiparashvili), getting assistance from computers (Naiditsch), co-conspiring with fellow countrymen to resign against you (Bu Xianghi), even fabricating games and sometimes entire tournaments. If the desire is there, people almost always seem to find a way.

[Dulkstantis]

He did the right thing... Dumbass chineese or smth :D

[volyahim]

Short ''suggested'' that Topalov had cheated during the World Championship in San Luis, Argentina.

His remarks were published in the Indian publication DNA.

I use the word suggested because Short was not concrete enough to be sued but was concrete enough to smear Topalov.

Indeed this was a typically sly English method of saying several things at once.

Neither Short or anyone else have ever substantiated these accusations.

[rampartible]

dat sucks

[acehimself]

Even afterwards, they made them replay the game and Short took that Bulgarian baby boy to school. Topalov, Danailov, Cheparinov, they are all the biggest bunch of whiners, they accuse people of cheating when Topalov has more suspicion against himself of doing so than anyone. They're the worst group in chess today.

[KhazModan]

Not shaking hands it low, petty and unsportsmanly. Chep needs to get a life and stop being a twat.

[irresistablejewel]

I think the rule should read: You must shake your opponants hand or, neck, before the game.

[Robster543210]

I think he did the right thing

[volokitin]

You're just an idiot

[Carabin33fr]

Trust me, he did not want to win like that... He was insulted. What would you do? He can beat cheparinov blind folded.

[chessgames]

good for nigel for staying more informed than his opponent then taking legal advantage of it!. i have seen & heard club player that directed a terrible verbal racial insult just to put him down & better his chances of winning, and they both compete in similar circles!,, so does that mean that next time they meet that player B has to absolutly extend his hand to player A who is still ok with what he said ???! or lose the game without being given a chance to lose it on merit??? VERY NOSY RULE

[jubangas]

hmmm... does anyone else ever have the need to just hit someone in the face? what a douche!

[chessgames]

one could do that and even go TO jail in north america no matter how terrible the insult WAS because of the bloody lawS and who struck first garbage , player B COULD NOT AFFORD GOING TO JAIL AND ALSO RISK GETTING BANNED FROM THAT CHESS FEDERATION FOR STRIKING A WELL KNOWN MASTER , HE SIMPLY DID NOT WANT TO be BANNED FROM TOURNAMENTS AND COMPLAINT TO THE DIRECTOR TO KICK THE MASTER OUT OF THE TOURNAMENT ,BUT HE SAID HE COUL`NT HEAR WHAT WAS SAID .

[GoldeWC]

i think short is a nice guy!

[centercounter]

Cheparinov apparently knew enough about the rule to know he could not be forfeited until he refused the arbiter's request. So, this was clearly a calculated insult. Unfortunately, the rules are what they are, and a player is not penalized for this behavior unless he disobey's the arbiter's order to comply.

Short won the game on the board, which was the greater victory.

[Nanosempai]

Shaking hands is only a nice polite thing to do before the game and should remain optional. Chess is already complicated enough, why would anybody be paying attention what could possibly be a "calculated insult"?

[GregJ22]

You're right it's a complicated situation. On one hand it looks like Short is just looking for an excuse to put the Bulgarian camp in an even worse light, handshake or not, it doesn't seem like a big deal.

And then on the other hand I looked at the footage of the incident Short looked pretty frustrated by the way he was blatantly ignored. Just do the damn handshake,and have a friendlier match. I've tried myself sitting 4 hours in front of someone I was on bad terms with, it's not recommended.

[Nanosempai]

If he is really that upset he did not get his handshake then he should be the one to forfeit.

[amadeussalzburg]

so you all think shorts a nice guy then?

[duhCider]

Have any of you seen the footage of the boxer who walked to the center of the ring after the opening bell for round one sounded, extended his glove to his opponent, and then proceeded to receive a devastating knockout punch to the head? Maybe Ivan saw that match. But, in chess, it works the other way 'round.

[slipknotsoadown]

half you dumbasses cant even spell... im glad he got DQ'd for being unsportsmanlike

[asiakozaczek]

nigel short wins with a very short game.

[feversa]

:D hahahaha

[datingmyselff]

hahahaha pussy !

[BraikoT]

Guys guys ... you are so foolish. I see you are still thinking in a communist vs anticommunist fashion. First of all - Kramnik started all this and everyone said "Yeah, he's guilty". And after Kramnik was defender by couple of british and us chess players now everybody says "Oh, Topalov is awful, why are they acting like this".

Of course they will - Topalov is No.1

[feversa]

Pls don't acuse Cheparinov.The only person responsable for this nonsense is Silvio Danailov.He ruined the reputation of Topalov and now wants to do the same with Cheparinov.

[LaisPimentel16]

Uou! Vida longa ao Mestre Loek Van Wely!

[slappy1234567]

What------a-------freak.

[amakur]

what a looser

[chessdrummer]

Nigel was actually incorrect in his citing of the rule.

[ongyj]

Well, Short won on the replayed game anyway...

[ceasarby]

So, after that 2faced attitude bulgarians decided to ignore him as a person., but since Cheparinov had to play with him, he decided not to shake hand, only if he forced to do it by the refs, because how can you shake hand of someone who's moral and etique is like that and who betraded you in public.

End of story.

[ceasarby]

(Everybody would be happy to be a Topalov's lucky charm back there, 'cause he played damn good!). Year later Short was participating actively in campaign against Topalov and said in the interview that he noticed something wrong in Danailov's behavior already in San-Luis.

[rayparktoaddm]

this guy is a GOOFBALL, whatever though, id like to watch pro chess i bet its nuts, its so much fun to play gg

[ToyRifle]

No, really?...REALLY!?! hahaha. Good luck with that.

[RichardLong]

Why didnt you describe the nature of your remarks towards Topalov and Cheparinov, u faggot-looking English cunt?

[Rembrantai]

His comments we're perfectly legitimate you retarded yank scum

[tran5990]

Look at your own comments first. You must then be a faggot-looking dumbass?

[bornwithanattitude]

The game was replayed today after Cheparinov applogized in public. And the game was won by Short in a convincing way. Nice finish.

[CaseysBrother]

I've had about enough lip from Mr Short.

[xXxWilliExXx]

Cheparinov is obviously behaving like an insolent little shit and should be punished accordingly.

[max31416]

Chess is a civilized sport. Apparently Mr. Cheparinov is not up to the standard.

[canagligana]

- Mr.Short whats happen today?

- Well all you know i'm gey. I trying to shake my hand with mr. Cheparinov (Chep in bulgarian slang mean huge c(o)ock) but my hands some how go over his chep. I was trying for second time to shake mr. Chep again but but i cant control my self and again my hand go over mr. Chaperinov chep...

[cubefreak93]

i support short.

[shaynehunter]

anther reason why Danailov, should be banned.

[cage2004]

the rescheduled match is gonna be very interesting

[victorcoruja]

The scene talks for itself. That was very disgusting.

[ceasarby]

"I claimed a point" - is not a honorable and manly behavior. Such 2faced players are not deserving the recognition, also his game is not at the top right now and probably never be. First he dumped the shitloads of crap on Topalov and his manager and surprised?

[joobree75]

Topa himself shaked hands with Kramnik,so what was Chepa's problem?He got what he deserved for his childish behaver and then he changed his mind when he was told the rule.Well, too late.

If he could get away with it, I would do that in every game to p*s off my opponents. Another nice Bulgarian promotion of chess

[chessdrummer]

I agree that it is poor etiquette, but no one is discussing why Cheparinov refused.

[Cuivier]

irrelevant.

[bumblebee1607]

Danailov and his players must be banned for life... That's it

[DarkOneRRp]

Cheparinov later said he would shake hands after talking to the arbiter. Then, it was *Short* refusing it and just taking the point. Somewhat hypocritical by Short, especially since the rules state that the rules state the game is forfeited if he still refuses after the arbiter asks him to.

[Chesselminster]

but the offence to short happend...it would be a shame if the arbiter has to control shake hands.

[DarkOneRRp]

Of course that's true.

But you shouldn't forget that Short hasn't exactly been nice to the bulgarian camp (including cheparinov) Don't you think his words were insulting? I recall that the bulgarian camp make an official complaint towards Short's behaviour in writing columns and FIDE said they were right in doing so.

I'm not condoning (spelling?) what Cheparinov did, but Short isn't a saint in this aspect.

[p1q0]

This is a good thing. Topalov-Cheparinov-Danailov are a pack of *ssholes. The sport will be better off without them. Hopefully they will never shake hands again.

[IkbenAlphastar]

I hope Danailov, Topalov and all their cronies etc will get a lifetime ban from chess.

[ScorpioGuy17]

I'm pretty sure it wasn't Cheparinov's decision to refuse to shake hands. Probably -- like Nigel implied -- it was a collective decision and I'm thinking Danailov was the main influence.

[gremista]

rules exist to be applied. and why wouldn't cheparinov shake hands with nigel?

[huntchess]

It looks like Gump had a fat lip on the video - presumably given to him - with justification - by Chep. Whilst recognising that chess should remain polite at all times I feel sure that there must have been a less draconian solution. Presumably Darrell Hair was the arbiter!

[mayadhiisa]

Great action by Nigel. Even if in the end the arbiters will have to correct their decision, it is good to point out that this behaviour can't be tolerated. In every sport, the greeting comes first. Chess, once even considered "a gentlements sport" is not different from that.

[ceasarby]

He worse. Short smiling and seem very happy by the point won this way. I very doubt if he can win it in a fair game against Cheparinov.

[unikum71]

I agree. Shamfull behavior

[sebaf74]

Really disgraceful attitude by Cheparinov. This Topalov-Cheparinov-Danailov group has been behaving in a way that is not good for chess. I hope FIDE does something about it at some point.