You get recommendations from family.. and friends.. then from those people.. your never REALLY meeting strangers.. Forever guarantee.. Made in USA.. I would buy it.
@ryutoki He asked me do you even know what an asset is? Doese he know what an asshole is i mean asseet, you probably never seen a 20,000$ let alone 10,000$ in your bank acount ever if you even are aloud to open an account and before you start asking questions ask yourself why you get up in the morning!
@vcrm1 And does she get them sharpened by a professional on a regular basis, or have they never been sharpened once in that entire 50 year period? Cuz' if they've never been taken to a professional sharpener, then I can guarantee you that they can't cut worth crap, and she's making her job of cooking much more difficult than it needs to be by using terrible knives.
@killumashotti It's a scam. I worked there for a couple weeks before I quit. You can make money, yes, but that's only if you're willing to lose every friend you have. They make you sell to your friends. DON'T DO IT.
@jonesfamilyphoto Actually no, they don't make you sell to your friends. You're supposed to sell to married homeowners over the age of 30 (they call these people HM3s). So unless all of your friends are married, own a home, and are over the age of 30, you shouldn't be selling to them.
@jonesfamilyphoto But even if you do try to sell to your friends, they're not going stop being your friend just because you gave them a sales pitch. You're drastically over-estimating their hypothetical reaction. At worst they might be slightly annoyed with you, but they're not going to stop being your friend over something so petty.
@jonesfamilyphoto Heck, I actually gave a CUTCO sales pitch to one of my best friends. He told me beforehand that he wasn't going to buy anything, but I just told him that it didn't matter because I got paid $15 just to give a presentation, regardless of whether or not he bought anything. And true to his word, he didn't buy anything, but he was perfectly happy to help me earn a little money. You know why? Because he was my friend! Friends do that kind of thing for each other.
@killumashotti Actually, you don't see the truth. All you saw in this video was an ignorant kid who doesn't understand how sales jobs work complaining about a job he never actually did. If someone never actually worked for a company, then you can't trust their opinion on what working for that company is like.
Global knives are the highest rated knives in the world, and they are indeed from Japan. They are also cheaper than Cutco. To see one of many independent studies done, search "Chef Knife Comparison" in Google and click on the article from CookingForEngineers (1st non sponsored link). It does side by side tests of the top 8 or 9 brands out there. Note Cutco's rating compared to competitors. Cutco may sell more than any other brand, but that certainly does not make them the highest in quality.
@Mr3dPHD The opinion of one critic is not the entire world. That's the thing you've got to remember about reviews: they're all based on opinion. Sure, a critic can say that any one particular brand of knives is the best in the world IN HIS OWN OPINION, but that doesn't necessarily mean anyone else is going to agree.
haha you're fucking retarded. number one selling cutlery in the world. in 2010 we sold 257 million dollars when our number one competitor (Henkels) sold just under 45 million.. sounds like a pretty damn successful scam.
Many years ago went to the training I think the guys doing the training are really getting bread cause the sell a set to multiple groups a day. They also kinda brain wash you as the drill you with the training. I was convinced that they were the best thing ever but I didn't have the 150 for the starter set. About few days later I realized I just felt how they wanted and that knifes were not the greatest thing on the planet
How much did you sell? You do realize that when you're first staring out, you only get a commission of 10%, right? That means if you sold $100 worth of knives on your first pay period, then you would naturally only get $10 commission. And selling $270 worth of knives would likewise only net you a $27 commission.
You can increase the percentage of your commission over time, but you have to keep selling.
This guy is so right! He is just saying that Vector is smart in using HS school kids who are most likely just sell to their parents and then find out that they suck at selling and quit. However, the FEW good ones make a killing. I bought one from a student in a TaeKwonDo class, and they are super awesome knives. But seriously, Japanese do make the best knives. Their knife and sword technique were literally perfected hundreds of years ago and does not get any better. But I still prefer the Wustof
Had to stop this around 3 minutes, cant stand listening to you. You say you DID your research????? You get the numbers from your family members and call them to set up a POSSIBLE appointment, Ive been sellin for 3 days now made $1200 in commissions got a whole bunch of free shit, and a whole list of contacts
The fact that CUTCO is #1 in North American in Kitchen Cutlery is irrefutable. The fact that there are hundreds of reps across North America that have made 10, 20, 30, 40 THOUSAND dollars a year from selling CUTCO is also irrefutable. How could a company with 17 million customers be a scam? I can show you picture from Scotland, Hawaii, Toronto, Whistler, Calgary, Montreal (many more) that I have gone to for FREE or a huge discount because of Vector Marketing.
i made $7,000 in 4 months, and I'm 19. it"s not a lie. Your opinion of an opportunity VECTOR clearly was wrong in offering you will NEVER be important or significant enough to warrant you bashing a company that has been around for longer than your parents, and ATTEMPTING to prevent people "suffering" from this job. IT IS A JOB PEOPLE. If you don't succeed, don't blame it on us at VECTOR. Take responsibility for your lack of effort, and go work at McDonald's or Sonic.
Oh, and another thing. A nice little perk about the guarantee we give, is that you can call our office and instead of sending in your knives to get sharpened we can come to your house and do it for you. For the record I live in Orlando. Good luck to anyone who wants to work there, maybe you'll have a good time maybe not. So far I personally have done well.
I work for a really good branch of this company. Some people seem to get employed by the more crooked ones, though. With our branch, I get $15 per appointment and you start out with 10% incentive (commission, whatever you'd like to call it).
We also have a program (again, this may be exclusive to the branch or office I work for) where you can trade in 4-5 junk knives and get $2-300 off a new set of Cutco. I lose money when I make that deal with someone, but it makes sales 10x easier.
My story: Worked with the company for about 4 months. Sold 2k in my first week. Got promoted to Assistant Manager a few weeks ago, which means I get 1% of new business office sales. But this job is definitely not about selling knives. You learn how to become a successful person in this company. You learn how to manage your time and think positively. The best part is deff the conferences and incentive trips. SO MUCH POSITIVE ENERGY! You have no idea what you are missing. NORTHEAST REGION! #1
The only reason people say Vector is a scam is because they look on the internet. They see that Vector is a scam, so they create their own videos about how it's a scam (using the internet as their main source of info). Then people who watch those videos quit training and post their own anti-Vector testimonials. It's a self-perpetuating anti-Vector movement. Kinda weird, because the company is not a scam at all.
Cutco knives are the cheapest of the high-quality knives, made from just 440A steel. Reps just gloss it over. Sales is a numbers game. The world is cruel, people use people to improve themselves. Now if you see yourself as a good-natured angel who would rather get poor than to use acquaintances to your advantage, it's up to you. My point is, the Cutco approach to sales is just the typical sales pitch. Evil and nothing special. But you gotta do what you gotta do for the big bucks.
@RrisenVideos Sorry. Cutco's 440A steel is not the highest grade. I assume you're a sales rep, cuz thats exactly the line at the end of page 5, before the rope-cutting demo. Anyway, Shun's VG-10 has vanadium in it, which makes it get a really sharp edge. 440A is sharp, but the only advantage to VG-10 is that it's shinier. And housewives love shiny stuff. I'd agree though that what sets Cutco apart is the guarantee. 440A is the Fisher-Price of high-end steel.
@RrisenVideos One more thing, don't get me wrong, I'm currently workin for Vector, and my verdict? Cutco is great because of the guarantee. Also, 440A is acceptable if you're not really into serious research on the kind of steel you use to chop food (I just want to slice tomatoes, do I care if the blade's S30V or VG-10 or 440A?). Cutco is "great" because people buy it as long as its shiny and it can function like a katana to slice whole pineapples in half.
@TheDonutx 440A is not the highest grade, but if you think about it, it's the best choice for the company. It's easy to sharpen and it's more resistant to rusting/corrosion. If it needs sharpening, the factory can do it with ease and precision. And 440A is, yes, the fisher price version of steel only if the company doesn't treat it properly. Cutco's heat treatment process and overall knife design is unparalleled in my opinion. With the DDedge, the blade doesnt even touch the cutting board.
And seeing these comments where people swear by the life time warranty you might want to read into it. If the knife breaks you can buy another - for half price. Along with some other rules, go read them.
Thank you! My friend is in love with this "new job" she has, but I told her they were a scam. But nooooo. Won't listen to me. I give it 6 months...maybe 4.
You can make your own money by selling the cutco knives, but the vector company does NOT pay you $16 an hour for all of the hard, selling/distributing work the employeee has been doing. The sixteen bucks an hour thing is a big lie. Not only that, but what job requires you to give out over 100 personal information of other people? Phone numbers that is...
you are pretty much right dude. oh and i did buy a sig. set from my nephew lol but i must say they are great knifes and i would buy them again. for those of you looking to do this program i would recommend you have good ppl skills. Research your product and learn everything about it, for the simple fact you don't want to have to keep looking at the paper to tell ppl about the product, this makes it seem as if you have little knowledge about the product your selling. so good luck!
you are pretty much right dude. oh and i did buy a sig. set from my nephew lol but i must say they are great knifes and i would buy them again. for those of you looking to do this program i would recommend you have good ppl skills. Research your product and learn everything about it, for the simple fact you don't want to have to keep looking at the paper to tell ppl about the product, this makes it seem as if you have little knowledge about the product your selling. so good luck!
@superdupergavina Vector/Cutco In my eyes bro Is a complete ripoff. I did work for them and yes I was an amazing sales rep. And guess what happend? They jail rapped me. I only got two pay checks and those were shit. Of course Germany has the best knives it's fucking Germany. All Cuto/Vector is, is a complete waste of time. Go to wal-mart or lowes they actually pay you.
@Dieuntotenfilms1 How many appointments did you do? Did you get any sales? If you only did a handful of appointments and didn't get many sales, then naturally your paychecks would be low. That's the thing with sales jobs: you get paid on commission. Don't make sales, and you don't make commission, and your paychecks will look like crap. Don't blame the company for your inability as a salesman.
@ryutoki I guess you don't know how to read. I did say in my comment that I was a Great salesman. I had enough sales where I should have gotten more cash.
@Dieuntotenfilms1 So you're saying they weren't paying you for some of your sales? Or was the commission simply not enough? Cuz' there's a distinct difference between those two scenarios.
@Dieuntotenfilms1 Were you submitting your sales properly through the Rep Online Order form (ROLO)? Cuz' if you weren't properly submitting your sales reports, then it's possible they may have gotten lost somewhere along the way.
@ryutoki You are not being pragmatic.You could be the greatest salesman ever...that does'nt mean you're going to sell anything. First of all good luck with setting up an appointment to waste an hour of a day for a customer. If a customer does not want to buy a bunch of overpriced knives, they will NOT buy them period no matter how good the sales pitch is. You can go to Target and buy much less expenive knives that serve their purpose.
@vcrm1 Actually, only 10% of the people you see are guaranteed to not buy from you no matter what. 20% will buy even if you have the worst sales pitch in the world, and 70% depends on you and how good your sales pitch is. So yeah, you're not going to sell everyone all the time, but a vast majority of your sales will in fact hinge on your ability to be persuasive. It's the same with any sales job.
@ryutoki Reliable source for your facts? Don't tell me Vector. Get real, 70% are NOT going to shell out $500.00 BECAUSE of your sales pitch..NO ONE is going to even allow you to even go to their house and waste an hour of their busy schedule if they already made up their minds...besides it would sound creepy/scary to a housewife if you called her and said you wanted to show her some knives.
@vcrm1 That's the statistics for selling any product with any company.
10% never buy.
20% always buy.
70% depends on you.
Like I said, that isn't just Vector/Cutco, it's EVERY company that does sales. That's how sales work.
And yes, people DO let you in their house. It may sound strange, but it does happen. And even if someone has already made up their mind, you CAN change their mind if you're persuasive enough. That's what being a good salesman is all about.
@ryutoki Again where are your reliable sources? Do your stats still apply if your selling hundred dollar mothballs? I personally would not allow/trust anyone in my house if they called me and wanted to a knife demo.
@vcrm1 Maybe YOU wouldn't let anyone in your house, but there are plenty of other people who would. The fact that CUTCO sells so many knives is proof enough of that.
@ryutoki Believe me, most sane people/housewives would get freaked out if they received a call from a stranger who wanted to go over their house and show them a bunch of knives.
@vcrm1 Yeah, that's why people who sell Cutco are taught to sell to relatives and neighbors. They don't sell to total strangers. There's almost always a connection of some kind.
@vcrm1 Well you're actually supposed to get references from the people you sell to. Even if you just give someone a presentation and they don't buy anything, you still get references from them of people who might buy.
So even if you don't directly know the person yourself, you'll know someone they do know, and that connection will help establish trust. This is especially true when the person who referred them calls them first, which is another technique that CUTCO sales reps use.
@ryutoki oh that makes sense....so someone will take comfort in knowing that im her friend's friend's cousin's, friend's cousin. Sounds like a stranger to me.
@vcrm1 You don't tell them whole chain, you just tell them the one person who referred them to you. And yes, if their neighbor already talked to them about you (which they should have if you're doing it right), then yes, they will be perfectly comfortable talking to you. It's called establishing rapport, and yes, you can do it with anyone, even people who you've just met.
@7StarsFromTheMoOn That's why you get referrals from the people you sell to. If you get just five referrals from every presentation, giving just three presentations would net you 15 more people you could call. And then if you get five referrals from each of those people, you'd have 75 more people you could call. Really, you don't ever run out of people to call if you do it like they train you to.
@vcrm1 Honestly, if you think people's minds can't be changed, then you'd make a terrible salesman. A good salesman CAN persuade people to buy a product they hadn't initially planned on buying if he can make the product seem valuable enough. Seriously, go learn how to sell before you start making ignorant claims about what does and doesn't work in sales.
@ryutoki you are completely WRONG... if you don't want to purchase something you will NOT purchase it unless you have a gun at your head. Again,honestly ,where is the practicality in shelling out $500.00 for a set of knives, when you can purchase a cheaper set at Target? If youv'e studied economics, people will opt for the cheaper set unless you are a knife collecter or an idiot.
@vcrm1 So are you a salesman? Have you ever tried to sell anything? I'm guessing not, because you incorrectly assume that people can't be persuaded to buy something. Seriously, go learn how to sell before you start saying stupid things like "It's impossible to persuade people to buy things." It's not impossible. A good salesman persuades people to buy things all the time.
And if a person cooks a lot, they'd generally prefer to have a quality set of cutlery, rather than something cheap.
@ryutoki OK if I called you and wanted to come over your house to sell you a scissor set for $500.00...would you even allow me to make that appointment? And don't lie and say yes. You would say no because most people have no use for an expensive scissor set. The same thing applies to these knives.
@vcrm1 If you called? No, you're a jackass. I wouldn't let a jackass in my house. But if a close friend or relative asked, then sure, I'd be willing to listen to them. I probably wouldn't buy because I have no use for a set of scissors, but I'm sure someone who did a lot of quilting or some other type of craft that needed various kinds of scissors might be interested.
@ryutoki so you're resorting to name calling...how convenient for someone who has lost an argument. You still haven't answered my question..Why would someone buy a $500.00 knife set when they can purchase a SIGNIFICANTLY less expensive knife set that would last a lifetime somewhere else?
@vcrm1 Also, there's a very important fact you're completely overlooking, which is that products which are not profitable do not stay on the market.
CUTCO is still on the market today, and has been since 1949. That means CUTCO has been around for over 62 years! The fact that these knives have been around so long is irrefutable proof that people ARE buying them! If people weren't buying them, the company would have gone out of business long ago. Seriously, use your brain here.
@ryutoki if its so successful, why is the only factory in Olean New York, why are their local offices holes in the wall with 2 "employees", why don't they offer BENEFITS, and company cars? Why do they make it so easy for morons to get hired and ask for a list of 10 people who need a job plus their numbers? If you're so smart why aren't you working for a more prestigious / successful company like Microsoft or Google? You'll be an 80 year old bum with NO social security income.
@vcrm1 Cutco sells $200,000,000 (that's two-hundred million dollars) worth of knives every year. If a single factory can produce that many knives, why would they need to have more than one factory? Adding more factories just seems like it would add an unnecessary expense to the company's budget.
Same goes for the the offices they have. If a small office with two managers is all they need to get the job done, why would they use any more? A good, efficient company keeps its expenses low.
@ryutoki The fact of the matter is that if they only have 1 factory, 2 "employees "working" in a hole in a wall, make it so easy for idiots to get hired, do not provide company cars nor BENEFITS, and ask for 10 people who need a job plus their numbers makes it a poor company. They need to keep expenses low unlike far more successful companies like Microsoft or Google who employ hundreds of workers in their local branches and do provide benefits.
@vcrm1 Dude, you have the worst entitlement mentality I've ever seen. Not every company is going to give a free car to every single employee they hire, not even Microsoft or Google, especially not a company that typically hires teenagers and college kids. If you were to go get a job at McDonald's, they wouldn't give you a free car either, I guarantee it.
But I guess by your logic McDonald's must be a failure of a company since they don't give out free cars to their employees.
@ryutoki Well, i received my BA Degree in Accounting from UC Davis a few years back...And i currently work as a Cost Accountant. Yes i do get a secure/reliable hourly income. and currently make 35k a year with a 401K, not to mention full health coverage. If you have a college degree from a major university, you definitley would not be working for Vector.
@ryutoki well i guess you can say owning my own condo, receiving a secure / reliable paycheck, not having to pay medical bills, and getting paid vacation time is also pathetic since your an idiot. Seriously dude, get a REAL job. i'd be 60 years old retired in the Bahamas, when your 95 year old man still going door to door trying to sell dumb knives.
@vcrm1 Sales IS a real job, dumbfuck. Jobs where you get paid by the hour are a waste of time, and they drain your life away. It's better to get paid according to your effort, because then you can determine your own paycheck, rather than having your paycheck determined by the company. The only kind of job where that's possible is a sales job.
And for those who have mastered the art of selling, their lifetime income will be exponentially greater than that of anyone who works by the hour.
@vcrm1 Also, I can guarantee you that you won't be retiring in the Bahamas if you're working as an employee, regardless of what company you work for. Unless you don't mind living in poverty during your retirement in the Bahamas, but your tone seemed to imply that you thought you would retire in luxury.
Sorry to tell you, but that doesn't happen as an employee. The only way to afford that is to master the art of selling. If your job pays by the hour, you'll never get rich from it. Ever.
@vcrm1 Also, there are plenty of college graduates who work for Vector Marketing. It's a great place to work if you want to learn how to sell, since selling is a skill that isn't taught in any college or university.
For example, there's James Blackburn, who didn't work for Vector until after he received his BA, and now he's earning a six figure income because of the skills he learned working for Vector.
@ryutoki sales jobs are for losers/idiots who don't have an education or a brain....maybe like you. That is why they are NOT taught in Universities. why do you think vector hires just about evey moron?. why do they ask on their mickey mouse applications for a list of 10 people who need a job plus their numbers? why do they ask you for your hobbies???? why do they try to lure you through their misleading ads and make it so easy to get an interview? Get a REAL job dude.
@vcrm1 Sales jobs are for idiots? Okay, now I KNOW you're stupid. I mean, I knew that already, but this just confirms it all the more.
The richest people in the world are all salesmen. All of them. You cannot become rich without mastering the art of selling.
Schools don't teach people how to sell because the entire education system is designed to turn people into employees. To become rich, you need to be a business owner, which is something you can't do if you can't sell.
@vcrm1 Or maybe someone would work for Vector because they understand just how incredibly valuable a skill being able to sell is. If you can't sell, you'll spend your entire life never getting the things you want most, regardless of how hard you work.
@vcrm1 Also, Microsoft and Google are software development companies. Vector is a marketing and sales company. Software development requires huge teams; sales does not.
The companies perform totally different functions, so it's only natural that they're going to have totally different numbers of personnel in their offices.
Seriously, do you ever go into a McDonalds and wonder why they only have like five people working in the restaurant at any given time? Because that's all they need!
@vcrm1 They have to do that so that people don't just come in for the training and then never sell anything. It's a perfectly understandable policy for a sales job.
@ryutoki Its simple....they can't provide paid training / HEALTH BENEFITS, and company cars because they can't afford it unlike more established and reputable companies. i will not spend $70.00 of my OWN cash a week on gas not to mention wear and tear on my OWN car trying to sell a bunch of overpriced knives to people who don't need them and who live MILES apart. If the company requires you to drive to peoples' homes, then I would expect it to provide a company car.
@vcrm1 Dude, company benefits are completely worthless. The only kind of benefits that anyone should care about are benefits they provide for themselves with their own assets and their own income.
And there is not a single sales company on the face of the earth that provides company cars for every single sales rep. None. Expecting employees to use their own cars is NOT something that's unique to Vector Marketing. Every single sales company on earth makes employees use their own cars.
@ryutoki "company benefits are completely worthless" ....you see company benefits are only provided by rich not poor companies. AND i take it you would gladly spend $500.00 a month on health insurance from your own pocket....spoken like a true idiot. AND if a sales company expects you to do a lot of traveling and if the company has a lot of money, i would expect them to provide company cars.
@vcrm1 If you expect a sales company to provide you with a company car, then your expectations are unreasonable. Seriously, have you EVER done sales even ONCE in your entire life? I'm guessing not, since you obviously have no fucking clue how sales even work.
You don't get your own fucking car just for being a sales rep. No sales company on earth provides that kind of luxury. Not one.
@vcrm1 How the hell would you know? You've never worked in sales! You even claimed that sales jobs are for idiots (which is an incredibly stupid thing to say, by the way).
There is not a single sales company on earth that gives out free cars to every single sales rep. Not one. No company does that. Not even the rich ones.
Seriously, go work in sales for a while and learn what the fuck you're talking about before you make yourself look any more ignorant than you already have.
@ryutoki once again, get a REAL job lazy moron. Sales don't require a BRAIN or college degree. Maybe that is why you like Vector so much. Why do you think Vector hires every idiot and makes it so easy to get an interview? Why do they ask on their job applications a list of ten people who need a job plus their numbers? Sales does NOT make people rich dumbass... INTELLIGENCE makes people rich... and you DEFINITELY DO NOT need intelligence to be a salesman.
@vcrm1 Oh btw way could you name credible sources for your 10% 30% 70% claim?Also, I currently make $35.00 an hour and yes my salary is performanced and seniority based PLUS i have health benefits which VEctor clearly does not provide because it s a piss poor company. It is a piss poor comapny because no one wants to buy OVERPRICED knives.
@vcrm1 Well sales may not require a college degree, but it certainly requires a brain. Seriously, you know absolutely nothing about sales. Sales is not easy. It's incredibly hard work to sell effectively. So for you to call me lazy only proves how completely and totally ignorant you are about how sales work. Honestly, you should go out and actually try it sometime. It's not easy. It takes a lot of hard work and effort to be effective at it.
@vcrm1 And yes, you DO need to be intelligent to be a salesman. You have to know how to handle objections and correctly explain all the advantages that your product has over the competition. That means you have to be intimately familiar every aspect of your product, down to the tiniest detail. Obtaining that level of familiarity takes practice, dedication, and study. It's a lot of hard work. You don't need a college education to do it, but that doesn't mean it's easy.
@vcrm1 And the reason Vector Marketing doesn't require a college degree of their applicants is because a college degree isn't necessary to be a successful salesman. But that sure as hell doesn't mean sales is easy. A job doesn't have to require a college degree to be difficult.
Did you know that you don't need a college degree to enlist in the Army, either? I guess that must mean being a soldier is a super easy job that requires no brains, since it doesn't require a college degree...
@vcrm1 Also, one last thing: your claim that intelligence makes people rich is only half right. While it is true that intelligence is one of the necessary components to become rich, intelligence alone is not enough. The fact that so many brilliant men live in poverty is proof enough of that.
In addition to intelligence, you also need to know how to be persuasive. An intelligent man who lacks the ability to persuade and influence people can never obtain great wealth.
@ryutoki OH btw could you name credible sources for your 10% 30% 70% claim? Also i currently make $35.00 an hour and yes my salary is performanced and seniority based PLUS i have health benefits which VEctor clearly does not provide becsause it is a piss poor company. It is a piss poor company because no one wants to buy a bunch of OVERPRICED knives.
@vcrm1 I would pay for my medical bills out money produced by my own assets. I wouldn't rely on so called "benefits" provided by a company or handouts from the government, because both of those are unreliable and likely won't cover all the costs if some unforeseen tragedy were to occur. Anyone who expects the government or their company to take care of them is a fool.
@vcrm1 Also, the gas is tax deductible, so you get the money back with your tax return anyway, so it doesn't matter.
Also, if you spend $5 on gas to get out to an appointment, and then you sell $1,000 worth of knives at that appointment, and you're earning a 50% commission, then you just earned $500. Spending $5 to earn $500 sounds like a great deal to me.
@vcrm1 Oh, and Social Security is completely worthless. The government lies to you and tells you they'll provide for you, but the truth is they really can't. There's just not enough money to go around. If you actually LOOK at the people who live off of Social Security, you'll notice that they're all incredibly poor and have no money. If you ask me, that's the REAL scam.
It's better to depend on your own income to support yourself, rather than to depend on the government.
@7StarsFromTheMoOn $750 a month adds up to only $9k a year. If your annual income is only $9k, then you're in the poverty level. So thanks for proving my point.
@ryutoki Depends on how you use your money dipshit! poverty doesnt just mean poor dumb ass poor is when you dont have any source of income or food and have no roof over your head. 9k a year is great for some people too bad thats not really what i make and sad you dont understand the definition of poor.I said i make 750 from ssi to see what ridiculous comment youd post your a waste of my time I probably make more in a day than you make in a life time
@7StarsFromTheMoOn Actually, you're the dipshit here, because according to the dictionary, the words "poor" and "poverty" mean exactly the same thing. They're synonyms. You know, two different words that mean the same thing? And no, you don't have to be homeless to be poor.
Also, if you didn't want me to believe that you only made $9k a year you wouldn't have said that you only got $750 a month. You can't blame me when you're the one who was being intentionally misleading.
@7StarsFromTheMoOn By the way, since you apparently make so much money, what kind of assets have you invested your money in? They must be pretty damn good assets if they can generate as much money in one day as I can make over the course of my entire life.
@vcrm1 I didn't say I didn't need retirement income, I just want my retirement to be paid for by my own assets rather than from the government's welfare programs. Seriously, go read any book about financial independence and wealth, and every single one of them will tell you the same thing: if you depend on the government or your company benefits for retirement, you will be poor and have no spare money. But if you fund your retirement yourself, you can multiply your income exponentially.
@vcrm1 Also, I'm not going to be selling knives my whole life. This is just a job I've got so that I can learn how how to sell. The ability to sell is one of the most valuable skills anyone can learn in their lives.
@ryutoki your're statement is misleading. Cutco is the top selling PREMIUM brand of cutlery in the US. How many other PREMIUM brands of cutlery are there in the US?What percentage of Americans are willing to by a set of knives let alone a set for $500.00?
@ryutoki My mother cooks all the time and has had her knives all her life and they will cut perfectly fine in another lifetime .Answer this...WHY would a person purchase a knife set for $500.00 when they could buy SIGNIFICANTLY less expensive knives that last a lifetime somehwere else?
@vcrm1 And sure, a set of $10 knives from Target may be able to do the job of cutting, but they won't do it AS WELL as Cutco knives will. Just like a Ford Pinto and a Ferrari both allow you to do the job of driving, but the Ferrari does it so much better.
@ryutoki Overwhelming majority of people are practical. Be realistic, spending $500.00 on a set of knives is NOT practical.....Why in the world would somone in their right mind waste $500.00 on a set of knives. Even if I were a millionare, i would not waste $500.00.
@vcrm1 People spend lots of money on expensive things all the time. And yes, that includes high quality knives. You're probably some teenage kid who doesn't understand just how much adults spend on a regular basis. (HINT: it's a lot more than a teenager or someone in their twenties spends.)
And given how CUTCO is the top selling brand of cutlery in the U.S., I think it's pretty safe to say that yes, people do spend $500 on a set of knives. It's perfectly practical if you cook a lot.
Cool ass white boy i had to give a negro clap (real loud) lol because i believed he sheds light on the whole "Vector" thing. Yo u smart! hit me up bro
vector is not a scam, you CAN be successful i tried it for a month and i made a couple sales...you can be successful if you really call 10 people a day, call your manager every morning and every night and text every bit of info to the demo check in line...you can be successful but its too much supervision for me i dont like to have them breathing down my neck every waking day of my life! id rather get paid minimum wage than the 15 dollars a demo with a 'round the clock overseer on my ass
hey guys, i just got employed by cutco. maybe op was right. but how does people not buying have anything to do with us employ getting appointment?
to me it doesn't matter if i don't get sales. i can even talk on the phone and say,
"hey, if i can have around 30 min of your time I will give you 7 bucks. you don't have to buy anything either"
and then this way i can get like 5 appointment a day and make ([19-7]*5)60 bucks. i don't have to let my parents buy them. i also gain real field experience
Sales is not for everyone...neither is pro football or becoming a surgeon. Stop your whining .The Vector Opportunity does work, if you work the program. I personally made $9,600 during my first 12 weeks with the company back in 1989. I was the envy of all my friends. They made fun of me for selling knives until the checks started rolling in. I still own and use my 3 Homemaker sets and the cookware. It is awesome and I owe much of my business success to the training I received at Vector.
@duckcommander66 Will you please tell me more about your experience working for Vector ?? I had my interview with them friday 9/2/11 and I start the "training" phase on thursday this week.... I hope you can get back to me before then. Im actually lookin for a good career and not something that might look good on my resume, so I just want to know what to expect.
@DrVegasIII My name is Christian. I'm a student at louisiana tech university. i'm 19 years old. I work for vector marketing. Anyone who has any questions can ask me right now! Its a real job with real money. Its better money than you're gonna make doing anything else. BTW, this guy isn't correct.
@musicmanstamps I am wondering why all the sales reps for the company are so young. Why if its such a great opportunity is it filled with young people in high school, or just in college?
@brandtbrian123 I have reps in my office as young as 17 and as old as late 50's. The oil field is very lucrative but women rarely take jobs there. It doesn't matter how good the money is, they feel like its not for them. Most people older than your average grad student don't feel like the can do it or refuse to. Also, they only promote internally. That means that if you have a masters, it wont help you get a better position. Lots of people have problems with that.
@brandtbrian123 Vector marketing says its to give younger people the opportunity to develop experience in sales and gain job experience period...plus they offer flexible hours, the only problem i have with Vector Marketing is you have call your manager between 7 and 9 in the morning and 7-9 at night so you have to plan your life around your job...you cant go out bcus you have appointments, you really dont have a chance to HAVE a life its like your a Vector slave
Also for the feferrels you call them they don't call you and most of the time the strangers you call want to help you out and they not only see you because it was their friends and family members you that referred them to you but they are excited to see the product because those friends and or family members loved it so much. And trust me, people buy big sets.
I also sold quite abit in my first 10 days. I only sold about 1.5k to family and after 10 days I had 9k in sales most of itto strangers and I've won some pretty cool prizes aswell. People will buy because they are the best knives out there. Japanese knives arethe best? That's like saying the only good hockey sticks are the ones made in Canada. I've beenworking for about 3 weeks now and have over 14k in sales,with no sales background prior to this. Soyou tell me if you think it was worth my time.
Bro... you don't no what you are talking about. I sold 2000 to family (parents, grandparents, aunts and uncles) but I also sold 4000. IN 10 DAYS. You should've gone to your interview because you are so ignorant and your "research" that you did must have been through forums. I haven't had to spend a dime on knives and I've made over a thousand bucks in less than two weeks, that's better than many people who have bachelor's degrees coming out of school. Get your facts straight.
i just signed up yesterday, so far im feelin this company, ive been told i can sell anything...i sold everything from candy to electronics independently for years while still in high school...and they offer investment options, you can do monthly payments, with free sharpening, forever garunteee, and if i tank at this then ill just set up about 15 appointments and get my money back and then quit....and if you dont succeed in this company its 100% your fault its not designed to fail
worked with vector marketing 14 years ago. was a new immigrant and this was the only thing at that time i could do without canadian experience, so i took the job. if you like the product and can sell it (and are not lazy), you can make money (i did!). no it's not a scam, you just have to plain work and be smart about setting up your appointments! after the summer, i made enough money to pay for some graphic design courses i wante to take! tip: sell to resaurant owners!
I sold Cutco over 20 years ago. It was one of the greatest training program in Sales I was every involved in. If you are worth your salt you can be successful. I am now the CEO of a company and am returning my Cutco knives today to have them sharpened after 20 years. I can't say a bad thing about Vector or Cutco. I still use training today that I got back then.
OHHHH HHEEEEELLLLLL NOOO!!! Cutco is the shiiitttt!!!! ;D My bro sold and made bank over the summer and sold me some badass shiiitttt!
songerboy96 3 days ago
You get recommendations from family.. and friends.. then from those people.. your never REALLY meeting strangers.. Forever guarantee.. Made in USA.. I would buy it.
tpunkyA7X 5 days ago
got an interview for tomorrow.. debating if i should just not go
ovyvyx 3 weeks ago
@ovyvyx did you? i hope u did
empatheticalpieces 2 weeks ago
This is a really good explanation that shows a more realistic view of it. Its the same way I see it. This recession is killing us all.
jesusfreak279608 3 weeks ago
Rather work for Avon than vector. Lol
broseph52 3 weeks ago
I'm not going to argue with such an idiot
7StarsFromTheMoOn 4 weeks ago
@ryutoki He asked me do you even know what an asset is? Doese he know what an asshole is i mean asseet, you probably never seen a 20,000$ let alone 10,000$ in your bank acount ever if you even are aloud to open an account and before you start asking questions ask yourself why you get up in the morning!
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@vcrm1 And does she get them sharpened by a professional on a regular basis, or have they never been sharpened once in that entire 50 year period? Cuz' if they've never been taken to a professional sharpener, then I can guarantee you that they can't cut worth crap, and she's making her job of cooking much more difficult than it needs to be by using terrible knives.
ryutoki 4 weeks ago
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ryutoki 4 weeks ago
thanks for clearing it up for me, i had an interview tommorow, now i see the truth
killumashotti 1 month ago
@killumashotti It's a scam. I worked there for a couple weeks before I quit. You can make money, yes, but that's only if you're willing to lose every friend you have. They make you sell to your friends. DON'T DO IT.
jonesfamilyphoto 1 month ago
@jonesfamilyphoto Actually no, they don't make you sell to your friends. You're supposed to sell to married homeowners over the age of 30 (they call these people HM3s). So unless all of your friends are married, own a home, and are over the age of 30, you shouldn't be selling to them.
ryutoki 1 month ago
@jonesfamilyphoto But even if you do try to sell to your friends, they're not going stop being your friend just because you gave them a sales pitch. You're drastically over-estimating their hypothetical reaction. At worst they might be slightly annoyed with you, but they're not going to stop being your friend over something so petty.
ryutoki 1 month ago
@jonesfamilyphoto Heck, I actually gave a CUTCO sales pitch to one of my best friends. He told me beforehand that he wasn't going to buy anything, but I just told him that it didn't matter because I got paid $15 just to give a presentation, regardless of whether or not he bought anything. And true to his word, he didn't buy anything, but he was perfectly happy to help me earn a little money. You know why? Because he was my friend! Friends do that kind of thing for each other.
ryutoki 1 month ago
@ryutoki Yes but then you had to get him to give you some more contacts to badger.
jonesfamilyphoto 4 weeks ago
@jonesfamilyphoto Well yeah, list building is an important part of any sales job. You can't sell if you have no customers to talk to.
ryutoki 4 weeks ago
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ryutoki 1 month ago
@killumashotti Actually, you don't see the truth. All you saw in this video was an ignorant kid who doesn't understand how sales jobs work complaining about a job he never actually did. If someone never actually worked for a company, then you can't trust their opinion on what working for that company is like.
ryutoki 1 month ago
Global knives are the highest rated knives in the world, and they are indeed from Japan. They are also cheaper than Cutco. To see one of many independent studies done, search "Chef Knife Comparison" in Google and click on the article from CookingForEngineers (1st non sponsored link). It does side by side tests of the top 8 or 9 brands out there. Note Cutco's rating compared to competitors. Cutco may sell more than any other brand, but that certainly does not make them the highest in quality.
Mr3dPHD 1 month ago
@Mr3dPHD The opinion of one critic is not the entire world. That's the thing you've got to remember about reviews: they're all based on opinion. Sure, a critic can say that any one particular brand of knives is the best in the world IN HIS OWN OPINION, but that doesn't necessarily mean anyone else is going to agree.
ryutoki 1 month ago
haha you're fucking retarded. number one selling cutlery in the world. in 2010 we sold 257 million dollars when our number one competitor (Henkels) sold just under 45 million.. sounds like a pretty damn successful scam.
rdhaynie 1 month ago
Many years ago went to the training I think the guys doing the training are really getting bread cause the sell a set to multiple groups a day. They also kinda brain wash you as the drill you with the training. I was convinced that they were the best thing ever but I didn't have the 150 for the starter set. About few days later I realized I just felt how they wanted and that knifes were not the greatest thing on the planet
theSnago 1 month ago
How much did you sell? You do realize that when you're first staring out, you only get a commission of 10%, right? That means if you sold $100 worth of knives on your first pay period, then you would naturally only get $10 commission. And selling $270 worth of knives would likewise only net you a $27 commission.
You can increase the percentage of your commission over time, but you have to keep selling.
ryutoki 1 month ago
Oh, btw, Cutco, although is pretty good, is not worth the high price.
sangjinje 1 month ago
This guy is so right! He is just saying that Vector is smart in using HS school kids who are most likely just sell to their parents and then find out that they suck at selling and quit. However, the FEW good ones make a killing. I bought one from a student in a TaeKwonDo class, and they are super awesome knives. But seriously, Japanese do make the best knives. Their knife and sword technique were literally perfected hundreds of years ago and does not get any better. But I still prefer the Wustof
sangjinje 1 month ago
Had to stop this around 3 minutes, cant stand listening to you. You say you DID your research????? You get the numbers from your family members and call them to set up a POSSIBLE appointment, Ive been sellin for 3 days now made $1200 in commissions got a whole bunch of free shit, and a whole list of contacts
50CalDemon 1 month ago
Lol this is so true
heartsoftheinnocence 1 month ago
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The fact that CUTCO is #1 in North American in Kitchen Cutlery is irrefutable. The fact that there are hundreds of reps across North America that have made 10, 20, 30, 40 THOUSAND dollars a year from selling CUTCO is also irrefutable. How could a company with 17 million customers be a scam? I can show you picture from Scotland, Hawaii, Toronto, Whistler, Calgary, Montreal (many more) that I have gone to for FREE or a huge discount because of Vector Marketing.
1Adr1an6 1 month ago
Great information... also, this guy is really attractive.. that helps. LOL.
greentyce 2 months ago
i didnt pay for my sample kit...?
stevenrod809 2 months ago
Great view on this!
TechCenterTV 2 months ago
i made $7,000 in 4 months, and I'm 19. it"s not a lie. Your opinion of an opportunity VECTOR clearly was wrong in offering you will NEVER be important or significant enough to warrant you bashing a company that has been around for longer than your parents, and ATTEMPTING to prevent people "suffering" from this job. IT IS A JOB PEOPLE. If you don't succeed, don't blame it on us at VECTOR. Take responsibility for your lack of effort, and go work at McDonald's or Sonic.
sirMaxwellCutco 2 months ago
@sirMaxwellCutco and you are paid to say good things. Vector has a very large lawsuit about this.
Moopster12 2 months ago
Oh, and another thing. A nice little perk about the guarantee we give, is that you can call our office and instead of sending in your knives to get sharpened we can come to your house and do it for you. For the record I live in Orlando. Good luck to anyone who wants to work there, maybe you'll have a good time maybe not. So far I personally have done well.
Manif3st0 2 months ago
I work for a really good branch of this company. Some people seem to get employed by the more crooked ones, though. With our branch, I get $15 per appointment and you start out with 10% incentive (commission, whatever you'd like to call it).
We also have a program (again, this may be exclusive to the branch or office I work for) where you can trade in 4-5 junk knives and get $2-300 off a new set of Cutco. I lose money when I make that deal with someone, but it makes sales 10x easier.
Manif3st0 2 months ago
I AM ABOUT TO TAKE THE JOB INTERVIEW TOMMOROW LAWL
iPwnNoobsBRO 2 months ago
very very well thought out
iPwnNoobsBRO 2 months ago
i have a super plan. ;]
JayxBraun 3 months ago
My story: Worked with the company for about 4 months. Sold 2k in my first week. Got promoted to Assistant Manager a few weeks ago, which means I get 1% of new business office sales. But this job is definitely not about selling knives. You learn how to become a successful person in this company. You learn how to manage your time and think positively. The best part is deff the conferences and incentive trips. SO MUCH POSITIVE ENERGY! You have no idea what you are missing. NORTHEAST REGION! #1
RrisenVideos 3 months ago
The only reason people say Vector is a scam is because they look on the internet. They see that Vector is a scam, so they create their own videos about how it's a scam (using the internet as their main source of info). Then people who watch those videos quit training and post their own anti-Vector testimonials. It's a self-perpetuating anti-Vector movement. Kinda weird, because the company is not a scam at all.
RrisenVideos 3 months ago
Cutco knives are the cheapest of the high-quality knives, made from just 440A steel. Reps just gloss it over. Sales is a numbers game. The world is cruel, people use people to improve themselves. Now if you see yourself as a good-natured angel who would rather get poor than to use acquaintances to your advantage, it's up to you. My point is, the Cutco approach to sales is just the typical sales pitch. Evil and nothing special. But you gotta do what you gotta do for the big bucks.
TheDonutx 3 months ago
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RrisenVideos 3 months ago
@RrisenVideos Sorry. Cutco's 440A steel is not the highest grade. I assume you're a sales rep, cuz thats exactly the line at the end of page 5, before the rope-cutting demo. Anyway, Shun's VG-10 has vanadium in it, which makes it get a really sharp edge. 440A is sharp, but the only advantage to VG-10 is that it's shinier. And housewives love shiny stuff. I'd agree though that what sets Cutco apart is the guarantee. 440A is the Fisher-Price of high-end steel.
TheDonutx 3 months ago
@RrisenVideos One more thing, don't get me wrong, I'm currently workin for Vector, and my verdict? Cutco is great because of the guarantee. Also, 440A is acceptable if you're not really into serious research on the kind of steel you use to chop food (I just want to slice tomatoes, do I care if the blade's S30V or VG-10 or 440A?). Cutco is "great" because people buy it as long as its shiny and it can function like a katana to slice whole pineapples in half.
TheDonutx 3 months ago
@TheDonutx 440A is not the highest grade, but if you think about it, it's the best choice for the company. It's easy to sharpen and it's more resistant to rusting/corrosion. If it needs sharpening, the factory can do it with ease and precision. And 440A is, yes, the fisher price version of steel only if the company doesn't treat it properly. Cutco's heat treatment process and overall knife design is unparalleled in my opinion. With the DDedge, the blade doesnt even touch the cutting board.
RrisenVideos 3 months ago
thanks i had training next week now im not going
TheKendra1423 3 months ago
And seeing these comments where people swear by the life time warranty you might want to read into it. If the knife breaks you can buy another - for half price. Along with some other rules, go read them.
animallove6991 3 months ago
Thank you! My friend is in love with this "new job" she has, but I told her they were a scam. But nooooo. Won't listen to me. I give it 6 months...maybe 4.
animallove6991 3 months ago
You sir..are smart. I was referred to them by a friend just today. I was called today for an interview tomorrow ..I'm not going.
305Iron 3 months ago 2
I worked for them this summer. It was tough, but a great experience & I learned a ton.
Gammodore 4 months ago
Hi, has anyone worked for vector recently, western ny area?
kanlopez 4 months ago
You can make your own money by selling the cutco knives, but the vector company does NOT pay you $16 an hour for all of the hard, selling/distributing work the employeee has been doing. The sixteen bucks an hour thing is a big lie. Not only that, but what job requires you to give out over 100 personal information of other people? Phone numbers that is...
dannyboyyy1000 4 months ago
Spot on
fancy 4 months ago
you are pretty much right dude. oh and i did buy a sig. set from my nephew lol but i must say they are great knifes and i would buy them again. for those of you looking to do this program i would recommend you have good ppl skills. Research your product and learn everything about it, for the simple fact you don't want to have to keep looking at the paper to tell ppl about the product, this makes it seem as if you have little knowledge about the product your selling. so good luck!
suttle86 5 months ago
you are pretty much right dude. oh and i did buy a sig. set from my nephew lol but i must say they are great knifes and i would buy them again. for those of you looking to do this program i would recommend you have good ppl skills. Research your product and learn everything about it, for the simple fact you don't want to have to keep looking at the paper to tell ppl about the product, this makes it seem as if you have little knowledge about the product your selling. so good luck!
suttle86 5 months ago
lol you clearly didnt do good enough research
the referrals dont call you ask permission to call those referrals
most good sales people dont sell 50 sets a week thats insanely good
japan does not have the best knives germany does
and the reason you think that cutco knives are over priced is becuase your a guy who probably doesnt cook the exact person we are told not to see.
and yes you are saying dont do it
people try it out you could be like me i made $10,000 in the summer alone
superdupergavina 5 months ago 9
@superdupergavina he says maybe 50 sets. there are people that sell 40+ knife sets a week. its not for everyone.
teenagewasteland515 2 months ago
@superdupergavina Vector/Cutco In my eyes bro Is a complete ripoff. I did work for them and yes I was an amazing sales rep. And guess what happend? They jail rapped me. I only got two pay checks and those were shit. Of course Germany has the best knives it's fucking Germany. All Cuto/Vector is, is a complete waste of time. Go to wal-mart or lowes they actually pay you.
Dieuntotenfilms1 1 month ago
@Dieuntotenfilms1 How many appointments did you do? Did you get any sales? If you only did a handful of appointments and didn't get many sales, then naturally your paychecks would be low. That's the thing with sales jobs: you get paid on commission. Don't make sales, and you don't make commission, and your paychecks will look like crap. Don't blame the company for your inability as a salesman.
ryutoki 1 month ago
@ryutoki I guess you don't know how to read. I did say in my comment that I was a Great salesman. I had enough sales where I should have gotten more cash.
Dieuntotenfilms1 1 month ago
@Dieuntotenfilms1 So you're saying they weren't paying you for some of your sales? Or was the commission simply not enough? Cuz' there's a distinct difference between those two scenarios.
ryutoki 1 month ago
@ryutoki Basiclly they didn't pay me at all. First pay check 10 bucks second 27 I didn't get anymore after words and I still had sales.
Dieuntotenfilms1 1 month ago
@Dieuntotenfilms1 Were you submitting your sales properly through the Rep Online Order form (ROLO)? Cuz' if you weren't properly submitting your sales reports, then it's possible they may have gotten lost somewhere along the way.
ryutoki 1 month ago
@ryutoki You are not being pragmatic.You could be the greatest salesman ever...that does'nt mean you're going to sell anything. First of all good luck with setting up an appointment to waste an hour of a day for a customer. If a customer does not want to buy a bunch of overpriced knives, they will NOT buy them period no matter how good the sales pitch is. You can go to Target and buy much less expenive knives that serve their purpose.
vcrm1 1 month ago
@vcrm1 Actually, only 10% of the people you see are guaranteed to not buy from you no matter what. 20% will buy even if you have the worst sales pitch in the world, and 70% depends on you and how good your sales pitch is. So yeah, you're not going to sell everyone all the time, but a vast majority of your sales will in fact hinge on your ability to be persuasive. It's the same with any sales job.
ryutoki 1 month ago
@ryutoki Reliable source for your facts? Don't tell me Vector. Get real, 70% are NOT going to shell out $500.00 BECAUSE of your sales pitch..NO ONE is going to even allow you to even go to their house and waste an hour of their busy schedule if they already made up their minds...besides it would sound creepy/scary to a housewife if you called her and said you wanted to show her some knives.
vcrm1 1 month ago
@vcrm1 That's the statistics for selling any product with any company.
10% never buy.
20% always buy.
70% depends on you.
Like I said, that isn't just Vector/Cutco, it's EVERY company that does sales. That's how sales work.
And yes, people DO let you in their house. It may sound strange, but it does happen. And even if someone has already made up their mind, you CAN change their mind if you're persuasive enough. That's what being a good salesman is all about.
ryutoki 1 month ago
@ryutoki Again where are your reliable sources? Do your stats still apply if your selling hundred dollar mothballs? I personally would not allow/trust anyone in my house if they called me and wanted to a knife demo.
vcrm1 1 month ago
@vcrm1 Maybe YOU wouldn't let anyone in your house, but there are plenty of other people who would. The fact that CUTCO sells so many knives is proof enough of that.
ryutoki 1 month ago
@ryutoki Believe me, most sane people/housewives would get freaked out if they received a call from a stranger who wanted to go over their house and show them a bunch of knives.
vcrm1 1 month ago
@vcrm1 Yeah, that's why people who sell Cutco are taught to sell to relatives and neighbors. They don't sell to total strangers. There's almost always a connection of some kind.
ryutoki 1 month ago
@ryutoki When no one you know wants to buy these overpriced knives, then you'll have to call total strangers.
vcrm1 1 month ago
@vcrm1 Well you're actually supposed to get references from the people you sell to. Even if you just give someone a presentation and they don't buy anything, you still get references from them of people who might buy.
So even if you don't directly know the person yourself, you'll know someone they do know, and that connection will help establish trust. This is especially true when the person who referred them calls them first, which is another technique that CUTCO sales reps use.
ryutoki 1 month ago
@ryutoki oh that makes sense....so someone will take comfort in knowing that im her friend's friend's cousin's, friend's cousin. Sounds like a stranger to me.
vcrm1 1 month ago
@vcrm1 You don't tell them whole chain, you just tell them the one person who referred them to you. And yes, if their neighbor already talked to them about you (which they should have if you're doing it right), then yes, they will be perfectly comfortable talking to you. It's called establishing rapport, and yes, you can do it with anyone, even people who you've just met.
ryutoki 1 month ago
@ryutoki until they run out of freinds and family cutco sucks its abad sale experience its like saleing adult toys to kids go suck it cutco
7StarsFromTheMoOn 1 month ago
@7StarsFromTheMoOn That's why you get referrals from the people you sell to. If you get just five referrals from every presentation, giving just three presentations would net you 15 more people you could call. And then if you get five referrals from each of those people, you'd have 75 more people you could call. Really, you don't ever run out of people to call if you do it like they train you to.
ryutoki 1 month ago
@vcrm1 Honestly, if you think people's minds can't be changed, then you'd make a terrible salesman. A good salesman CAN persuade people to buy a product they hadn't initially planned on buying if he can make the product seem valuable enough. Seriously, go learn how to sell before you start making ignorant claims about what does and doesn't work in sales.
ryutoki 1 month ago
@ryutoki you are completely WRONG... if you don't want to purchase something you will NOT purchase it unless you have a gun at your head. Again,honestly ,where is the practicality in shelling out $500.00 for a set of knives, when you can purchase a cheaper set at Target? If youv'e studied economics, people will opt for the cheaper set unless you are a knife collecter or an idiot.
vcrm1 1 month ago
@vcrm1 So are you a salesman? Have you ever tried to sell anything? I'm guessing not, because you incorrectly assume that people can't be persuaded to buy something. Seriously, go learn how to sell before you start saying stupid things like "It's impossible to persuade people to buy things." It's not impossible. A good salesman persuades people to buy things all the time.
And if a person cooks a lot, they'd generally prefer to have a quality set of cutlery, rather than something cheap.
ryutoki 1 month ago
@ryutoki OK if I called you and wanted to come over your house to sell you a scissor set for $500.00...would you even allow me to make that appointment? And don't lie and say yes. You would say no because most people have no use for an expensive scissor set. The same thing applies to these knives.
vcrm1 1 month ago
@vcrm1 If you called? No, you're a jackass. I wouldn't let a jackass in my house. But if a close friend or relative asked, then sure, I'd be willing to listen to them. I probably wouldn't buy because I have no use for a set of scissors, but I'm sure someone who did a lot of quilting or some other type of craft that needed various kinds of scissors might be interested.
ryutoki 1 month ago
@ryutoki so you're resorting to name calling...how convenient for someone who has lost an argument. You still haven't answered my question..Why would someone buy a $500.00 knife set when they can purchase a SIGNIFICANTLY less expensive knife set that would last a lifetime somewhere else?
vcrm1 1 month ago
@vcrm1 Also, there's a very important fact you're completely overlooking, which is that products which are not profitable do not stay on the market.
CUTCO is still on the market today, and has been since 1949. That means CUTCO has been around for over 62 years! The fact that these knives have been around so long is irrefutable proof that people ARE buying them! If people weren't buying them, the company would have gone out of business long ago. Seriously, use your brain here.
ryutoki 1 month ago
@ryutoki if its so successful, why is the only factory in Olean New York, why are their local offices holes in the wall with 2 "employees", why don't they offer BENEFITS, and company cars? Why do they make it so easy for morons to get hired and ask for a list of 10 people who need a job plus their numbers? If you're so smart why aren't you working for a more prestigious / successful company like Microsoft or Google? You'll be an 80 year old bum with NO social security income.
vcrm1 1 month ago
@vcrm1 Cutco sells $200,000,000 (that's two-hundred million dollars) worth of knives every year. If a single factory can produce that many knives, why would they need to have more than one factory? Adding more factories just seems like it would add an unnecessary expense to the company's budget.
Same goes for the the offices they have. If a small office with two managers is all they need to get the job done, why would they use any more? A good, efficient company keeps its expenses low.
ryutoki 1 month ago
@ryutoki The fact of the matter is that if they only have 1 factory, 2 "employees "working" in a hole in a wall, make it so easy for idiots to get hired, do not provide company cars nor BENEFITS, and ask for 10 people who need a job plus their numbers makes it a poor company. They need to keep expenses low unlike far more successful companies like Microsoft or Google who employ hundreds of workers in their local branches and do provide benefits.
vcrm1 1 month ago
@vcrm1 Dude, you have the worst entitlement mentality I've ever seen. Not every company is going to give a free car to every single employee they hire, not even Microsoft or Google, especially not a company that typically hires teenagers and college kids. If you were to go get a job at McDonald's, they wouldn't give you a free car either, I guarantee it.
But I guess by your logic McDonald's must be a failure of a company since they don't give out free cars to their employees.
ryutoki 1 month ago
@ryutoki if you're so smart/motivated why aren't you working for Microsoft or Google? Oh.. that's right you don't have a college degree...
vcrm1 1 month ago
@vcrm1 What makes you think I don't have a college degree? You have no way of knowing what kind of education I do or don't have.
ryutoki 1 month ago
@vcrm1 Also, why aren't YOU working for Microsoft or Google?
ryutoki 1 month ago
@ryutoki Well, i received my BA Degree in Accounting from UC Davis a few years back...And i currently work as a Cost Accountant. Yes i do get a secure/reliable hourly income. and currently make 35k a year with a 401K, not to mention full health coverage. If you have a college degree from a major university, you definitley would not be working for Vector.
vcrm1 1 month ago
@vcrm1 But do you work for Microsoft or Google?
Also, $35k a year is kinda pathetic.
ryutoki 1 month ago
@ryutoki well i guess you can say owning my own condo, receiving a secure / reliable paycheck, not having to pay medical bills, and getting paid vacation time is also pathetic since your an idiot. Seriously dude, get a REAL job. i'd be 60 years old retired in the Bahamas, when your 95 year old man still going door to door trying to sell dumb knives.
vcrm1 4 weeks ago
@vcrm1 Sales IS a real job, dumbfuck. Jobs where you get paid by the hour are a waste of time, and they drain your life away. It's better to get paid according to your effort, because then you can determine your own paycheck, rather than having your paycheck determined by the company. The only kind of job where that's possible is a sales job.
And for those who have mastered the art of selling, their lifetime income will be exponentially greater than that of anyone who works by the hour.
ryutoki 4 weeks ago
@vcrm1 Also, I can guarantee you that you won't be retiring in the Bahamas if you're working as an employee, regardless of what company you work for. Unless you don't mind living in poverty during your retirement in the Bahamas, but your tone seemed to imply that you thought you would retire in luxury.
Sorry to tell you, but that doesn't happen as an employee. The only way to afford that is to master the art of selling. If your job pays by the hour, you'll never get rich from it. Ever.
ryutoki 4 weeks ago
@vcrm1 Also, there are plenty of college graduates who work for Vector Marketing. It's a great place to work if you want to learn how to sell, since selling is a skill that isn't taught in any college or university.
For example, there's James Blackburn, who didn't work for Vector until after he received his BA, and now he's earning a six figure income because of the skills he learned working for Vector.
You can check out his free report here:
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ryutoki 4 weeks ago
@ryutoki sales jobs are for losers/idiots who don't have an education or a brain....maybe like you. That is why they are NOT taught in Universities. why do you think vector hires just about evey moron?. why do they ask on their mickey mouse applications for a list of 10 people who need a job plus their numbers? why do they ask you for your hobbies???? why do they try to lure you through their misleading ads and make it so easy to get an interview? Get a REAL job dude.
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ryutoki 4 weeks ago
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@vcrm1 Sales jobs are for idiots? Okay, now I KNOW you're stupid. I mean, I knew that already, but this just confirms it all the more.
The richest people in the world are all salesmen. All of them. You cannot become rich without mastering the art of selling.
Schools don't teach people how to sell because the entire education system is designed to turn people into employees. To become rich, you need to be a business owner, which is something you can't do if you can't sell.
ryutoki 4 weeks ago
@ryutoki The only reason you could be working for VEctor is if you graduated from COMMUNITY college.
vcrm1 4 weeks ago
@vcrm1 Or maybe someone would work for Vector because they understand just how incredibly valuable a skill being able to sell is. If you can't sell, you'll spend your entire life never getting the things you want most, regardless of how hard you work.
ryutoki 4 weeks ago
@vcrm1 Also, Microsoft and Google are software development companies. Vector is a marketing and sales company. Software development requires huge teams; sales does not.
The companies perform totally different functions, so it's only natural that they're going to have totally different numbers of personnel in their offices.
Seriously, do you ever go into a McDonalds and wonder why they only have like five people working in the restaurant at any given time? Because that's all they need!
ryutoki 1 month ago
@ryutoki Oh and NO PAID TRAINING????What legit / successful company does'nt pay you for training?
vcrm1 1 month ago
@vcrm1 They have to do that so that people don't just come in for the training and then never sell anything. It's a perfectly understandable policy for a sales job.
ryutoki 1 month ago
@ryutoki Its simple....they can't provide paid training / HEALTH BENEFITS, and company cars because they can't afford it unlike more established and reputable companies. i will not spend $70.00 of my OWN cash a week on gas not to mention wear and tear on my OWN car trying to sell a bunch of overpriced knives to people who don't need them and who live MILES apart. If the company requires you to drive to peoples' homes, then I would expect it to provide a company car.
vcrm1 1 month ago
@vcrm1 Dude, company benefits are completely worthless. The only kind of benefits that anyone should care about are benefits they provide for themselves with their own assets and their own income.
And there is not a single sales company on the face of the earth that provides company cars for every single sales rep. None. Expecting employees to use their own cars is NOT something that's unique to Vector Marketing. Every single sales company on earth makes employees use their own cars.
ryutoki 1 month ago
@ryutoki "company benefits are completely worthless" ....you see company benefits are only provided by rich not poor companies. AND i take it you would gladly spend $500.00 a month on health insurance from your own pocket....spoken like a true idiot. AND if a sales company expects you to do a lot of traveling and if the company has a lot of money, i would expect them to provide company cars.
vcrm1 1 month ago
@vcrm1 If you expect a sales company to provide you with a company car, then your expectations are unreasonable. Seriously, have you EVER done sales even ONCE in your entire life? I'm guessing not, since you obviously have no fucking clue how sales even work.
You don't get your own fucking car just for being a sales rep. No sales company on earth provides that kind of luxury. Not one.
ryutoki 4 weeks ago
@ryutoki if a sales company expects you to travel miles a day, they will provide a company car if they are rich.
vcrm1 4 weeks ago
@vcrm1 How the hell would you know? You've never worked in sales! You even claimed that sales jobs are for idiots (which is an incredibly stupid thing to say, by the way).
There is not a single sales company on earth that gives out free cars to every single sales rep. Not one. No company does that. Not even the rich ones.
Seriously, go work in sales for a while and learn what the fuck you're talking about before you make yourself look any more ignorant than you already have.
ryutoki 4 weeks ago
@ryutoki once again, get a REAL job lazy moron. Sales don't require a BRAIN or college degree. Maybe that is why you like Vector so much. Why do you think Vector hires every idiot and makes it so easy to get an interview? Why do they ask on their job applications a list of ten people who need a job plus their numbers? Sales does NOT make people rich dumbass... INTELLIGENCE makes people rich... and you DEFINITELY DO NOT need intelligence to be a salesman.
vcrm1 3 weeks ago
@vcrm1 Oh btw way could you name credible sources for your 10% 30% 70% claim?Also, I currently make $35.00 an hour and yes my salary is performanced and seniority based PLUS i have health benefits which VEctor clearly does not provide because it s a piss poor company. It is a piss poor comapny because no one wants to buy OVERPRICED knives.
vcrm1 3 weeks ago
@vcrm1 Well sales may not require a college degree, but it certainly requires a brain. Seriously, you know absolutely nothing about sales. Sales is not easy. It's incredibly hard work to sell effectively. So for you to call me lazy only proves how completely and totally ignorant you are about how sales work. Honestly, you should go out and actually try it sometime. It's not easy. It takes a lot of hard work and effort to be effective at it.
ryutoki 3 weeks ago
@vcrm1 And yes, you DO need to be intelligent to be a salesman. You have to know how to handle objections and correctly explain all the advantages that your product has over the competition. That means you have to be intimately familiar every aspect of your product, down to the tiniest detail. Obtaining that level of familiarity takes practice, dedication, and study. It's a lot of hard work. You don't need a college education to do it, but that doesn't mean it's easy.
ryutoki 3 weeks ago
@vcrm1 And the reason Vector Marketing doesn't require a college degree of their applicants is because a college degree isn't necessary to be a successful salesman. But that sure as hell doesn't mean sales is easy. A job doesn't have to require a college degree to be difficult.
Did you know that you don't need a college degree to enlist in the Army, either? I guess that must mean being a soldier is a super easy job that requires no brains, since it doesn't require a college degree...
ryutoki 3 weeks ago
@vcrm1 Also, one last thing: your claim that intelligence makes people rich is only half right. While it is true that intelligence is one of the necessary components to become rich, intelligence alone is not enough. The fact that so many brilliant men live in poverty is proof enough of that.
In addition to intelligence, you also need to know how to be persuasive. An intelligent man who lacks the ability to persuade and influence people can never obtain great wealth.
ryutoki 3 weeks ago
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@ryutoki OH btw could you name credible sources for your 10% 30% 70% claim? Also i currently make $35.00 an hour and yes my salary is performanced and seniority based PLUS i have health benefits which VEctor clearly does not provide becsause it is a piss poor company. It is a piss poor company because no one wants to buy a bunch of OVERPRICED knives.
vcrm1 3 weeks ago
@vcrm1 I would pay for my medical bills out money produced by my own assets. I wouldn't rely on so called "benefits" provided by a company or handouts from the government, because both of those are unreliable and likely won't cover all the costs if some unforeseen tragedy were to occur. Anyone who expects the government or their company to take care of them is a fool.
ryutoki 4 weeks ago
@ryutoki "I would pay for my medical bills out of money produced by my own assets"....LOL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!no use arguing with an idiot.
vcrm1 4 weeks ago
@vcrm1 I agree...
ryutoki 4 weeks ago
@vcrm1 Also, the gas is tax deductible, so you get the money back with your tax return anyway, so it doesn't matter.
Also, if you spend $5 on gas to get out to an appointment, and then you sell $1,000 worth of knives at that appointment, and you're earning a 50% commission, then you just earned $500. Spending $5 to earn $500 sounds like a great deal to me.
ryutoki 1 month ago
@vcrm1 Oh, and Social Security is completely worthless. The government lies to you and tells you they'll provide for you, but the truth is they really can't. There's just not enough money to go around. If you actually LOOK at the people who live off of Social Security, you'll notice that they're all incredibly poor and have no money. If you ask me, that's the REAL scam.
It's better to depend on your own income to support yourself, rather than to depend on the government.
ryutoki 1 month ago
@ryutoki umm im doing just fine on SSI 750 a month and enjoying life im not poor in any way i think your answer and research of SSI was poor lols
7StarsFromTheMoOn 1 month ago
@7StarsFromTheMoOn Is Social Security your sole source of income, or do you have other income streams as well?
ryutoki 1 month ago
@7StarsFromTheMoOn $750 a month adds up to only $9k a year. If your annual income is only $9k, then you're in the poverty level. So thanks for proving my point.
ryutoki 1 month ago
@ryutoki Depends on how you use your money dipshit! poverty doesnt just mean poor dumb ass poor is when you dont have any source of income or food and have no roof over your head. 9k a year is great for some people too bad thats not really what i make and sad you dont understand the definition of poor.I said i make 750 from ssi to see what ridiculous comment youd post your a waste of my time I probably make more in a day than you make in a life time
7StarsFromTheMoOn 4 weeks ago
@7StarsFromTheMoOn Actually, you're the dipshit here, because according to the dictionary, the words "poor" and "poverty" mean exactly the same thing. They're synonyms. You know, two different words that mean the same thing? And no, you don't have to be homeless to be poor.
Also, if you didn't want me to believe that you only made $9k a year you wouldn't have said that you only got $750 a month. You can't blame me when you're the one who was being intentionally misleading.
ryutoki 4 weeks ago
@7StarsFromTheMoOn By the way, since you apparently make so much money, what kind of assets have you invested your money in? They must be pretty damn good assets if they can generate as much money in one day as I can make over the course of my entire life.
Or do you even know what an asset is?
ryutoki 4 weeks ago
@ryutoki don't need retirement income????? respond back to me when you're a 95 year old man still trying to sell knives...
vcrm1 1 month ago
@vcrm1 I didn't say I didn't need retirement income, I just want my retirement to be paid for by my own assets rather than from the government's welfare programs. Seriously, go read any book about financial independence and wealth, and every single one of them will tell you the same thing: if you depend on the government or your company benefits for retirement, you will be poor and have no spare money. But if you fund your retirement yourself, you can multiply your income exponentially.
ryutoki 1 month ago
@vcrm1 Also, I'm not going to be selling knives my whole life. This is just a job I've got so that I can learn how how to sell. The ability to sell is one of the most valuable skills anyone can learn in their lives.
ryutoki 1 month ago
@ryutoki your're statement is misleading. Cutco is the top selling PREMIUM brand of cutlery in the US. How many other PREMIUM brands of cutlery are there in the US?What percentage of Americans are willing to by a set of knives let alone a set for $500.00?
vcrm1 1 month ago
@vcrm1 Lots of people are. I'm guessing you don't cook, because people who do cook buy premium quality knives all the time.
ryutoki 1 month ago
@ryutoki My mother cooks all the time and has had her knives all her life and they will cut perfectly fine in another lifetime .Answer this...WHY would a person purchase a knife set for $500.00 when they could buy SIGNIFICANTLY less expensive knives that last a lifetime somehwere else?
vcrm1 1 month ago
@vcrm1 Your mother cooks all the time? How old are you, kid? Fifteen?
ryutoki 1 month ago
@ryutoki No actually i have my own place. I just happen to visit her on a weekly basis.
vcrm1 1 month ago
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@ryutoki No actually i have my own place. I just happen to visit her on a weekly basis.
vcrm1 1 month ago
@vcrm1 And sure, a set of $10 knives from Target may be able to do the job of cutting, but they won't do it AS WELL as Cutco knives will. Just like a Ford Pinto and a Ferrari both allow you to do the job of driving, but the Ferrari does it so much better.
ryutoki 1 month ago
@ryutoki Overwhelming majority of people are practical. Be realistic, spending $500.00 on a set of knives is NOT practical.....Why in the world would somone in their right mind waste $500.00 on a set of knives. Even if I were a millionare, i would not waste $500.00.
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ryutoki 1 month ago
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@vcrm1 People spend lots of money on expensive things all the time. And yes, that includes high quality knives. You're probably some teenage kid who doesn't understand just how much adults spend on a regular basis. (HINT: it's a lot more than a teenager or someone in their twenties spends.)
And given how CUTCO is the top selling brand of cutlery in the U.S., I think it's pretty safe to say that yes, people do spend $500 on a set of knives. It's perfectly practical if you cook a lot.
ryutoki 1 month ago
@superdupergavina Lol ikr I did And im only 17
oIKracKlezz 1 month ago
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Cool ass white boy i had to give a negro clap (real loud) lol because i believed he sheds light on the whole "Vector" thing. Yo u smart! hit me up bro
MrTjmack101 5 months ago
I bought a set love em. $1400 worth, don't need them just like them
maschngon 5 months ago
vector is not a scam, you CAN be successful i tried it for a month and i made a couple sales...you can be successful if you really call 10 people a day, call your manager every morning and every night and text every bit of info to the demo check in line...you can be successful but its too much supervision for me i dont like to have them breathing down my neck every waking day of my life! id rather get paid minimum wage than the 15 dollars a demo with a 'round the clock overseer on my ass
templarmoney1 5 months ago
hey guys, i just got employed by cutco. maybe op was right. but how does people not buying have anything to do with us employ getting appointment?
to me it doesn't matter if i don't get sales. i can even talk on the phone and say,
"hey, if i can have around 30 min of your time I will give you 7 bucks. you don't have to buy anything either"
and then this way i can get like 5 appointment a day and make ([19-7]*5)60 bucks. i don't have to let my parents buy them. i also gain real field experience
hacksign20 6 months ago
Sales is not for everyone...neither is pro football or becoming a surgeon. Stop your whining .The Vector Opportunity does work, if you work the program. I personally made $9,600 during my first 12 weeks with the company back in 1989. I was the envy of all my friends. They made fun of me for selling knives until the checks started rolling in. I still own and use my 3 Homemaker sets and the cookware. It is awesome and I owe much of my business success to the training I received at Vector.
duckcommander66 6 months ago 7
@duckcommander66 Will you please tell me more about your experience working for Vector ?? I had my interview with them friday 9/2/11 and I start the "training" phase on thursday this week.... I hope you can get back to me before then. Im actually lookin for a good career and not something that might look good on my resume, so I just want to know what to expect.
DrVegasIII 6 months ago
@DrVegasIII My name is Christian. I'm a student at louisiana tech university. i'm 19 years old. I work for vector marketing. Anyone who has any questions can ask me right now! Its a real job with real money. Its better money than you're gonna make doing anything else. BTW, this guy isn't correct.
musicmanstamps 6 months ago
@musicmanstamps I am wondering why all the sales reps for the company are so young. Why if its such a great opportunity is it filled with young people in high school, or just in college?
brandtbrian123 5 months ago
@brandtbrian123 I have reps in my office as young as 17 and as old as late 50's. The oil field is very lucrative but women rarely take jobs there. It doesn't matter how good the money is, they feel like its not for them. Most people older than your average grad student don't feel like the can do it or refuse to. Also, they only promote internally. That means that if you have a masters, it wont help you get a better position. Lots of people have problems with that.
musicmanstamps 5 months ago
@brandtbrian123 Vector marketing says its to give younger people the opportunity to develop experience in sales and gain job experience period...plus they offer flexible hours, the only problem i have with Vector Marketing is you have call your manager between 7 and 9 in the morning and 7-9 at night so you have to plan your life around your job...you cant go out bcus you have appointments, you really dont have a chance to HAVE a life its like your a Vector slave
templarmoney1 5 months ago
Seems like instead of VECOTR, your working by the chinese knive company!!!! :)
ianpu2fan 6 months ago
Also for the feferrels you call them they don't call you and most of the time the strangers you call want to help you out and they not only see you because it was their friends and family members you that referred them to you but they are excited to see the product because those friends and or family members loved it so much. And trust me, people buy big sets.
rowbot1918 6 months ago
I also sold quite abit in my first 10 days. I only sold about 1.5k to family and after 10 days I had 9k in sales most of itto strangers and I've won some pretty cool prizes aswell. People will buy because they are the best knives out there. Japanese knives arethe best? That's like saying the only good hockey sticks are the ones made in Canada. I've beenworking for about 3 weeks now and have over 14k in sales,with no sales background prior to this. Soyou tell me if you think it was worth my time.
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james1forification1 6 months ago
Bro... you don't no what you are talking about. I sold 2000 to family (parents, grandparents, aunts and uncles) but I also sold 4000. IN 10 DAYS. You should've gone to your interview because you are so ignorant and your "research" that you did must have been through forums. I haven't had to spend a dime on knives and I've made over a thousand bucks in less than two weeks, that's better than many people who have bachelor's degrees coming out of school. Get your facts straight.
btown81110 6 months ago
i just signed up yesterday, so far im feelin this company, ive been told i can sell anything...i sold everything from candy to electronics independently for years while still in high school...and they offer investment options, you can do monthly payments, with free sharpening, forever garunteee, and if i tank at this then ill just set up about 15 appointments and get my money back and then quit....and if you dont succeed in this company its 100% your fault its not designed to fail
templarmoney1 6 months ago
worked with vector marketing 14 years ago. was a new immigrant and this was the only thing at that time i could do without canadian experience, so i took the job. if you like the product and can sell it (and are not lazy), you can make money (i did!). no it's not a scam, you just have to plain work and be smart about setting up your appointments! after the summer, i made enough money to pay for some graphic design courses i wante to take! tip: sell to resaurant owners!
jksbossert 6 months ago
I sold Cutco over 20 years ago. It was one of the greatest training program in Sales I was every involved in. If you are worth your salt you can be successful. I am now the CEO of a company and am returning my Cutco knives today to have them sharpened after 20 years. I can't say a bad thing about Vector or Cutco. I still use training today that I got back then.
seahawkpaints 6 months ago