I would like to see a game in times where Nosgoth is like the present, and vampires and the soul reaver are only myths to the citizens of Nosgoth. Where Kain is forced to blend in on city streets in order to fulfill his destiny. Where he has to feed carefully, and try to blend in. I think he would be a major CEO, or something, just so he would have the money and power in that century to do what he wants.
But that's just one thing that could happen. I'd be leased with another game at all.
@juggalosqueaks i just don't understand why he chucks aside as if it is worthless. later on in the game he uses the physical reaver against his human sarafan brothers.
i never played the game so forgive me for not understanding. but why is it useful later on in the game when janos gives it to him and not now?
@fyckthissht I think it's due to him being somewhat spooked by it from what he is saying. Plus he has the spirit reaver so why use the physical one? Raziel always was a strange fella lol.
Anyone else notice when Raziel just flicks the top of Moebious's head @3:10 and the old fart stumbles away as if he backhanded him? Never laughed soo hard in my life at that part. xD
Even if Kain kills moebius in Bo1 he is atemporal i think.Or he is in touch with all his versions from different timelines.The Reaver belonging to William was shattered in the fight with young Kain because he was armed with the Reaver infused with Raziel's soul.
God, I hate Mobius so much. Just watching him regain his composure as he mentions the Elder, watching that horrible shit-eating grin crawl back just makes me want to punch him in the face at least a few dozen times.
Oh, if only Raziel had just killed him then and there. Granted, Mobius would've been resurrected one way or another, but still, that would have been so, SO satisfying to see.
@cripbuddz u don't get it? i didn't really mean to call you stupid, i was showing how absurd it would be to call someone stupid for not doing something that couldn't possibly be done.
Ok i really don't get how William comes to have the reaver there on his coffin. Wouldn't Kain of taken it by this point in history? This William guy was the most hard to factor in. Did Mobius merely lay the reaver there for Raziel to come across or maby it was Kain?Kain has something to gain. I wouldn't understand how Mobius would have the physical reaver that Vorador forged. Help I am confused...Lol...:D
Well what a amazing saga and story... It was nice talking about that but I'm a bit tired and I think we can debate about the whole storyline like this ! Thank you and see ya !
And the sword is purified in Defiance by both Kain and Raziel when they visit each forge and they make the wraith blade and "physical" blade one once again. Raziel described it as purified from all corruptions. Kain can see the Elder God because he has the purified Soul Reaver in his hand. Kain's wound was already healed (he is undead as a necromantic vampire he needs nothing else than blood to do so). It's Moebius that saw the Elder God after being touched by the Wraith Blade.
A person should not meet himself and it's the same thing for an item that is "unique" and that cause paradox in my opinion just like Raziel and Kain do
For example I think there was a paradox during William and Kain's fight permitting the Story to be changed by Kain's doing.
And I don't think those materials were deleted because it was bad ideas. They just never could finish their games. For example in SR2 Raziel was supposed to visit every Forges but it was canceled and he did that in Defiance.
I must admit you're right about the repaired reaver. The one Raziel has repaired was from the timeline where Kain doesn't save him in SR2. But no Kain wouldn't be 500 years before. He could travel in time a few year weeks ago if his purpose is to give the sword to his former self. However there is a blank about Moebius and William indeed since we don't know exactly where and when Moebius took the sword for William.
But paradox could be caused by the uniqueness of people and items I think.
And paradox are not caused only by the Soul Reaver. IMO with or without Raziel's soul the sword would cause a paradox if it meets itself because it is an unique sword. Just like the Heart of Darkness, as Janos's Heart, is unique and should have provoque a paradox in BO2 when Janos and the Young Kain met each other. There should also be a paradox when Raziel met his sarafan alter ego too...
My idea seems much more logical to me. But thanks anyway for the invitation.
You really think William after becoming the Nemesis would just toss away his precious vampire sword?
Nah it is more logical that Kain sure didn't use the Blood Reaver it took out of Raziel in SR2 but the one Raziel has repaired in William's tomb 500 years later. And then after Defiance Kain just left it in Avernus Cathedral so his former self could find it (In BO it is the purified sword. It devours souls and not blood !) It's the only way both Will and Kain could meet with the same sword.
On the contrary I think it's the Sword that Raziel has repaired after William's death. Then that sword has been purified by both Kain and Raziel in Defiance and then was left in Avernus for the young Kain.
And the repaired Reaver could not be the purified one. Remember what happened when the purified reaver has hurt Raziel in SR1 : it has exploded because Raziel soul was already in it and so the Sword couldn't devour the same soul again. So how come Raziel could touch a purified reaver in SR2?
heyJoudas i never understand,,, one thing..raziel took William the Just soul reaver...but why did he not take... it... raziel soul was already inside the reaver blade...so raziel would;t not need worry it attacking him
so why did not raziel took William the Just reaver??
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Wait. So, there were 2 Reavers? I know that one of them is the vampire Reaver, so the other is the knight Reaver, right?
And cus he had the knight Reaver bound to himself, the Blood Reaver attacked him, right? Or is it cus its appetite was too big and thus it attacked him? Man, that is just stupid. How can a sword have a appetite for souls? I know that Raziel is the one who eats souls, not the sword, but this time stuff is just too complicated.
at the end of this game, according to the original history raziel would be sucked into the blade and make it a soul devouring weapon. but kain stopped this from happening changing fate and making the plans of the hylden a reality
There is only 1 reaver. Kain obtained the reaver in Blood omen. Armed with the Soul reaver, Kain then traveled through time to 50 years in the past where he confronted william the just who had the same reaver (Just 50 years prior)
It's only one Reaver but from different timelines: Raziels' soul reaver (that spectral blade attached to his arm) and the original blade on Williams tomb. The final blade from the future has both the physical blade and Raziels sword so this is the historical moment when the sword was repaired (kinda of). Raziels' sword eats souls exactly like him to mantain itself.
I have just one thing to add. Raziel's "sword" is in reality his "hunger for souls". originally kain is supposed to die. due to his death he can't save raziel at the end. this causes raziel's soul to get sucked into the blade. this created the "soul reaver". When raziel repaired the sword he absorbed what was left of his soul that was in the blade. At that very moment he could have preformed an act of free will and killed Mobious. But of course the snake tricks him....
there is no knight reaver they are the same blade only from different points in time both of them contain the soul that gives the blade the power to absorb souls i guess you could say the reaver in raziel was "asleep" until now, now it's hunger is awoken so it will eat any soul it can however it is aware in eating its host it wont be able to consume ever again so it will steal any souls torn from the bodies of the ones killed by the reaver into itself however without souls it will "eat" raziel
almost right you see hen raziel fixes the blade the "Soul Reaver" turns back into the "Blood Reaver" (i mean the physical sword) meaning it can only drink blood. if you're referring to the "Wraith blade" coiled to his arm than your statement is right. (i couldn't tell what you meant)
I thing that isn't right. If Raziel turns the Soul Reaver into the Blood Reaver by absorbing his future soul in the blade, the Reaver wouldn't break in the future when Raziel meets Kain after his redemption.
The reaver has always been the Blood Reaver. Raziel when he is consumed unleashes the soul reaver making it a devourer of souls. The reaver that Kain possesses in Soul Reaver 1 is not the one William the Just used.
No, the Soul Reaver doesn't revert to the Blood Reaver when he repairs it. All Raz does is restore the blade, nothing more. His future self is still bound inside it (which is what drives the paradox that lets him spare Kain later) until it breaks against his arm in SR1.
I don't think it's the complte Soul Reaver here since the young Kain obtained it in Avernus (the sword was brought by the future Kain=> check the lost worlds about what was canceled in Defiance) while William was alrealdy using his own reaver.
Nah, one of the reasons that scene was cut from Defiance is because it's impossible. The Soul Reaver needs to be returned to the Sarafan strong hold 500 years before BO so that it can do whatever it needs to do between then and William getting his hands on it.
The scene was cut because they just could not finish the game in time. If the Old Kain bring the sword to Avernus it makes sense. When you fight William in BO, his sword doesn't have the same power as yours (killing with one shot only). That's the paradox I was talking about. William and Kain are living at the same time and are using the Reaver. The sword found in Avernus was not William's but the complete Reaver from Defiance.
There's no difference between the Reavers. The Reaver created at the end of Defiance is no different than William's. If Kain doesn't return the Reaver to where and when he got it from then there's no way for William to have the Reaver, and no way for it to be in SR2 for Raziel to heal it or to create the paradox that allows Kain to live.
So how do you explain that both the Young Kain and William have a Reaver? When Kain first met the Nemesis Legion at Willendorf, William was still alive and still using the Soul Reaver. The only explanation is that Moebius gave the reaver to William (I suppose since it's Moebius who made him conquer Nosgoth). IMO the developpers just forgot to explain what Reaver Kain's use in Defiance. I don't think it's the one at the end of SR2 or else could not have it later.
The Reaver that Kain has in Defiance is the Blood Reaver, the one that Kain pulled out of Raziel at the end of SR2. There's only one Reaver, the Reaver that William and Kain used in BO1 are the same one, just from different eras. Kain *must* return the Soul Reaver to the Sarafan Stronghold, from the same era he got it in, after Defiance so that both William and his younger self can later obtain it.
You misunderstood me here. I didn't say there were 2 reavers. I'm only refering to the one in Kain's hand in BO and the one in William's hand. If it is like you said. The Reaver is left by Kain in the Sarafan Stronghold, William got it. Alright. But how the young Kain could fin the purified Soul Reaver in Avernus while William was using the Blood Reaver? In your idea where does Kain's reaver come from? He can't be from William because he was still using it !
Young Kain doesn't have the purified Reaver, just the default Soul Reaver, and that's what William has. Young Kain found the Soul Reaver in Avernus because Kain takes it back to the Sarafan Strong hold and eventually William has it, then later it ends up in Avernus for Kain to find it in the future and go back into the past with it.
@Xyex No it is not the default one. The Young Kain's reaver devours souls. The Young Kain said it himself ! Until it has been purified by Kain and Raziel the Reaver only drinks blood.Don't you understand that Kain and William live at the same era? When came go back in time to kill William it was a jump of a few decades in the past, not centuries. Before that trip the Legion's leader was an older William called the Nemesis. In that case how the sword would end up in Avernus since William have it?
The Reaver never gets purified. Not the physical one, anyway. The purified Wraith Blade in Defiance goes into *KAIN* to purify and heal him. It removes his corruption, heals the hole where his heart was, and lets him see the EG. Raziel, without any augmentations, goes into the physical Reaver. The Reaver only drinks blood because Raz isn't in it yet.
As for BO1, the Nemesis simply no longer had the Reaver when Kain got it in Avernus. Moebius likely arranged for it to happen that way.
@Xyex So in your opinion the Nemesis just abandon his sword in Avernus just like that? Moebius probably gave the sword to William when he told him to conquer Nosgoth but Will surely didn't leave it later. (He was not one of Moebius's believers. He just trust him about the war he must do to Nosgoth)
We're agree about the sword. Young Kain's was the one with Raziel inside. But still, Will's sword drinks only blood and didn't have the power to kill a foe with one shot.
Moebius could have easily convinced him to hide the blade somewhere so that it couldn't be used against him. Who knows *why* he gave it up, all we know is that he must have. Kain states they both had the Soul Reaver and in SR2 the interaction between the Wratih blade and the one in the Reaver lets the blade be restored.
@Xyex I don't think he was that naive. Furthermore Avernus is really far away from the land of the Nemesis. You think Will'd have hidden such a powerful weapon that far behind his ennemies lines? It's stupid.
And If Will's sword is the Soul Reaver why did it have the same power has Kain's sword?
I just used hiding it as an example. It could easily have been stolen, for all we know. It clearly CAN'T be the Blood Reaver because 1) No Paradox would exist in his fight with Kain then and 2) We know the entire 'life span' of the BR. Janos has it, then Human Raz steals it, then Kain keeps it until it becomes the SR. There's no chance for William to get it.
Go to the boards at nogoth (dot) yuku (dot) com. I and the others there can explain it better without YT's character limit. >.>
@Xyex It is only true I you assume that Kain took the Reaver of SR2 ending with him. If Kain didn't take it, that Blood Reaver would come to William centuries later and Kain could use the repaired one in Defiance (they just forget to show he took it in SR2 like they did about the Heart of Darkness paradox in BO2). That way there is no problem in the time line.
First at the time of BO, Crystal Dynamics didn't think about time paradox. They brought that in SR2.
Kain *did* take the Reaver at the end of SR2, though. It's the only way he could have one, it's the only Reaver in that era. Besides, in the original timeline the BR became the SR at that point, 450 years before William ever got his hands on it.
No matter what history you look at it is impossible for William to ever even touch the Blood Reaver, let alone wield it.
@Xyex As I said he could have take the repaired one earlier. Kain knows he must respect the timeline by bringing the SR back so He'd not take the risk of taking the sword before William fulfill his role with it. It was safer to keep the repaired one that belonged to no one. But you got a point. The sword was clearly supposed to be transformed at the end of SR2. It makes sense about Moebius's plan for Will. However I hardly believe Will would leave his sword.
The repaired Reaver is 470 years ahead of the time that Kain is in, though. The only Reaver in the era Kain starts in in Defiance is the Blood Reaver that he just saved Raziel from.
The reason William gave up/lost the Reaver isn't really important, though. All that matters is that it got from his land down into Avernus for Kain to find it.
@Xyex Kain could have taken the repaired one right after Raziel destroyed the tomb with it. After that event we have no more informations about the repaired reaver and Kain was alone with it. He could have taken it all the way through SR2 (yeah I know we don't see it but as I said there are mistakes and blanks in the storyline so this could have been forgotten after all we don't see Vorador's bone sword either but he definatly has it !) and then used it in Defiance.
I know all about The Lost Worlds, been all through their stuff (and my own BO1 and SR1 discs, too). I've also been all through Dark Chronicle and Nosgothic Realm. I know most of the LoK history by heart at this point~
Working on novelizing the series so that requires a crap-ton of research.
Raziel was also supposed to get the Shift at Will ability in SR1, kill Kain at the end of SR1, and find the Spirit Forge in the lake outside the Sarafan Stronghold in SR2. Ideas come up and get scrapped all the time. Besides, even if they HAD shown Kain putting the Reaver in Avernus it would have been 500 years before Defiance that it happened, and that still would have allowed Moebius to give it to William.
wrong both reavers are the same but rom different time periods due to mobius cuz on was broiken the other used raziles oul to repair its self and if u aint olayed the last then i guess u would know but raziel is the soul reaver thats why it eats souls like he does
The Sword IS raziel. His Soul is sucked inside the blade. Then centuries later kain strikes raziel releasing raziel's captive soul back to his future self in the form of the wraith blade.
The reason why Moebius is so afraid of Raziel in this scene is due to the temporal paradox occuring at this moment; since due to time travel, there are two identical Raziel's in the same location.
In the LoK universe, history is predestined and there is no free will
However, as we learn later on, two identical entities in the same place will cause a time paradox and allow history to be changed.
Basically, at this moment, Raziel could have killed Moebius and completely screwed history over.
It would have been interesting to see what happened with Moe dying 30 years early. Kain's adventure in BO would have been vastly different, that's for sure. Though without Moe around it's likely Kain would have been killed by The Nemesis (no time streaming device to go back and kill William).
So long as his soul is still floating free, sure. But if Raz were to have devoured his soul after killing him that would be that, as we also so in Defiance.
Raziel came close to creating a rather interesting paradox. Raziel could kill Mobius and since he would do it with the SoulReaver it would consume his soul rendering the Elder God unable to revive Mobius. Taking Mobius out of the picture at this point would change a whole lot for the future.
WTF?? this make no sense... how did I never realize of this!!?? ... here we have Kain in a glaze fighting William... but how? this has not yet happen... Ariel still live in this age so even kain has bean not conceive... how could this be?
the background should ba a visual mark of the displacement between raziel and the reaver. if you wanna know youll have to read the theories down there^^
If his lower jaw was burned away in the lake of the dead, why does Raziel have the same level of jaw line as everyone else? Furthormore, what's moving under the cloak when he talks? :p
Sadly, Diefiance may be the last of the series. Some of the voice actors left Crystal Dynamics and the Soul Reaver rights were bought by another company.
hi ... can you pease answer me a question : i instaled my soul reaver 2 and then i went in to the game .. the game run but my screen turn black and purple and i cant see nothin . that is wier because the game run ...
Well, if you have Viesta, the newest OS to dell, it could be that. If a program isn't compatable with the OS, the program will mess up and not run properly or even cause a virus.
Pulasa and others! This is not OS, this is Video card. Shaders are the cause of trouble. You must disable them in registry.
First, you must run "regedit". Press "Start/Run, then type in "regedit" (without quotes). Then search for this: "HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cristal Dynamics\Soul Reaver 2\1.00.00\".
On the right you will see parameter "DisableVShader", set it to "1" (decimals, as far as i remember).
aaaaaaa mother, the raziel in one warrior exelent and good. the game soul reaver 1, 2 and 3 is verry good crystall dynamics and eidos missing the soul reaver 4...
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i think that the lyrics would go some \thing like this.
"bravly bold sir william, rode forth from nosgoth. he was not afread to die oh brave sir william, to have his kneecaps split and his body burned away brave brave brave sir william, his head smshed in and his heart cut his liver removed his bouls unpluged his nostrles ripped his bottum burned off and his..." well you get the idea.
One question though. After the Reaver is restored by Raziel in this cutsequence he uses both twin blades to threaten Mobius he drops the Soul Reaver(at 4:51)and continues on. How is this possible when he later pick up the Reaver(towards the end of the game)and finds he cannot let go of it because the two Reavers have been united?
At 2:21 - "But the reaver knew better then to destroy its host, and as I neared the brink of oblivion, released its hold on me." The second time, it doesn't cut him the same courtesy. This is how I've always seen it, anyway.
Oh yea now I remember-in the final cut sequence 'with all other foes destroyed the twin blades now turned themselves on me'. That was the third time he picked it up because after this he is handed the Reaver by Kain when he meets him in Williams chapel(and it vanishes after he sticks it into William's crypt).Thanks for that
Actually, the last time Raziel holds the reaver, his soul was not yet trapped in it, which is why he couldn't let go of it and why it ultimately devoured him. Or would have had not Kain intervened.
Ok, the Reaver that you see in William's chapel has Raziel's soul in it. The reason the Reaver Eats souls is because Raziel is spirit inside of it. When Janos handed Raziel the blade it was empty, the reason Raziel wanted to take it was because history compelled him to. He is destined to become to the Spirit inside the sword. Also, at the end of SR2 the blade, still ravenous, turned its hunger upon Raziel when Kain appeared and ripped it from him during a historical distortion.
I agree, history compelled Raziel to take the blade(and with no Kain to tell him so, he couldnt fight the urge). My theory is that when Kain shattered the blade, the (vampiric)spirit inside was released and Raziel chose to take the spirit as his weapon. However, by the time Raziel found the Reaver again, the spirit wanted to reunite but discovered that it had been part of Raziel for too long, and Raziel would die before it could detatch from him and join its physical form.
By being Raziel's symbiote for so long, it also become ravenous for souls(because at the time, Raziel was the Eldar God's Soul Reaper). It also may have fused itself,perhaps unknowingly, with Raziel's soul(thus found itself unable to sucessfully detatch without killing Raziel). The Reaver's spirit, may have lost hope of seeing its physical twin again so, perhaps, remained dormant as a weapon. When Raziel brought the 2 together though, the Spirit took control, hopeful of a rejoining its twin
I assume the 'displacement' Raziel felt when near the Reaver was the longingness of the spirit to be whole again. The blade Janos shows Raziel is unbroken, and has the spirit still inside it, so no displacement. In the Stronghold at the end, the spirit realises that the only way to join its twin is to pierce Raziel's soul itself, and so, once he has killed the Sarafan Raziel, it does so and would have been sucessful had Kain not removed the blade and taken it for his own. Thats my theory anyway.
Well. I did say it was a theory. Raziel's soul wasnt always part of the Reaver, and it just led me to believe that the point at which he did become its soul was when he took the wraith blade as his own. From that point on he was doomed to enter ther Soul Reaver. The Reaver itself was a vampiric blade, remember, Raziel (reborn)was the one who ate souls. Like Mobius said in Defiance:'In time, it may be safe to realease him...He "will" enter the sword'. This did indeed happen at the end of Defiance
I think the Blood Reaver's "Desire" for blood was magical instead of being derived from a spirit. When Raziel Entered the sword, he became the only spirit inside the blade.
one theory never revealed is what is raziel exactly, it seems he is the only "pure" soul able to skip the circle of fate. In defiance the soul reaver was forged even before raziel came into existence and we are left with this problem, how is that the vampires made the sould reaver originally.
The vampires never made the Soul Reaver. The vampires made the Blood Reaver to use against the Hylden as a super weapon to drain out their life blood and kill them. This was probably to prevent some kind of regenerative power or something like that. The Reaver (Sword only) was forged by Vorador at the request of Janos Auldron. After the blade was forged, it received serious magical enhancement to become a blood draining sword.
I think the reason is "embracing it's twin ,it's mirror self the reaver's long dormant spirit was now fully aroused and for the first time I fully felt it's presence willful ravenous and deranged from thousands of years of captivity" and "the reaver was no longer my symbiotic weapon but a sentient parasite competing for control and if I allowed it to become over aroused it would turn on me."
I think that reason he wasn't fully drained this time was because of the reaver only draining him (and possibly Dumah's soul" to repair the blade. At the end of the game there was nothing left for it to feed on when it regained its from being far enough away from moebius's staff as well as it being fully sentient then.
Well, the Reaver was devouring Raziel to restore itself yes. BUT, at the end of the game we revert back to Blood Omen one, where Vorador attacks the Circle of Nine while Malek is away. Malek is fighting Raziel at the time which allows Vorador to kill several of the pillar guardians. Anyway, I digress, the main point is that the Soul Reaver at the end of the game wasn't the Soul Reaver at all. It was the Blood Reaver that had not yet consumed Raziel's soul.
Also, at the end of the game; note that the wraith blade had been disabled by Mobius' staff. So Raziel was forced to use the blood Reaver on his former Sarafan Brothers. Pay attention to the Voice overs as well as the way Raziel kills off the Sarafan inquisitors. Their blood, not their souls, is drained from them. As I said, this was back in the time of Blood Omen part 1. Raziel was just a human back then.
I would like to see a game in times where Nosgoth is like the present, and vampires and the soul reaver are only myths to the citizens of Nosgoth. Where Kain is forced to blend in on city streets in order to fulfill his destiny. Where he has to feed carefully, and try to blend in. I think he would be a major CEO, or something, just so he would have the money and power in that century to do what he wants.
But that's just one thing that could happen. I'd be leased with another game at all.
GEhotpants101 7 months ago
why did raziel throw the physical soul reaver away lol?
fyckthissht 8 months ago
@fyckthissht Mainly as a plot device. but really, he has the ethereal reaver, what would he possibly need the physical reaver for?
juggalosqueaks 8 months ago
@juggalosqueaks i just don't understand why he chucks aside as if it is worthless. later on in the game he uses the physical reaver against his human sarafan brothers.
i never played the game so forgive me for not understanding. but why is it useful later on in the game when janos gives it to him and not now?
fyckthissht 7 months ago
@fyckthissht I think it's due to him being somewhat spooked by it from what he is saying. Plus he has the spirit reaver so why use the physical one? Raziel always was a strange fella lol.
SoulidiumHollow 7 months ago
@fyckthissht Mobius used his staff to disable Raziel's spirit reaver, leaving him with only the blade to use which is what Mobius had in mind
gengoodvibe 7 months ago
Anyone else notice when Raziel just flicks the top of Moebious's head @3:10 and the old fart stumbles away as if he backhanded him? Never laughed soo hard in my life at that part. xD
SoulidiumHollow 11 months ago 7
always wondered why Raziel didn't keep the soul reaver. He just left it. That blade would have been pwnsome
automaticlyill 1 year ago
Even if Kain kills moebius in Bo1 he is atemporal i think.Or he is in touch with all his versions from different timelines.The Reaver belonging to William was shattered in the fight with young Kain because he was armed with the Reaver infused with Raziel's soul.
Great videos Joudas.
Effigyq2e1m7 1 year ago
"Dont concern yourself with Kain old man, he'll join you in Hell soon enough!!"
jermzhi 1 year ago
this is how you do voice acting. poetic and brooding, high fantasy at its best.
gringolazlo 1 year ago
the best storyline
Dr4nz3r666 1 year ago
mobiueus is a fuckin fag. I wouldve killed dat asshole as soon as he finished beggin 4 his life.
cripbuddz 1 year ago
Eternity is relentless, Raziel .... :]
kuzeryukotsu 1 year ago
in blood omen william is hard to fight cuz he uses a soul reaver but u can beat him when u get a soul reaver too
k1l3r10 1 year ago
God, I hate Mobius so much. Just watching him regain his composure as he mentions the Elder, watching that horrible shit-eating grin crawl back just makes me want to punch him in the face at least a few dozen times.
Oh, if only Raziel had just killed him then and there. Granted, Mobius would've been resurrected one way or another, but still, that would have been so, SO satisfying to see.
DanTheManCalter 1 year ago 8
Moebius is in real serious danger here, this is one of the few moments in which Raziel can change history
NessDark 1 year ago
@NessDark raziel is stupid 4 not killing his bitch ass
cripbuddz 1 year ago
@cripbuddz as you are stupid 4 not stopping world war II
NessDark 1 year ago
@NessDark shut up fagget
cripbuddz 1 year ago
@cripbuddz u don't get it? i didn't really mean to call you stupid, i was showing how absurd it would be to call someone stupid for not doing something that couldn't possibly be done.
NessDark 1 year ago
@NessDark ur da idiot here!! haha. i posted that 2 hours before u posted your comment fuckface!!
cripbuddz 1 year ago
@cripbuddz doesnt make sense
NessDark 1 year ago
@NessDark yes it does u fuckin scrub. LOL
cripbuddz 1 year ago
@cripbuddz i wonder
NessDark 1 year ago
@NessDark dumbass
cripbuddz 1 year ago
@cripbuddz He would just be resurrected again.
mainkilla 1 year ago
@mainkilla how? and by who?
cripbuddz 1 year ago
@cripbuddz The God Raziel sees all the time.
mainkilla 1 year ago
the music in this series was on par with silent hill and zelda. incredible atmosphere.
enuvune 1 year ago
Just love how he flicks moebius on the head at 3:05 :D
TEHbioniclefan 1 year ago
love the narration it was great
BeyondThaDeepWoods 1 year ago
Ok i really don't get how William comes to have the reaver there on his coffin. Wouldn't Kain of taken it by this point in history? This William guy was the most hard to factor in. Did Mobius merely lay the reaver there for Raziel to come across or maby it was Kain?Kain has something to gain. I wouldn't understand how Mobius would have the physical reaver that Vorador forged. Help I am confused...Lol...:D
MaximvsDread 1 year ago
@MaximvsDread play blood omen 1 and u find out
k1l3r10 1 year ago
Got it. Can do.Thanx.
MaximvsDread 1 year ago
@MaximvsDread np dude
k1l3r10 1 year ago
Well what a amazing saga and story... It was nice talking about that but I'm a bit tired and I think we can debate about the whole storyline like this ! Thank you and see ya !
KingTeDdY62 1 year ago
And the sword is purified in Defiance by both Kain and Raziel when they visit each forge and they make the wraith blade and "physical" blade one once again. Raziel described it as purified from all corruptions. Kain can see the Elder God because he has the purified Soul Reaver in his hand. Kain's wound was already healed (he is undead as a necromantic vampire he needs nothing else than blood to do so). It's Moebius that saw the Elder God after being touched by the Wraith Blade.
KingTeDdY62 1 year ago
A person should not meet himself and it's the same thing for an item that is "unique" and that cause paradox in my opinion just like Raziel and Kain do
For example I think there was a paradox during William and Kain's fight permitting the Story to be changed by Kain's doing.
And I don't think those materials were deleted because it was bad ideas. They just never could finish their games. For example in SR2 Raziel was supposed to visit every Forges but it was canceled and he did that in Defiance.
KingTeDdY62 1 year ago
I must admit you're right about the repaired reaver. The one Raziel has repaired was from the timeline where Kain doesn't save him in SR2. But no Kain wouldn't be 500 years before. He could travel in time a few year weeks ago if his purpose is to give the sword to his former self. However there is a blank about Moebius and William indeed since we don't know exactly where and when Moebius took the sword for William.
But paradox could be caused by the uniqueness of people and items I think.
KingTeDdY62 1 year ago
And paradox are not caused only by the Soul Reaver. IMO with or without Raziel's soul the sword would cause a paradox if it meets itself because it is an unique sword. Just like the Heart of Darkness, as Janos's Heart, is unique and should have provoque a paradox in BO2 when Janos and the Young Kain met each other. There should also be a paradox when Raziel met his sarafan alter ego too...
My idea seems much more logical to me. But thanks anyway for the invitation.
KingTeDdY62 1 year ago
The paradox has nothing to do with 'uniqueness' and everything to do with the fact that Raziel has free will.
Xyex 1 year ago
You really think William after becoming the Nemesis would just toss away his precious vampire sword?
Nah it is more logical that Kain sure didn't use the Blood Reaver it took out of Raziel in SR2 but the one Raziel has repaired in William's tomb 500 years later. And then after Defiance Kain just left it in Avernus Cathedral so his former self could find it (In BO it is the purified sword. It devours souls and not blood !) It's the only way both Will and Kain could meet with the same sword.
KingTeDdY62 1 year ago
The sword Raziel repaired was the Soul Reaver, not the Blood Reaver.
Xyex 1 year ago
On the contrary I think it's the Sword that Raziel has repaired after William's death. Then that sword has been purified by both Kain and Raziel in Defiance and then was left in Avernus for the young Kain.
And the repaired Reaver could not be the purified one. Remember what happened when the purified reaver has hurt Raziel in SR1 : it has exploded because Raziel soul was already in it and so the Sword couldn't devour the same soul again. So how come Raziel could touch a purified reaver in SR2?
KingTeDdY62 1 year ago
There is no such thing as a "Purified Reaver" other than the Wraith Blade that Raziel gets at the end of Defiance.
Xyex 1 year ago
3 raziels in one room
ZeroShift5000 2 years ago
heyJoudas i never understand,,, one thing..raziel took William the Just soul reaver...but why did he not take... it... raziel soul was already inside the reaver blade...so raziel would;t not need worry it attacking him
so why did not raziel took William the Just reaver??
911planetearth 2 years ago
...whut.
UberRusty 2 years ago
Why would he need it? He's already got his own.
Xyex 2 years ago
5/5 great
11dBEST 2 years ago
This game gives me some memorable feelings..
Zoza15 2 years ago 26
Raziel voice is cool and acting great, story awesome
projectuseless 2 years ago 28
''My little blue assassin.''
XD
VipericVampire 2 years ago
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Wait. So, there were 2 Reavers? I know that one of them is the vampire Reaver, so the other is the knight Reaver, right?
And cus he had the knight Reaver bound to himself, the Blood Reaver attacked him, right? Or is it cus its appetite was too big and thus it attacked him? Man, that is just stupid. How can a sword have a appetite for souls? I know that Raziel is the one who eats souls, not the sword, but this time stuff is just too complicated.
supereldinho 2 years ago
at the end of this game, according to the original history raziel would be sucked into the blade and make it a soul devouring weapon. but kain stopped this from happening changing fate and making the plans of the hylden a reality
rida81 2 years ago
accidentally of course lol.
weewizard2 2 years ago
There is only 1 reaver. Kain obtained the reaver in Blood omen. Armed with the Soul reaver, Kain then traveled through time to 50 years in the past where he confronted william the just who had the same reaver (Just 50 years prior)
Movieman191 2 years ago
It's only one Reaver but from different timelines: Raziels' soul reaver (that spectral blade attached to his arm) and the original blade on Williams tomb. The final blade from the future has both the physical blade and Raziels sword so this is the historical moment when the sword was repaired (kinda of). Raziels' sword eats souls exactly like him to mantain itself.
EBTcraft15 2 years ago
I have just one thing to add. Raziel's "sword" is in reality his "hunger for souls". originally kain is supposed to die. due to his death he can't save raziel at the end. this causes raziel's soul to get sucked into the blade. this created the "soul reaver". When raziel repaired the sword he absorbed what was left of his soul that was in the blade. At that very moment he could have preformed an act of free will and killed Mobious. But of course the snake tricks him....
weewizard2 2 years ago
there is no knight reaver they are the same blade only from different points in time both of them contain the soul that gives the blade the power to absorb souls i guess you could say the reaver in raziel was "asleep" until now, now it's hunger is awoken so it will eat any soul it can however it is aware in eating its host it wont be able to consume ever again so it will steal any souls torn from the bodies of the ones killed by the reaver into itself however without souls it will "eat" raziel
doomsday12345 2 years ago
almost right you see hen raziel fixes the blade the "Soul Reaver" turns back into the "Blood Reaver" (i mean the physical sword) meaning it can only drink blood. if you're referring to the "Wraith blade" coiled to his arm than your statement is right. (i couldn't tell what you meant)
weewizard2 2 years ago
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yozkopf3000 2 years ago
I thing that isn't right. If Raziel turns the Soul Reaver into the Blood Reaver by absorbing his future soul in the blade, the Reaver wouldn't break in the future when Raziel meets Kain after his redemption.
LeDonPraes 2 years ago
The reaver has always been the Blood Reaver. Raziel when he is consumed unleashes the soul reaver making it a devourer of souls. The reaver that Kain possesses in Soul Reaver 1 is not the one William the Just used.
tmoneysn 2 years ago
No, the Soul Reaver doesn't revert to the Blood Reaver when he repairs it. All Raz does is restore the blade, nothing more. His future self is still bound inside it (which is what drives the paradox that lets him spare Kain later) until it breaks against his arm in SR1.
Xyex 2 years ago
@Xyex
I don't think it's the complte Soul Reaver here since the young Kain obtained it in Avernus (the sword was brought by the future Kain=> check the lost worlds about what was canceled in Defiance) while William was alrealdy using his own reaver.
KingTeDdY62 1 year ago
Nah, one of the reasons that scene was cut from Defiance is because it's impossible. The Soul Reaver needs to be returned to the Sarafan strong hold 500 years before BO so that it can do whatever it needs to do between then and William getting his hands on it.
Xyex 1 year ago
@Xyex
I agree about Moebius.
The scene was cut because they just could not finish the game in time. If the Old Kain bring the sword to Avernus it makes sense. When you fight William in BO, his sword doesn't have the same power as yours (killing with one shot only). That's the paradox I was talking about. William and Kain are living at the same time and are using the Reaver. The sword found in Avernus was not William's but the complete Reaver from Defiance.
KingTeDdY62 1 year ago
There's no difference between the Reavers. The Reaver created at the end of Defiance is no different than William's. If Kain doesn't return the Reaver to where and when he got it from then there's no way for William to have the Reaver, and no way for it to be in SR2 for Raziel to heal it or to create the paradox that allows Kain to live.
Xyex 1 year ago
@Xyex
So how do you explain that both the Young Kain and William have a Reaver? When Kain first met the Nemesis Legion at Willendorf, William was still alive and still using the Soul Reaver. The only explanation is that Moebius gave the reaver to William (I suppose since it's Moebius who made him conquer Nosgoth). IMO the developpers just forgot to explain what Reaver Kain's use in Defiance. I don't think it's the one at the end of SR2 or else could not have it later.
KingTeDdY62 1 year ago
The Reaver that Kain has in Defiance is the Blood Reaver, the one that Kain pulled out of Raziel at the end of SR2. There's only one Reaver, the Reaver that William and Kain used in BO1 are the same one, just from different eras. Kain *must* return the Soul Reaver to the Sarafan Stronghold, from the same era he got it in, after Defiance so that both William and his younger self can later obtain it.
Xyex 1 year ago
@Xyex
You misunderstood me here. I didn't say there were 2 reavers. I'm only refering to the one in Kain's hand in BO and the one in William's hand. If it is like you said. The Reaver is left by Kain in the Sarafan Stronghold, William got it. Alright. But how the young Kain could fin the purified Soul Reaver in Avernus while William was using the Blood Reaver? In your idea where does Kain's reaver come from? He can't be from William because he was still using it !
KingTeDdY62 1 year ago
Young Kain doesn't have the purified Reaver, just the default Soul Reaver, and that's what William has. Young Kain found the Soul Reaver in Avernus because Kain takes it back to the Sarafan Strong hold and eventually William has it, then later it ends up in Avernus for Kain to find it in the future and go back into the past with it.
Xyex 1 year ago
@Xyex No it is not the default one. The Young Kain's reaver devours souls. The Young Kain said it himself ! Until it has been purified by Kain and Raziel the Reaver only drinks blood.Don't you understand that Kain and William live at the same era? When came go back in time to kill William it was a jump of a few decades in the past, not centuries. Before that trip the Legion's leader was an older William called the Nemesis. In that case how the sword would end up in Avernus since William have it?
KingTeDdY62 1 year ago
The Reaver never gets purified. Not the physical one, anyway. The purified Wraith Blade in Defiance goes into *KAIN* to purify and heal him. It removes his corruption, heals the hole where his heart was, and lets him see the EG. Raziel, without any augmentations, goes into the physical Reaver. The Reaver only drinks blood because Raz isn't in it yet.
As for BO1, the Nemesis simply no longer had the Reaver when Kain got it in Avernus. Moebius likely arranged for it to happen that way.
Xyex 1 year ago
@Xyex So in your opinion the Nemesis just abandon his sword in Avernus just like that? Moebius probably gave the sword to William when he told him to conquer Nosgoth but Will surely didn't leave it later. (He was not one of Moebius's believers. He just trust him about the war he must do to Nosgoth)
We're agree about the sword. Young Kain's was the one with Raziel inside. But still, Will's sword drinks only blood and didn't have the power to kill a foe with one shot.
KingTeDdY62 1 year ago
Moebius could have easily convinced him to hide the blade somewhere so that it couldn't be used against him. Who knows *why* he gave it up, all we know is that he must have. Kain states they both had the Soul Reaver and in SR2 the interaction between the Wratih blade and the one in the Reaver lets the blade be restored.
William's sword was the SR, simple as that.
Xyex 1 year ago
@Xyex I don't think he was that naive. Furthermore Avernus is really far away from the land of the Nemesis. You think Will'd have hidden such a powerful weapon that far behind his ennemies lines? It's stupid.
And If Will's sword is the Soul Reaver why did it have the same power has Kain's sword?
KingTeDdY62 1 year ago
I just used hiding it as an example. It could easily have been stolen, for all we know. It clearly CAN'T be the Blood Reaver because 1) No Paradox would exist in his fight with Kain then and 2) We know the entire 'life span' of the BR. Janos has it, then Human Raz steals it, then Kain keeps it until it becomes the SR. There's no chance for William to get it.
Go to the boards at nogoth (dot) yuku (dot) com. I and the others there can explain it better without YT's character limit. >.>
Xyex 1 year ago
*nosgoth (dot) yuku (dot) com.
x_x
Xyex 1 year ago
@Xyex It is only true I you assume that Kain took the Reaver of SR2 ending with him. If Kain didn't take it, that Blood Reaver would come to William centuries later and Kain could use the repaired one in Defiance (they just forget to show he took it in SR2 like they did about the Heart of Darkness paradox in BO2). That way there is no problem in the time line.
First at the time of BO, Crystal Dynamics didn't think about time paradox. They brought that in SR2.
KingTeDdY62 1 year ago
Kain *did* take the Reaver at the end of SR2, though. It's the only way he could have one, it's the only Reaver in that era. Besides, in the original timeline the BR became the SR at that point, 450 years before William ever got his hands on it.
No matter what history you look at it is impossible for William to ever even touch the Blood Reaver, let alone wield it.
Xyex 1 year ago
@Xyex As I said he could have take the repaired one earlier. Kain knows he must respect the timeline by bringing the SR back so He'd not take the risk of taking the sword before William fulfill his role with it. It was safer to keep the repaired one that belonged to no one. But you got a point. The sword was clearly supposed to be transformed at the end of SR2. It makes sense about Moebius's plan for Will. However I hardly believe Will would leave his sword.
KingTeDdY62 1 year ago
The repaired Reaver is 470 years ahead of the time that Kain is in, though. The only Reaver in the era Kain starts in in Defiance is the Blood Reaver that he just saved Raziel from.
The reason William gave up/lost the Reaver isn't really important, though. All that matters is that it got from his land down into Avernus for Kain to find it.
Xyex 1 year ago
@Xyex Kain could have taken the repaired one right after Raziel destroyed the tomb with it. After that event we have no more informations about the repaired reaver and Kain was alone with it. He could have taken it all the way through SR2 (yeah I know we don't see it but as I said there are mistakes and blanks in the storyline so this could have been forgotten after all we don't see Vorador's bone sword either but he definatly has it !) and then used it in Defiance.
Check the link I gave you ;)
KingTeDdY62 1 year ago
Blah, my post disappeared. *Tries again*
I know all about The Lost Worlds, been all through their stuff (and my own BO1 and SR1 discs, too). I've also been all through Dark Chronicle and Nosgothic Realm. I know most of the LoK history by heart at this point~
Working on novelizing the series so that requires a crap-ton of research.
Xyex 1 year ago
@Xyex So you can forget that Kain was supposed to bring the SR in Avernus Cathedral at the end of Defiance.
KingTeDdY62 1 year ago
Raziel was also supposed to get the Shift at Will ability in SR1, kill Kain at the end of SR1, and find the Spirit Forge in the lake outside the Sarafan Stronghold in SR2. Ideas come up and get scrapped all the time. Besides, even if they HAD shown Kain putting the Reaver in Avernus it would have been 500 years before Defiance that it happened, and that still would have allowed Moebius to give it to William.
Xyex 1 year ago
wrong both reavers are the same but rom different time periods due to mobius cuz on was broiken the other used raziles oul to repair its self and if u aint olayed the last then i guess u would know but raziel is the soul reaver thats why it eats souls like he does
RENZOKURYUKEN 2 years ago
The Sword IS raziel. His Soul is sucked inside the blade. Then centuries later kain strikes raziel releasing raziel's captive soul back to his future self in the form of the wraith blade.
weewizard2 2 years ago 2
Best voice acting ever
kavkazip 2 years ago 6
Indeed..
Zoza15 2 years ago
Man, I just love the writing for this game.
SirDawkinsthemad 2 years ago 3
wats the music name in this. its soo cool
DARKS33KER 2 years ago
sarafan stronghold
magnawiz 2 years ago
the way raziel moved his head at 4:14 made me laugh so fuckin hard lol
willyesloco 2 years ago
3:12 made me laugh lol
willyesloco 2 years ago
I know nothing about this game but is there any chance of a next gen remake?
RadicalNoran 3 years ago 2
Doubtful. The first game was on PS1 and Dreamcast. The 2nd and 3rd on playstation 2. You could easily order them. I think they made them for PC also.
Definitely try to find them! One of the Most rewarding game to play ever made.
ArcanVmXII 3 years ago
No remakes, but they're coming out on PSN now~
Xyex 2 years ago
lol at 3:12 when raziel flicks mobius on the head makes me freaking laugh for some reason
cloudcutter81 3 years ago 4
lol yeah. first time i played this and saw that, i ended up laughing my way through the rest of the cutscene.
emptyandgray 2 years ago
i believe it has something to do with the appearance of two reavers that would be very interesting though.
sss145 3 years ago
The reason why Moebius is so afraid of Raziel in this scene is due to the temporal paradox occuring at this moment; since due to time travel, there are two identical Raziel's in the same location.
In the LoK universe, history is predestined and there is no free will
However, as we learn later on, two identical entities in the same place will cause a time paradox and allow history to be changed.
Basically, at this moment, Raziel could have killed Moebius and completely screwed history over.
VillageIdiots 2 years ago
It would have been interesting to see what happened with Moe dying 30 years early. Kain's adventure in BO would have been vastly different, that's for sure. Though without Moe around it's likely Kain would have been killed by The Nemesis (no time streaming device to go back and kill William).
Xyex 2 years ago
@Xyex
Remember what Defiance told us : Moebius can be ressurected by the Elder God.
KingTeDdY62 1 year ago
So long as his soul is still floating free, sure. But if Raz were to have devoured his soul after killing him that would be that, as we also so in Defiance.
Xyex 1 year ago
Raziel came close to creating a rather interesting paradox. Raziel could kill Mobius and since he would do it with the SoulReaver it would consume his soul rendering the Elder God unable to revive Mobius. Taking Mobius out of the picture at this point would change a whole lot for the future.
zod933 3 years ago
i wanna see the cutscene with the demons when the follow raziel from the sarafan era
Rocketracerman 3 years ago
Moebius has some rather freakish hands.
Panzermanathod 3 years ago 5
WTF?? this make no sense... how did I never realize of this!!?? ... here we have Kain in a glaze fighting William... but how? this has not yet happen... Ariel still live in this age so even kain has bean not conceive... how could this be?
Phovoz 3 years ago
But you forget, Kain went back in time to fight William.
emperoralexanderwems 3 years ago
yes, i remember that about 3 minutes later of posting ¬¬ this game seens to be perfect
Phovoz 3 years ago
Actually these events happened on the day kain was born, and of ariel's death.
papapapa16 2 years ago
the timestreams of the game are so much more better as the bible ^^
sauersouce 3 years ago
Man, I LOVE Legacy of Kain. But I doubt I'll ever get over Moebius saying "My little blue assassin." XD
GregorytheImpaler 3 years ago 4
wtf is wrong with the background??
and stop with your filozofies, they are annoying and everybody knows already this what youre saying. so shut the fuck up
Iceberqe 4 years ago
the background should ba a visual mark of the displacement between raziel and the reaver. if you wanna know youll have to read the theories down there^^
neverminder666 4 years ago
Has anyone ever asked Moebius to check if he has cancer? *wink wink*
IrkenTrad 4 years ago 2
"Raziel! I beg you to stay your hand!"
I love this dialog.
Great Series.
Mhendeb 4 years ago
damn mobeus is a slick talker
xoxgodofgodsgodxx 4 years ago
"You almost had me, my little blue assassin"
lol moebius is funny
rencrow 4 years ago
i love this game, and raziel's voice ! :)
RazielKain10 4 years ago 4
I have the game and its not easy...
Quenstikstudios 4 years ago 3
raziel speaks telepathicaly... his eyes are ment to flash when he is talking but i guess graphics werent up to the standard back then
shinwutheoriginal 4 years ago 3
where did you hear that?
Turel12399 4 years ago
how the hell can razel talk?his jaw was bend away in the lake of the dead.lol
TheLastWindUltima 4 years ago
I always wondered about that too. XD
CidSilverWing 4 years ago
thats why he needs the cape loking thing on his face
guzarche3 4 years ago
he got flicked!!!!!!
...XD..XD..XD
plaspas 4 years ago 3
I know, that made my night!
jazzknh 3 years ago
sounds goofy but i think is like a ghost jaw...lol
bronks12000 4 years ago
If his lower jaw was burned away in the lake of the dead, why does Raziel have the same level of jaw line as everyone else? Furthormore, what's moving under the cloak when he talks? :p
Zataku 4 years ago
Michal bell rule
geeklord1 4 years ago 3
i love this game this was my first game i ever play soul reaver one
and 2
nickpollitt4 4 years ago
AT LAST MY GAME RUNS THANKS EVERYBODY
pulasa 4 years ago
Sadly, Diefiance may be the last of the series. Some of the voice actors left Crystal Dynamics and the Soul Reaver rights were bought by another company.
TwilightKitsune89 4 years ago
hi ... can you pease answer me a question : i instaled my soul reaver 2 and then i went in to the game .. the game run but my screen turn black and purple and i cant see nothin . that is wier because the game run ...
can you help me ?? thanks
pulasa 4 years ago
its probably your OS ((Operating System)), what OS do you have?
TwilightKitsune89 4 years ago
no is not op sistem i think is may video hard
pulasa 4 years ago
Well, if you have Viesta, the newest OS to dell, it could be that. If a program isn't compatable with the OS, the program will mess up and not run properly or even cause a virus.
TwilightKitsune89 4 years ago
Pulasa and others! This is not OS, this is Video card. Shaders are the cause of trouble. You must disable them in registry.
First, you must run "regedit". Press "Start/Run, then type in "regedit" (without quotes). Then search for this: "HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cristal Dynamics\Soul Reaver 2\1.00.00\".
On the right you will see parameter "DisableVShader", set it to "1" (decimals, as far as i remember).
That is all, dismissed!
Oh, and correct me if i am wrong.
DallasXIII 4 years ago
Not to mention that they no longer have Amy's help.
KayaDC 4 years ago
Amy Hennig is one of the best directors of all time (she wrote the script for these tale 2) I hope she writes other stories even if LoK has to end.
Orumon27 4 years ago
She did already. It called "Uncharted: Drake's Fortune".
DallasXIII 4 years ago
Hahaha! He got flicked! ^__^
KayaDC 4 years ago 2
aaaaaaa mother, the raziel in one warrior exelent and good. the game soul reaver 1, 2 and 3 is verry good crystall dynamics and eidos missing the soul reaver 4...
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Heheheh... You remember in Monty Python's The Holy Grail when they were singing about Sir Robin. Lets replace that with Sir William.
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tyrannosauridae 4 years ago
mobius has HUGE hands, and its funny how raziel flicks his head a 3:09
sharpstown08 4 years ago 2
Moebius is the best actor ever. He deserves the oscar for sure.
EchhiGuy 4 years ago
haha hilarious ! Razzie flicked that douchebag >3
JakRin777 4 years ago 2
but raziel and the soul reaver are like the same thing
jex222 4 years ago
One question though. After the Reaver is restored by Raziel in this cutsequence he uses both twin blades to threaten Mobius he drops the Soul Reaver(at 4:51)and continues on. How is this possible when he later pick up the Reaver(towards the end of the game)and finds he cannot let go of it because the two Reavers have been united?
Serpentotia 4 years ago
At 2:21 - "But the reaver knew better then to destroy its host, and as I neared the brink of oblivion, released its hold on me." The second time, it doesn't cut him the same courtesy. This is how I've always seen it, anyway.
Joudas 4 years ago
Oh yea now I remember-in the final cut sequence 'with all other foes destroyed the twin blades now turned themselves on me'. That was the third time he picked it up because after this he is handed the Reaver by Kain when he meets him in Williams chapel(and it vanishes after he sticks it into William's crypt).Thanks for that
Serpentotia 4 years ago
Actually, the last time Raziel holds the reaver, his soul was not yet trapped in it, which is why he couldn't let go of it and why it ultimately devoured him. Or would have had not Kain intervened.
Azraelthe7th 4 years ago
:LOLSPOILERS:
Ok, the Reaver that you see in William's chapel has Raziel's soul in it. The reason the Reaver Eats souls is because Raziel is spirit inside of it. When Janos handed Raziel the blade it was empty, the reason Raziel wanted to take it was because history compelled him to. He is destined to become to the Spirit inside the sword. Also, at the end of SR2 the blade, still ravenous, turned its hunger upon Raziel when Kain appeared and ripped it from him during a historical distortion.
YOUSHOTME4S2 4 years ago
I agree, history compelled Raziel to take the blade(and with no Kain to tell him so, he couldnt fight the urge). My theory is that when Kain shattered the blade, the (vampiric)spirit inside was released and Raziel chose to take the spirit as his weapon. However, by the time Raziel found the Reaver again, the spirit wanted to reunite but discovered that it had been part of Raziel for too long, and Raziel would die before it could detatch from him and join its physical form.
Serpentotia 4 years ago
By being Raziel's symbiote for so long, it also become ravenous for souls(because at the time, Raziel was the Eldar God's Soul Reaper). It also may have fused itself,perhaps unknowingly, with Raziel's soul(thus found itself unable to sucessfully detatch without killing Raziel). The Reaver's spirit, may have lost hope of seeing its physical twin again so, perhaps, remained dormant as a weapon. When Raziel brought the 2 together though, the Spirit took control, hopeful of a rejoining its twin
Serpentotia 4 years ago
I assume the 'displacement' Raziel felt when near the Reaver was the longingness of the spirit to be whole again. The blade Janos shows Raziel is unbroken, and has the spirit still inside it, so no displacement. In the Stronghold at the end, the spirit realises that the only way to join its twin is to pierce Raziel's soul itself, and so, once he has killed the Sarafan Raziel, it does so and would have been sucessful had Kain not removed the blade and taken it for his own. Thats my theory anyway.
Serpentotia 4 years ago
Well, I kinda disagree here. At the end of SR2 and Defiance, we find that Raziel's soul was the soul sucking force inside of the Reaver.
YOUSHOTME4S2 4 years ago
Well. I did say it was a theory. Raziel's soul wasnt always part of the Reaver, and it just led me to believe that the point at which he did become its soul was when he took the wraith blade as his own. From that point on he was doomed to enter ther Soul Reaver. The Reaver itself was a vampiric blade, remember, Raziel (reborn)was the one who ate souls. Like Mobius said in Defiance:'In time, it may be safe to realease him...He "will" enter the sword'. This did indeed happen at the end of Defiance
Serpentotia 4 years ago
I think the Blood Reaver's "Desire" for blood was magical instead of being derived from a spirit. When Raziel Entered the sword, he became the only spirit inside the blade.
YOUSHOTME4S2 4 years ago
one theory never revealed is what is raziel exactly, it seems he is the only "pure" soul able to skip the circle of fate. In defiance the soul reaver was forged even before raziel came into existence and we are left with this problem, how is that the vampires made the sould reaver originally.
paku3 3 years ago
The vampires never made the Soul Reaver. The vampires made the Blood Reaver to use against the Hylden as a super weapon to drain out their life blood and kill them. This was probably to prevent some kind of regenerative power or something like that. The Reaver (Sword only) was forged by Vorador at the request of Janos Auldron. After the blade was forged, it received serious magical enhancement to become a blood draining sword.
YOUSHOTME4S2 3 years ago
I think the reason is "embracing it's twin ,it's mirror self the reaver's long dormant spirit was now fully aroused and for the first time I fully felt it's presence willful ravenous and deranged from thousands of years of captivity" and "the reaver was no longer my symbiotic weapon but a sentient parasite competing for control and if I allowed it to become over aroused it would turn on me."
6CTCEL 4 years ago
I think that reason he wasn't fully drained this time was because of the reaver only draining him (and possibly Dumah's soul" to repair the blade. At the end of the game there was nothing left for it to feed on when it regained its from being far enough away from moebius's staff as well as it being fully sentient then.
6CTCEL 4 years ago
Well, the Reaver was devouring Raziel to restore itself yes. BUT, at the end of the game we revert back to Blood Omen one, where Vorador attacks the Circle of Nine while Malek is away. Malek is fighting Raziel at the time which allows Vorador to kill several of the pillar guardians. Anyway, I digress, the main point is that the Soul Reaver at the end of the game wasn't the Soul Reaver at all. It was the Blood Reaver that had not yet consumed Raziel's soul.
YOUSHOTME4S2 3 years ago
Also, at the end of the game; note that the wraith blade had been disabled by Mobius' staff. So Raziel was forced to use the blood Reaver on his former Sarafan Brothers. Pay attention to the Voice overs as well as the way Raziel kills off the Sarafan inquisitors. Their blood, not their souls, is drained from them. As I said, this was back in the time of Blood Omen part 1. Raziel was just a human back then.
YOUSHOTME4S2 3 years ago
because the reaver here already had raziels soul in it, but towards the end of the game the sword did not have a soul in it. He was fusesing to it.
geeklord1 4 years ago
DAMMNN i Miiiiisss this gammee :(
Xploratio 5 years ago