I think its pretty amazing that with this car they have produce a car that is lighter then the car it replaces, maintains the AWD, and yet produces more power then before. 3,475 pounds is an impressive weight given the huge engine and big power, remove the AWD and you may shave off some 200 pounds.
Chinese owned Delphi that made this system for GM based it on an old russian patent which has been used in heavy industry since the 1940s. Sure its all clever and shit but why is it SO important for you guys to think that GM is the center of the world. That we all need GM for our tech. Christ.. This is SUSPENSION FLUID.. Not magic. Forexample Audi got their own magneride system. Is there really nothing else to get all excited over. Does it really need to get that nerdy ?
But my friend it's is the same with alot of the manufacturers, nothing new here! Renault/Nissan, Fiat/Chrysler, Ford/Mazda, GM/Opel, Volks/Seat, etc. It's very rare today that a big brands build 100% of their cars without externals influences. Really not just US thing here. I don't care if, here in Canada, the new Focus 2012 is more a european built with a Ford logo (still sold as a Ford). As long as it's good ;) And I doubt Ford in general don't claim money on that.
Christ... Ford Europe kept the RIGHTS for the Ford logo and Ford brand name when they SEPERATED from Ford america in the 60s. These are 2 completely different companies operating under completely different logos that happen to look exactly the same because in the 60s, Ford of America made so much money in the states anyway that they just didnt care. These ARENT american products and therefore produce hatchbacks/familycars like Europeans do instead of vans and trucks like american Ford.
@Janusha But I understand it my friend, don't need to swear (christ really lol). But even if they are 2 different companies it's sure that they have to pay for the right to use the same logo. Christ...it's same fucking logo, so you can't be totaly independant in term of benefits retribution. For God's sake Ford is Ford even is Ford euro or Ford USA. If not, what is the interest of the companies to use the fucking logo? maybe exposure? A And anyway who care, what euro/ford build isn't better.
They already OWNED the right of use for the Ford Logo and brand name for the European market. How they handled that internally... who the hell knows. But since the 60s these companies ahve been completely seperate. This isnt up to opinion or debate. However they both benefit from americans thinking all Fords are american as they prefer domestic products. Today they share dealerships. Thats about it. Also the Euro Ford Focus is replacing the american Ford Focus. Cause its.... better.
@Janusha Did the european make all Ford product? No. Oh yeah the new Focus and Fiesta, good work Europeans, I really think it. But you have to understand that people don't make a difference betwen an Euro-Ford and US-Ford. For them it's a Ford, simple has that. And it's not only Euro-Ford that benefits from the sucess, it's the all the fucking Ford brand! So, all in all it's Ford. We don't care here about the place were the car is design ;)
I dont give a fuck what frantically flagwaving bewildered fools choose to believe. Again this isnt about faith and belief. When you focus on actual reality. you know the world that we live in, European Fords are European cars and saying something else is just stupid bullshit and wishful thinking. But by all means. Go on. Invent your own world and live in it. If you dont like this one. Oh btw.. Who do you think made the Ford GT.
@Janusha Ford GT was a coalition of US and british engineering ;) Happy. I Understand that European Fords are European cars, but fuck face I'm not driving a European ford and I have nothing to complain. You play the wiseman but in an others hand you said shit about US cars and people who drives them. How wise and respectuous? There are thousand people on this earth that love US cars, so with your thinking they are all stupid? What are they thinking really.
@Janusha Oh, and yeah a guy who is buying a Viper is surely a poor redneck moron who doens't lives in the real world. Even many europeans love american cars, so they are also stupids and didn't understand anything. And you by all means. Go on. All US brands CIO should contact you because probably incarning the only truth. Anyway you're not able to think with some discernement. It's pathetic that you're thinking all that is made in US is shit. Don't write me anymore, you're a waste of time.
Im not on some quest to discredit US cars. They do that perfectly fine by themselves when they slap GM logos on Korean plastic and building cars in third world shitholes. What I speak out on is the ridiculous hype, wild claims and lies that seems to drive the entire US car industry. They arent built with the budget of Euro / Jap cars, they do not aim for upper markets. Its always "bang for the buck" Never quality. Why is it then a shock when they are cheaply built and arent as capable.
Nobody gets passionate over US cars today. There is no styling, craftsmanship or tech. People dont LOVE a budget hybrid. In USA there are still those that buy american out of patriotism and nostalgia. The rest buy them cause they are dirt cheap. GM makes most their money selling Korean cars to China and pickups back home.
You talk about me discrediting those that buy a Viper... Christ. Im talking about those that DONT buy a Viper. Which is everybody. Plenty of flagwaving and record claiming.
-but in the end Viper were down to 200 cars a year and died. Im talking about these wild claims. They market Cadillacs as better than BMW and Ferrari. Corvettes and Vipers are suddenly BEST IN THE WOOORLD after bullshit Ring runs.
But try and question any of that, then obviously its OMG... YOU HATE AMERICA !!!
What Im saying is.. If ANY of these wild claims were true. Why arent these cars international successes. Why is nobody buying them outside America where claims are all you need.
@Janusha It's funny how you see conspiracies everywhere.You talking about the Vette or Viper teams using pro drivers and high perfo tires like sportcup on the Nürburgring? Porsche or any others european supercars just have to do the same thing!? And if the Corvette or Viper are still making better times don't come cry like a little baby bitch. Furthemore, nobody said that Corvette or Viper are the best supercars in overall specifications.
@Janusha BUT hou have to give to cesar what is to cesar. They are making 100K+ cars that can handle the best of euro and jap cars very easly. We talking about just ONE thing here, performance. Understand that? Believe or not ;) And if they are so bad, why GT2 Team Corvette have such sucess. How you can explain that the Viper team was also fucking sucessfull in Europe in the early 2000? You said Europeans don't give a shit about US thing...heu yeah.
Conspiracy.. pff.. Its called marketing. Some marketing is more aggressive than others. Some rely more on complete misleading bullshit than others. Do you believe a Cadillac is better than a Ferrari 458 Italia? There are adverts out there that are telling us this is true. Porsche has had permanent test facilities at the god damn Ring for over 50 years. Surely they can do as they like in their own fucking backyard. This does NOT make the Ring some international benchmark.
Its amazing. We had the Ring now for nearly 100 years and suddenly american arrogant assholes come along claiming to OWN the place after renting the track for a weekend.
Tell me... What exact "records" do they claim to have broken. fastest cars? Not by a mile. Then tell me before you go forth with more bullshitting -
Tell me what are the official Ferrari lap times? Porsche? Aston, Koenigsegg, Lambo? THERE IS NO SUCH THING GOING ON AT THE GOD DAMN RING. Its all american marketing bullshit.
@Janusha I saw in my two years work trip many europeans fall in love with Corvette or for simple cars like the old chevy Berreta. Talk for yourself and your degrading opinions. About International sucesses, I repeat, how many low cheap european cars have a lot success in North American or even Australia? Not so many lol! Europeans also made fairly cheap cars that know one give a shit here in Canada or US. And North America it's not a tiny market for Europeans. Check the Jetta 2012...hish.
@Janusha Yeah maybe in Sout America they sell Peugeot or Renault, but know one have a fucking token there to by very expensive cars, US or Euro. So the greatness of euro cars it's pratically depend exclusively on very expensive brands like BMW, brands that sold to a tiny successfull elite in Europe or here. So, give me a break with "people who buy americans cars are poor people who don't have the choice". Fuck, in Europe 90% of people drive kinkane diesel cars who have nothing of greatness.
Haha I know USA is bankrupt but christ. BMW is what people ACTUALLY drive. Not a luxury thing.
Ive never said the god damn Corvette is shit.. Im just saying dont believe ridiculous marketing hype. If it REALLY was what ameircans like to tell us.. Why isnt there a single dealership in all of Europes 500 million people. Because we all "hate america" or because it isnt REALLY a Ferrari at half price. Its more of a plastic burnout machine. Fun Im sure but just isnt competitive.
Everything american is hyped to the skies. Especially now that Corvette is the ONLY decent car.
This idea that US cars are cheaper.. Sure. Because they import tax all foreign cars and has decided all imported cars are a luxury so they luxury tax them aswell. To push them up in price and out of market. STILL Euro cars dominate most aspects of the US market except pickups. Because thats the only market where US cars dont meet heavy competition. Nobody else makes cheap plastic trucks at that size.
@Janusha USA bankrupt!? LOL. Can we talk about Greece, Italia, Spain, Portugual, Irlande and Britain. A big part of Europe is on his fucking butt and you dare joking about USA financial issue, moron. Corvette is half the price of a Ferrari!? You live under a rock for how long. I can have a 3 or 4 decent C6 Z06 for a high perfomance Ferrari. Burnout machine!? Do you drive one and throw them in a corner. Probably not!
@Janusha I suppose you're like Jeremy Clarkson and thinking because you can handle the V8 LS engine the car can't turn. And found funny that the Stig, despite Clarkson bulshit about the car, did a better lap time on the test track with the Vette than with the R8 V10. It's was the same story at Top Gear USA with the ZR1 vs the Ferrari. Where is yours conspiracy here!!!
@Janusha BMW is what people ACTUALLY drive? Oh yeah!? Tell me were you live, it's probably a country were you found fairy and gobelin. I'm so excited!!! Again where you live? Are you frost? Please, not with me;)
@Janusha Since the C5, the Corvette his a International racing machine who can handle corners has well has they are fucking fast in straight. Finally, do you think a Ferrari California is so advance and well build compare to a Vette that the price tag is justified? Hahahaha, you make me laugh, you are so naïve!!!
@Janusha If you don't want to be identify as a hater, just act like propely and make some discernement. Fuck, have you ever drive Dodge, Ford, GM or Chrysler 2012 USA products. Probably not. There is nothing to be ashame here. Fuck, if you have the chance to drive a Z06 or Mustangs you will spit on them because it's not euro. You can be serious, really!? And please don't come with the fact that 2012 US cars are made with euro parts, it's the fucking same with euro cars made with japanese parts.
@Janusha We also don't give a shit if Cady, SRT8 or others USA products were not sold around the globe. And be greatefull that european brands can sold their pricy cars in North America, because without this market they will be relegate to obscurs and unsucessfull brands. Just check Lotus (with Toyota engines), Karma Fisker, Noble or others fucking unreliable brit or north european brands. Europe need more of the US market than US market need Europe or the world market to sell their sportcars.
@Janusha Because the North American market his self-sufficient to themself (+/- 300 millions). So, enough with your unilateral opinion about US and US cars. Just go fuck yourself and continue to dream about Ferrari while I will have fun with my C5 beating pretentious guy like you at my local race track. Stupid fucker!
Christ.. so much spam. This inability to accept criticism. This pathologic aversion towards any foreign influence is what landed america in this mess. Have you already forgotten how every single US car brand went bankrupt. How quickly we forget. I could go into detail on that and your economy if you like.. But obviously that would just become another flagwaving competition.
Haha if they are so self sufficient. How did they manage to bankrupt themselves. Amazing logic.
I will say tho. Whenever anything goes bad in USA, they always spend their time putting everyone else down. To make themselves look better. When Toyota passed GM as largest car company, instantly they were discredited in media with "unintended acceleration" amazing how that only happened in america and were cleared by NASA but the damage to their reputation was done.
Now that youre bankrupt, your media is full of European and Asian failure. Every day. How its all going to hell.
Well.. Even if all of grece caught fire and sunk in the ocean, they are only 10 million people and wont topple the entire European Union. Whats the new one.. Spain right. While Im realistic of their issues, I just came back from there. There are no abandoned cities, no trailerparks, no hunger, no rampant murders. In America 1 in 6 live beneath the international standards for poverty, 50 million people on foodstamps. More than the entire population of Spain. Go eat some more american cheese.
@Janusha We can go on and on lol. Romania, Croatia, Letonia, etc, etc. Europe is full of garbage country. It's funny that you focus on only one suggestion. Crap ;)
@Janusha Why if Greece is so not important for the european community, why they desperately trying to save this country by according payement rules or eliminated the debt. If Greece fall, Italia and Portugual may follow or have a rough time. The european currency will also suffer ;) Ever herad of domino effect? Don't bullshit me!!! You have nothing to teach to America (US and Canada) about financial issue. You're probably more in the piss and shit than I, so STFU!
Dude.. The US dollar is worth 40% less than it used to be. USA owes over 15 trillion dollars... If you think thats a trivial sum, they lost another 14 trillion in the financial mess. There is a word for entities that owes more money than they can pay over a forseable time? Its called bankrupt. We save Greece for the same reason we save our own people that have an accident. Countries in the Euro Union are socialist. The worst imaginable word to an american.
Which is why america still havent cleaned up New Orleans and has not rescued bankrupt Michigan and why america put their poor in prison instead of help them.
Try and name ONE american city or state that hasnt declared bankruptcy. Name three US built cars that sell abroad. Or fuck it... Lets try one. Name ONE internationally competitive car and you might have an arguement. Otherwise. What are you talking about.
In Europe well over 80% of people have no problem with evolution. Its not a topic, its just... Reality.
In USA however evolution is called a theory... branded "Darwinism" and generally dismissed as nonsense and personal opinion. This reality we all live in is accepted by around 14% of americans. Clearly faith, and belief has much stronger importance to you guys than empirical, testable facts. What you generally have faith in is your yourselves, the flag and your nationalism.
- Like you are doing right now. You dont actually have anything to say. You dont even have an actual criticism of what I said. You are just desperate to find an angle in which to discriminate me personally because you dont like that I said it... on behalf of your nationalism and your almost pathologic aversion torwards any foreign influence.
@Janusha Nope, i'm just tired of arguing with you, I can alwas reply back. You always use your personnal opinion a turn it like it was a general fact. I think your the only one guy that I discuss about cars or others things that will always focus on one thing and don't go on a more exhaustive comprehension. You think that your arguments about american economy makes me quiet? LOL. Just do an introspection man, you're just a bullshiter who think is clever.
@Janusha You don't realize how dumb you look after pulling that much bullshit out of your ass, but I hope you will someday.
No, I don't care a car's nationality. I don't know where you're getting that from. I've had two Chevys and both were assembled in Canada. I dislike a lot of American cars (probably the majority of them) and love a lot of non-American cars.
I'm an atheist, which says enough. Evolution is taught in biology here as a proven theory. Your "reality" is just media hype.
Frankly, your kind of mindset, which generalizes, assumes and stereotypes, is not only shallow and flatout dumb, but it shows how ignorant and irrational you are and completely dismisses your point.
Until you let go of your sadistic hatred of Americans and come up with some to-the-point arguments, please stop wasting everyone's time and shut the hell up.
I realise this isnt the scene for such statements. But when you start talking about reality haha. Yesterday I watched a huge debate where americans called "atheism" a belief system. The VAST majority of you bewildered flagwaving fools dont believe in reality. Your own presidents are afraid to take a standpoint on the matter for fear of losing the biblethumping majority vote. You cant sneak bullshit past me. Youre an atheist? Well... congratulations. What do you want. A medal?
Generalising is great. Its a good way to deal with the greater picture and not get stuck in needlessly nerdy discussions over shit like... whats the big thing for you guys now. Iron particles in suspension fluids huh? Hahaha. Amazing. This need to dive ever deeper into ridiculous details to find an angle in which US cars dont suck. So you can be all happy about that miniscule detail and forget that USA is down to 2 internationally competitive cars that ironically... dont sell internationally.
@Janusha You realize that this isn't the scene for irrelevant information? That's great. Why don't you spare the read then? Why should I give a fuck what Americans think? How does that relate to the cars?
You're really losing your shit at this point.
American sports cars are barely marketed at all internationally, so yeah, they don't sell as much as they do in the US. Does it matter though? I mean we're talking about V8 sports cars not Corollas and Camrys.
@Janusha PS. I don't want a medal, but I'd be glad if you just shut the fuck up alrady. Your verbal diarrhea was entertaining at first but now it's getting very repetitive.
It'd be interesting if you had two functioning brain cells capable of any kind of rational thought or at least perception, but you don't.
You're so brain-dead calling you a vegetable would be a compliment.
Such hostility from you flagwaving fools. I understand its a sore topic but really.
I certainly dont care for single models or where they come from. Christ america has their third car on its way to Mars. There is no reason to fail at cars on this planet. Euro sports cars are all about the modern tech, superior craftsmanship and styling. US performance on the other hand have different goals. They are cheaply built with big engines and appeals to patriotism and nostalgia.
It just goes wrong when you guys wave flags all over and CLAIM all kinds of shit. Reality just isnt enough for you guys. Its all about the hype, wild claims and myths. And when I poke holes in these, the answer is always the same OMG.. YOU HATE AMERICA!!! People leaping forth fist in the air in defense of the god damn constitution. Such hostility. No matter what what topic, its always frantic flagwaving and faith.
Look at your motorcycle market. Its the same thing there. Completely dominated by Yamaha, Ducati, Honda, KTM, Kawa, the list goes on. All making modern superbikes. While america has Harley. Nostalgia on wheels with saddlebags. When all other brands modernised and left them behind, Instead of spending the money on tech and research, americans played the good old patriotism card and branded all imports unamerican. It kinda works for Harley. But its just not competitive is it.
@Janusha Hahahahaha! Apple and orange here. The Harley's goal isnt necesseraly to build modern high tech bikes. For what? Competitive to what? Do you really think they gave a fuck!? It's just different, that's it. What is the fuck here!? Come on!
@Janusha Because it's like saying "all Europeans are gay" or "Chinese people are always bad at driving". It's just dumb. Honestly it just offends me, as a human being, that another human could be that simple-minded and irrationally hateful.
I wish your acid trip while watching sitcoms from the 1970s was true, and we had cars with giant simple engines that can be fixed with a hammer. But it's not. They're complicated like the rest, and mostly I4 and V6.
@Janusha I live in Canada not in US ;) Just do some recherche and check witch country did the better score with the International crysis ;) About the bankrupt thing you like all the others assholds you think it's just about the difficulty for americans to build quality cars. The reality my friend is WAY more complex that what you think. They also have to deal with external and worldwide financial issues that as nothing to do with cars industry. You're such a newbie and ignorants.
..... Wow.. These are issues every single car company in the world deals with every day without falling on their arses and going bankrupt. Ive heard all the excuses dude. You cant sneak bullshit past me.
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@AldiLover89 You think or you are sure? I invite you just to check the report about lambo reliability, and even today you will be suprise. And just for information, Audi never was a top reliable brand ;) Don't think because it have german parts that (Porsche is out of this) it's out of troubles. Just go watch the JD Power.
@Janusha LOL with your today you pretty much get what you pay for!!! Go check for example "Interesting view point between GM and Ferrari". You don't get for what you're paying for with Italian supercars or others europeans cars. There is no way a Lambo, a Ferrari or a Mclaren worth a 200 000, 300 000+$. There aren't 10 times more reliable, more luxurious, more advanced and more sporty than 50 000-100 000 cars. all in all you pay for the brand name, the prestige, thats it thats all ;) Respect.
There isnt a single thing worth comparing between a god damn GM and a Ferrari. For americans "quality" means will it start after 20 years in a barn. Not how good the actual car is. What you are talking about is the 80s. And guess what.. all cars were shit in the 80s. Perhaps this attitude towards technology, buildquality and modern styling is exactly why american cars went bankrupt and dont sell outside america.
@Janusha What make you believe in details that for example a today Vette is a cheap car or not well buil and will not start after 20 years? I believe that you know nothing about LS engine reliability and how well the car is build. For the american bankrupt and other thing you show me again your ignorance. Again, what make you think the american car industry rough time only depend on a false attitude. Ever heard of Buick in China, Ford in Europe and Australia or Opel/GM. Details plz ;)
@Janusha And i forgot, attitude towars technology you said? Just check the Chevrolet Volt and the Ford ecoboost. I suppose you don't think about it because it's not about super cars ;)
You people and your wild misconceptions.... A corvette is cheap because its cheaply built. Virtually unchanged for 7 years and kept alive by frantically waving flags and sprinkling it with patriotism. Such as faked Nurburgring lap times set with modified cars and full factory race crews. Same thing with the Viper that recently died because inspite of all the flagwaving, nobody actually bought them. Today Porsche outsells Corvettes in USA and sells another 120 000 cars.
-in the rest of the world where Corvette sells 0. You people slap import tax on foreign cars and have decided all imported cars are a "luxury" so you can luxury tax them aswell. Inorder to push them up market and out of competition with domestic brands. Its hardly fair game. A Corvette has the steering wheel out of a Chevvy Malibu and seats out of a mailorder catalogue. Squeeky plastic dashboard held on with paper clips. Im not saying its shit but just it shows their dedication to being cheap.
Im education in marketing / brand identity. Ive looked into this extensively and its always the same with americans. The US "knowledge" of cars and their position internationally is full of myth and misconceptions. Ford Germany and Ford UK went together in the 60s and formed Ford Europe. They retained the rights of use for the Ford logo and have since designed, built, marketed and sold their cars ENTIRELY without US influence. Today they only share dealerships. ONLY americans dont know this.
... Also your dollar aint worth shit anymore so naturally anything you buy from abroad WILL be more expensive. The real question is why cheap US cars dont sell abroad. True. Buic sells in China. Through heavy persuasion from Obama, US cars get special treatment over there. Their long term goal is to soon start shipping Chinese built squeeky plastic GMs back to america. And your Volt that was built on taxpayers money and was going ro revolutionise the US car industry.. Didnt happen did it.
@Janusha A little bit of teaching here. Some Ferrari and Lambo use GM electromagnetic ride (Corvette C5) and Getrag transmission simple techno in a way to make their car more reliable and sporty. And do you know what it's funny about that? What is funny is that Italians don't have any clue about that. They still think, that magnetic ride was a Lambo thing. They paid GM to use and modified them ;)
@Janusha Oh I have another story about european greatness to tell you. My friend bought a 2010 Volks GTI and we found that this model have engine mounts issue. So my friend And I went to dealer to replace to problematic part (a little piece 4cmx4cm). The volks guy ask us before it give us the piece if we know how costly it is. It was 110$ CAN!!! The guy was so suprised that it have to tell to all this co-workers how a steal it was. We check at the back of the peice and see the Audi sign...thief.
@Janusha All in all don't try to bullshit me about european greatness over american cars. I'm a french canadian who have the chance to works two years in France. I drove Peugeot and Citroën cars daily and I can assure you there is no way their cars are fucking better than any average americans cars. For the most, French don't drive Ferrari, BMW or Audi on a twisty roads, they drive shitty econobox full of rattles and blame interiors on boulevards. And I'm not talking about cars from the 60' ;)
@Janusha General statements here lol. Corvette like the Z06 or ZR1 have handbuilt engine and have very deep quality tests before the came out of the factory. I don't care if a Lambo, Porsche or Ferrari have a better plastic, full carbon part or even a "better technology" because at the end of line it DOESN'T make the car faster, more reliable and even more beautifull. I repeat, 300-400k for a Ferrari doesn't make the car better in general than a Corvette, Viper, Ford GT or a 911.
You also talking about patriotism like it was only a american thing. Ferrari in Italia is true cultural icon, just check the waving flag in F1 or others GT races ;) It's ok to be pround of our cars. Then, Americans should be pround that they make powerfull sporty beasts who are, for the most part, way more accessible for the average joe. No issue here.
Virtually unchaged for 7 years you said. Ok, why don't look a little bit closer at the Porsche brand. Porsches were slaves of their own design for about 30 years and cannot change it because they know that won't please to their fan base. My brother have a 2005 Boxster S and still look pretty much the same in 2012. And buy the way, I doubt they sold more 911 or high permofance Porsches than a base Corvette C6, what they sold in high quantity it's entry Posche, Boxsters and Standard Cayenne.
@Janusha Virtually unchaged for 7 years you said. Ok, why we don't look a little bit closer at the Porsche brand. Porsches were slaves of their own design for about 30 years and cannot change it because they know that won't please the fan. My brother have a 2005 Boxster S and still look pretty much the same in 2012. And by the way, I doubt they sold more 911 than a base Vette, what they sold in high quantity it's entry Posches, Boxsters and Standard Cayennes.
Amazing. I dont care for single models. I usually address the ridiculous myths, wild claims and bold lies that seems to be the entire fundation of the US car business.
I dont like Porsches either but that doesnt make them shit. They are among the top 3-4 brands in the world and are forerunners in innovation and technology. With 120 000 expensive cars sold a year, Its working out great for them isnt it. A Porsche looks like a Porsche for reasons of brand identity and heritage.
Christ.. You may not be american but you sure eat alot of american marketing hype. Lamborghini never used Magneride and nobody ever said they did.
Infact Magneride is a Russian patent from the 1940s used alot in heavy industry. Developed for cars by a company operating out of Bejing China. But since they were listed as GM subcontractors. every flagwaving fanboy claims we all rely on america for our car technology. Because thats how low the flagwaving masses are willing to dive inorder to-
-find an angle in which US cars arent shit. 1940s iron particle flud... Wow!!
As for speed... Porsche, Ferrari, Lamborghini all started doing 200 mph in the 80s and dont go any faster today because they are refreshingly unconcerned with ridiculous top speeds that you cannot actually use. Today speed and power are DECISSIONS not achievements. Whats changed since the 80s is buildquality, cratfsmanship, technology and styling. Which is exactly where america has a hell of alot of catching up to do.
Today there is hardly a single internationally competitive US built vehicle left.
Its not just supercars for the rich america DONT make. Its also GT cars, Sportsaloons, sporty SUVs, hatchbacks, hothatches, sportscars, track cars, superminis and certainly no executives. Infact nothing from BMW quality and up. Leaving that entire segment free for Euro cars to dominate. How they are unable to see this is a mystery to me.
Today US cars are what you buy when you cant afford what you actually want.
@Janusha BMW=Cadillac. Americans don't make high expensive sportsaloons or sporty SUVs (not cas with the Cadillac trucks, Cherokee SRT8, etc, etc) by choice. It's a question of ideology. They make cars or trucks almost for the mass, for the average joe who earn not alot. In general, they didn't build for pretentious guys. They made CTV-S or Corvette a pretty good price because they want that not only the fucking rich guys are able to afford them. Fuck, don't play the ignorants.
@Janusha Oh man, we can discuss all day!!! If you don't like Corvette or american cars to be general, don't like it. That's it that's all. What can I say to you? Your arguments aren't facts, they are only opinions were the only goal is to discreditated american cars. If a Jetta, a Mazda 6 or a Honda Accord are for you miles better than a Ford Fusion or Chevy Malibu I will terminated this discussion right now, anyway you hit a wall. I'm curious, what are you driving? Let me guess, a Ferrari!?
@Janusha Bullshit! Informe better yourself, today's lambo adapt the electro magnetic ride techno that what use on the C5. A take my information from independant car jounalists, not cars and drivers, road and track, Motortrend or wikipedia. And anyway, even if Russian came with "infact Magneride" it's sure that it's not the same old fucking 1940 technology that they have on the C5. Chiness invented canon powder but never use it like the european. See my point!
@Janusha First I didn't say that I don't like Porsche or european supercars, but I think their reputation are way too overated. They are good cars but they are not alone now (Lexus LFA, Corvette ZR1, the new NSX, GTR, etc, etc.) You said Porsche is among the top 3-4 brands? In what terms, in sporty term, in techno terms? Be more specific ;) If a Porsche look like a Porsche I can surely say that Corvette look like Corvette...dah.
I dont know all these sources of info you mentioned but its good that you dont take your info from Motor trend because they are the most one-sided protectors og american steel in the world. Like when they claimed the Mercedes AMG SLS was actually the next generation Viper stolen from bankrupt chrysler. A complete lie without a hint of facts. But because its Motor trend, every flagwaving fool quoted it for years. Search for it and you find millions of ameircan webpages all claiming it.
However. Its bullshit that the Lambo, Ferrari or anyone gets their god damn dampeners from GM. GM doesnt make them. Never did. Audi has their own system. Does it have to get that nerdy? Do we REALLY have to go down to dampener fluid to find something good in an american car? is there nothing else to get excited over? Mclaren and Lambo Aventador use a in-house pushrod suspension similar to F1 cars. This is documented everywhere. Not GM tech.. Unless you want to eat embarrassing american hype.
You arent discussing as much as you are spewing personal crap. Picking and choosing what to believe.. As if believing, having faith in things actually change facts. America is down to 1 internationally competitive vehicle that ironically dont sell internationally. Thats it. There isnt much more. If these cars really were all you guys like to tell us. Then why arent they international successes ? Because we all run around hating america? Or because reality is somewhat different from US hype.
@Janusha Blablabla. I never see a Noble, a Skoda or a Alfa Romeo have a International succes. So, what your point, a Cadillac CTV-S because it's not selling well in Brésil it's surely a bad car?! WTF!
@Janusha Anyway you are so full of hate a prejudices about american cars, America and americans in general. I'm tire of this and I'm not even from US. So, have fun mister ;)
@Janusha Did I talk about the Aventador? The infos concern the Gallardo (not sure, maybe the Murcielago) and the old Ferrari 456 GT. If you don't want to believe me it's your right. I'm done with you.
does anyone else notice he drove 2 aventadors, one with the regular, correct me if im mistaken, chrome rims, and the 2nd half hes driving one with black rims
i can't stand italians speaking english,it's unacceptable.. there are 5,not 5000,just five in all the fucking country that are able to speak english and they manage to look even dumber than what they actually are.. and i'm italian.
@derbigpr500 ahahahah,taci imbecille,sono italiano e qua NESSUNO parla inglese,tanto meno dopo le elementari... now,wanna keep on telling bullshit or you shut the fuck up?!...
@akirafactor Wow this is getting old, ignorant Americans not knowing that there is a second I in Aluminium in the ENGLISH DICTIONARY (FROM ENGLAND).... and if its like that in the ENGLISH DICTIONARY then it is the ORIGINAL way of spelling it.... You should REALLY look it up....
@akirafactor In America it WILL be written as Aluminum, but the proper way to say it is ALUMINIUM.... type in google Bauxite mining, and you will see Aluminium on the third result...
imaging pulling up in this it would be bloody murder you would pop so many virgin cherries
squatme15 10 hours ago
wow, a 13 page argument. i think thats a youtube record! on a sodding car review that neither person will ever drive of all things!
dujfraz 18 hours ago
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1918bibi 19 hours ago
Hey "EVO" ....where did you find these horny grandpas ? 5:17
WHAT A FACE ! HORROR ! :D
sahaja75 1 day ago
I think its pretty amazing that with this car they have produce a car that is lighter then the car it replaces, maintains the AWD, and yet produces more power then before. 3,475 pounds is an impressive weight given the huge engine and big power, remove the AWD and you may shave off some 200 pounds.
doc7000 1 day ago
Chinese owned Delphi that made this system for GM based it on an old russian patent which has been used in heavy industry since the 1940s. Sure its all clever and shit but why is it SO important for you guys to think that GM is the center of the world. That we all need GM for our tech. Christ.. This is SUSPENSION FLUID.. Not magic. Forexample Audi got their own magneride system. Is there really nothing else to get all excited over. Does it really need to get that nerdy ?
Janusha 1 day ago
@Janusha Nobody daid GM is the center of the world. Don't speak for us ;)
1918bibi 19 hours ago
I would eat my own testicle while it's still attached for this car. 100% serious.
suntem7 2 days ago 2
awesome felt every heart pounding moment this car is crazyyyy fast!!
Gmoneyluv4u 2 days ago
V12? MY GREATGREATGREATGREATGREATGREATGREATGREATGREATGREATGREATGREATGREATGREATGREATGREATGREAT GRANDMA HAS A STONE CAR ENGINE = V19
NOT JOKING!
ACTUALLY ITS A JOKE :D
SAMPKiller778 3 days ago
why go to a lambo review just to say how much lambo sucks? that doesnt make a lick of sense
dujfraz 3 days ago
@dujfraz
Some people just want to hate... anything.
Janusha 1 day ago
bigger galardo - nth mr
186Mikki 3 days ago
This car would get a one-eyed leper laid
kooj22 3 days ago 7
I could of sworn porn wasn't allowed on youtube
kooj22 3 days ago
My dream brought me here:3
TheNIGHTSKY30 4 days ago
94 bicycle fans watch this video
vikneo88 4 days ago
Welcome to Youtube where idiots argue about whose country builds the best cars.
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1918bibi 4 days ago
@CherryBlossomRed08 hello
Gucktmeinevideos 3 days ago
But my friend it's is the same with alot of the manufacturers, nothing new here! Renault/Nissan, Fiat/Chrysler, Ford/Mazda, GM/Opel, Volks/Seat, etc. It's very rare today that a big brands build 100% of their cars without externals influences. Really not just US thing here. I don't care if, here in Canada, the new Focus 2012 is more a european built with a Ford logo (still sold as a Ford). As long as it's good ;) And I doubt Ford in general don't claim money on that.
1918bibi 4 days ago
@1918bibi
Christ... Ford Europe kept the RIGHTS for the Ford logo and Ford brand name when they SEPERATED from Ford america in the 60s. These are 2 completely different companies operating under completely different logos that happen to look exactly the same because in the 60s, Ford of America made so much money in the states anyway that they just didnt care. These ARENT american products and therefore produce hatchbacks/familycars like Europeans do instead of vans and trucks like american Ford.
Janusha 4 days ago
@Janusha But I understand it my friend, don't need to swear (christ really lol). But even if they are 2 different companies it's sure that they have to pay for the right to use the same logo. Christ...it's same fucking logo, so you can't be totaly independant in term of benefits retribution. For God's sake Ford is Ford even is Ford euro or Ford USA. If not, what is the interest of the companies to use the fucking logo? maybe exposure? A And anyway who care, what euro/ford build isn't better.
1918bibi 4 days ago
@1918bibi
They already OWNED the right of use for the Ford Logo and brand name for the European market. How they handled that internally... who the hell knows. But since the 60s these companies ahve been completely seperate. This isnt up to opinion or debate. However they both benefit from americans thinking all Fords are american as they prefer domestic products. Today they share dealerships. Thats about it. Also the Euro Ford Focus is replacing the american Ford Focus. Cause its.... better.
Janusha 4 days ago
@Janusha Did the european make all Ford product? No. Oh yeah the new Focus and Fiesta, good work Europeans, I really think it. But you have to understand that people don't make a difference betwen an Euro-Ford and US-Ford. For them it's a Ford, simple has that. And it's not only Euro-Ford that benefits from the sucess, it's the all the fucking Ford brand! So, all in all it's Ford. We don't care here about the place were the car is design ;)
1918bibi 4 days ago
@1918bibi
I dont give a fuck what frantically flagwaving bewildered fools choose to believe. Again this isnt about faith and belief. When you focus on actual reality. you know the world that we live in, European Fords are European cars and saying something else is just stupid bullshit and wishful thinking. But by all means. Go on. Invent your own world and live in it. If you dont like this one. Oh btw.. Who do you think made the Ford GT.
Janusha 4 days ago
@Janusha Ford GT was a coalition of US and british engineering ;) Happy. I Understand that European Fords are European cars, but fuck face I'm not driving a European ford and I have nothing to complain. You play the wiseman but in an others hand you said shit about US cars and people who drives them. How wise and respectuous? There are thousand people on this earth that love US cars, so with your thinking they are all stupid? What are they thinking really.
1918bibi 3 days ago
@Janusha Oh, and yeah a guy who is buying a Viper is surely a poor redneck moron who doens't lives in the real world. Even many europeans love american cars, so they are also stupids and didn't understand anything. And you by all means. Go on. All US brands CIO should contact you because probably incarning the only truth. Anyway you're not able to think with some discernement. It's pathetic that you're thinking all that is made in US is shit. Don't write me anymore, you're a waste of time.
1918bibi 3 days ago
@1918bibi
Im not on some quest to discredit US cars. They do that perfectly fine by themselves when they slap GM logos on Korean plastic and building cars in third world shitholes. What I speak out on is the ridiculous hype, wild claims and lies that seems to drive the entire US car industry. They arent built with the budget of Euro / Jap cars, they do not aim for upper markets. Its always "bang for the buck" Never quality. Why is it then a shock when they are cheaply built and arent as capable.
Janusha 3 days ago
Nobody gets passionate over US cars today. There is no styling, craftsmanship or tech. People dont LOVE a budget hybrid. In USA there are still those that buy american out of patriotism and nostalgia. The rest buy them cause they are dirt cheap. GM makes most their money selling Korean cars to China and pickups back home.
You talk about me discrediting those that buy a Viper... Christ. Im talking about those that DONT buy a Viper. Which is everybody. Plenty of flagwaving and record claiming.
Janusha 3 days ago
-but in the end Viper were down to 200 cars a year and died. Im talking about these wild claims. They market Cadillacs as better than BMW and Ferrari. Corvettes and Vipers are suddenly BEST IN THE WOOORLD after bullshit Ring runs.
But try and question any of that, then obviously its OMG... YOU HATE AMERICA !!!
What Im saying is.. If ANY of these wild claims were true. Why arent these cars international successes. Why is nobody buying them outside America where claims are all you need.
Janusha 3 days ago
@Janusha It's funny how you see conspiracies everywhere.You talking about the Vette or Viper teams using pro drivers and high perfo tires like sportcup on the Nürburgring? Porsche or any others european supercars just have to do the same thing!? And if the Corvette or Viper are still making better times don't come cry like a little baby bitch. Furthemore, nobody said that Corvette or Viper are the best supercars in overall specifications.
1918bibi 3 days ago
@1918bibi youre a dumb fuck
GeezusFTW 3 days ago
@Janusha BUT hou have to give to cesar what is to cesar. They are making 100K+ cars that can handle the best of euro and jap cars very easly. We talking about just ONE thing here, performance. Understand that? Believe or not ;) And if they are so bad, why GT2 Team Corvette have such sucess. How you can explain that the Viper team was also fucking sucessfull in Europe in the early 2000? You said Europeans don't give a shit about US thing...heu yeah.
1918bibi 3 days ago
@1918bibi
Conspiracy.. pff.. Its called marketing. Some marketing is more aggressive than others. Some rely more on complete misleading bullshit than others. Do you believe a Cadillac is better than a Ferrari 458 Italia? There are adverts out there that are telling us this is true. Porsche has had permanent test facilities at the god damn Ring for over 50 years. Surely they can do as they like in their own fucking backyard. This does NOT make the Ring some international benchmark.
Janusha 3 days ago
Its amazing. We had the Ring now for nearly 100 years and suddenly american arrogant assholes come along claiming to OWN the place after renting the track for a weekend.
Tell me... What exact "records" do they claim to have broken. fastest cars? Not by a mile. Then tell me before you go forth with more bullshitting -
Tell me what are the official Ferrari lap times? Porsche? Aston, Koenigsegg, Lambo? THERE IS NO SUCH THING GOING ON AT THE GOD DAMN RING. Its all american marketing bullshit.
Janusha 3 days ago
@Janusha I saw in my two years work trip many europeans fall in love with Corvette or for simple cars like the old chevy Berreta. Talk for yourself and your degrading opinions. About International sucesses, I repeat, how many low cheap european cars have a lot success in North American or even Australia? Not so many lol! Europeans also made fairly cheap cars that know one give a shit here in Canada or US. And North America it's not a tiny market for Europeans. Check the Jetta 2012...hish.
1918bibi 3 days ago
@Janusha Yeah maybe in Sout America they sell Peugeot or Renault, but know one have a fucking token there to by very expensive cars, US or Euro. So the greatness of euro cars it's pratically depend exclusively on very expensive brands like BMW, brands that sold to a tiny successfull elite in Europe or here. So, give me a break with "people who buy americans cars are poor people who don't have the choice". Fuck, in Europe 90% of people drive kinkane diesel cars who have nothing of greatness.
1918bibi 3 days ago
@1918bibi
Haha I know USA is bankrupt but christ. BMW is what people ACTUALLY drive. Not a luxury thing.
Ive never said the god damn Corvette is shit.. Im just saying dont believe ridiculous marketing hype. If it REALLY was what ameircans like to tell us.. Why isnt there a single dealership in all of Europes 500 million people. Because we all "hate america" or because it isnt REALLY a Ferrari at half price. Its more of a plastic burnout machine. Fun Im sure but just isnt competitive.
Janusha 3 days ago
Everything american is hyped to the skies. Especially now that Corvette is the ONLY decent car.
This idea that US cars are cheaper.. Sure. Because they import tax all foreign cars and has decided all imported cars are a luxury so they luxury tax them aswell. To push them up in price and out of market. STILL Euro cars dominate most aspects of the US market except pickups. Because thats the only market where US cars dont meet heavy competition. Nobody else makes cheap plastic trucks at that size.
Janusha 3 days ago
@Janusha USA bankrupt!? LOL. Can we talk about Greece, Italia, Spain, Portugual, Irlande and Britain. A big part of Europe is on his fucking butt and you dare joking about USA financial issue, moron. Corvette is half the price of a Ferrari!? You live under a rock for how long. I can have a 3 or 4 decent C6 Z06 for a high perfomance Ferrari. Burnout machine!? Do you drive one and throw them in a corner. Probably not!
1918bibi 3 days ago
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1918bibi 3 days ago
@Janusha I suppose you're like Jeremy Clarkson and thinking because you can handle the V8 LS engine the car can't turn. And found funny that the Stig, despite Clarkson bulshit about the car, did a better lap time on the test track with the Vette than with the R8 V10. It's was the same story at Top Gear USA with the ZR1 vs the Ferrari. Where is yours conspiracy here!!!
1918bibi 3 days ago
@Janusha BMW is what people ACTUALLY drive? Oh yeah!? Tell me were you live, it's probably a country were you found fairy and gobelin. I'm so excited!!! Again where you live? Are you frost? Please, not with me;)
1918bibi 3 days ago
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@Janusha Since the C5, the Corvette his a International racing machine who can handle corners has well has they are fucking fast in straight. Finally, do you think a Ferrari California is so advance and well build compare to a Vette that the price tag is justified? Hahahaha, you make me laugh, you are so naïve!!!
1918bibi 3 days ago
@Janusha If you don't want to be identify as a hater, just act like propely and make some discernement. Fuck, have you ever drive Dodge, Ford, GM or Chrysler 2012 USA products. Probably not. There is nothing to be ashame here. Fuck, if you have the chance to drive a Z06 or Mustangs you will spit on them because it's not euro. You can be serious, really!? And please don't come with the fact that 2012 US cars are made with euro parts, it's the fucking same with euro cars made with japanese parts.
1918bibi 3 days ago
@Janusha We also don't give a shit if Cady, SRT8 or others USA products were not sold around the globe. And be greatefull that european brands can sold their pricy cars in North America, because without this market they will be relegate to obscurs and unsucessfull brands. Just check Lotus (with Toyota engines), Karma Fisker, Noble or others fucking unreliable brit or north european brands. Europe need more of the US market than US market need Europe or the world market to sell their sportcars.
1918bibi 3 days ago
@Janusha Because the North American market his self-sufficient to themself (+/- 300 millions). So, enough with your unilateral opinion about US and US cars. Just go fuck yourself and continue to dream about Ferrari while I will have fun with my C5 beating pretentious guy like you at my local race track. Stupid fucker!
1918bibi 3 days ago
@1918bibi
Christ.. so much spam. This inability to accept criticism. This pathologic aversion towards any foreign influence is what landed america in this mess. Have you already forgotten how every single US car brand went bankrupt. How quickly we forget. I could go into detail on that and your economy if you like.. But obviously that would just become another flagwaving competition.
Haha if they are so self sufficient. How did they manage to bankrupt themselves. Amazing logic.
Janusha 3 days ago
I will say tho. Whenever anything goes bad in USA, they always spend their time putting everyone else down. To make themselves look better. When Toyota passed GM as largest car company, instantly they were discredited in media with "unintended acceleration" amazing how that only happened in america and were cleared by NASA but the damage to their reputation was done.
Now that youre bankrupt, your media is full of European and Asian failure. Every day. How its all going to hell.
Janusha 3 days ago
Well.. Even if all of grece caught fire and sunk in the ocean, they are only 10 million people and wont topple the entire European Union. Whats the new one.. Spain right. While Im realistic of their issues, I just came back from there. There are no abandoned cities, no trailerparks, no hunger, no rampant murders. In America 1 in 6 live beneath the international standards for poverty, 50 million people on foodstamps. More than the entire population of Spain. Go eat some more american cheese.
Janusha 3 days ago
@Janusha We can go on and on lol. Romania, Croatia, Letonia, etc, etc. Europe is full of garbage country. It's funny that you focus on only one suggestion. Crap ;)
1918bibi 3 days ago
@Janusha Why if Greece is so not important for the european community, why they desperately trying to save this country by according payement rules or eliminated the debt. If Greece fall, Italia and Portugual may follow or have a rough time. The european currency will also suffer ;) Ever herad of domino effect? Don't bullshit me!!! You have nothing to teach to America (US and Canada) about financial issue. You're probably more in the piss and shit than I, so STFU!
1918bibi 3 days ago
@1918bibi
Dude.. The US dollar is worth 40% less than it used to be. USA owes over 15 trillion dollars... If you think thats a trivial sum, they lost another 14 trillion in the financial mess. There is a word for entities that owes more money than they can pay over a forseable time? Its called bankrupt. We save Greece for the same reason we save our own people that have an accident. Countries in the Euro Union are socialist. The worst imaginable word to an american.
Janusha 3 days ago
Which is why america still havent cleaned up New Orleans and has not rescued bankrupt Michigan and why america put their poor in prison instead of help them.
Try and name ONE american city or state that hasnt declared bankruptcy. Name three US built cars that sell abroad. Or fuck it... Lets try one. Name ONE internationally competitive car and you might have an arguement. Otherwise. What are you talking about.
Janusha 3 days ago
@Janusha You? Here? This isn't a Corvette video buddy, I think you got lost.
Seriously, you have a problem.
wildbloodydragon 3 days ago
@wildbloodydragon
You guys are crazy.. just crazy.
Janusha 3 days ago
@Janusha LOL. I guess regular people look insane to an insane person. Go figure.
wildbloodydragon 2 days ago
@wildbloodydragon
In Europe well over 80% of people have no problem with evolution. Its not a topic, its just... Reality.
In USA however evolution is called a theory... branded "Darwinism" and generally dismissed as nonsense and personal opinion. This reality we all live in is accepted by around 14% of americans. Clearly faith, and belief has much stronger importance to you guys than empirical, testable facts. What you generally have faith in is your yourselves, the flag and your nationalism.
Janusha 1 day ago
- Like you are doing right now. You dont actually have anything to say. You dont even have an actual criticism of what I said. You are just desperate to find an angle in which to discriminate me personally because you dont like that I said it... on behalf of your nationalism and your almost pathologic aversion torwards any foreign influence.
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@Janusha Nope, i'm just tired of arguing with you, I can alwas reply back. You always use your personnal opinion a turn it like it was a general fact. I think your the only one guy that I discuss about cars or others things that will always focus on one thing and don't go on a more exhaustive comprehension. You think that your arguments about american economy makes me quiet? LOL. Just do an introspection man, you're just a bullshiter who think is clever.
1918bibi 1 day ago
@Janusha You don't realize how dumb you look after pulling that much bullshit out of your ass, but I hope you will someday.
No, I don't care a car's nationality. I don't know where you're getting that from. I've had two Chevys and both were assembled in Canada. I dislike a lot of American cars (probably the majority of them) and love a lot of non-American cars.
I'm an atheist, which says enough. Evolution is taught in biology here as a proven theory. Your "reality" is just media hype.
wildbloodydragon 1 day ago
Frankly, your kind of mindset, which generalizes, assumes and stereotypes, is not only shallow and flatout dumb, but it shows how ignorant and irrational you are and completely dismisses your point.
Until you let go of your sadistic hatred of Americans and come up with some to-the-point arguments, please stop wasting everyone's time and shut the hell up.
wildbloodydragon 1 day ago
@wildbloodydragon
I realise this isnt the scene for such statements. But when you start talking about reality haha. Yesterday I watched a huge debate where americans called "atheism" a belief system. The VAST majority of you bewildered flagwaving fools dont believe in reality. Your own presidents are afraid to take a standpoint on the matter for fear of losing the biblethumping majority vote. You cant sneak bullshit past me. Youre an atheist? Well... congratulations. What do you want. A medal?
Janusha 1 day ago
Generalising is great. Its a good way to deal with the greater picture and not get stuck in needlessly nerdy discussions over shit like... whats the big thing for you guys now. Iron particles in suspension fluids huh? Hahaha. Amazing. This need to dive ever deeper into ridiculous details to find an angle in which US cars dont suck. So you can be all happy about that miniscule detail and forget that USA is down to 2 internationally competitive cars that ironically... dont sell internationally.
Janusha 1 day ago
@Janusha You realize that this isn't the scene for irrelevant information? That's great. Why don't you spare the read then? Why should I give a fuck what Americans think? How does that relate to the cars?
You're really losing your shit at this point.
American sports cars are barely marketed at all internationally, so yeah, they don't sell as much as they do in the US. Does it matter though? I mean we're talking about V8 sports cars not Corollas and Camrys.
wildbloodydragon 1 day ago
@Janusha PS. I don't want a medal, but I'd be glad if you just shut the fuck up alrady. Your verbal diarrhea was entertaining at first but now it's getting very repetitive.
It'd be interesting if you had two functioning brain cells capable of any kind of rational thought or at least perception, but you don't.
You're so brain-dead calling you a vegetable would be a compliment.
wildbloodydragon 1 day ago
@wildb
Such hostility from you flagwaving fools. I understand its a sore topic but really.
I certainly dont care for single models or where they come from. Christ america has their third car on its way to Mars. There is no reason to fail at cars on this planet. Euro sports cars are all about the modern tech, superior craftsmanship and styling. US performance on the other hand have different goals. They are cheaply built with big engines and appeals to patriotism and nostalgia.
And thats fine.
Janusha 1 day ago
It just goes wrong when you guys wave flags all over and CLAIM all kinds of shit. Reality just isnt enough for you guys. Its all about the hype, wild claims and myths. And when I poke holes in these, the answer is always the same OMG.. YOU HATE AMERICA!!! People leaping forth fist in the air in defense of the god damn constitution. Such hostility. No matter what what topic, its always frantic flagwaving and faith.
Janusha 23 hours ago
Look at your motorcycle market. Its the same thing there. Completely dominated by Yamaha, Ducati, Honda, KTM, Kawa, the list goes on. All making modern superbikes. While america has Harley. Nostalgia on wheels with saddlebags. When all other brands modernised and left them behind, Instead of spending the money on tech and research, americans played the good old patriotism card and branded all imports unamerican. It kinda works for Harley. But its just not competitive is it.
Janusha 23 hours ago
@Janusha Hahahahaha! Apple and orange here. The Harley's goal isnt necesseraly to build modern high tech bikes. For what? Competitive to what? Do you really think they gave a fuck!? It's just different, that's it. What is the fuck here!? Come on!
1918bibi 18 hours ago
@Janusha Please, go away ;)
1918bibi 19 hours ago
@Janusha Just, tell me were you from and what you drive.
1918bibi 18 hours ago
@Janusha Because it's like saying "all Europeans are gay" or "Chinese people are always bad at driving". It's just dumb. Honestly it just offends me, as a human being, that another human could be that simple-minded and irrationally hateful.
I wish your acid trip while watching sitcoms from the 1970s was true, and we had cars with giant simple engines that can be fixed with a hammer. But it's not. They're complicated like the rest, and mostly I4 and V6.
There's your fucking reality.
wildbloodydragon 15 minutes ago
@Janusha Words ;)
1918bibi 3 days ago
@Janusha I live in Canada not in US ;) Just do some recherche and check witch country did the better score with the International crysis ;) About the bankrupt thing you like all the others assholds you think it's just about the difficulty for americans to build quality cars. The reality my friend is WAY more complex that what you think. They also have to deal with external and worldwide financial issues that as nothing to do with cars industry. You're such a newbie and ignorants.
1918bibi 3 days ago
@1918bibi
..... Wow.. These are issues every single car company in the world deals with every day without falling on their arses and going bankrupt. Ive heard all the excuses dude. You cant sneak bullshit past me.
Janusha 3 days ago
94 dislikers have Bugatti
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HysTaRiCFiSHy 5 days ago
I am willing to sell my soul to the devil for this car.
pe6obutilkata 6 days ago
@pe6obutilkata thats because you do not know the value of the soul its like saying you would endd your entire existence now for one second of ppleasure lol because this lifetime is but a flash of eternity our true existence lol
dondee213 6 days ago
@pe6obutilkata actually worse a million times worse than ending your existence that cant be done lol never is conciousness dead wehn you sleep it is elsewhere thats all so if you want to live as satans servant by all means sell your soul but i truly say to you that your actualy desire which is covered by perverted material desires is to serve the supremem personality of godhead and he treats us much better because he loves us we are made from him so technically all sons
dondee213 6 days ago
@pe6obutilkata and yes i know it was a serious statment but i try never to pass up a opportunity to preach about the supreme hare krsna :)
dondee213 6 days ago
@dondee213 wasnt*
dondee213 6 days ago
im waiting for the aventador sv. my piggy bank is almost full :)
cardude1992 1 week ago
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Added 3 more Aventador videos to my channel if you want to see more of this amazing beast of a car! 1 Black and 1 white Aventador along with my Lambo Convoy video "Lamborghini's Blasting through Stop Light". Check em out if you like!
SotA1080 1 week ago
Poor old guy. In corsa mode = gear change/hip replacement gear change/hip replacement ........
IJunglist2010 1 week ago
Ohhhh!!!!!! Children please behave. This kind of wonderful machinery tends to awake all sorts of mixed emotions.: Envy being the ONE that comes up more often than not. The Cold hard truth is that this is an A W E S O M E car and pretty much way ahead of the competition as we speak. So DO NOT hate It.
hector69ize 1 week ago
2:57 you see that? That's a man who's earned the job title and the right to pop that collar. Take not douche bags
kswole008 1 week ago
those teeth are great
HugeRedneck7 1 week ago
@HugeRedneck7 Yeah laugh at our teeth, we laugh at your bellies!
meady200 1 week ago
@meady200 That's not fat,That's foreskin .
tracybuddha 1 week ago
car is good but the price is too low
vjngotjhyeu 1 week ago
xe này nhà anh có mấy chiếc..không có chỗ để phải ra bãi rác gửi..luôn =]]
vjngotjhyeu 1 week ago
700 HP, 200 000 euro and then come Italian reliability ;) keep it!
1918bibi 1 week ago
@1918bibi well its technically audi so i think it is indeed reliable!
AldiLover89 1 week ago
@AldiLover89 You think or you are sure? I invite you just to check the report about lambo reliability, and even today you will be suprise. And just for information, Audi never was a top reliable brand ;) Don't think because it have german parts that (Porsche is out of this) it's out of troubles. Just go watch the JD Power.
1918bibi 6 days ago
@1918bibi
Pff... reliability issues in supercars is a thing of the past. Today you pretty much get what you pay for.
Janusha 6 days ago
@Janusha LOL with your today you pretty much get what you pay for!!! Go check for example "Interesting view point between GM and Ferrari". You don't get for what you're paying for with Italian supercars or others europeans cars. There is no way a Lambo, a Ferrari or a Mclaren worth a 200 000, 300 000+$. There aren't 10 times more reliable, more luxurious, more advanced and more sporty than 50 000-100 000 cars. all in all you pay for the brand name, the prestige, thats it thats all ;) Respect.
1918bibi 5 days ago
@1918bibi
There isnt a single thing worth comparing between a god damn GM and a Ferrari. For americans "quality" means will it start after 20 years in a barn. Not how good the actual car is. What you are talking about is the 80s. And guess what.. all cars were shit in the 80s. Perhaps this attitude towards technology, buildquality and modern styling is exactly why american cars went bankrupt and dont sell outside america.
Janusha 5 days ago
@Janusha What make you believe in details that for example a today Vette is a cheap car or not well buil and will not start after 20 years? I believe that you know nothing about LS engine reliability and how well the car is build. For the american bankrupt and other thing you show me again your ignorance. Again, what make you think the american car industry rough time only depend on a false attitude. Ever heard of Buick in China, Ford in Europe and Australia or Opel/GM. Details plz ;)
1918bibi 5 days ago
@Janusha And i forgot, attitude towars technology you said? Just check the Chevrolet Volt and the Ford ecoboost. I suppose you don't think about it because it's not about super cars ;)
1918bibi 5 days ago
@1918bibi
You people and your wild misconceptions.... A corvette is cheap because its cheaply built. Virtually unchanged for 7 years and kept alive by frantically waving flags and sprinkling it with patriotism. Such as faked Nurburgring lap times set with modified cars and full factory race crews. Same thing with the Viper that recently died because inspite of all the flagwaving, nobody actually bought them. Today Porsche outsells Corvettes in USA and sells another 120 000 cars.
Janusha 5 days ago
-in the rest of the world where Corvette sells 0. You people slap import tax on foreign cars and have decided all imported cars are a "luxury" so you can luxury tax them aswell. Inorder to push them up market and out of competition with domestic brands. Its hardly fair game. A Corvette has the steering wheel out of a Chevvy Malibu and seats out of a mailorder catalogue. Squeeky plastic dashboard held on with paper clips. Im not saying its shit but just it shows their dedication to being cheap.
Janusha 5 days ago
Im education in marketing / brand identity. Ive looked into this extensively and its always the same with americans. The US "knowledge" of cars and their position internationally is full of myth and misconceptions. Ford Germany and Ford UK went together in the 60s and formed Ford Europe. They retained the rights of use for the Ford logo and have since designed, built, marketed and sold their cars ENTIRELY without US influence. Today they only share dealerships. ONLY americans dont know this.
Janusha 5 days ago
... Also your dollar aint worth shit anymore so naturally anything you buy from abroad WILL be more expensive. The real question is why cheap US cars dont sell abroad. True. Buic sells in China. Through heavy persuasion from Obama, US cars get special treatment over there. Their long term goal is to soon start shipping Chinese built squeeky plastic GMs back to america. And your Volt that was built on taxpayers money and was going ro revolutionise the US car industry.. Didnt happen did it.
Janusha 5 days ago
@Janusha Didnt happen? So. Is the Volt is the better electro car in term of quality on the market or not?
1918bibi 4 days ago
@Janusha A little bit of teaching here. Some Ferrari and Lambo use GM electromagnetic ride (Corvette C5) and Getrag transmission simple techno in a way to make their car more reliable and sporty. And do you know what it's funny about that? What is funny is that Italians don't have any clue about that. They still think, that magnetic ride was a Lambo thing. They paid GM to use and modified them ;)
1918bibi 4 days ago
@Janusha Oh I have another story about european greatness to tell you. My friend bought a 2010 Volks GTI and we found that this model have engine mounts issue. So my friend And I went to dealer to replace to problematic part (a little piece 4cmx4cm). The volks guy ask us before it give us the piece if we know how costly it is. It was 110$ CAN!!! The guy was so suprised that it have to tell to all this co-workers how a steal it was. We check at the back of the peice and see the Audi sign...thief.
1918bibi 4 days ago
@Janusha All in all don't try to bullshit me about european greatness over american cars. I'm a french canadian who have the chance to works two years in France. I drove Peugeot and Citroën cars daily and I can assure you there is no way their cars are fucking better than any average americans cars. For the most, French don't drive Ferrari, BMW or Audi on a twisty roads, they drive shitty econobox full of rattles and blame interiors on boulevards. And I'm not talking about cars from the 60' ;)
1918bibi 4 days ago
@Janusha General statements here lol. Corvette like the Z06 or ZR1 have handbuilt engine and have very deep quality tests before the came out of the factory. I don't care if a Lambo, Porsche or Ferrari have a better plastic, full carbon part or even a "better technology" because at the end of line it DOESN'T make the car faster, more reliable and even more beautifull. I repeat, 300-400k for a Ferrari doesn't make the car better in general than a Corvette, Viper, Ford GT or a 911.
1918bibi 4 days ago
You also talking about patriotism like it was only a american thing. Ferrari in Italia is true cultural icon, just check the waving flag in F1 or others GT races ;) It's ok to be pround of our cars. Then, Americans should be pround that they make powerfull sporty beasts who are, for the most part, way more accessible for the average joe. No issue here.
1918bibi 4 days ago
Virtually unchaged for 7 years you said. Ok, why don't look a little bit closer at the Porsche brand. Porsches were slaves of their own design for about 30 years and cannot change it because they know that won't please to their fan base. My brother have a 2005 Boxster S and still look pretty much the same in 2012. And buy the way, I doubt they sold more 911 or high permofance Porsches than a base Corvette C6, what they sold in high quantity it's entry Posche, Boxsters and Standard Cayenne.
1918bibi 4 days ago
@Janusha Virtually unchaged for 7 years you said. Ok, why we don't look a little bit closer at the Porsche brand. Porsches were slaves of their own design for about 30 years and cannot change it because they know that won't please the fan. My brother have a 2005 Boxster S and still look pretty much the same in 2012. And by the way, I doubt they sold more 911 than a base Vette, what they sold in high quantity it's entry Posches, Boxsters and Standard Cayennes.
1918bibi 4 days ago
@1918bibi
Amazing. I dont care for single models. I usually address the ridiculous myths, wild claims and bold lies that seems to be the entire fundation of the US car business.
I dont like Porsches either but that doesnt make them shit. They are among the top 3-4 brands in the world and are forerunners in innovation and technology. With 120 000 expensive cars sold a year, Its working out great for them isnt it. A Porsche looks like a Porsche for reasons of brand identity and heritage.
Janusha 4 days ago
Christ.. You may not be american but you sure eat alot of american marketing hype. Lamborghini never used Magneride and nobody ever said they did.
Infact Magneride is a Russian patent from the 1940s used alot in heavy industry. Developed for cars by a company operating out of Bejing China. But since they were listed as GM subcontractors. every flagwaving fanboy claims we all rely on america for our car technology. Because thats how low the flagwaving masses are willing to dive inorder to-
Janusha 4 days ago
-find an angle in which US cars arent shit. 1940s iron particle flud... Wow!!
As for speed... Porsche, Ferrari, Lamborghini all started doing 200 mph in the 80s and dont go any faster today because they are refreshingly unconcerned with ridiculous top speeds that you cannot actually use. Today speed and power are DECISSIONS not achievements. Whats changed since the 80s is buildquality, cratfsmanship, technology and styling. Which is exactly where america has a hell of alot of catching up to do.
Janusha 4 days ago
Today there is hardly a single internationally competitive US built vehicle left.
Its not just supercars for the rich america DONT make. Its also GT cars, Sportsaloons, sporty SUVs, hatchbacks, hothatches, sportscars, track cars, superminis and certainly no executives. Infact nothing from BMW quality and up. Leaving that entire segment free for Euro cars to dominate. How they are unable to see this is a mystery to me.
Today US cars are what you buy when you cant afford what you actually want.
Janusha 4 days ago
@Janusha BMW=Cadillac. Americans don't make high expensive sportsaloons or sporty SUVs (not cas with the Cadillac trucks, Cherokee SRT8, etc, etc) by choice. It's a question of ideology. They make cars or trucks almost for the mass, for the average joe who earn not alot. In general, they didn't build for pretentious guys. They made CTV-S or Corvette a pretty good price because they want that not only the fucking rich guys are able to afford them. Fuck, don't play the ignorants.
1918bibi 4 days ago
@Janusha Oh man, we can discuss all day!!! If you don't like Corvette or american cars to be general, don't like it. That's it that's all. What can I say to you? Your arguments aren't facts, they are only opinions were the only goal is to discreditated american cars. If a Jetta, a Mazda 6 or a Honda Accord are for you miles better than a Ford Fusion or Chevy Malibu I will terminated this discussion right now, anyway you hit a wall. I'm curious, what are you driving? Let me guess, a Ferrari!?
1918bibi 4 days ago
@Janusha Bullshit! Informe better yourself, today's lambo adapt the electro magnetic ride techno that what use on the C5. A take my information from independant car jounalists, not cars and drivers, road and track, Motortrend or wikipedia. And anyway, even if Russian came with "infact Magneride" it's sure that it's not the same old fucking 1940 technology that they have on the C5. Chiness invented canon powder but never use it like the european. See my point!
1918bibi 4 days ago
@Janusha First I didn't say that I don't like Porsche or european supercars, but I think their reputation are way too overated. They are good cars but they are not alone now (Lexus LFA, Corvette ZR1, the new NSX, GTR, etc, etc.) You said Porsche is among the top 3-4 brands? In what terms, in sporty term, in techno terms? Be more specific ;) If a Porsche look like a Porsche I can surely say that Corvette look like Corvette...dah.
1918bibi 4 days ago
@1918bibi
I dont know all these sources of info you mentioned but its good that you dont take your info from Motor trend because they are the most one-sided protectors og american steel in the world. Like when they claimed the Mercedes AMG SLS was actually the next generation Viper stolen from bankrupt chrysler. A complete lie without a hint of facts. But because its Motor trend, every flagwaving fool quoted it for years. Search for it and you find millions of ameircan webpages all claiming it.
Janusha 4 days ago
However. Its bullshit that the Lambo, Ferrari or anyone gets their god damn dampeners from GM. GM doesnt make them. Never did. Audi has their own system. Does it have to get that nerdy? Do we REALLY have to go down to dampener fluid to find something good in an american car? is there nothing else to get excited over? Mclaren and Lambo Aventador use a in-house pushrod suspension similar to F1 cars. This is documented everywhere. Not GM tech.. Unless you want to eat embarrassing american hype.
Janusha 4 days ago
You arent discussing as much as you are spewing personal crap. Picking and choosing what to believe.. As if believing, having faith in things actually change facts. America is down to 1 internationally competitive vehicle that ironically dont sell internationally. Thats it. There isnt much more. If these cars really were all you guys like to tell us. Then why arent they international successes ? Because we all run around hating america? Or because reality is somewhat different from US hype.
Janusha 4 days ago
@Janusha Blablabla. I never see a Noble, a Skoda or a Alfa Romeo have a International succes. So, what your point, a Cadillac CTV-S because it's not selling well in Brésil it's surely a bad car?! WTF!
1918bibi 4 days ago
@Janusha Anyway you are so full of hate a prejudices about american cars, America and americans in general. I'm tire of this and I'm not even from US. So, have fun mister ;)
1918bibi 4 days ago
@Janusha Did I talk about the Aventador? The infos concern the Gallardo (not sure, maybe the Murcielago) and the old Ferrari 456 GT. If you don't want to believe me it's your right. I'm done with you.
1918bibi 4 days ago
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@1918bibi well its technically audi so i think it is indeed reliable!
AldiLover89 1 week ago
@1918bibi it's 400k United states dollars..that's 300k euro not 200k.
PistolStar21 1 week ago
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Dear Child,
I want it too! So shut the F*ck up!!
Sincerly, Santa.
pe6obutilkata 1 week ago
hey nice popped collar fag. but an even nicer car.
Doughbodyboy 1 week ago
@Doughbodyboy u mad
JoSigurd92 1 week ago
@MrMrbobmarlin and kobe bryant
bmwlover0809 1 week ago
does anyone else notice he drove 2 aventadors, one with the regular, correct me if im mistaken, chrome rims, and the 2nd half hes driving one with black rims
bmwlover0809 1 week ago
@bmwlover0809 Seems like that. Maybe that's just a wheel change?
o3tomas 1 week ago
This is Cristiano Ronaldo's new car, a little gift he gave to himself :)
MrMrbobmarlin 1 week ago
This is actuaally such an ugly car
adamY2K 1 week ago
@adamY2K A month ago I thought the same thing. It's a Lamborghini, It's supposed to be like nothing else on the road today
JMCporsche 1 week ago
@adamY2K Nah you're wrong
TheArfdog 1 week ago
Nice. Now if only the host could get himself a comb and a nose hair trimmer.
ApexIXMR 2 weeks ago
i can't stand italians speaking english,it's unacceptable.. there are 5,not 5000,just five in all the fucking country that are able to speak english and they manage to look even dumber than what they actually are.. and i'm italian.
artamdelaroja 2 weeks ago
@artamdelaroja If you were italian then you'd know that everyone who finished elementary school speaks english.
derbigpr500 1 week ago
@derbigpr500 ahahahah,taci imbecille,sono italiano e qua NESSUNO parla inglese,tanto meno dopo le elementari... now,wanna keep on telling bullshit or you shut the fuck up?!...
artamdelaroja 1 week ago
@artamdelaroja Chill, dude, they don't have to know English
SATG87 1 week ago
@artamdelaroja aspetta le nuove generazioni..
cortegosopablo 1 week ago
That Guy looks like Jeremy Clarkson balding
Ridz2812 2 weeks ago
That's because it is A-Lu-Mi-Ni-um. Or do you also talk about Potassum, Uranum, etc?
tupolev141 2 weeks ago
What the hell is wrong with half of Europeans? Can't pronounce A-lu-mi-num.
akirafactor 2 weeks ago
@akirafactor The right way to say "A-lu-mi-num" is A-lu-mi-ni-um.... Aluminum is the "lazy" American way of saying Aluminium...
champion1642 1 week ago
@champion1642 No chump, there is no second i in Aluminum. Try to spell d-i-c-t-i-o-n-a-r-y.
akirafactor 1 day ago
@akirafactor Wow this is getting old, ignorant Americans not knowing that there is a second I in Aluminium in the ENGLISH DICTIONARY (FROM ENGLAND).... and if its like that in the ENGLISH DICTIONARY then it is the ORIGINAL way of spelling it.... You should REALLY look it up....
champion1642 1 day ago
@champion1642 How much you want to bet the factory that Bauxite ore went into said Aluminum on the sign.
akirafactor 1 day ago
@akirafactor In America it WILL be written as Aluminum, but the proper way to say it is ALUMINIUM.... type in google Bauxite mining, and you will see Aluminium on the third result...
champion1642 1 day ago
Only a DREAM!!! Beautiful car.......
jugerknott09 2 weeks ago
didn't realize Mr. Burns was in the automotive journalist industry.
SamuelDMurrell 2 weeks ago 2
im gonna need clean sheets after watching this video
brentzittel 2 weeks ago