Saw the filmed production by Fathom events, of the Melbourne, Australia cast of "Love Never Dies" and enjoyed it very much. I am so glad that it was filmed so that anyone who wishes can see this enjoyable musical since all the cynics panned it, for whatever reasons. You be the judge!!!!
Man I've listened to all the music so many times and just want the dvd to come out in Canada!! Now just to double check, on the dvd it's just the Australian cast right? No Ramin and Sierra? :(
I just wanted to update my post below about purchasing the show on Amazon UK. ONLY THE BLU-RAY VERSION WILL PLAY IN THE USA. The DVD is PAL Region 2 and won't play in the majority of DVD players here. However, you can purchase any Blu-Ray or CD from the UK and they will play just fine. So, if you have a Blu-Ray player, head on over and pre-order your copy if you'd like and get it early. Again, it releases on Blu-Ray on Amazon UK for about the same price - maybe a few bucks more.
@scootershmoo make sure you have a multi-region player if you do it this way. the u.s. and uk are different regions, so the dvd won't work on a regular u.s. player. blu-ray should be fine though
Just to make a correction about my post to purchase Love Never Dies early on March 12th from Amazon UK. This only applies to people purchasing the Blu-Ray version!! The DVD region code in Europe is PAL 2 and won't play here in the USA unless you have a special DVD player that can play DVD's from that region. All Blu-Ray and CD's will play just fine here.
Hey all you crazy Love Never Dies fans. Don't listen to the naysayers, the Australian Production is absolutely phenomenal. Nothing like the disastrous London production - not speaking of the cast though, the London cast were incredible. But those of you not wanting to wait until May to see the show on DVD.....go to Amazon in the UK online and order now for release on March 12th. They deliver to the USA - takes about 10-14 days. I order all of this stuff "early" from them. ENJOY!
The unfortunate thing is that people are way too precious about the original phantom to give this a chance. I am a HUUUGE phantom fan - and I have to say that I 100% feel that this show lived up to the expectations in EVERY way - I saw it just a few days ago (the Australian Production) - and it was phenomenal
@huka0104 I have said it before and I will say it again. If they take out all the references of phantom and just make it more of a freak show musical they can keep the whole thing just make it not about the phantom and such. It would have been a fabulous show.
The reason why LND closed in London wasn't because it was a bad show - In fact, it was a STUNNING show! The songs were gorgeous, the visual effects were ten times better than even Phantom's, the cast were amazing, and we FINALLY got to see the Phantom have a taste of happiness! But the story was just so appalling. Meg and Raoul were completely different people, the setting of Coney Island was just dumb, and Gustav being the Phantom's son was just too far fetched. It wasn't a sequel at all.
I'm suprised alot of people are nay-saying and decrying those that critique and outright despise the show. I am not a fan of LND, but I appreciate what it attempts. The simple fact is that LND destroys the heartfelt romantic characters of Phantom of the Opera. This is my opinion, I felt almost cheated that Andrew Lloyd Webber took the characters I have come to love to such dark depths, it feels almost like a betrayal of the first story. I think it is suffering from some George Lucas effect.
@Quilliant In some ways, I agree with you. Especially the Giry's. I love the Phantom and Christine love story in LND, but Raoul and the Giry's had a total character change from PotP, so much so that they're barely recognisable. I do, however, have to argue if you're going to be dissing the music. Love Never Dies, the song, is quite whiney, yes, but Beneath A Moonless Sky and Till I Hear You Sing are probably among ALW's best efforts.
At least there releasing a DVD of the austrailian show for the fans of it. My opinion is neutral I neither love nor hate it. I'm not a big fan ALW's phantom. It's beautiful yes, but there better versions out there. And I think he should have based the sequel on something other than Phantom of Manhatten. Look up what the Phantom Reviewer has to say on the book Love Never Dies was based off of I must say I agree whole heartily
OMNIGOD... I haven't seen LND, but I've rewatched this clip like three times by now! It looks amazing! The colors are ravishing, the orchestration is just... WOW, the acting is so fun, and it looks like it would be something worth seeing. :3
I don't think I've ever seen something so ravishing on a stage, plus the beautiful orchestrations by Webber... it's a shame that the story was such trash.
LOVE the "freakish" quality of this opening. Coney Island was the perfect setting. I wish they hadn't ripped off the whole "Carousel Waltz" theme and creating the carousel on stage as in Rogers & Hammerstein's "Carousel", but the spookiness of it helped a lot.
2 of 2 london was much more technically hypnotic sung by madame giry. what we see here the aussies have a whole nother take on the show, the whole show. it's been totally re imagined. so it's not the same london show whether you liked that one or not. lot of "haters" out there...
all i can say is some of you are really crazy. this opening number in the melbourne production is NOTHING like it was was in london. keep your strong opinions to urselves unless you've seen both to compare. as i compare london's opening to this productions opening...there is no comparison. continued........1 of 2
I want to dedicate a very special message to those who critiqued the show, resulting in it's closure. It's quite simple; chances are, you unfortunately are blinded by surface details of the shows you watch, and very superficially take part in the story. You are clearly not at all impressed by love, and your desire to pay bills outweighs your appreciation of those (like ALW) who TRULY give to people. From us Phans, and people who live by heart...... fuck you.
@OushGisher keep in mind though, les misérables was also critique badly casuing them to think of abandoning their show altogether. However as we know, the next week afterwards they had sold every ticket- much like love never dies. Personally i don't like the idea of the story but it is an amazing musical
@OushGisher Well, I like some things about LND, but hate alot of things. I would give it a 2 and a half or 3 out of 5 stars so...I'm sort of on both sides.
As it's own show, I believe it's as good as any other ALW show. However, to tie it on as a sequel to Phantom... it's not the same callaber, doesn't have the flow to be a sequel... And the original didn't NEED a "finisher"
Of course everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I, personally am not a huge fan of this show. I firmly believe that the original did not need a sequal and that if ALW were to make a sequal, there are so many better books he could have chosen from. However, the staging of this show is very beautiful and very magical. What made the original so sucessful was how the music would haunt you forever and this song, along with "Til I Hear You Sing", have that effect.
ALW sent me tickets to see this show, long story, and it was outstanding! I love org phantom dont get me wrong but this show had so much depth!!!! The actual staging and effects were really amazing!!!
I've been a skeptic of the staging of this show, and certain parts of the character development. I must say, this opening is absolutely mesmerizing in every way. I hope it comes to New York.
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If this Opening Sequence in Australia is any indication, I'm not surprised this fiasco died an ignominious death in London. Guess Spiderman's Broadway excesses have started an unwelcome trend.
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It's not wrong to be upset over a sequel which, in your eyes, tarnishes your characters. It's not a crime to want & try to expand the characters in sequels, but this show doesn't do ANY of the characters justice. It's also not a crime to be upset & angry at someone who only made the show to begin with to make more money off of a popular franchise; or do you not remember the Star Wars prequels? ALW was inspired by the love for his then-wife Sarah to make POTO, here, it was just money.
@LePhantomessa Whatever it was, for money or for love, it held great meaning and emotional power. People who can't feel that are too busy with their pre-arranged money-making critiques, or their obsessive nostalgia with the feel of the original story. I never cared much for Love Never Dies when just downloading the album and listening to it. Going to see the show was something different. I laughed, I cried, I was inspired. Give it a chance.
@OushGisher I have seen this show. It only inspired feelings of disappointment. Had the show been attached to any other name but Phantom, it might have been decent. Have a show about a young man who ran away to the circus as a teenager and became the manager, who is trying to recapture the heart of the childhood sweetheart he left behind who is married to another with a child, and this would've been an okay musical. But making this a sequel was a mistake, plain and simple.
@LePhantomessa (ctd) The performers had lovely voices and acted well enough, and the scenery and stage direction was impressive. The music is decent, as is the score. But the plot and general mood doesn't fit for Phantom. From the beginning in 1909, POTO has been a dark, gothic horror/romance/tragedy, with very little humor and an overall feeling of desperation, sadness and despair. I just can't see how songs like 'Bathing Beauty' or 'What a Dreadful Place!' fit into that niche.
@LePhantomessa Ah, btw I just noticed this post; sorry >.>
That I agree with; it is a bit of a departure from that original gothic/mysterious setting... I remember going to see Phantom for the first time and looking up at the shadows of the ceiling of Her Majesty's Theatre and imagining that a/the Phantom was there somewhere like in the story : )
Indeed I felt a difference, but Love Never Dies is also lovely just in it's own way... what do you think of scores like 'Beneath the Moonless Sky'?
@OushGisher Beneath the Moonless Sky was the only piece I felt that really fit into the POTO niche. It was perfectly written, describing the pull of two people into a passionate, overwhelmingly imperfect one-night affair where they touched upon the depths of their emotions and feelings for each other, before ending in heartbreak based on the anticipation of the past repeating itself. I think that it describes perfectly what would have happened between the two had it really occurred.
@LePhantomessa I agree. It was my favourite piece besides Til I Hear You Sing and Love Never Dies. Nowadays when the top songs on the radio are always about sex and alcohol... (i.e. hittin' duh clUUUb wit ma nigga nigga WHA? knocken up den HOOOES... etc.) it's a huge relief to find that someone out there still can describe the powerful emotions behind actually making love, when all feelings leak out of the inner world finally.
@LePhantomessa Or Love Never Dies... 'Til I Hear You Sing? Wouldn't you think that 'Bathing Beauty' (didn't like it either... lol) were just fillers which happened to be songs, similar to 'Like yellow parchment is his skin.......' in the first one?
Plus, I get this gut feeling that the Australian production resembles more of the original Phantom with a slight circus touch.
@OushGisher 'Like yellow parchment is his skin' was a direct reference to the original source material, Gaston Leroux's novel. In it, Erik is described as having skin as dry and yellowed as old parchment. As well, that song added levels of tension to the overall plot, showing how monstrous the Phantom appeared to the opera company, and foreshadowing the death of Buquet, which would be the catalyst to drive Christine into Raoul's arms. It had its place in the overall story in the end.
@LePhantomessa That's your opinion, which you're entitled to, as the multitude of us who like it us entitled to ours. Whatever you choose to focus on in the show is whatever you choose to focus on in the show.
The fact, however, is that no-one was ever asked to see this as 'THE' sequel. Even ALW stated that he wished for the musical to be seen as one of its own, that to him it's a stand-alone with some characters from Phantom (continued...)
@LePhantomessa This was an alternative continuation, and even I don't think of it as 'the' proper sequel... but even as an alternative continuation that didn't stop me from loving it. It really is just the feelings of attachment that are preventing you from opening up to LND. People believing that its existence will tarnish the Phantom is like someone hearing that spiders exist and having a panic attack because their existence may be tarnished from a spider bite at some point; (continued)...
@LePhantomessa ; in reality, there's nothing to be concerned about, really.
The fundamental fact, however, is that you simply do not call for the cancellation of a piece of entertainment just because it didn't satisfy you or it interfered with your emotional flow (not calling you 'emotional' to be an ass... we all get that emotional rush when seeing a musical we love, and that's a huge point of attending the act). Had it been a new taxation method or governmental healthcare plan, (continued)...
@LePhantomessa Then that would be understandable, because it could have negative effects on your way of life (it's a shame that negative reviews for shitty laws don't cause them to be overthrown, eh :( ). However, pushing for the cancellation of something that doesn't affect one on any way besides feeling that a form of entertainment to which he/she is really drawn has been given a wrong continuation is just inconsiderate of the feelings of countless other anonymous people who happen (continued)
@LePhantomessa To feel inspired by it, whether or not they find it to be a good sequel. Sure, there are some which are just horrible. Very few people liked the third 'The Mummy' film - there's too much wrong with it for me to post on here, when compared to the previous ones. But LND is quite 50/50. Many were still very much anticipating attending it for the first time, and now they can't because excessively nostalgic people got what they wanted.
@LePhantomessa (continued) If you dislike it, again, that's your choice. But if the people who gave it negative reviews all felt the same way, rather than just being emotionally poor idiots who get payed to attend shows and criticise all they can, actually all feel enough anxiety or frustration about the existence of an alternative story continuation, which is a very emotional and powerful piece of its own, then plain and simple, they need to find something else to make or break their lives.
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@OushGisher The phans who didn't want to see POTO's legacy tarnished in a way that the sequel to the fantastic musical took its plot from THE worst written POTO sequel of all time by Frederick Forsyth, in which Erik goes to New York, becomes a fish-gutting clown on the docks, opens a carnival on Coney Island, & worships a god of money. Th music for the musical is passable, the lyrics are mediocre, and while the stage effects are pretty neat, this was not the way to continue Phantom.
@OushGisher Can't link web pages here but go onto the Daily Mail website and search for "Love Never Dies. The first result "Love Never Dies.... But its Hurting" is the source.
@OushGisher the heartless people who made this fantastic show close in London were so called experts critic's of the west end theater, and its not the first time. When the original Phantom of the opera opened, the critic's faulted the production. but luckily for the original phantom the audiences reaction got it through to become one of the greatest peaces of musical theater the world has ever known, it just wasn't to be for the original production of love never dies.:(
I cannot wait to see this in US...if you are a true Phantom lover you will love it...at first I was upset...but the music is gorgeous. WHY WHY DID THEY CLOSE IT...IT WOULD HAVE DONE WELL IN USA!!!
@OushGisher Because the reviews in Broadway were so awful, it needed to be rewritten. Australia (Melbourne) got to test out the newly written version which was received way better than the original. It'll hit London soon now due to the success of the Australian version.
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First of all, the rewrites occurred in London and were in effect when it closed. The look of the show is the only thing that is different. It will sadly not come back to London. I think the DVD will happen and the show will disapear for a while and then resurface.
BTW- australia looks better, but London had way better actors.
@OushGisher i know right, love never dies is the best show that ever been to the west end and i wanted to see it, i heard that andrew lloyd webber got fined for painting the theatre black (even though its his own theatre) silly right
What a theatrical delight....except....that utterly unnecessarily conductor. Now tell me? Who was the idiot what thought for even one second that any paying audience (or casual YouTube viewer) wants to see some bloke wave his arms in front of a stage spectacle? Love the orchestras work on an aural level....but don't wanna see even a hint of them.... Gauche, distracting and indulgent.....get that conductor back in the band pit where he belongs. Wanted to chuck something at his head...sit down in
@CheyFunk21 While I agree it may have been a mistake on the part of the lighting designer to have the conductor lit at this point, what gives you the audacity to insult one the most important people in the entire production? That "bloke waving his arms around" is more important to the show than any of the leads. I respect your opinion, but you have to realize that there are better ways to share it than what you just did.
Nice, but I think the London version is better. Probably because it is more goth, steampunk, art nouveau, other cooler characters, a bigger budget and new mind-blowing stage technology.
Wow! I can't even begin to tell you how wonderful that was to watch! It was so creative! I loved it all, even though it was just the opening sequence!
Not sure I like this opening, musically, as much as the original version (as per the album), but the Melbourne production design certainly looks much more intriguing than the London version.
I have the soundtrack of LND and i listen to it all the time! I just saw Phantom in Las Vegas a few days ago and it was amazing!!! I really want to see LND As soon as it comes to L.A. :D i can't afford to see it in New York :P
Excellent production. Much better than the London version - i find the Australian production more colourful and vibrant even the pace is better. The only good thing about the London play is Ramin Karimloo (the best Phantom) but our phantom here is also good:) Kudos to LND Australia!
I seem to have found the type of music I like! The sort of major-minor keys. Point of No Return seems minor and then 'the final threshold' onwards is major and then at 'past' it goes back to normal.
I prefer the London version personally, the effects for the Coney Island Waltz are amazing. And without Mme Giry and Meg this just feels like a completely different show. I also don't like what they've done to Fleck, she's supposed to be half bird! if you can, go see it in London before it closes, it's better than this, no matter what Webber thinks.
@ScenemoSweetie Little peoples were a big attraction in those days. It would have been more realistic for Coney Island to feature one than a half-bird.
This spectacle is amazing and very tim Burton-esque. I love the costumes and scenery, but being a loyal fan of the original Phantom, I'm having a hard time accepting this musical was created in the first place.
Thank you soo much for posting this!!! I was sitting in the front row so I couldn't see everything in this scene properly, especially the people up there.
@chaumander1 Tell me about it! I was so naive thinking that the front row was the best place to see everything and I missed almost all the special effects from the play, not mentioning that the maestro was right in front of me. No wonder that the 4th row was more expensive than the first.
@tassilopes I was sitting to the side a bit so the maestro wasn't a real problem for me. Ending was pretty awesome for the front row except I was sitting to the left of the stage so Gustave covered my view at the very end. I was really pissed off at him. I hope the dvd is coming out soon.
I didn't notice missing any special effects just hated the stuff happening above the stage and the gustave thing. ???
I LOVE this version of Love Never Dies, but Ramin Karimloo and Sierra Boggess are better... If both of them were in this production it would be...just... wow, my head exploded...
i have seen the london show and i loved it. but this looks beautiful too. i will never see the australian version. but i am happy i have seen the london version as it was excellent value for money.i would gladly go to see it in the future again to.
@anrobvassallo Well, this will be the production they use for the UK tour and Broadway. Was wondering if they were reopening this on West End but I’m entirely sure they’re closing for UK tour.
@sonofstageandpage to be truthful my daughter was thinking of going to see love never dies in 2012 and i was to go with her to london. we come from malta and london is more viable for shows for us. and in all honesty we love the shows staged there. love never dies was incredible and sincerely i would like to see it again. hope it won't close. tks for your post.
Wow ... I really dont know what to say after seeing this! It is absolutely specatacularly done! But, really disturbing! gives me the creeps. I personally feel like they have taken the freak and circus theme way too far! London didnt have enough, and this has too much! But I think that those sets and costumes are absolutely genious and breath taking... just not suited for Love Never Dies!
@Megararocks I think it sets a great haunting atmosphere, the london version is fab but this is more haunting in my opinion and i love how theyve interpreted it x
saw this in sydney today and loved every second of it
sarahbell1973 8 hours ago
Saw the filmed production by Fathom events, of the Melbourne, Australia cast of "Love Never Dies" and enjoyed it very much. I am so glad that it was filmed so that anyone who wishes can see this enjoyable musical since all the cynics panned it, for whatever reasons. You be the judge!!!!
xnyrnkc 13 hours ago
its going to be in theaters in Stevenville Texas tomorrow
TheMusicRocks53 5 days ago
@TheMusicRocks53 Going to see it tonight at the Paradiso in Memphis! Sometimes this town has a little culture. =)
BTLemming 4 days ago
Man I've listened to all the music so many times and just want the dvd to come out in Canada!! Now just to double check, on the dvd it's just the Australian cast right? No Ramin and Sierra? :(
PrescriptionDrMcCoy 1 week ago
@PrescriptionDrMcCoy The dvd is of the australian production, so no sierra and ramin. the leads will be ben lewis and anna o byrne
kendrarussell 1 week ago
wicked
warjakeboy 2 weeks ago
the little person kinda scares me.... idk why she's just a little creepy
BroadwayFREAK01 3 weeks ago
@BroadwayFREAK01 to me, its creepy in a good way!!!!
multihappydayz 2 weeks ago
I like the Chorus. I guess that Andrew Lloyd Webber should do a movie, not a musical...
JoaoPhantomOfOpera 1 month ago
this scene to me has a very...Tim Burtonish feel to me.
DarkJoker7 1 month ago 5
@DarkJoker7 very true!! never saw th till you pointed it out!
BroadwayFREAK01 3 weeks ago
I just wanted to update my post below about purchasing the show on Amazon UK. ONLY THE BLU-RAY VERSION WILL PLAY IN THE USA. The DVD is PAL Region 2 and won't play in the majority of DVD players here. However, you can purchase any Blu-Ray or CD from the UK and they will play just fine. So, if you have a Blu-Ray player, head on over and pre-order your copy if you'd like and get it early. Again, it releases on Blu-Ray on Amazon UK for about the same price - maybe a few bucks more.
scootershmoo 1 month ago
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@scootershmoo make sure you have a multi-region player if you do it this way. the u.s. and uk are different regions, so the dvd won't work on a regular u.s. player. blu-ray should be fine though
scootershmoo 1 month ago
Just to make a correction about my post to purchase Love Never Dies early on March 12th from Amazon UK. This only applies to people purchasing the Blu-Ray version!! The DVD region code in Europe is PAL 2 and won't play here in the USA unless you have a special DVD player that can play DVD's from that region. All Blu-Ray and CD's will play just fine here.
scootershmoo 1 month ago
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Hey all you crazy Love Never Dies fans. Don't listen to the naysayers, the Australian Production is absolutely phenomenal. Nothing like the disastrous London production - not speaking of the cast though, the London cast were incredible. But those of you not wanting to wait until May to see the show on DVD.....go to Amazon in the UK online and order now for release on March 12th. They deliver to the USA - takes about 10-14 days. I order all of this stuff "early" from them. ENJOY!
scootershmoo 1 month ago
The unfortunate thing is that people are way too precious about the original phantom to give this a chance. I am a HUUUGE phantom fan - and I have to say that I 100% feel that this show lived up to the expectations in EVERY way - I saw it just a few days ago (the Australian Production) - and it was phenomenal
sgmarks82 1 month ago
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MrYouGabeTube 1 month ago
I think the way to make this show seem like the awesome show it is is NOT to look at it as a sequel but as something different than phantom.
huka0104 1 month ago
@huka0104 I have said it before and I will say it again. If they take out all the references of phantom and just make it more of a freak show musical they can keep the whole thing just make it not about the phantom and such. It would have been a fabulous show.
JRybkaWachhaus 3 weeks ago
The reason why LND closed in London wasn't because it was a bad show - In fact, it was a STUNNING show! The songs were gorgeous, the visual effects were ten times better than even Phantom's, the cast were amazing, and we FINALLY got to see the Phantom have a taste of happiness! But the story was just so appalling. Meg and Raoul were completely different people, the setting of Coney Island was just dumb, and Gustav being the Phantom's son was just too far fetched. It wasn't a sequel at all.
PassTheMarmalade1957 1 month ago
@PassTheMarmalade1957 oi!!! spoilers mate =[
PlasticAstroBoy 1 month ago
Pretty cool!
BooBop1987 1 month ago
the one thing that people must rember is that the london production had a competiy different look to the australian production
kilroy8989 1 month ago
CAN THE LONDON PRODUCTION COME BACK PLEASE???
GlindyUpland 1 month ago 2
This freaks me out :S impressive!
TheVildee 1 month ago
This version of LND is open. The London one closed and it was far less spectacular (set/production wise) than this Australian one :D
sausageyman 1 month ago 2
I'm suprised alot of people are nay-saying and decrying those that critique and outright despise the show. I am not a fan of LND, but I appreciate what it attempts. The simple fact is that LND destroys the heartfelt romantic characters of Phantom of the Opera. This is my opinion, I felt almost cheated that Andrew Lloyd Webber took the characters I have come to love to such dark depths, it feels almost like a betrayal of the first story. I think it is suffering from some George Lucas effect.
Quilliant 1 month ago
@Quilliant In some ways, I agree with you. Especially the Giry's. I love the Phantom and Christine love story in LND, but Raoul and the Giry's had a total character change from PotP, so much so that they're barely recognisable. I do, however, have to argue if you're going to be dissing the music. Love Never Dies, the song, is quite whiney, yes, but Beneath A Moonless Sky and Till I Hear You Sing are probably among ALW's best efforts.
ohmyrowling96 1 month ago
that set is amazing!
littlekym88 1 month ago
Much different from the version I saw in London, but it still looks phantastic! BRING THIS TO BROADWAY!
SecondBananaAddams 1 month ago
At least there releasing a DVD of the austrailian show for the fans of it. My opinion is neutral I neither love nor hate it. I'm not a big fan ALW's phantom. It's beautiful yes, but there better versions out there. And I think he should have based the sequel on something other than Phantom of Manhatten. Look up what the Phantom Reviewer has to say on the book Love Never Dies was based off of I must say I agree whole heartily
absintheacid 1 month ago
This looks friggn' EPIC!!!!!
heyheymister 1 month ago
Seirra maybe when it goes to america, but not ramin.. Actually neither of them have the vocal maturity to play older more operatic characters.
aalg4c 2 months ago
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A good look doesn't change a stupid OOC storyline, boring songs and raping of the original PotO Soundtrack. Amen.
VincentoValentine 2 months ago
OMNIGOD... I haven't seen LND, but I've rewatched this clip like three times by now! It looks amazing! The colors are ravishing, the orchestration is just... WOW, the acting is so fun, and it looks like it would be something worth seeing. :3
loathing14 2 months ago
@loathing14 seems like you'll enjoy the dvd then :)
kendrarussell 2 months ago
@kendrarussell :) If it comes to America faster than POTO did. :x
loathing14 2 months ago
@EriKaV81509 Yeah that would be AMAZING!
Edwardxtube 2 months ago
I don't think I've ever seen something so ravishing on a stage, plus the beautiful orchestrations by Webber... it's a shame that the story was such trash.
CrazyAboutSims2 2 months ago
@Answl82 YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME WHAT DID YOU DO TO GET TICKETS FROM ANDREW THATS AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!
Edwardxtube 2 months ago
I heard that the show will go to Sydney then tokyo and then back to london and finally.Broadway
Edwardxtube 2 months ago
@Edwardxtube They should bring back Ramin & Sierra when it somes to America!!!!
EriKaV81509 2 months ago
Weber actually was a lot more please with the Aussie show because he said it was more so, how he truly envisioned the show.
The London production had an amazing cast, but not this :p
And, the Aussie cast is pretty freakin awesome too...
grendle7 2 months ago
lol, I was in third row
Babylips90210 2 months ago
They totally ripped of Carousel !!!!!!!
pandacopter2 2 months ago
LOVE the "freakish" quality of this opening. Coney Island was the perfect setting. I wish they hadn't ripped off the whole "Carousel Waltz" theme and creating the carousel on stage as in Rogers & Hammerstein's "Carousel", but the spookiness of it helped a lot.
lcowles 2 months ago
2 of 2 london was much more technically hypnotic sung by madame giry. what we see here the aussies have a whole nother take on the show, the whole show. it's been totally re imagined. so it's not the same london show whether you liked that one or not. lot of "haters" out there...
DBMaida 2 months ago
all i can say is some of you are really crazy. this opening number in the melbourne production is NOTHING like it was was in london. keep your strong opinions to urselves unless you've seen both to compare. as i compare london's opening to this productions opening...there is no comparison. continued........1 of 2
DBMaida 2 months ago
I want to dedicate a very special message to those who critiqued the show, resulting in it's closure. It's quite simple; chances are, you unfortunately are blinded by surface details of the shows you watch, and very superficially take part in the story. You are clearly not at all impressed by love, and your desire to pay bills outweighs your appreciation of those (like ALW) who TRULY give to people. From us Phans, and people who live by heart...... fuck you.
Thumbs up if you hope they see this.
OushGisher 3 months ago 103
@OushGisher keep in mind though, les misérables was also critique badly casuing them to think of abandoning their show altogether. However as we know, the next week afterwards they had sold every ticket- much like love never dies. Personally i don't like the idea of the story but it is an amazing musical
DecoDogify 2 months ago
@OushGisher Well, I like some things about LND, but hate alot of things. I would give it a 2 and a half or 3 out of 5 stars so...I'm sort of on both sides.
jelliclekat24 2 months ago
@OushGisher Hell Yeah!
MickTweak 1 month ago
As it's own show, I believe it's as good as any other ALW show. However, to tie it on as a sequel to Phantom... it's not the same callaber, doesn't have the flow to be a sequel... And the original didn't NEED a "finisher"
seansuth 3 months ago 2
Of course everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I, personally am not a huge fan of this show. I firmly believe that the original did not need a sequal and that if ALW were to make a sequal, there are so many better books he could have chosen from. However, the staging of this show is very beautiful and very magical. What made the original so sucessful was how the music would haunt you forever and this song, along with "Til I Hear You Sing", have that effect.
angel6of6music6 3 months ago
Love the opening hope it hits AMERICA
adminofsugas 3 months ago
ALW sent me tickets to see this show, long story, and it was outstanding! I love org phantom dont get me wrong but this show had so much depth!!!! The actual staging and effects were really amazing!!!
Answl82 3 months ago
I've been thinking. if public opinion forced the show to close in London, couldn't public opinion help to bring it back? Someone start a petition!
morwenmur 3 months ago 2
what is this O0O!?!?
It's so magical *q*!
12enma12 3 months ago
FORGET LONDON, I'M GOING TO MELBOURNE....
grendle7 3 months ago
The opening sequence is phenomenal. I love where Phantom is.
koolkat104 3 months ago
I've been a skeptic of the staging of this show, and certain parts of the character development. I must say, this opening is absolutely mesmerizing in every way. I hope it comes to New York.
jmprater 3 months ago
I'm anxiously waiting for this to come to America and go on tour!! Beautiful!
singractr 3 months ago
This song is not on the soundtrack - and its sooo good D:
Albusowner 3 months ago
@Albusowner it will be on the dvd though
kendrarussell 3 months ago
@kendrarussell Dvd? what dvd?! Are they making a movie of the australian company?
Albusowner 3 months ago
@Albusowner the australian version was filmed september 12-15. the uk gets the dvd in march while the other places may get it in february
kendrarussell 3 months ago
OMG!!! I love it! This is what London should have done! This speaks Coney Island to me!
MsDancingdolphin 4 months ago
Very creepy. I love it!
ABookwormAndProud 4 months ago
The Australian version is interesting... I think I prefer London....
MissAliiciia 4 months ago
Is this from the Australian production?
producerpako 4 months ago
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If this Opening Sequence in Australia is any indication, I'm not surprised this fiasco died an ignominious death in London. Guess Spiderman's Broadway excesses have started an unwelcome trend.
UnkMitch 4 months ago
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It's not wrong to be upset over a sequel which, in your eyes, tarnishes your characters. It's not a crime to want & try to expand the characters in sequels, but this show doesn't do ANY of the characters justice. It's also not a crime to be upset & angry at someone who only made the show to begin with to make more money off of a popular franchise; or do you not remember the Star Wars prequels? ALW was inspired by the love for his then-wife Sarah to make POTO, here, it was just money.
LePhantomessa 4 months ago
@LePhantomessa Whatever it was, for money or for love, it held great meaning and emotional power. People who can't feel that are too busy with their pre-arranged money-making critiques, or their obsessive nostalgia with the feel of the original story. I never cared much for Love Never Dies when just downloading the album and listening to it. Going to see the show was something different. I laughed, I cried, I was inspired. Give it a chance.
OushGisher 4 months ago 2
@OushGisher I have seen this show. It only inspired feelings of disappointment. Had the show been attached to any other name but Phantom, it might have been decent. Have a show about a young man who ran away to the circus as a teenager and became the manager, who is trying to recapture the heart of the childhood sweetheart he left behind who is married to another with a child, and this would've been an okay musical. But making this a sequel was a mistake, plain and simple.
LePhantomessa 4 months ago
@LePhantomessa (ctd) The performers had lovely voices and acted well enough, and the scenery and stage direction was impressive. The music is decent, as is the score. But the plot and general mood doesn't fit for Phantom. From the beginning in 1909, POTO has been a dark, gothic horror/romance/tragedy, with very little humor and an overall feeling of desperation, sadness and despair. I just can't see how songs like 'Bathing Beauty' or 'What a Dreadful Place!' fit into that niche.
LePhantomessa 4 months ago
@LePhantomessa Ah, btw I just noticed this post; sorry >.>
That I agree with; it is a bit of a departure from that original gothic/mysterious setting... I remember going to see Phantom for the first time and looking up at the shadows of the ceiling of Her Majesty's Theatre and imagining that a/the Phantom was there somewhere like in the story : )
Indeed I felt a difference, but Love Never Dies is also lovely just in it's own way... what do you think of scores like 'Beneath the Moonless Sky'?
OushGisher 4 months ago
@OushGisher Beneath the Moonless Sky was the only piece I felt that really fit into the POTO niche. It was perfectly written, describing the pull of two people into a passionate, overwhelmingly imperfect one-night affair where they touched upon the depths of their emotions and feelings for each other, before ending in heartbreak based on the anticipation of the past repeating itself. I think that it describes perfectly what would have happened between the two had it really occurred.
LePhantomessa 4 months ago
@LePhantomessa I agree. It was my favourite piece besides Til I Hear You Sing and Love Never Dies. Nowadays when the top songs on the radio are always about sex and alcohol... (i.e. hittin' duh clUUUb wit ma nigga nigga WHA? knocken up den HOOOES... etc.) it's a huge relief to find that someone out there still can describe the powerful emotions behind actually making love, when all feelings leak out of the inner world finally.
OushGisher 4 months ago 3
@LePhantomessa Or Love Never Dies... 'Til I Hear You Sing? Wouldn't you think that 'Bathing Beauty' (didn't like it either... lol) were just fillers which happened to be songs, similar to 'Like yellow parchment is his skin.......' in the first one?
Plus, I get this gut feeling that the Australian production resembles more of the original Phantom with a slight circus touch.
OushGisher 4 months ago
@OushGisher 'Like yellow parchment is his skin' was a direct reference to the original source material, Gaston Leroux's novel. In it, Erik is described as having skin as dry and yellowed as old parchment. As well, that song added levels of tension to the overall plot, showing how monstrous the Phantom appeared to the opera company, and foreshadowing the death of Buquet, which would be the catalyst to drive Christine into Raoul's arms. It had its place in the overall story in the end.
LePhantomessa 4 months ago
@LePhantomessa That's your opinion, which you're entitled to, as the multitude of us who like it us entitled to ours. Whatever you choose to focus on in the show is whatever you choose to focus on in the show.
The fact, however, is that no-one was ever asked to see this as 'THE' sequel. Even ALW stated that he wished for the musical to be seen as one of its own, that to him it's a stand-alone with some characters from Phantom (continued...)
OushGisher 4 months ago
@LePhantomessa This was an alternative continuation, and even I don't think of it as 'the' proper sequel... but even as an alternative continuation that didn't stop me from loving it. It really is just the feelings of attachment that are preventing you from opening up to LND. People believing that its existence will tarnish the Phantom is like someone hearing that spiders exist and having a panic attack because their existence may be tarnished from a spider bite at some point; (continued)...
OushGisher 4 months ago
@LePhantomessa ; in reality, there's nothing to be concerned about, really.
The fundamental fact, however, is that you simply do not call for the cancellation of a piece of entertainment just because it didn't satisfy you or it interfered with your emotional flow (not calling you 'emotional' to be an ass... we all get that emotional rush when seeing a musical we love, and that's a huge point of attending the act). Had it been a new taxation method or governmental healthcare plan, (continued)...
OushGisher 4 months ago
@LePhantomessa Then that would be understandable, because it could have negative effects on your way of life (it's a shame that negative reviews for shitty laws don't cause them to be overthrown, eh :( ). However, pushing for the cancellation of something that doesn't affect one on any way besides feeling that a form of entertainment to which he/she is really drawn has been given a wrong continuation is just inconsiderate of the feelings of countless other anonymous people who happen (continued)
OushGisher 4 months ago
@LePhantomessa To feel inspired by it, whether or not they find it to be a good sequel. Sure, there are some which are just horrible. Very few people liked the third 'The Mummy' film - there's too much wrong with it for me to post on here, when compared to the previous ones. But LND is quite 50/50. Many were still very much anticipating attending it for the first time, and now they can't because excessively nostalgic people got what they wanted.
Great. Now what. More POTO collection items?.....
OushGisher 4 months ago
@LePhantomessa (continued) If you dislike it, again, that's your choice. But if the people who gave it negative reviews all felt the same way, rather than just being emotionally poor idiots who get payed to attend shows and criticise all they can, actually all feel enough anxiety or frustration about the existence of an alternative story continuation, which is a very emotional and powerful piece of its own, then plain and simple, they need to find something else to make or break their lives.
OushGisher 4 months ago
@LePhantomessa Not a musical.
And hey... if you didn't like how the story ended, I'm with you on that one :'(
OushGisher 4 months ago
What sick heartless fucks compelled ALW to cancel the London show?
OushGisher 4 months ago 46
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@OushGisher The phans who didn't want to see POTO's legacy tarnished in a way that the sequel to the fantastic musical took its plot from THE worst written POTO sequel of all time by Frederick Forsyth, in which Erik goes to New York, becomes a fish-gutting clown on the docks, opens a carnival on Coney Island, & worships a god of money. Th music for the musical is passable, the lyrics are mediocre, and while the stage effects are pretty neat, this was not the way to continue Phantom.
LePhantomessa 4 months ago
@LePhantomessa Ah, yes, forgive me for also mentioning the Phanatics.
OushGisher 4 months ago
@OushGisher, what are you talking about???? Cancel what show?
oneworldguy 3 months ago
@OushGisher His producers. It was "haemorrhaging money"
adam4757 3 months ago
@adam4757 Where'd you read this? I'd like to look into it
OushGisher 3 months ago
@OushGisher Can't link web pages here but go onto the Daily Mail website and search for "Love Never Dies. The first result "Love Never Dies.... But its Hurting" is the source.
adam4757 3 months ago
@OushGisher the heartless people who made this fantastic show close in London were so called experts critic's of the west end theater, and its not the first time. When the original Phantom of the opera opened, the critic's faulted the production. but luckily for the original phantom the audiences reaction got it through to become one of the greatest peaces of musical theater the world has ever known, it just wasn't to be for the original production of love never dies.:(
matthewparsons1996 3 months ago 28
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I cannot wait to see this in US...if you are a true Phantom lover you will love it...at first I was upset...but the music is gorgeous. WHY WHY DID THEY CLOSE IT...IT WOULD HAVE DONE WELL IN USA!!!
bethlov 1 month ago
@OushGisher Because the reviews in Broadway were so awful, it needed to be rewritten. Australia (Melbourne) got to test out the newly written version which was received way better than the original. It'll hit London soon now due to the success of the Australian version.
renilicious 3 months ago
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First of all, the rewrites occurred in London and were in effect when it closed. The look of the show is the only thing that is different. It will sadly not come back to London. I think the DVD will happen and the show will disapear for a while and then resurface.
BTW- australia looks better, but London had way better actors.
Geoffrey1138 2 months ago
@OushGisher i know right, love never dies is the best show that ever been to the west end and i wanted to see it, i heard that andrew lloyd webber got fined for painting the theatre black (even though its his own theatre) silly right
MsOctoberstorm 3 months ago
@OushGisher
This is the melbourne show, which turned out MUCH better than the London show...
grendle7 2 months ago
Is that Matt Lucas?
zaphod133 4 months ago
The midget lady scares me....not scares me but it's kinda creepy
LitesofBway 5 months ago
@LitesofBway That whole thing was kinda creepy.
huka0104 5 months ago
What a theatrical delight....except....that utterly unnecessarily conductor. Now tell me? Who was the idiot what thought for even one second that any paying audience (or casual YouTube viewer) wants to see some bloke wave his arms in front of a stage spectacle? Love the orchestras work on an aural level....but don't wanna see even a hint of them.... Gauche, distracting and indulgent.....get that conductor back in the band pit where he belongs. Wanted to chuck something at his head...sit down in
CheyFunk21 5 months ago
@CheyFunk21 While I agree it may have been a mistake on the part of the lighting designer to have the conductor lit at this point, what gives you the audacity to insult one the most important people in the entire production? That "bloke waving his arms around" is more important to the show than any of the leads. I respect your opinion, but you have to realize that there are better ways to share it than what you just did.
musicmanaj92 4 months ago
Nice, but I think the London version is better. Probably because it is more goth, steampunk, art nouveau, other cooler characters, a bigger budget and new mind-blowing stage technology.
Vampoff 5 months ago
Wow! I can't even begin to tell you how wonderful that was to watch! It was so creative! I loved it all, even though it was just the opening sequence!
Thanks for posting this!
isnormalityareality 5 months ago in playlist More videos from theDAVEnetwork2011
I was wondering why I didn't recognise this, it's not london. LOL
ThePhantomFanatic 5 months ago
good
redberry0 5 months ago
Not sure I like this opening, musically, as much as the original version (as per the album), but the Melbourne production design certainly looks much more intriguing than the London version.
WylieWatson 6 months ago
this isn't the opening sequence i saw it in melb and it started with the phantom singing til i hear you sing
zBoOnerAwSoMeStPeEps 6 months ago
Can't wait til this is in Sydney! The staging is brilliant, it all sends shivers up my spine :)
thegobber 6 months ago
I have the soundtrack of LND and i listen to it all the time! I just saw Phantom in Las Vegas a few days ago and it was amazing!!! I really want to see LND As soon as it comes to L.A. :D i can't afford to see it in New York :P
BlackPearlPirate16 6 months ago
@BlackPearlPirate16 If it makes it to New York...
fatheranthony4pope 5 months ago
Excellent production. Much better than the London version - i find the Australian production more colourful and vibrant even the pace is better. The only good thing about the London play is Ramin Karimloo (the best Phantom) but our phantom here is also good:) Kudos to LND Australia!
itsmeehLala 6 months ago
I seem to have found the type of music I like! The sort of major-minor keys. Point of No Return seems minor and then 'the final threshold' onwards is major and then at 'past' it goes back to normal.
Monkeyballmania 6 months ago
hardly a world excluxive this scene was on youtube before this post
garrychelsea 7 months ago
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one word.
BAH.
F4nGiRL 7 months ago
That was absolutety SPECATULAR!!! :O Thank you soo much!
2012classOdyssey 7 months ago
Damn, you Phantom of Manhattan! They should have done Susan Kay's Phantom; it's the prequel and I have it on my bookself.
PhantomJean05 7 months ago
Now THIS is what a freak show looks like! Now, if only this version axed out tripe like "Beneath A Moonless Sky", we might have something.
leftyliz140 7 months ago
I prefer the London version personally, the effects for the Coney Island Waltz are amazing. And without Mme Giry and Meg this just feels like a completely different show. I also don't like what they've done to Fleck, she's supposed to be half bird! if you can, go see it in London before it closes, it's better than this, no matter what Webber thinks.
ScenemoSweetie 7 months ago
@ScenemoSweetie Little peoples were a big attraction in those days. It would have been more realistic for Coney Island to feature one than a half-bird.
OohcoolProductions 6 months ago
This spectacle is amazing and very tim Burton-esque. I love the costumes and scenery, but being a loyal fan of the original Phantom, I'm having a hard time accepting this musical was created in the first place.
theLadySpies 7 months ago
Thank you soo much for posting this!!! I was sitting in the front row so I couldn't see everything in this scene properly, especially the people up there.
chaumander1 8 months ago 14
Lol your welcome @chaumander1
Cheers,
Dave
theDAVEnetwork2011 8 months ago
@chaumander1 Tell me about it! I was so naive thinking that the front row was the best place to see everything and I missed almost all the special effects from the play, not mentioning that the maestro was right in front of me. No wonder that the 4th row was more expensive than the first.
tassilopes 6 months ago
@tassilopes I was sitting to the side a bit so the maestro wasn't a real problem for me. Ending was pretty awesome for the front row except I was sitting to the left of the stage so Gustave covered my view at the very end. I was really pissed off at him. I hope the dvd is coming out soon.
I didn't notice missing any special effects just hated the stuff happening above the stage and the gustave thing. ???
chaumander1 6 months ago
The set is extraordinary. But the plot still sucks.
adam4757 8 months ago
This looks really good! I prefer this to only having Madame Giry and Fleck singing.
9Britta23 8 months ago
I LOVE this version of Love Never Dies, but Ramin Karimloo and Sierra Boggess are better... If both of them were in this production it would be...just... wow, my head exploded...
spiderpigc 8 months ago
beautiful absolutely stunning
CurvesRsexy08 8 months ago
i have seen the london show and i loved it. but this looks beautiful too. i will never see the australian version. but i am happy i have seen the london version as it was excellent value for money.i would gladly go to see it in the future again to.
anrobvassallo 8 months ago
@anrobvassallo Well, this will be the production they use for the UK tour and Broadway. Was wondering if they were reopening this on West End but I’m entirely sure they’re closing for UK tour.
sonofstageandpage 8 months ago
@sonofstageandpage to be truthful my daughter was thinking of going to see love never dies in 2012 and i was to go with her to london. we come from malta and london is more viable for shows for us. and in all honesty we love the shows staged there. love never dies was incredible and sincerely i would like to see it again. hope it won't close. tks for your post.
anrobvassallo 8 months ago
I like Fleck and Giry singing this part better though I will say I do like the theatrics
naryafaeraine 8 months ago
@naryafaeraine Same here. Love the staging but wish Giry and Meg were in it too.
DistantCousin 6 months ago
I like Fleck and Giry singing this part better
naryafaeraine 8 months ago
Far better than the London one
PhantomOftheOpera25 9 months ago 2
@PhantomOftheOpera25 completely disagree
LordMcManus 8 months ago
The audience will definitely leave humming the scenery.
Bric 9 months ago
Wow ... I really dont know what to say after seeing this! It is absolutely specatacularly done! But, really disturbing! gives me the creeps. I personally feel like they have taken the freak and circus theme way too far! London didnt have enough, and this has too much! But I think that those sets and costumes are absolutely genious and breath taking... just not suited for Love Never Dies!
SamSkii14 9 months ago 2
i don't really like this...I prefer the london version personally
Megararocks 9 months ago 18
@Megararocks have you seen the melbourne version?
PlasticAstroBoy 7 months ago
@Megararocks this is the london version isnt it
MsOctoberstorm 4 months ago
@MsOctoberstorm no, it's the australian version
fuego577 4 months ago
@Megararocks I think it sets a great haunting atmosphere, the london version is fab but this is more haunting in my opinion and i love how theyve interpreted it x
TheDisneygirl211 4 months ago