How can you expect me not to use Bible verses when you bring up and twist the Bible? I must first correct what you said and then proceed to the rest. In Revelation 7:1 actually, the reference is to the cardinal directions: north, south, east, and west. Similar terminology is often used today when we speak of the sun's rising and setting, even though the earth, not the sun, is doing the moving. (See Next)
Bible writers used the language of appearance, just as people always have. Without it, the intended message would be awkward at best and probably not understood clearly.
In the Old Testament, Job 26:7 explains that the earth is suspended in space, the obvious comparison being with the spherical sun and moon. (See Next)
A literal translation of Job 26:10 is "He described a circle upon the face of the waters, until the day and night come to an end." A spherical earth is also described in Isaiah 40:21-22 - "the circle of the earth."
Proverbs 8:27 also suggests a round earth by use of the word circle (e.g., New King James Bible and New American Standard Bible). If you are overlooking the ocean, the horizon appears as a circle. (See Next)
This circle on the horizon is described in Job 26:10. The circle on the face of the waters is one of the proofs that the Greeks used for a spherical earth. Yet here it is recorded in Job, ages before the Greeks discovered it. Job 26:10 indicates that where light terminates, darkness begins. This suggests day and night on a spherical globe. (See Next)
The Hebrew record is the oldest, because Job is one of the oldest books in the Bible. Historians generally [wrongly] credit the Greeks with being the first to suggest a spherical earth. In the sixth century B.C., Pythagoras suggested a spherical earth. Eratosthenes of Alexandria (circa 276 to 194 or 192 B.C.) calcuated the circumference of the earth "within 50 miles of the present estimate." [Encyclopedia Brittanica] (See Next)
The Greeks also drew meridians and parallels. They identified such areas as the poles, equator, and tropics. This spherical earth concept did not prevail; the Romans drew the earth as a flat disk with oceans around it. The round shape of our planet was a conclusion easily drawn by watching ships disappear over the horizon and also by observing eclipse shadows, (See Next)
and we can assume that such information was well known to New Testament writers. Earth's spherical shape was, of course, also understood by Christopher Columbus.
The implication of a round earth is seen in the book of Luke, where Jesus described his return, Luke 17:31. Jesus said, In that day, then in verse 34, In that night. This is an allusion to light on one side of the globe and darkness on the other simultaneously. (See Next)
Perhaps no phrase in Scripture has been so controversial as the phrase, "the four corners of the earth." The word translated corners, as in the phrase above, is the Hebrew word, KANAPH. Kanaph is translated in a variety of ways. However, it generally means extremity.
It is translated borders in Numbers 15:38. In Ezekiel 7:2 it is translated four corners and again in Isaiah 11:12 four corners. Job 37:3 and 38:13 as ends. (See Next)
The Greek equivalent in Revelation 7:1 is gonia. The Greek meaning is perhaps more closely related to our modern divisions known as quadrants. Gonia literally means angles, or divisions. It is customary to divide a map into quadrants as shown by the four directions.
Some have tried to ridicule the Bible to say that it teaches that the earth is square. The Scripture makes it quite clear that the earth is a sphere (Isaiah 40:22). (See Next)
Some have tried to say there are four knobs, or peaks on a round earth. Regardless of the various ways kanaph is translated, it makes reference to EXTREMITIES.
There are many ways in which God the Holy Spirit could have said corner. Any of the following Hebrew words could have been used: (See Next)
* Pinoh is used in reference to the cornerstone. * Paioh means a geometric corner * Ziovyoh means right angle or corner * Krnouth refers to a projecting corner. * Paamouth - If the Lord wanted to convey the idea of a square, four-cornered earth, the Hebrew word paamouth could have been used. Paamouth means square.
Instead, the Holy Spirit selected the word kanaph, conveying the idea of extremity. (See Next)
It is doubtful that any religious Jew would ever misunderstand the true meaning of kanaph. For nearly 2,000 years, religious Jews have faced the city of Jerusalem three times daily and chanted the following prayer: Sound the great trumpet for our freedom, Raise the banner for gathering our exiles, And gather us together from THE FOUR CORNERS OF THE EARTH into our own land.
The Book of Isaiah describes how the Messiah, the Root of Jesse, shall regather his people from the four corners of the earth. They shall come from every extremity to be gathered into Israel. "And in that day there shall be a Root of Jesse,
That the LORD shall set His hand again the second time To recover the remnant of His people who are left, From Assyria and Egypt, From Pathros and Cush, From Elam and Shinar, From Hamath and the islands of the sea. He will set up a banner for the nations, And will assemble the outcasts of Israel, And gather together the dispersed of Judah From THE FOUR CORNERS OF THE EARTH. (Isaiah 11:10-12, New King James Version) (See Next)
Evolutionists often falsely accuse creationists of believing in a flat Earth. But neither history nor modern scholarship supports the claim that Christians ever widely believed that the Earth was flat. And the Bible doesn't teach it. Christianity has often been accused of opposing science and hindering technology throughout history by superstitious ignorance. However, a closer study of historical facts shows that this accusation is ill-founded. (See Next)
In his book The Discovers, author Daniel Boorstin stated: A Europe-wide phenomenon of scholarly amnesia afflicted the continent from AD 300 to at least 1300. During those centuries Christian faith and dogma suppressed the useful image of the world that had been so slowly, so painfully, and so scrupulously drawn by ancient geographers. (Boorstin acknowledges in his book that by the time of Columbus, most educated Europeans believed in a spherical Earth.) (See Next)
Christianity has often been held responsible for promoting the flat Earth theory. Yet, it was only a handful of so-called intellectual scholars throughout the centuries, claiming to represent the Church, who held to a flat Earth. Most of these were ignored by the Church, yet somehow their writings made it into early history books as being the official Christian viewpoint. (See Next)
While many will have lost their faith through the writing of such men as Irving, Draper and White, it is gratifying to know that the following encyclopedias now present the correct account of the Columbus affair: The New Encyclopaedia Britannica (1985), Colliers Encyclopaedia (1984), The Encyclopedia Americana (1987) and The World Book for Children (1989). There is still a long way to go before the average student will know that Christianity did not invent or promote the myth of the flat Earth.
So now you know very well that neither Holy Scriptures nor Christians who understand the Bible believe or teach anything about a "flat earth", so IF you repeat this error then I think you are lying on purpose since I have presented the facts to you. Take Care!
P.S.: I forgot my sources are ChristianAnswers (Net), Dr. Donald DeYoung, Ph.D. (Physics), Astronomy and the Bible, pg. 17, published by Baker Book House, Dr. Joan Sloat Morton, Ph.D. (Biology and related scientific studies), Science in the Bible (Chicago: Moody Press, 1978), p. 13.
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InsertGoodNameHeree 2 years ago
How can you expect me not to use Bible verses when you bring up and twist the Bible? I must first correct what you said and then proceed to the rest. In Revelation 7:1 actually, the reference is to the cardinal directions: north, south, east, and west. Similar terminology is often used today when we speak of the sun's rising and setting, even though the earth, not the sun, is doing the moving. (See Next)
thequakerchannel 2 years ago
Bible writers used the language of appearance, just as people always have. Without it, the intended message would be awkward at best and probably not understood clearly.
In the Old Testament, Job 26:7 explains that the earth is suspended in space, the obvious comparison being with the spherical sun and moon. (See Next)
thequakerchannel 2 years ago
A literal translation of Job 26:10 is "He described a circle upon the face of the waters, until the day and night come to an end." A spherical earth is also described in Isaiah 40:21-22 - "the circle of the earth."
Proverbs 8:27 also suggests a round earth by use of the word circle (e.g., New King James Bible and New American Standard Bible). If you are overlooking the ocean, the horizon appears as a circle. (See Next)
thequakerchannel 2 years ago
This circle on the horizon is described in Job 26:10. The circle on the face of the waters is one of the proofs that the Greeks used for a spherical earth. Yet here it is recorded in Job, ages before the Greeks discovered it. Job 26:10 indicates that where light terminates, darkness begins. This suggests day and night on a spherical globe. (See Next)
thequakerchannel 2 years ago
The Hebrew record is the oldest, because Job is one of the oldest books in the Bible. Historians generally [wrongly] credit the Greeks with being the first to suggest a spherical earth. In the sixth century B.C., Pythagoras suggested a spherical earth. Eratosthenes of Alexandria (circa 276 to 194 or 192 B.C.) calcuated the circumference of the earth "within 50 miles of the present estimate." [Encyclopedia Brittanica] (See Next)
thequakerchannel 2 years ago
The Greeks also drew meridians and parallels. They identified such areas as the poles, equator, and tropics. This spherical earth concept did not prevail; the Romans drew the earth as a flat disk with oceans around it. The round shape of our planet was a conclusion easily drawn by watching ships disappear over the horizon and also by observing eclipse shadows, (See Next)
thequakerchannel 2 years ago
and we can assume that such information was well known to New Testament writers. Earth's spherical shape was, of course, also understood by Christopher Columbus.
The implication of a round earth is seen in the book of Luke, where Jesus described his return, Luke 17:31. Jesus said, In that day, then in verse 34, In that night. This is an allusion to light on one side of the globe and darkness on the other simultaneously. (See Next)
thequakerchannel 2 years ago
Perhaps no phrase in Scripture has been so controversial as the phrase, "the four corners of the earth." The word translated corners, as in the phrase above, is the Hebrew word, KANAPH. Kanaph is translated in a variety of ways. However, it generally means extremity.
It is translated borders in Numbers 15:38. In Ezekiel 7:2 it is translated four corners and again in Isaiah 11:12 four corners. Job 37:3 and 38:13 as ends. (See Next)
thequakerchannel 2 years ago
The Greek equivalent in Revelation 7:1 is gonia. The Greek meaning is perhaps more closely related to our modern divisions known as quadrants. Gonia literally means angles, or divisions. It is customary to divide a map into quadrants as shown by the four directions.
Some have tried to ridicule the Bible to say that it teaches that the earth is square. The Scripture makes it quite clear that the earth is a sphere (Isaiah 40:22). (See Next)
thequakerchannel 2 years ago
Some have tried to say there are four knobs, or peaks on a round earth. Regardless of the various ways kanaph is translated, it makes reference to EXTREMITIES.
There are many ways in which God the Holy Spirit could have said corner. Any of the following Hebrew words could have been used: (See Next)
thequakerchannel 2 years ago
* Pinoh is used in reference to the cornerstone. * Paioh means a geometric corner * Ziovyoh means right angle or corner * Krnouth refers to a projecting corner. * Paamouth - If the Lord wanted to convey the idea of a square, four-cornered earth, the Hebrew word paamouth could have been used. Paamouth means square.
Instead, the Holy Spirit selected the word kanaph, conveying the idea of extremity. (See Next)
thequakerchannel 2 years ago
It is doubtful that any religious Jew would ever misunderstand the true meaning of kanaph. For nearly 2,000 years, religious Jews have faced the city of Jerusalem three times daily and chanted the following prayer: Sound the great trumpet for our freedom, Raise the banner for gathering our exiles, And gather us together from THE FOUR CORNERS OF THE EARTH into our own land.
(See Next)
thequakerchannel 2 years ago
The Book of Isaiah describes how the Messiah, the Root of Jesse, shall regather his people from the four corners of the earth. They shall come from every extremity to be gathered into Israel. "And in that day there shall be a Root of Jesse,
Who shall stand as a banner to the people;
For the Gentiles shall seek Him,
And His resting place shall be glorious."
It shall come to pass in that day
(See Next)
thequakerchannel 2 years ago
thequakerchannel 2 years ago
Evolutionists often falsely accuse creationists of believing in a flat Earth. But neither history nor modern scholarship supports the claim that Christians ever widely believed that the Earth was flat. And the Bible doesn't teach it. Christianity has often been accused of opposing science and hindering technology throughout history by superstitious ignorance. However, a closer study of historical facts shows that this accusation is ill-founded. (See Next)
thequakerchannel 2 years ago
In his book The Discovers, author Daniel Boorstin stated: A Europe-wide phenomenon of scholarly amnesia afflicted the continent from AD 300 to at least 1300. During those centuries Christian faith and dogma suppressed the useful image of the world that had been so slowly, so painfully, and so scrupulously drawn by ancient geographers. (Boorstin acknowledges in his book that by the time of Columbus, most educated Europeans believed in a spherical Earth.) (See Next)
thequakerchannel 2 years ago
Christianity has often been held responsible for promoting the flat Earth theory. Yet, it was only a handful of so-called intellectual scholars throughout the centuries, claiming to represent the Church, who held to a flat Earth. Most of these were ignored by the Church, yet somehow their writings made it into early history books as being the official Christian viewpoint. (See Next)
thequakerchannel 2 years ago
While many will have lost their faith through the writing of such men as Irving, Draper and White, it is gratifying to know that the following encyclopedias now present the correct account of the Columbus affair: The New Encyclopaedia Britannica (1985), Colliers Encyclopaedia (1984), The Encyclopedia Americana (1987) and The World Book for Children (1989). There is still a long way to go before the average student will know that Christianity did not invent or promote the myth of the flat Earth.
thequakerchannel 2 years ago
So now you know very well that neither Holy Scriptures nor Christians who understand the Bible believe or teach anything about a "flat earth", so IF you repeat this error then I think you are lying on purpose since I have presented the facts to you. Take Care!
thequakerchannel 2 years ago
P.S.: I forgot my sources are ChristianAnswers (Net), Dr. Donald DeYoung, Ph.D. (Physics), Astronomy and the Bible, pg. 17, published by Baker Book House, Dr. Joan Sloat Morton, Ph.D. (Biology and related scientific studies), Science in the Bible (Chicago: Moody Press, 1978), p. 13.
thequakerchannel 2 years ago