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  • The finest documentary series about World War II ever produced. Very fitting that it began with the atrocity of Oradour sur Glane. What evil, men are capable of.

  • I wish and hope someday to visit the above place in France.

  • Marienfeld07 and helldars - you both have points and some of what you both say is both historically correct and well presented. All I can say is that I have visited Oradour and it is a very moving experience and if you haven't been then GO. There is no dispute that some of the 'Der Fuhrer' regiment from the 2nd SS 'Das Reich' division were the soldiers responsible for the massacre. You only have to read the transcripts from the trial in Bordeaux in 1953 to know this.

  • @mjd222axq Oh, I do intend to go there sometime. But I'm already convinced by the "official" (as in REAL) story of the massacre, even without going there. Because I trust the democracy in which I live to tell me the thruth about all these horrors.

  • @MaxSpaTemp104 Oh yeah, why do you think so many emigrated to the US during the 30's dumbass ? To fulfill a so-called "dark scheme" ? Europe wasn't a very safe place for them already...But of course nothing like reasoning or REAL historical research will ever change your Nazi-mind...

  • the Germans simply examined the penis to identify all jews for either deportation or the labor camps. Morris Fishbein was the jewish editor of the AMA Journal from 1924 to 1950 who convinced America to start cutting all infant penises regardless of race. The jews schemed to be hidden amongst other circumcised males in case the American people ever rebelled against jewish supremacism such as the Germans. Untold millions of American males have suffered genital mutilation since the WW2-era.

  • @MaxSpaTemp104 Nazi

  • communist

  • @MaxSpaTemp104 LOL ! Wrong ! Guess again Nazi !

  • I don't like calling a documentary on such chilling events my "favorite".

    But it is, by far, the best documentary I have ever seen.

  • Laurence Olivier's narration made this whole series. He sucks you into the madness, but keeps you sober.

  • Instead of serious discussions with "frenchy", now we have to read what a "punky" canadian invitations to download foolish games. Incredible, but understandable from this kind of people!!

    Remember, Oradour blame was and is put on the Germans instead of the french partisans, commies by the way.

  • Oh, sorry forgot to answer back, I was to busy celebrating Christmas and the New year from the Christian calendar...you fool, you think that anyone who says the holocaust was real HAS to be a jew ? Pathetic. About french soldiers, please, stop considering them as drunk cowards, did you knew that the Battle of France was the most deadly for the Wehrmacht until Barbarossa was launched ? That's right those "drunk soldiers" managed to kill or wound 2000 german soldiers per day during the campaign...

  • ...,the so-called "cowards", who dropped their rifles and ran away at once actually FOUGHT and DIED (100 000 dead) to defend their country, but also Holland, Belgium, Norway, Luxemburg and to protect the evacuation at Dunkirk. So please stop the french-bashing. As for the Das Reich or the Charlemagne division, as a bunch of fascists they will never deserve my esteem.

  • Blame is placed on the Germans because it was the 2nd SS Das Reich division who entered the village and deliberately massacred 642 innocent souls, not the French resistance. Your precious SS maniacs are burning in hell for what they've done, I am sure they are being permanently tortured by the screams of the dead and the dying.

  • @dumoriez I assume that tomorrow you will be marching at the Red Square, pathetic indeed and I understand your ignorance. Seems to me that you are a fan of Steven Spielberg movies & TV series; Please consult real and reliable sources of knowledge, since you worry me.

  • american, british and french; Therefore is not a sovereign country as the case of France, and for the same token the German government pays what they are instructed to pay, and to give away hardware to the israelis almost for free. In Oradour's case, its a hoax as the official version of the kamps, which by the way generate a lot of hard currency from naive people.They attacked the Das Reich division by the back, tortured & burned a German soldiers & paid for it. Simple as that. Chao frenchy

  • By the way, Spain suffered a lot, executions, revenges, bombings (the republicans stinked as pilots trained by the soviets/mujiks), starvation etc..you need to improve your knoledge frenchy, perhaps I can help). It's not the fault of the Waffen SS & Wehrmacht soldiers to be the choice of the French women instead of the drunk french soldiers that lost or De Gaulle's. Education is the name of the game, all the time. By the way, Germany still has foreign troops on its soil from WWII........

  • ...that in turn transfered him to a french prison and passed away in 2003 and his personal statement was "loyal to the end" that together with Christian de la Maziere and more people don't care about what other people say; Only matters what they think and believe together with people that doesn't share the official version of WWII. So is useless what you bark, suppported by the Media and american writers (French Media is not so powerful as the american) or/and your israeli friends.

  • Frenchy, frenchy calm down, maybe you are a french jew or an israeli to respond with whatever you think is useful to hide what really happened. It's not your fault entirely, believe me. Things happen, as Mr. Henri Fenet, a French & member of the Charlemagne Waffen SS Division; An excellent soldier that by the way, was one of the last four soldiers condecorated by The Führer for extraordinary achievements. He and his komrades defended the bunker to the last bullet, got prisoner of the ruskis...

  • I was wondering if you would dare to answer back Nazi...but as the great Michel Audiard once said: "Les cons ça osent tout, c'est même à ça qu'on les reconnaît". First of all the reperations. West Germany willingly accepted to bear the responsability of the Holocaust without any stupid questionning about the gas chambers, etc...East Germany refused because they said all "bad" Germans were in the west... Norman Finkelstein's book (by the the way it's not Daniel)

  • ...is talking about the way some jewish organisations are using the Holocaust to enrich themselves without helping the survivors. An interesting book but with probably many exaggerations. I'm not surprised to see you, a Nazi, trying to use this to promote your propaganda. In the book the Holocaust is said to be real, and yet you negationnist is using it ? Weird huh ? About the Charlemagne division (shame on the idiot who desecrated the memory of this great Emperor by choosing that name),...

  • Yes they were all volunteers...because they were Nazis...so I'm not surprised they fanatically (i.e. stupidly) fought to the last man. That some of them were shot after surrendering ? I'm not surprised either because: 1. They were traitors. 2. They were Nazis. 3. They could become the seeds of an hideous rebirth of facism in France. 4. They were captured by french soldiers, who probably hated them even more than communists would for the reasons above. And by the way it's Leclerc not Leclerck...

  • And it wasn't his real name at the time, but a pseudonym to protect his family back in France. And please, stop calling his men "goons", you're really making a fool of yourself. Did you even knew that some of them were Spanish ? And about the "malgré-nous" please YOU do some research and see if all of the French under the german uniform were volunteers. And please try something else than Wikipedia. About Spain, yes all the Republicans were not the "democratic" heroes the propaganda told us.

  • Executions, terror, etc...but too a far smaller extent than the facists did for sure, but of course it's not an excuse. Yes, the Republicans were supported by the West and the USSR but did you knew that the planes that bombed Guernica were Germans and Italians ? About the rapes and killings in Austria and Germany, what on earth are trying to do ? Who suffered the most ? I could say that the Germans started it and that the rapes and killings at the end of the war in Germany never happenned...

  • See ? That's a sterile debate. Oh, I think I just did negationnism, just like you're doing everyday...

    To finish this let's go back a bit to Oradour-sur-Glane. Your source is surely the book of the SS Otto Weidinger who tried (along with the leader of the perpetrators) to cover the massacre as an "incident". And to accuse the Resistance to be responsible. Riiight...like if the Resistance was dumb enough to hide explosives inside almost every houses in the village,...

  • while they had huge forests to do so. First of all the Resistance never had such an amount of explosives, well, if you collect EVERY piece of dynamite and plastic in the hands of the French Resistance in the whole country, maybe, yes. enough an amount to blow up half a village and burn the rest. And do you think that the Resistance would just gather all their explosives in ONE place ? A place filled with civilians that were family members of the Resistance fighters for some of them ? Bollocks !

  • Admit it, you're just a Nazi.

  • Hey, you... yeah you little Nazi-lover, you keep saying that all Germans were just sweety and gentle with everyone in the countries they occupied ? If your account is correct you're Spanish right ? Did Spain was ever bombed, invaded, occupied, raped, burned to the ground like Belgium, Poland, Russia of France, etc...? The final answer is NO !

  • My Grandfather was a child at the time of the occupation, but he remembers clearly the German flak enjoying themselves by shooting down pilots that had just jumped from their burning planes, is that honorable in your book ? This is strictly illegal by international law and is considered a war crime. All of your "historical knowledge" comes from neo-nazis propaganda books. Do you know why some of the murderers of Oradour were pardonned ?

  • Because they were Alsatians, and most of the Alsatians in the Werhmacht and the Waffen SS were forced to enlist, the "malgré-nous", and you know what ? I met one of them, and they're definitely not the proud germanic knights you think they are, they feel ashamed of having weared that uniform, and at the slightest occasion, they defected. About the brothel industry in France, well, there was a lot of brothels in Paris at the time, so what do you think ?

  • That they just had to refuse any germans going into their businesses ? No, life had to go on just has business, but a lot of thos brothels were spy nests, with the "employees" grabbing any intel they could from their german clients, and at the risk of being deported. About the franco-germans couples that formed during the occupation: do you think that every woman that did that loved the nazis and were like you my Nazi-lover ? No they just loved the man, not the uniform.

  • About the shaved womens at the during the liberation ? Yes i don't feel proud of this. Most were just in love with a german soldier and were shaved because of a sexist sentiment in the population, but let's not forget that lots of them had happily collaborated with the Germans. And what do you think happened in Germany and Austria after the Allies occupied them ?

  • Yes Nazi-lover, they quickly forgot about raising their arms, and shouting "heil hitler !" and fraternized with the occupiers, and yes brothels in Germany and Austria had a lot of clients from the Allied soldiers at the time. Still not suffering any stroke or mental disorder ? Because those information must have shaken your stupid beliefs quite a bit, if not, then you're simply dumber that I thought. Oh, and by the way, I'm not hating the Germans of today for their Grandfathers crimes.

  • Oh, and when i implied that you can't know a thing about being occupied, bombed, etc,...because you're spanish and Spain never knew that...I was wrong obviously, Spanish civil war, Peninsula war, rings a bell ? Spain suffered years of bloodywar along with atrocities, famines, bombing of civilians, etc... so you should be quite aware of what it's like being occupied by a totalitarian army. Except if you think Franco was good for you're country, if you think so,...you're definitely a neo-Nazi.

  • Piss off you big poof.

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  • sois todos idiotas, os que ganham a guerra são os que controlam a maquina de guerra, quem tem mais armas ou bombas ganha. e para isso nada melhor que o modelo autocratico liberal do capitalismo.

  • Il semble que "Marienfeld07" s'offusque de ce vidéogramme !! "sans que les faits concrets soient établis" !! allez donc faire un tour dans ce village, et voyez les photos des cadavres de bébés et d'enfants et vous verrez que c'est tout-à-fait réel. moi, ce qui m'offusque c'est que vous osiez nier ce fait

  • 2 rules of war

    1 shoot the other guy

    2 when you fall down, you lose

  • Many British and American units shot SS prisoners routinely, which explained, as much as the fanatical resistance that the SS so often offered, why so few appeared in POW cages." The inescapable reality of the battle for Normandy was that whenever Allied troops met Germans on anything like equal terms, the Germans nearly always prevailed." This was because"This is a simple truth that some soldiers and writers have been reluctant to acknowledge."

    Buy Max Hastings books,then apologize to Bert

  • Thanks for the book recommendation.May I recommend one for you: "Elementary Irony Detection" by B.Bunny

  • The average German soldier was probably better than the average Allied soldier. But in the end it's not what an individual soldier can do, it's what an entire army or unit can do. Also, the Americans in Bastogne held off every German attack on their position. And they were low on supplies, surrounded and without air cover.

  • I think the big difference was that the average German solider had done more fighting than the average Allied soldier. Once the Allies gained combat experience they were on more equal terms. Just like in the Battle of Britain, the Luftwaffe tactics were superior at the beginning but we soon learned from our mistakes.

  • Very true.

  • I feel as bad for German pows being shot as I do when a murderer is shanked in prison. The men of the German army fought to enslave the rest of Europe. They desserved what they got, and so did Germany.

  • Yes, left as it was, I have visited that place before and it is eery that is for sure. You can't help but feel a tear in your eye for mans inhumanity to man. Moving visit and even more moving to know how the people dired and to see the memorial. Brulee par les allemands ( burnt by the Germans)

  • .relative à la prévention et à la répression des infractions sexuelles ainsi qu'à la protection des mineurs, de proposer, de donner, de louer ou de vendre à des mineurs le vidéogramme intitulé Oradour-sur-Glane; est interdite sous les mêmes peines la publicité faite pour cette vidéocassette par quelque moyen que ce soit en dehors des lieux dont l'accès est interdit aux mineurs.

    If you have any question, please do and only then reply about the real story of what happened in Oradour!!

  • ..la tragédie d'Oradour-sur-Glane et sans que les faits concrets qu'il allègue soient établis, ce document procède à un traitement complaisant de crimes de guerre et que le contenu de ce document présente un danger dont il y a lieu de protéger tout particulièrement des mineurs qui ne sont pas à même de porter une appréciation sur les affirmations qui y sont proférées, il est interdit, sous les peines prévues au sixième alinéa de l'article 36 de la loi n° 98-468 du 17 juin 1998..

  • [French Government decree bans video on true history of 1944 Oradour massacre]

    Vidéocassette Oradour interdite aux mineurs

    10 octobre

    JOURNAL DE LA REPUBLIQUE FRANÇAISE 15923

    MINISTÈRE DE L'INTÉRIEUR

    Arrêté du 27 septembre 2001 portant interdiction de proposer, de donner, de louer ou de vendre à des mineurs et de faire de la publicité d'une vidéocassette

    NOR : INTD0100584A

    Par arrêté du ministre de l'intérieur en date du 27 septembre 2001, considérant qu'au prétexte d'une enquête sur..

  • Having been brought up in Manchester which along with many other British cities were bombed efficiently by Hitler's heros.

    I feel very upset if German prisoners of war were treated badly by the allies. At least they were not shot on capture ,which the Germans did to many RAF personnel.Ironically one German pow became quite a local hero in Manchester - we didn't shoot him (Bert Trautman) we enslaved him and forced him to play goalkeeper for Manchester City

  • What happened here was a crime against humanity. Reprisals in revenge of atrocities caused by partisans?? Nazis. They invaded a country! What mercy should they expect from partisans defending their land? And to inflcit this revenge on innocent men women and children. Scum.

  • That was probably the legacy of Gestapo or Security Police covering the retreat of the regular German Army or retaliating against French Partisans. It only takes a few murderous monsters to cast a dark shadow on a whole army because of the magnitude of their crimes. Sadly, the human mind cannot deal with the reality of such tragic event so we generalized our view of a group of people based on the actions of a few in cases like this, 9-11 was a case for us in the U.S. today with tragic results.

  • Euroman25 - the answer is yes. It was left as a memorial.

  • Is that village still like this in France today?

  • chilling

  • Not just the best documentary on WW2 but possibly the best documentary ever. Its research and interviews with key people who were involved in events makes it an historic document in it own right. It does just what a documntary should do, it documents the era while the eywitnesses were still alive. Lesser works just reprocess existing material.

  • The Best Tv Serie ever about World War 2 with witness on the winning and losing sides and the narration of Sir Laurence Oliver. We will never see a documentary like that ever again.

  • Indeed so .. Unless you live in the u.k this series may be lost to you.. but it is the best series on WW two ...so many people who are no longer with us were interviewed

  • "Unless you live in the u.k this series may be lost to you.."

    I live in the US and it is in my local library. I grew up watching Thames docs and have a fondness for them. :)

  • yes Thames docs was so great but as always British TV rules around the world

  • I agree with all my heart. This documentary is still as impressing as when it was broadcasted for the first time. It had a perfect timing for interviewing witnesses who were adults during the war, some of them in high positions in the nazi regime. Others from the allies, also close to the power during wartime. And of course many civilians from different countries, surviving these five years of nightmare. This documentary are the absolute must-see, and yes: Sir Larry narrates.

  • @DarthCrimson

    Many of the soldiers sent to massacre the western French village of Oradour-sur-Glane were from Alsace- it was a deliberate ploy to create emnity towards Alsace in the rest of France.

  • @anonUK  ???

  • Watched this series as a child on TV with my older brother in the mid-70s. I'm older now, but the narration and opening scene still gives me the CHILLS.

  • I watched this when I was in my teens. It is so sad how man has dominated man to his injury. The only way we will ever have peace on Earth is when God takes over the rulership over mankind. Matthew 6:9-10.

  • leonjay1 the end of whose world if obama gets in ?

  • This is what the nazis did this is why they musnt ever Come back

  • Wow.

  • great voice narrated by olivier, great music carl davis, the best documentary of world awr 2.

  • In my opinion- best documentary ever re world war 2. Really moving music as well.

  • Not just your opinion, but a fact that this was the best WW2 documentary ever. And great opening music as well. On the rare occasion I hear it, it brings me right back to my childhood when the series first aired. Damn trash TV stations these days don't want to rerun this stuff for new generations of people who haven't seen it before.

  • Elhardt; You are absolutely right on both points, this is the best ever ww2 doco and the tv stations today with their crap reality shows that could only possibly interest a child,-are way out of touch."Those who forget history are condemned to re-live it."TV executives would do well to remember this.

  • "'Those who forget history are condemned to re-live it.'TV executives would do well to remember this."

    Not only that, but if insanity is doing the same over and over again expecting different results, then humans truly are led by the insane.

  • I have it now on DVD, is excellent beacuse it describes the events and the people involved in them in a professional way. It shows no real biases for or against one side or the other unlike the other later WWII documentaries.

  • I'm sure your dad had alot more respect for freedom of speech then you do...The day we stop criticising ourselves and our leaders is the day facism will rise again. Think about that before you make more disrespectfull comments like this.

  • Agree, rikmeter!

    Remember the dead (which is the closing scene i A World at War). I visited Lidice and Oradour some years ago, and both are paces to be humble and remember.

  • Shame on you. At least pay some respect.

    Go read "Das Reich" by Max Hastings, then I think your mind is changed.

  • I am a refugee in a country I was not born in. Had to run away. Thank God for America. The only country in the world to stand up against the ridiculous political correctness that engulfs our planet. Fuck everyone else and God Bless America from a South African. Wush I was American! A bit concerned about the latest polls though. If Obama (or whatever his goddamn name is) gets in, it may be the end of the world as we know it.

  • are you stupid or something?

  • I won't bore you with my tertiary qualifications. Suffice to say that I am not stupid. My views are based on years of political struggle and study of political systems, not to mention personal experience. Thank you for your intelligent and eloquent submission.

  • Please do bore me with you teriary qualifications you imbecile. Eloquent no, direct yes. I am Oxbridge grad and have met enough of the latter to know they talk a good game and deliver zilch. Obviously if your education includes OU then we can review your patronisig comments.

    End of the world as we know it - take it the quals are in amateur dramatics. Why - because he is articulate or a msulim or neither.

  • Thank God for that closet communist Roosevelt or else US would be have been a dead duck nowadays subservant to fascists.

  • Great music, scenery etc. I particularly enjoy the "Thames" intro..

  • My god, we stumbled across this in History yesterday, we were looking for Franz Ferdinand being shot! I will never be able to erase that great big, in-my-face 'WORLD AT WAR' from my mind.

  • The only man ever to have been judged for this massacre, Heinz Barth's death at the age of 86 was announced on 14 August 2007 by a priest in Gransee. However, the priest would only say that he died within the last few days of cancer, and did not disclose the place or exact date of his death [3].

  • Emotional and thought provoking. True masterpiece. Thanks to some brilliant narration from Sir Laurence Olivier. Remember Oradour, I have been and know and have seen.

  • And at the end of the 26`s episode Sir Laurence Olivier.said:At the village of Oradour-sur-Glane, the day the soldiers came, they killed more than six hundred men, women, and children. Remember.

  • Here, they heard the firing as their men were shot. Then they were killed too. A few weeks later, many of those who had done the killing were themselves dead, in battle.

    They never rebuilt Oradour. Its ruins are a memorial. Its martyrdom stands for thousands upon thousands of other martyrdoms in Poland, in Russia, in Burma, China, in a World at War...

  • Down this road on a summer day in 1944, the soldiers came. Nobody lives here now. They stayed only a few hours. When they had gone, the community, which had lived for a thousand years, was dead.

    This is Oradour-sur-Glane, in France. The day the soldiers came, the people were gathered together. The men were taken to garages and barns, the women and children were led down this road, and they were driven into this church.

  • This documentary was my introduction to WWII historiography. I watched it as a kid with my parents in the 70s. The haunting music sure brings back memories

  • Oradour were destroyed by Alsatian-SS.

  • A few of the soldiers tried for war crimes spoke French.

  • That's not surprising. Many members of the 2nd SS Panzer Division (Das Reich) were Alsatians and this was the same unit implicated here at Oradour.

  • I have never heard of this but it looks good

  • my parents use to make us watch this as kids to...brings back memories watching it on wor tv channel 9 in new york

  • Saloprie de nazi, j'espère que l'enfer existe pour les les trous du cul comme hitler et les merdes qui l'ont suivi. Qu'ils brûlent en enfer pour toujours!

  • The Thames television logo at the start brings back some memories too...

  • It reminds me of GCSE History.... good programes, good opening sequnece, good choice of music.

  • My parents made us watch this program as kids. I think it's still the best documentary of the war ever compiled and Sir laurence Oliver's narration is incredible.

  • I remember as a kid my parents had us watch this program on TV every Sunday. This is without doubt the best documentary of the war ever made. Sir Laurence Oliver's narration is incredible. First broadcast in 1973 I believe.

  • The definative documentary series about ww2 !!  brilliant..

  • Hellooo... does anybody know who the person at the end of the opening credits is please?

  • If you mean that ghostly outline of a face, I assume its a random archive photo, I would be surprised if that person's identity is known or knowable.

  • uktv history plays the world at war all the time really good programme

  • Nobody lives here now

  • exactly, Remember Oradour! The soldiers were from Der fuhrer regiment of Das Reich

  • il ne faut jamais oublier Oradour sur Glane !

    Remember Oradour !

  • "Down this road, on a summer day in 1944, the soldiers came." I will never tire of this documentary. Timeless.

  • "They never rebuilt Oradour; its ruins are a memorial. Its martyrdom stands for thousands upon thousands of other martyrdoms in Poland, Russia, Burma, China...in a World at War."

  • We need more videos about Oradour. Its a forgotten tragedy!

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