street fighter 3 - red parrying shin shoryuken

[LAHrebirth]

parry system was kind of cheap if you're a genius and can master fast parrying

doesn't affect HP at all

hence why SF4 removed it....even focus parry takes damage

[SkuldBR]

@LAHrebirth yeah... and how many genious you know that can parry every hit? Parry system is pretty good, it brings more emotion to the battle. If there wasn't a parry system like that we would never see a fight like Daigo vs. Justin. That was good enough to be on the trials of the SF3TSOE mentioned as "EVO Moment #37"

[lakers24kobecolts18]

what does red parrying mean?

[Zeronum2]

@lakers24kobecolts18 Parrying during blockstun.

[MooMooCow95]

I did this with Rose once. Everybody was freaked out because they all think that Rose sucks. I showed them wrong lol

[AgrivatedKillah]

@MooMooCow95 Lmao rose isnt even in third strike.

[MooMooCow95]

@AgrivatedKillah Not in this one, in one of the newer ones that came out.

[AgrivatedKillah]

@MooMooCow95  You can't even parry in the new one smfh

[neon6]

@MooMooCow95 Sure you're not referring to Alpha 3?

[alejandroberlin]

DAMN...FIRST..DON'T SPEAK FOR THE "PARRY" ON SF...FIRST BUY THE FUCKING GAME..THEN..SPEAK WHATEVER YOU WANT FROM IT...BYE SUCKERS..YOU ARE ALWAYS THE SAME..THE FUCKEST AMERICAN SPIRIT INTERNET FIGHTER...

[Kareemchen]

i can haz shoryuken

[SirApocalypsew00721]

I don't really play this game because I find the whole parrying deal somewhat difficult. Eventhough I don't play I enjoy watching matches. Can someone tell me what the difference between a red parry and a regular one is? Thanks

[NaraSasuke]

@SirApocalypsew00721

A blue parry is when someone does a move and press forward at the right time to "absorb" the hit.

A red parry is when someone does a move, you block and THEN parry the next hit of the combo.

It only appears when you are blocking a move and it is more difficult than the blue parry. you have to be more precise.

[SirApocalypsew00721]

@NaraSasuke Oh I see. Thanks for the enlightenment and the time:)

[SmokieMcPot86]

a game being difficult is a terrible reason not to play a game.

But red parries come from parrying immediately after blocking one hit.

[DanCiTi]

I think everyone likes parrys because they are so flashy but simple, at least I do.

[kilekun]

parry does not promote variety, it promotes homogeneity.

-viscant

also, it's funny, this doesn't look like 3s because it doesn't have chun or yun.

[BakerCk6]

youre a big fat homo who need to fuck off

[SiegCabbit]

SFIV is like teletubies or mario party. I guess its okay if you like that kind of thing, each to their own. I personally prefer a more hardcore fighter, ie one with a steep learning curve, variety of command normals and a good defence mechanism to punish patterns with.

SFIV even on PS3/360 is sort of like a mini game. (Where you dodge blue fireballs.) Thats coo' though, with the advent of the Wii they're quite popular. Just not my thing.

[Trazzster]

i only play hardcore games for hardcore gamers such as myself

[trizizzle032]

I know its so balanced and theres no genei jin or parries and theres no broken supers so gayy

[OwnageEngine]

@trizizzle032 How the hell are parries broken?

[gekkomt]

i've never thought of this before! now i can punish my friend! thanks

[JaySkuh]

you dont have to parry a BLOCK super art, Shin Shoryken does like no block damage, go ahead n try i gekkomt, if you fuck the parry your just gunna get hit by Ryu best Super art....

[Brandon72196]

EPIC

[Numinor31]

uuuuuuuh...

fuck you too?...

:p

[skatestar178]

i think instead of marvel vs capcom thy should have brought this game to xbox live arcade i would buy it in a heartbeaat

[butterscotchcookie]

I Definitely agree with you!

[strongblackman]

they should put both man mvc2 is a badass game

[strider975]

I agree, but I still have this for Dreamcast. But they should keep both MvC2 AND Street Fighter 3. Street Fighter 3 for when you want a serious, balanced, rely on your timing fighting game. MvC2 for when you get mad from losing and just choose Cable, Sentinel, and Juggernaut then mash buttons for insta-win.

[tesujimonkey]

SF3 Balanced???

get outa here.

[strider975]

How is it NOT balanced? Twelve can transform into you? He is WEAK and takes TONS of damage. Gill is hard. NOT CHEAP, but hard. You just gotta know how to beat him. Besides, he's a boss. He SHOULD be hard. Akuma. Super powerful, but Raging Demon = EASY to avoid, and his down, down, down, punch X3 super only does alot of damage if it is in the PERFECT position. And still, all these things can be avoided by one thing. PARRY.

[tesujimonkey]

if this game were balanced, you wouldn't see top players playing only chun, yun, makoto, and ken. just compare the diversity to sfiv.

[strider975]

I never said this game was balanced compared to SFIV. Besides, there are even a few cheap-o's in SFIV. I FRIKKING HATE ONLINE ZANGIEFS THAT SPAM LARIAT AND WHEN I'M KNOCKED DOWN, THEY KEEP JUMPING AND ONCE I GET UP, SPINNING PILE DRIVER. I can't stand that. Also, this is pretty self explanatory:

"TIGER SHOT! TIGER SHOT! TIGER SHOT! TIGER SHOT!"

[crashowerride]

agreed, i just wish those chars are banned or at least some no-spam-gameplay

[viataliy]

as if top players don't also use ryu, akuma, hugo, ibuki and others?

just so happens that those characters you name have some pretty sick death combos, but sfiv not only has death combos also but a mode that even trains you to use the combos

though i like how sfiv has the system that reduces long combos, but players just get around that by resetting their combos...

eitherway it takes a lot of skill to use the "imbalancedness"

mvc2 takes no skill i think strider may have been trying to say

[SukiyakixD]

reseting in SFIV = Shoryuken FADC >ultra.

Or just a back dash to safety.

Stupid stiff defensive game.

3S all the way

[Kashground]

you named one out of 35 other combos.well 125 if you include the others

[leFiareFox]

there are always going to be "best" cast members in any game. Else you'd just be playing a game with people who all do the same moves.

Parries open up options to make this game balanced by presenting more winnable situations. But it doesn't break the game because parrying itself becomes dangerous in high level play.

[leFiareFox]

first hit of KKZ is not parry-able

[SectorXY2]

@skatestar178  They r releasing this game on the arcade soon

[Druscaelan]

@skatestar178 1 year later, it is coming

[InfomercialRemixer]

@skatestar178 Agreed. If they brought this game to XBL I would play it all day. Marvel is just full of spammers or people that use nothing but top tier characters (Mag, Sent, Storm, Cable, ect.)

[Zeronum2]

@InfomercialRemixer Lol get ready for the Chun and Ken

[koufdell]

@skatestar178 your wish has been granted

sorry i'm late(necro style)...

[BREATHxOFxHEAVEN]

@skatestar178 this game is coming to xbox live arcade. search for it on gametrailers

[AbsenceCOD]

@BREATHxOFxHEAVEN look at when he posted dude. lol

[misterlestrade]

@skatestar178 looks like you finally got your wish

[xxtheklonexx]

@skatestar178 your wish.... is lives command 

[TheDeadpoolOwns]

@skatestar178

Capcom: Since we're so awesome, we'll grant your wish!

[GrillinMahToast]

@skatestar178 lol well they did

[kilekun]

Regardless of the parrying system and juggles, the low tier characters have to work three or four times as hard as others. This game wasn't balanced. Not saying it wasn't fun or even great, because it was both.. but balanced? lol!

[TriniDaddi]

Maybe, but then that makes me a god cause i use to play as dudley and q and use to fuck people up.

[kilekun]

who cares if you fuck up some scrubs.

we're talking about good players here.

[uuumdm]

Interesting. I still don't know what a red parry is or how to do it. Someone educate me?

[Danny22000]

a red parry is the same as a normal parry but it has a smaller window if timing and it is done while you are still in block stun

[sKitzr]

well same effect but you get a lil bit of life.

[GanstaRice]

red parry is when you block the first hit and parry the second hit. however its harder to exacute since the timing has to be close to perfect for you to red parry.

[uuumdm]

Are there any positive consequences or is it worth more points on the score? I've heard rumors that it recovers health.

[GanstaRice]

no you don't gain anything from it other then not taking in some additional damage from blocking the attack.

[CtrlAltDaLEET]

fighting games are best at ARCADES or at a single console machine, making these games online is just >.>

[marchingeagle01]

yeah i hear ya

[TenchiHawkwing]

Don't know what you fools are talking about, parrying still works fine in GGPO

[marchingeagle01]

I think SF3 needs more skill than ST4. I also agree on the lack input...but dang is it awesome to parry an attack like that and comeback for the win!

[kraiden3]

sf3 did not require more skill than sf4..... but PARRYING required more skill.

any game with only 2 viable characters and infinite combos is not skilllful.

parrying was a huge tactical gambit they had, but beyond that... the game was as huge of a joke as Xmen vs streetfigher as far as balance and brain power went.

[travelscrabbler]

Ha you're joking right? Honestly, with the exception of Sean and maybe Q, this game was for the most part completely balanced. I think it was the most balanced game Capcom ever made. I mean, come on. The parrying ability and sheer flexibility with the juggles with each character made it possible to win with anyone, regardless of character advantage. Yun is top tier, but only in the hands of a pro and that goes for most of them (except Ken lol) Third Strike= Best SF after SF2 & "Colon B is Win!"

[Yellowknight888]

I completely agree, people are complaining about top players always choosing ken, chun, and yun as an indicator of the game's imbalance. I don't think it hold much water when the parrying system can override virtually any moves

[travelscrabbler]

Ha seriously, especially when you see Aruka's Ibuki or Thanatos' Oro. They're sick nasty with them. And I take back what I said about Q as I've seen quite a few videos and have actually gotten quite good with him. Aside from Sean, 3S= Balancce Kingdom. ^_^

[Numinor31]

uuuh...what do u guys mean by input lag and lag spikes?...

[kris2476]

Input lag only happens online, it's where there's a slight delay between what you input, and when it actually does it in game.

Lag spikes are when the game becomes incredibly slow all of a sudden, which pretty much just throws you right off your game when it happens.

[badash786]

Man this is why i love SF3 you can turn a match around with a parry like that... excellent!

[Numinor31]

yes that's why they should've put the parry shit in sf4...

[Numinor31]

but sf2 doesnt have neat supermoves :)

i havent played sf4 yet tho :(

but sf3 and the EX series r my faves!

[badash786]

Sf2 HD remix is basicly super stf2 which DOES have super moves, but only 1 per character, it was and stil is THE original sf game. Its the playability that counts.

SF3 is a good progression from SF2 the character of Ryu for example is just how he should be like in the manga movie he travels the world with his bag over his shoulder. SF4 is totally different in graphical style. Doesnt fit in if you ask me. Looks odd and sucks!! lol

[Numinor31]

ofcourse i know sf2hd = super sf2 turbo, that's why i said it doesnt have NEAT supermoves ;) the supermoves of sf3 suck.

[ivaxnorris]

theres a reason sf4 doesnt have parry, capcom knew that they would be marketing the game online. so imagine how annoying it would be to parry in an online match, thats why the focus system is there, so they can whore the game out more, not to mention gouken...

[Numinor31]

?...what's annoying about parrying online :s

[xxvolkan]

input lag.

[phobophile6]

I have to agree with Ivaxnorrix. I love sf3 the most, and i love the parry system. I also play sf4 and I couldn't imagine how hard parrying would be with the lag spikes you get in the rounds online. It could ruin your match if you try to parry a huge ultra, and the lag makes you press forward too late... you're screwed. With ranked games, that would suck the most.

[ivaxnorris]

dont know why im replying to this now but anyways..parrying online would throw off everyones game because you the delay of playing games online, you have to anticipate it more then normal

[Joellechewie]

@Numinor31 The lag (When the connection between two players isn't that great, the game slows down and doesn't react to your actions) would make it confusing. For example, on your game, you would easily be able to parry a slow incoming fireball, but online, it's far away... and then BAM, it hits, and you're left confused.

[KreatorOfDeath1985]

@Numinor31

Think about the lag

that online has

even if its slight its there, so your kind of fucked unless you can see the future

[IAmKingHomey]

@Numinor31 true,... it works on ggpo so why not on the next gen consoles ? then again...(s)sfIVs netcode kinda sucks.

[FIipUoFF]

@Numinor31 The lag.

[godoftoast1989]

@Numinor31 lag.

[RevPsychobilly]

@Numinor31 people play online and they purposefully lag the game to their advantage sometimes. parrying requires good timing and a lot of the time online gaming can't compensate different speeds coming together no homo.

[BakerCk6]

the fuck is that supposed to mean

[Jsicken]

@ivaxnorris capcom knew that sf3 would take the attention away from sf4 which is why there not releasin it online. its appeal is way better than sf4s. no hate to sf4 but sf3 is much better.

[SuperDooperChan]

@Jsicken oh guess what THEY'RE RELEASING STREET FIGHTER 3: 3RD STRIKE ONLINE EDITION...OH!!!!!

[Jsicken]

@SuperDooperChan i know this. capcoms really givin gamers a choice for which game theyll main. ssf4, tvc, mvc3, sfvt sf style and now sf3 online. all im hopin for now is that its an hd remix with a more balanced cast like sf2hdr and ill be a happy man. they might even bring it back to evo. now thatll be dope. :)

[BBoyPhreshershist]

@SuperDooperChan yeah but its not coming for a while.

[SgtBhind]

@ivaxnorris you sound retarded, a more reasonable explanation would be because sf4 is ridiculously slow

[ZRyuKageZ]

@ivaxnorris well.... 1 guy can parry in ssf4 tho. gouken can parry a good number of moves, including ultras

[ImpactFrame]

I never played Street Fighter 3. How do you parry? O.o

[ReaperOfPuppets]

you press forward right as an attack hits you. so if a shinku hadoken did 9 combo damage youd havta press forward 9 times in a row exactly at the moment it'd hit you.

[slayeroflight9]

i believe its only 6 parries for that one :o

[MadXOdin]

Akuma is good(i like using all of the ryu/ken style characters)but he takes twice as more damage than other characters(i quess becouse of raging demon)

[CRAPPUCCInoo]

no, not because of raging demon.

[ReaperOfPuppets]

Akuma has a very high damage rate and 2 secret supers and lets not forget the fact that people love to abuse his air fireballs, so the creators took away his EX moves and lowered his stamina (hp). Akuma has the lowest stamina in the game.

[Pilgrimage85]

95 to be exact

[BlackFox0]

wow thats really nice

[metalgear01]

nice red parry!

[Alansr10]

nice

[SheuhX]

Aha. Sneaking some of his weed.

[921144666]

how can i be the man....when your the man?!?

[hocDirtyD]

Using Akuma?  Instant fail.

[DarkZoa1000]

akumas the top sf character man

[Jolly2Lolly]

actually he's not exactly the top but he's very very good.

[DarkZoa1000]

lol who is the top?

[Jolly2Lolly]

according to the tier list

chun li, ken, yun and makoto (this one just in japan not in usa) are top tiers.

akuma is in high tier so still cool.

i'm a noob at sf and can't really understand hy ken is stronger than akuma but hey, i'll let the pros explain o.O

[DarkZoa1000]

ken is the 3rd best but akuma is own him.

[Fenikkusu00]

Akuma isn't higher because he takes hits like a 7 year old anorexic schoolgirl, while Ken is overly balanced in every aspect.

[DarkZoa1000]

akuma def is low due to his high offense. his offense is highjer then most characters even gill

[CiciColino]

still, akuma doesn't have any traits the top tiers have. Chun and Ken have amazing special moves, yun has incredible combo possibilities and mixups. Even if Akuma does more damage, his low stamina and poor (overall) specials just don't grant him top tier.

[RoboKenshiro]

Which explains one thing. There's nothin'but chun-li's at frickin EVO.

ONLY ONE AKUMA MADE IT.

[Numinor31]

hhahaha :b didnt notice that :)

[jamiany]

:b <333

[dezinfectant]

Is it kind of "just defend" in Garou Mark of The Wolves?

[AgentSpinhead]

sort of there are diffrent imputs to parrying and JD's but bith shear equal rewards

[strazzdaking]

weird.

not many gouki players use SA2.

looks good in this instance but not very useful otherwise.

[streetfighterlover]

so you can buy this seperate for ps2?

and its online?

[Numinor31]

no. if i'm not mistaken sf3 is only released for the dreamcast years ago.

in 2005 "sf2 - the aniversary collection" was relased for the american ps2 and european+american x-box, including the animated movie + sf3 3rd strike.

i had to convert my ps2 to play this bitch :)

a friend of mine downloaded the US sf2 anniversary collection for us.

the japanese sf3 3rd strike is released for ps2 tho...

[xgunnBlaze]

Yes, Its on PS2 in Japan and in America you can just get Street Fighter Anniversary Collection.

[suparstarx]

one of the most epic looking red parry i have seen.

[Eberflame]

nice!!! I don´t no the move to red parry. =(

[LovesToSpooge77]

this sucks

[Numinor31]

because youtube made the quality fuckin suck?

:)

[jeraigumo]

They did that to a couple of vids I had too so I had to take them off. Youtube can suck sometimes.

[protoman385]

numinor, i admire technical players, the fact that you followed the red parry with a few normal parries shows it wasn't luck.

i'd love to play against you man.

[Numinor31]

heheh thank you.

and i love to play against other people than my friends (who suck at this) too.

you play this game online?

i have the files but didnt try it yet...

[protoman385]

are you talking about the xbox version, or was there some other method? that'd be awesome.

[Numinor31]

now that you mention it, is it possible to play this online with the x-box?

i was talkin about an emulator for the pc...

[TheREALSisko]

you can play 3rd strike online with MAME on your PC

[BraveUlysses01]

Excellent vid. How the hell did it get a 2 star rating!?

[ghoulser234]

good vid :P