Walt Mossberg: "Bill Gates is Going to Destroy Apple!"

[hardmantenbillion]

I'm not the hugest fan of apple, but if i was i would be embarrassed by this video. It makes Mac users look ignorant and pathetic.

[amd246linux]

Holy crap- do...do my eyes deceive me? A SERIOUS conversation on YouTube?

[arronhunt]

Bill Gates Puppet! WOOOO

[eddjcaine]

No. I don't understand. On the one hand you're saying that things should be opened you should have choice, and on the other side you decide to restrict the choice to PC manufacturers only. People should know more things? WHY? why is it important for a doctor or a baker or whoever to know the intimate workings of a computer? "better of humanity"? Fuck that. I'm not carrying on this conversation. You're just being a bit of a computer facist.

[kakkoister]

I really hate Apple's totalitarian attitude with their hardware and software. It's not good for the computer industry. Sure the hardware itself is ok, but everything else about it is horrible. It's like they want to control every aspect of what you do, what hardware and software you can use. It's sickening.

[fritzywolf]

It's a tossup, by maintaining their "purity" apple is keeping itself keep free of the problems that plague the rest of the computing industry. For the clever consumer there's ways around it anyway.

[eddjcaine]

it's not about control. It's about quality. The reason Microsoft has such buggy operating system is it has to cater to an enormous number of hardware configurations...

[kakkoister]

It's not the operating system that's buggy though. It's a bit of bad coding for drivers among the tons of different hardware you could have. Buy quality hardware and you won't have a problem.

And it is about control, Apple want's to control all aspects of it so that money is only going towards them.

[eddjcaine]

You've just made my own point - by restricting the available hardware to good quality components, Apple improves tenfold the stability of its operating system. You say you're being controlled, but to have a good microsoft installation, you too need good quality hardware. It's not about money - why do you think microsoft is so ludicrously wealthy? because they bang their operating system onto everything and anything whether it runs or not...

[kakkoister]

Lol, they don't bang their OS onto everything and anything. Again, that has nothing to do with them. Let's say I want to create some sort of PCI card for computers that announces the time or some shit. Well I then have to program the software for that card to run on Windows. Microsoft has no hand in that. It's up to me to make stable code that doesn't crash the operating system.

Good quality hardware for Windows isn't hard to find. You have an abundance of stable choices. Unlike Mac's.

[eddjcaine]

[sigh] well get a PC then and quit bitching about macs. I personally find that, despite being an insanely heavy user (I use my mac around 10 hours a day and throw all sorts of graphics, audio, programming and normal every day word pr and office tasks at it all the time) I have yet to actually needed to add any additional PCI hardware. When I do add any external USB hardware I find there is an enormous range of great alternatives. Software - entirely up to the people that make it. Not Apple.

[kakkoister]

I have a PC, obviously. And I do all of that with mine also. Spend my whole day on my computer, it's where my jobs at. With a PC, your able to upgrade the parts you need instead of buying a whole new freaking Mac computer for over $1000-2000. I wanna add the upcoming Nvidia GTX380 into my PC? Sure! Hell, maybe I'll SLI it! I wanna put a better processor in? Sure! Any freaking part I wanna change I can without worry. It's not good to create closed standards. We need an open world.

[eddjcaine]

Well good for you. That's why Apple aren't the only computer vendor in the world. Hell there are loads. Help yourself. Upgrade away. good for you.

Won't stop my liking my mac sorry - quite happy with the processor in there (it's not such a huge issue as it used to be anyway) and actually I *can* upgrade my graphics card. By the time I feel it's necessary to upgradethe chip I'll be happy to get a new mac, because everything in it will be new, good quality and work together with no glitches.

[kakkoister]

The only parts that need upgrading are the CPU/GPU/Motherboard & Ram if you need more of it or faster. The rest of your computer is fine and hasn't really degraded in quality. Cost's can be cut quite a bit by not buying a whole new computer. That money saved could go towards even better components.

And you have to wait for Mac versions of GPU's to upgrade. Which come much later, and extremely limited choice.

It's OEM's and their crappy injected software that is creating most of the problems.

[kakkoister]

And you can like Mac's all you want. But I'm not going to stand up for a company that has such a controlling attitude. Apple's even threatened sites who post how to run OS X on hardware other than their own. That kind of attitude isn't good for the future of the computing industry.

[eddjcaine]

Dude - Microsoft goes into lawsuits for exactly the same reason - No matter what any operating system runs on, you have to have a license to use it - yes even Linux (that license just happens to be free). Apple just don't license it out (they tried for a while, but the mac clone market sucked...)

Anyway, sod it - I'm not interested in the Apple v. Microsoft debate - you sir are a dying breed. The computer market is much more consumer orientated than it used to be.

[eddjcaine]

... and what average consumer is even bothered about upgrades, or even what computer they use? so long as it works it's good, and people tend to prefer things that look nice - something Microsoft deftly admitted in Windows Vista and 7. Your average shloe wouldn't know how to start upgrading their computer and ironically, would pay someone like you, and probably more than it would cost to buy a new machine. Oh well, hey ho, that's how it goes. Forget it, it's not worth the argument.

[eddjcaine]

All you're essentially arguing is that you prefer PCs. Good - excellent! PCs are excellent computers, as are Macs.

[kakkoister]

I'm arguing for a better future. I never said Mac's aren't good computers. It's APPLE that I don't like, understand?

[kakkoister]

It wouldn't cost anywhere near as much as buying a whole new machine. And upgrade job takes a couple of minutes, from install to testing. That kind of service isn't worth anymore than $20.

Windows 7 not looking nice is your point of view. It's not what your used to. But it is for me, and thus I find it the most organized and good looking. Plus it's easily customizable.

And anyways, people should be willing to learn news things, for the better of humanity. It's not that hard to learn.

[kakkoister]

This isn't even about Microsoft. It's about PC's. Windows isn't the only OS that can be installed on various hardware.

I'm talking about Apple vs Open Standards. If Apple somehow prevails and gains majority market share, that's not good for the industry. As they try to control what hardware consumers use, and what software they use, to try and create a monopoly of the industry. And Apple based hardware future is not one any smart person would want. Plus Mac's virus vacation is over then.

[eddjcaine]

see my post in the thread - accidentally did it as a comment then youtube wouldn't let me change it to a reply.

[eddjcaine]

Plus - I really don't think you understand how this works.

Deal is this - in the 90s, Apple was struggling. Badly. Microsoft dominated the scene, and still does. But in order to use a PC you needed a certain amount of expertise, you needed to be like you.

Steve Jobs saw a gap in the market for cool, easy to use computers, and exploited it. Bam! Apple is back and enjoying great profits.

It's as simple as that. I have no doubt that if Apple WERE the dominant company, they would be very diff.

[eddjcaine]

And apart from anything else - do you know of any other industry where you can chop and change your product? If you get haircare products, do you expect to be able to choose the ingredients? No. You get a limited range of premade options in a variety of flavours. Just like PCs, Just like Macs. Why is that so bad? You want to make your own PCs? Nothing stopping you - Apple could never stop you. It could only stop you using their products on it, and that's entirely thier choice. Rightly So.

[1Pelito1]

I liked it, shut up!

[waste234]

Haha, awesome. That's a perfect Steve Jobs puppet.

[gator420]

Great stuff!!...So like this spin on the tech world.

[theoriginalKland]

Hold on... Deja vu? Didn't MS do the exact same thing in 97?.. Wasn't it 150 million then as well?

[theoriginalKland]

LMAO! nvm... I should have waited till the end of the video.

[Vitacus]

Bring back Palpatine. LEss tech rants, more Q&A with the singing Emperor.

[mrhogg]

More Palpatine is in the works.

[WrathOfTheGate87]

hey any uodates with the new vader? i have been totally in a vast sea of befuddlement on how youll make the new vader into a puppet when you guys chose the better vader. also did stephen accept the colbert puppet challenge?

[mrhogg]

New Vader is perpetually on the list of things to do. If I do a season 2, I might change up the format a bit, make him featured.

Sadly, Stephen Colbert didn't accept the challenge, no.

[destronia123]

HOOOORAY!

[Derf2k7]

I disagree. More Walt Mossberg, less Palpatine. So much funnier.

[johnsingh07]

sent my 1000 thought the post :)

[Joshlama]

When nothing happened in Apple land, (except maybe something with Jason Callicannis talking about his love/hate relationship with apple, and Leo and the TWIT's commenting on it) Walt talks about old news.

[naboob]

haha. free entertainment's the best

[sharonafox1]

Sooo funny.

Wow, I can't believe this channel. I love Walt Mossberg. He is my hero. He did a column which inspired me to push enough buttons on my computer to figure out how to film myself and upload my first video to youtube for the CNN presidential debate. If it wasn't for Mossberg I never would have started my youtube sites.

Thank you Walt.

This puppet is awesome...I'm always blown away with the talent on this site.

[iMike360]

wow old news :)

[sockpeople]

ive bought a lot of apple products.

[misticity24]

First! amazing! :)