Anyone who says there are not alternatives to animal research and testing is a liar, confused or not. There are, in fact, alternatives, and the alternatives need to be used, as opposed to animal models. I support the Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine.
There is simply no need to inflict suffering on animals for the so-called benefit of human beings.
They have found replacements for a few individual bits of animal research, but there is much research that can be done no other way - for instance how would you study the effect of a certain gene, or indeed identify a certain gene, responsible for a genetic disease - you can't start making genetically modified children to test your theories.
@liberationi AFAIK, nobody is saying there are no alternatives. However, I've seen animal rights activists claim that *everything* can be replaced with a non-animal model, which not true.
Also, scientists are required by law to use alternatives whenever they are available.
@liberationi I hope you don't live in a house (animals have to be forcefully evicted from theirs for yours to be built) or else you have benefitted from animal suffering. :(
Sick, perverted, abusive individuals trying to hide their true work by flaunting their innocent side in front of a visible camera. The truth comes out with hidden, undercover camera. We seen the footage of vivisectors punching 3 month old beagle puppies in the face. We seen the footage of live monkeys being cut open alive. Explain that.
Have you been in a lab, I've walked round labs in the UK and US, and been thoroughly impressed by the standards of care. There are animal care technicians who's only job is to ensure the welfare of these animals. The HLS-beagle incident was unfortunate and I'm glad criminal charges were brought against the two individuals involved. However there were 500 hours of footage taken of which only 30 mins worth were usable as "look at the terrible conditions".
okay hey animal testing is not nice. but everyone tries to keep it as nice as possible. because animal testing and research is necessary for both human and also veterinarian medicine. And don't say that there are alternatives. if there were any, why would scientists use animals? because they're sadists? no. because it's cheaper? No, the labs are really expensive! the reason why there are animals used is because there aren't any alternatives.
Animal rights activists will take videos of the worst places they can find. Even if what they film is an exception, they'll treat it as though it's the norm.
There has been more than one occasion where ARAs have actually instructed people to commit acts of cruelty so they could take the footage they wanted.
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Sasha2010Fierce 1 year ago
Think harder. That is all I need to say for that one.
liberationi 2 years ago
Anyone who says there are not alternatives to animal research and testing is a liar, confused or not. There are, in fact, alternatives, and the alternatives need to be used, as opposed to animal models. I support the Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine.
There is simply no need to inflict suffering on animals for the so-called benefit of human beings.
It needs to end!
liberationi 2 years ago
They have found replacements for a few individual bits of animal research, but there is much research that can be done no other way - for instance how would you study the effect of a certain gene, or indeed identify a certain gene, responsible for a genetic disease - you can't start making genetically modified children to test your theories.
LondonProphet 2 years ago
@liberationi AFAIK, nobody is saying there are no alternatives. However, I've seen animal rights activists claim that *everything* can be replaced with a non-animal model, which not true.
Also, scientists are required by law to use alternatives whenever they are available.
SyeraMiktayee 1 year ago
@liberationi I hope you don't live in a house (animals have to be forcefully evicted from theirs for yours to be built) or else you have benefitted from animal suffering. :(
Fleefles 10 months ago
seems like a happy monkey to me.
pinkhazey 2 years ago
Sick, perverted, abusive individuals trying to hide their true work by flaunting their innocent side in front of a visible camera. The truth comes out with hidden, undercover camera. We seen the footage of vivisectors punching 3 month old beagle puppies in the face. We seen the footage of live monkeys being cut open alive. Explain that.
studywar 3 years ago
Have you been in a lab, I've walked round labs in the UK and US, and been thoroughly impressed by the standards of care. There are animal care technicians who's only job is to ensure the welfare of these animals. The HLS-beagle incident was unfortunate and I'm glad criminal charges were brought against the two individuals involved. However there were 500 hours of footage taken of which only 30 mins worth were usable as "look at the terrible conditions".
LondonProphet 3 years ago 4
Yep. They aren't showing electroejaculation, monkeys mutilating themselves, or cage madness.
chinpoz 3 years ago
electroejaculation is used in humans. I agree it sounds horrible, but it is actually a pain free way of stimulating ejaculation.
UKdoc85 2 years ago
okay hey animal testing is not nice. but everyone tries to keep it as nice as possible. because animal testing and research is necessary for both human and also veterinarian medicine. And don't say that there are alternatives. if there were any, why would scientists use animals? because they're sadists? no. because it's cheaper? No, the labs are really expensive! the reason why there are animals used is because there aren't any alternatives.
oxyTV 3 years ago 6
Animal rights activists will take videos of the worst places they can find. Even if what they film is an exception, they'll treat it as though it's the norm.
There has been more than one occasion where ARAs have actually instructed people to commit acts of cruelty so they could take the footage they wanted.
Does that explain it well enough for you?
SyeraMiktayee 3 years ago 4
cute
LondonProphet 3 years ago