...and a leftwing middle class fag trendy fuck who is absolutely convinced that he is superior to everyone else. And also completely incurious to any other alternative view.
Australia cant make a difference to climate change
Chiina builds an airport every 45 days bigger than Tullamarine
Adam Bandt is an educated man and an idealist but he cannot be taken seriously if he thinks Australia going down this track will do anything but cost jobs for some Australians
Tell us Adam what will Australia achieve while India the US and China increase pollution at astrominical speeds
When people lose their jobs over this you will be to blame
climate change is doctored statistics they are not going to do any thing besides tax you for carbon and both sides slightly diffrent still have the new world order as there number one agenda
Nuclear Power is the second safest energy source in the world. Why are the Greens supporting Wind Power, such a vile energy source slaughtering birds and hurting our poor farmers health, when Nuclear Power is so much safer and better?
the greens are just part ofthe labor party and anyone who thinks different is kidding themselves, all you rich trendy eastern suburbs people and arty farty ones living in inner cities keep voting green and all mum and dads money house and extra goes to the gov. not you think about, you just ahave to live in moderation and not have people ramming lies at us all the time
By saying the greens are the same as labor is like saying the nationals are the same as the liberals.. in fact the nats are probably more alike to the libs then the greens are to the ALP.. All the money they raise through tax gets put back into the community, there strong climate change policy is preserving the world for the future.. to be honest id willingly live in a Marxist sociology, as long as it wasn't corrupt.. watch?v=OQWz3VxxMlc&feature=relmfu there's proof there different..
History is being made this election Adam. The Greens whose policies are NOT GREEN are having the rug pulled right out from under their feet by trying to play both sides of the political table.
You lost the unlosable election, trying to play the majors off against each other thinking you were the only choice for them and they proved you wroing selecting each other over you and removing the likelyhood of 4 inner city lower seats
FOOL go back to Pro-Bono and GOD help the person you represent
History is being made this election Adam. The Greens whose policies are NOT GREEN are having the rug pulled right out from under their feet by trying to play both sides of the political table.
You lost the unlosable election, trying to play the majors off against each other thinking you were the only choice for them and they proved you wroing selecting each other over you and removing the likelyhood of 4 inner city lower seats
FOOLS go back to Pro-Bono and GOD help the person you represent
History is being made this election Adam. The Greens whose policies are NOT GREEN are having the rug pulled right out from under their feet by trying to play both sides of the political table.
You lost the unlosable election, trying to play the majors off against each other thinking you were the only choice for them and they proved you wroing selecting each other over you and removing the likelyhood of 4 inner city lower seats.
FOOLS go back to Pro-Bono and GOD help the person you represent
@chikkychak all he cares about is where his dick is... of all the things he could push for in Parliament in his first three months, it's now GAY MARRIAGE... and that's all it ever was!
@CrystalSeaTV That's not true... There were other important issues the greens talked about. They are probably mostly only known for the gay marriage because that's what the propaganda find interesting...They made an agreenment with labour on some of their beliefs and that did not include gay marriage. It wouldn't even be an issue if all the conservatives that control the government let go of their ignorance and allowed the law to pass, as it is what most of Australia want...
They have done polls. The ones who don't agree have little or very stupid reasons to disagree...They are probably just being ignorant or just want there religious beliefs to impact on Australia and our choices...
@jqlzp You are really sucked in, that's the media pal, and the media is fully stacked! The truth is so far from it, and that is how power freaks push their agendas. This is just a Homo agenda, and the SHIT STINKS! The Media is your bible, not mine...
@CrystalSeaTV I don't follow a bible of any sort...Obviously you've been sucked into your religion a bit too much and have become deluded and brainwashed. You can't even think reasonably, because you must do whatever the bible says.I hardly even fall for the media,but I've seen and done polls before, and I know they are normally accurate,especially if more then one poll is similar.I don't even trust the media too much, but from my community I know many people support gay marriage. It makes sense
@jqlzp WHAT>>>>>>>EVER! You don't know me, but GOD does. You are a fool for believing in a sector of the public (Gay Men), that causes 85% of AIDS in this country. FIX THAT ONE FIRST before you stuff up Marriage :) LOOK we are not going to agree so keep eating shit......
@CrystalSeaTV I know that you're a religious bigot lol...There's 22 million people in Australia and only 23 000 have Aids or HIV. Not all of those are gay guys either...It can already be avoided...Marriage would help too obviously...I'm not the one filling my mind with a book full of nonsense am I...
@jqlzp Awe yeah, the good old "BIGOT" one raises it's ugly head. Resort to shit like the rest of 'em pal. If that's all you reduce yourself to then enjoy your down-fall.
@CrystalSeaTV Of course I am not, there may even be no such thing as him, but if he is real, I'm sure he would not appreciate you being so against his own creations...Zombie? That has nothing to do with being gay...And adding poofter to the name would be a contradiction lol...It doesn't make sense...
Fuck the Greens. The further this deluded poof stays away from our biggest export, farming and small business the better for the country. It will probably be for a while though until he can get his little manicured hands on those though, because the first cab of the rank will obviously be the "omnimportant" issue of gay marriage that every family across Australia talks about at the dinner table every night a la Greens functions.
If this so called "Green" Party is for the current Cap and Trade solution to Global Warming, they are nothing more than shills for the very Oil and other Corporations they claim to despise. Input into youtube "The Story of Cap and Trade" and learn the truth about how Greens and Global warming is being played to pass a Cap and Trade which will benefit the very same polluters and scammers the environmentalists, global warmers etc supposedly despise
Dr Megan Clark Chief Executive of CSIRO former director of Rothschild investment bank in Australia check her on line resume if you don’t believe me
The new chairman of CSIRO, Simon McKeon was executive chairman of Melbourne operations at one of the world's most hardcore investment banks, Macquarie Bank
= CSIRO’S findings pay a “carbon tax”
Ross Garnaut one of the Australia’s greatest bankers advises government to pay carbon tax
"A well-crafted diversion of our attention from focusing upon the crimes of Zionism and the Israeli state, and an interesting view of what John Howard looked and sounded like as a young man. Nice!" - that was my reflection upon seeing this.
Brown......you will see the viciousness of the Australian public soon....you're the one that is to blame for all the division, discord and chaos in the Liberal/National and Labour Parties.
You are a charming but deviate activist hiding behind a suit!
I promise you, there will be so much hatred towards you, you will regret even being a politician!
At least the Greens will have a permanent leash on that rabid dog Abbott (if he gets in). We still get a Labor government without a Labor government in power. Thanks Australia for having a bet each way.
What worries me is the Greens have given rise to a bloody HUNG PARLIAMENT. We DON'T WANT THAT. The Greens have MANY unrealistic, quite-wacky ideas in PRACTICE. Eg - the grandiose ideas that this guy spruiks are just that - grand on-paper ideas. They'll NEVER see the light of day .. in pragmatic practice. What we REALLY need is a new REGIONAL Political Party .. for, in the next decade, we're going to see an IMMENSE aging / retiring Baby-Boomer exodus to the holiday coasts, outa the big cities.
Hi all, there has been some comments on this page about casting votes for the Greens. To cast a formal vote for the Greens in the House of Representatives, you MUST number every box on the ballot paper, starting with a 1 next to the Green candidate.
@AustralianGreens I cant believe people can be so stupid as to vote Green,and for the Greens to give their votes to labor is undemocratic.Its disgusting.The Greens are not a political party,just a bunch of protesters who want to live off the taxpayers.
@TheTopBloke. If you think you've got a case then go for it - take it to the courts - but at the end of the day those who'l be counting the votes will follow AEC stipulations, which are unequivocal on the matter.
@TheTopBloke. That's an issue with preferential voting and I do think there are strong grounds for the introduction of truly proportional voting as practiced in many other nations. I'd support you in any moves to see the preferential system abolished. But whether it's a waste to you has no bearing on what constitutes a formal vote.
@teraris The preferential system is undemocratic,it stinks as the true winners dont get passed the post because of this bunch,I cant believe anyone could fall for the garbage put out by the greens.
@TheTopBloke. I didn't say you're disgusting. I said what you're advocating is. You cold be a very nice bloke and you could be an over-zealous party hack for the Libs, Labor, Family First or whatever. It's precisely the problem with internet anonymity isn't it?
To make a formal vote on a House of Representatives ballot paper, a voter must number every box with a series of consecutive numbers according to their preference. A voter must:
Write the number 1 in the box beside the candidate who is their first choice
Write the number 2 in the box beside the candidate who is their second choice,
Write the number 3 in the box beside the candidate who is their third choice,
@TheTopBloke. He's breaking the law but whether he should be prosecuted is incidental. And if he were prosecuted would also have no bearing on your argument. It adds no credence to it either way. I could advocate that voters draw penises on their voting slips. It would be illegal I could be prosecuted but it would be a very different thing for me to argue that penis drawn in a box constitutes a valid vote or drawing differently sized penises in each square would constitutes valid preference.
From the AEC website - why make it hard to have your vote counted?
An informal ballot paper is one that has been incorrectly completed or not filled in at all. Informal votes are not counted towards any candidate but are set aside.
From the AEC website - why make it hard to have your vote counted?
A House of Representatives ballot paper is informal if: * it is blank or unmarked, * ticks or crosses have been used, * it has writing on it which identifies the voter, * a number is repeated, * the voter's intention is not clear, or * it has not received the official mark of the presiding officer and is not considered authentic.
From the AEC website - why make it hard to have your vote counted:
Note: If a House of Representatives ballot paper has all squares numbered but one then it is assumed that the unmarked square constitutes the last preference and the ballot paper will be deemed formal.
@TheTopBloke. Well I commend you a reasoned discourse as well, but I would at the very least err on the side of caution and number every box on a house of reps voting slip until such time as an official announcement is made. Surely at best you're citing a grey area and to be honest I wouldn't want to risk a vote pursuing a grey area. By all means pursue this with your local member and the press beyond the election so that it's clear and unambiguous enough for next time.
@TheTopBloke. Latham advocated turning up to have your name marked off the electoral role. Whether what he advocated is illegal or whether he ought to be prosecuted is of no consequence. He could be prosecuted and it would not make one iota of difference to the strength of your case. Anyone can go into a booth and knowingly cast an informal vote well before Latham advocated it. What you're advocating misinformation that results in people UNKNOWINGLY casting an informal vote. Disgusting.
@xFENRISx If TheTopBloke is an over zealous Labor Party member then it does reflect badly on the party. He of course may be just an overzealous, highly-partisan Labor supporter. Whether it's false flyers or FUD spread over the internet some people feel they need to make every possible endeavour, legal or otherwise, to get their team across the line.
@TheTopBloke. Whether Latham is breaking the law is inconsequential to what is legally accepted as a valid vote. What Latham has advocated and whether he should be prosecuted is an irrelevence to this discussion. In doesn't follow that just because a law isn't rigorously enforced (otherwise you'd be in trouble) that there aren't clear guidelines concerning what constitutes an informal or invalid vote. You're intentionally conflated two separate issues again I would posit, to create FUD.
@teraris LOL, well what do you think a barrister is going to cite in the high court? Is he going to cite the AEC brochure, or website? Or, is he going to cite the Commonwealth Electoral Act? I'm going with the actual statute, in the act. Note also in the Monash review, that Langer never raised the issue. The court is an adversarial court, meaning, he may in fact have succeeded if he had raised it as an issue, but he did not.
@TheTopBloke "is he going to cite the Commonwealth Electoral Act?" you mean the one I quoted here in full after your citation, and which stipulated that for a vote to be formal it requires ALL boxes sequentially numbers - hence 4 boxes, numbered 1 through to 4 in order of preference. You mean the one that doesn't support your case at all?
@teraris Also please note, monash uni agrees with my interpretation of it, and apparently so does the AEC, as they intend to do nothing about Latham's comment on national tv the other night, which by your interpretation, means he violated sec379a. The monash quote "Because of this subsection it is technically possible for voters to cast a valid formal vote without giving any preference to certain candidates."
@TheTopBloke The fair-dinkum, real, actual, honest to God law you mean? That law?
As opposed to the requirements published by the body legally charged with overseeing and administering the election? Your citation of COMMONWEALTH ELECTORAL ACT 1918 - SECT 240 didn't support your case incidentally.
@teraris I believe it does. There's nothing in sec 240 that states everything must be filled out. And further on the AEC website see the link to informal votes. It does not state that every box must be filled out. In fact it states it's invalid if NO box is filled out at all.
@TheTopBloke. So are you posting this amazing revelation on other election videos form the other parties? I mean this 'fact' that you alone have stumbled upon could dramatically alter the face of elections in Australia from here on in. I hope you're bombarding the media with this incredible discovery.
Or are you only posting it here and only telling people if they vote Green they needn't number all boxes?
@TheTopBloke. Ok I googled COMMONWEALTH ELECTORAL ACT 1918 - SECT 240 and this is what I got:
Marking of votes in House of Representatives election (1) In a House of Representatives election a person shall mark his or her vote on the ballot paper by: (a) writing the number 1 in the square opposite the name of the candidate for whom the person votes as his or her first preference; AND
(b) writing the numbers 2, 3, 4 (and so on, as the case requires) in the squares opposite the names of all the remaining candidates so as to indicate the order of the person's preference for them. (2) The numbers referred to in paragraph (1)(b) are to be consecutive numbers, without the repetition of any number. "
That's it. Pray tell me how this supports your position?
For the House of Representatives voting slip you must put a number next to each candidate starting at 1 for your first choice and the numbers progressing until each square is filled. Anything else your vote will be "informal" (not counted at all).
The Senate slip permits you to vote EITHER by placing a 1 above the line OR numbering every square sequentially below the line. Anything else and your vote will be "informal" (not counted at all).
@rgml1957 I know, I know there have been a few people enter into this discussion with the exact same statement, but if you read the comments further and go to the citations I've provided which can easily be found in google, and read them carefully, you can see clearly why Latham is not being charged and I, and monash law review are correct. In fact, I'm telling you to vote. Latham is telling you not to vote at all! So if you disagree with me, fine, then I contact AEC and demand justice.
Don't listen to TheTopBloke. Number ALL the boxes on the voting slip. You can distribute your preferences however you see fit. However, regardless of whether you choose to vote 1 Greens, 1 Labor, 1 Liberal, or vote 1 on another candidate you MUST nonetheless sequentially distribute your preferences in the remainder of the boxes if you wish for your vote to be valid.
Incidentally, we're talking about the House of Representatives voting slip here. The Senate slip permits you to vote 1 above the line or fill out all numbers sequentially below the line.
@xFENRISx And further, my intention is quite the contrary to what you're assuming. I would prefer to see the Greens keep their Green votes! Not let the Labor party steal them based on a bad interpretation of the law. But hey, if you want to vote Green and 2nd pref Labor, then so be it. I'm simply putting it out there. And no one has to take my word for it. With the smallest amount of effort they can simply google every reference I've previously cited. I encourage everyone to do so.
I'm sure it would make a very interesting day in court if it was ever appealed. As it stands, without numbering every candidate according to preference, people's vote WOULD NOT COUNT. That's how the votes are counted. I'm guessing you knew that and I also suspect that it's no coincidence that you're commenting on a marginal labor vs greens seat to do it. Labor would have everything to gain from Green voters not having their votes count.
@xFENRISx LOL. You're arguing against the monash uni law review. What would be really interesting would be to see the AEC go after Latham. Based on your interpretation of the law review, they should. And I honestly don't know if Latham is right, he seems to me to be kinda on the fence. But if the AEC doesn't go after him, then they are interpreting sec240 the same as myself and monash, and that is, if you have no preference, then you simply don't put it, and that is valid.
This is not a difference of opinion. If people do as you suggest, their vote will be informal and will not count. The fact that the very article you referenced states not to do what you're doing is concerning. For people's vote to count, they must number each candidate.
No, they haven't. The AEC is independent and is there to help people give a vote that counts. The article you referenced states that it is an offense to encourage voting in the manner that that you are suggesting (and in contravention to section 240 of the electoral act).
Given that this is a key seat, that you would encourage people to lodge a vote that would not count is extremely dishonest. People MUST NUMBER ALL CANDIDATES FOR THEIR VOTE TO COUNT.
It may cost people their vote. The AEC advises that for your vote to count, you need to number ALL the candidates. You don't want to cost people their vote do you?
No no no don't do this. If you vote 1 and leave the rest, your vote will not count. The Australian Electoral commission has a page on this. aec.gov.au If you're unsure, you can ask a facilitator in the voting station whether you've filled in your vote correctly.
To the dipshit who signs him/herself NoCarbonTax: rain (hydro) falls from the sky, so since when was hydro-electric energy non-renewable? Get an education before you post risible nonsense. Most of NZ's energy comes from renewable sources.
If you vote Green be sure NOT to add a preference. It is perfectly legal, and will not make your vote informal or invalid. Mark 1 for Greens, and leave the remaining boxes empty. Want proof? Google Commonwealth Electoral Act 1918 Sect 240. Also Google Langer v Commonwealth, see Monash University Law Review.
Melbourne will become history. No coal, no gas, no hydro, no nuclear, no fuel, just a trickle of intermittent and unreliable wind and solar. How would you power a fast speed train when the wind stops. OK so it's fast, but would only operate on sunny days, right? What happens to the speed when you get to a cloudy spot or if night falls? How can you afford to build a fast speed train when you've trashed our fossil fuel based economy.
@scifenefics If you vote Green be sure NOT to add a preference. It is perfectly legal, and will not make your vote informal or invalid. Mark 1 for Greens, and leave the remaining boxes empty. Want proof? Google Commonwealth Electoral Act 1918 Sect 240. Also Google Langer v Commonwealth, see Monash University Law Review.
@FCScorpio79 If you vote Green be sure NOT to add a preference. It is perfectly legal, and will not make your vote informal or invalid. Mark 1 for Greens, and leave the remaining boxes empty. Want proof? Google Commonwealth Electoral Act 1918 Sect 240. Also Google Langer v Commonwealth, see Monash University Law Review.
So ........Lets try to keep Melbourne a leading liveable city.....Make sure you go to Melbourne and visit the CH2 building. CH2 shows us the way ahead for sustainable design. Its time for Melbourne to evolve Lets start building sustainable green precincts in the CH2 style..........now !
There is a reason no one votes Greens. They are the most dangerous thing TO THIS COUNTRY. Their dangerous policies would ruin Australia if they ever saw the light of day.
That's a very clever piece of advertising. Even though I can't stand the Greens, I have to admit that this style of political advertising is far better than the traditional type with the aggressive or condescending voice over demeaning political opponents with red letters on a black background.
@ashtool If you vote Green be sure NOT to add a preference. It is perfectly legal, and will not make your vote informal or invalid. Mark 1 for Greens, and leave the remaining boxes empty. Want proof? Google Commonwealth Electoral Act 1918 Sect 240. Also Google Langer v Commonwealth, see Monash University Law Review.
@a1ister If you vote Green be sure NOT to add a preference. It is perfectly legal, and will not make your vote informal or invalid. Mark 1 for Greens, and leave the remaining boxes empty. Want proof? Google Commonwealth Electoral Act 1918 Sect 240. Also Google Langer v Commonwealth, see Monash University Law Review.
vote GREEN all the way, local, state and federal! Anyone who would worry about the economy should be aware that we cannot HAVE a functioning economy without the earth's priceless natural capital. Our votes must reflect this irrefutable fact!
...and a leftwing middle class fag trendy fuck who is absolutely convinced that he is superior to everyone else. And also completely incurious to any other alternative view.
TheCrappyaccount 2 months ago
Australia cant make a difference to climate change
Chiina builds an airport every 45 days bigger than Tullamarine
Adam Bandt is an educated man and an idealist but he cannot be taken seriously if he thinks Australia going down this track will do anything but cost jobs for some Australians
Tell us Adam what will Australia achieve while India the US and China increase pollution at astrominical speeds
When people lose their jobs over this you will be to blame
lmadigan1971 6 months ago
climate change is doctored statistics they are not going to do any thing besides tax you for carbon and both sides slightly diffrent still have the new world order as there number one agenda
danielrfkn 7 months ago
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tune into alex jones and infowars. com and we are change for real news
danielrfkn 7 months ago
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Nuclear Power is the second safest energy source in the world. Why are the Greens supporting Wind Power, such a vile energy source slaughtering birds and hurting our poor farmers health, when Nuclear Power is so much safer and better?
MarsMoonEuropa 9 months ago
the greens are just part ofthe labor party and anyone who thinks different is kidding themselves, all you rich trendy eastern suburbs people and arty farty ones living in inner cities keep voting green and all mum and dads money house and extra goes to the gov. not you think about, you just ahave to live in moderation and not have people ramming lies at us all the time
MrToebee 1 year ago
@MrToebee
By saying the greens are the same as labor is like saying the nationals are the same as the liberals.. in fact the nats are probably more alike to the libs then the greens are to the ALP.. All the money they raise through tax gets put back into the community, there strong climate change policy is preserving the world for the future.. to be honest id willingly live in a Marxist sociology, as long as it wasn't corrupt.. watch?v=OQWz3VxxMlc&feature=relmfu there's proof there different..
LewhanLove 8 months ago
G'day why do you support and attend rallies that call for the genocide of Jews?
Yoni1948 1 year ago
History is being made this election Adam. The Greens whose policies are NOT GREEN are having the rug pulled right out from under their feet by trying to play both sides of the political table.
You lost the unlosable election, trying to play the majors off against each other thinking you were the only choice for them and they proved you wroing selecting each other over you and removing the likelyhood of 4 inner city lower seats
FOOL go back to Pro-Bono and GOD help the person you represent
SXSMachine 1 year ago
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History is being made this election Adam. The Greens whose policies are NOT GREEN are having the rug pulled right out from under their feet by trying to play both sides of the political table.
You lost the unlosable election, trying to play the majors off against each other thinking you were the only choice for them and they proved you wroing selecting each other over you and removing the likelyhood of 4 inner city lower seats
FOOLS go back to Pro-Bono and GOD help the person you represent
SXSMachine 1 year ago
History is being made this election Adam. The Greens whose policies are NOT GREEN are having the rug pulled right out from under their feet by trying to play both sides of the political table.
You lost the unlosable election, trying to play the majors off against each other thinking you were the only choice for them and they proved you wroing selecting each other over you and removing the likelyhood of 4 inner city lower seats.
FOOLS go back to Pro-Bono and GOD help the person you represent
SXSMachine 1 year ago
@SXSMachine Watch the Greens walk their slippery slope......
CrystalSeaTV 1 year ago
Adam Bandt, if you ever read this, you should be so proud of your success so far. As clichéd as it sounds, you are my hero!
lovekarma999 1 year ago
The greens gained seats in melbourne, send the boat people to melb.
666plb 1 year ago
I am ashamed to now live in Melbourne because of this dick!
chikkychak 1 year ago
@chikkychak all he cares about is where his dick is... of all the things he could push for in Parliament in his first three months, it's now GAY MARRIAGE... and that's all it ever was!
CrystalSeaTV 1 year ago
@CrystalSeaTV That's not true... There were other important issues the greens talked about. They are probably mostly only known for the gay marriage because that's what the propaganda find interesting...They made an agreenment with labour on some of their beliefs and that did not include gay marriage. It wouldn't even be an issue if all the conservatives that control the government let go of their ignorance and allowed the law to pass, as it is what most of Australia want...
jqlzp 1 year ago
@jqlzp Most Australians want? BULLSHIT!!
CrystalSeaTV 1 year ago
@CrystalSeaTV
They have done polls. The ones who don't agree have little or very stupid reasons to disagree...They are probably just being ignorant or just want there religious beliefs to impact on Australia and our choices...
jqlzp 1 year ago
@jqlzp You are really sucked in, that's the media pal, and the media is fully stacked! The truth is so far from it, and that is how power freaks push their agendas. This is just a Homo agenda, and the SHIT STINKS! The Media is your bible, not mine...
CrystalSeaTV 1 year ago
@CrystalSeaTV I don't follow a bible of any sort...Obviously you've been sucked into your religion a bit too much and have become deluded and brainwashed. You can't even think reasonably, because you must do whatever the bible says.I hardly even fall for the media,but I've seen and done polls before, and I know they are normally accurate,especially if more then one poll is similar.I don't even trust the media too much, but from my community I know many people support gay marriage. It makes sense
jqlzp 1 year ago
@jqlzp WHAT>>>>>>>EVER! You don't know me, but GOD does. You are a fool for believing in a sector of the public (Gay Men), that causes 85% of AIDS in this country. FIX THAT ONE FIRST before you stuff up Marriage :) LOOK we are not going to agree so keep eating shit......
CrystalSeaTV 1 year ago
@CrystalSeaTV I know that you're a religious bigot lol...There's 22 million people in Australia and only 23 000 have Aids or HIV. Not all of those are gay guys either...It can already be avoided...Marriage would help too obviously...I'm not the one filling my mind with a book full of nonsense am I...
jqlzp 1 year ago 2
@jqlzp Awe yeah, the good old "BIGOT" one raises it's ugly head. Resort to shit like the rest of 'em pal. If that's all you reduce yourself to then enjoy your down-fall.
CrystalSeaTV 1 year ago
@CrystalSeaTV But you are a BIGOT! what else should you be called? I'm not in any downfall. lol
jqlzp 1 year ago 3
@jqlzp You are not GOD, but just as your tube name says, you are Just a Queer Lesbian Zombie Poofter, now that's my LOL!
CrystalSeaTV 1 year ago
@CrystalSeaTV Of course I am not, there may even be no such thing as him, but if he is real, I'm sure he would not appreciate you being so against his own creations...Zombie? That has nothing to do with being gay...And adding poofter to the name would be a contradiction lol...It doesn't make sense...
jqlzp 1 year ago 2
the maggots are coming in to feed, my family is under attack and we will rise up against this.
Hossco76 1 year ago
Fuck the Greens. The further this deluded poof stays away from our biggest export, farming and small business the better for the country. It will probably be for a while though until he can get his little manicured hands on those though, because the first cab of the rank will obviously be the "omnimportant" issue of gay marriage that every family across Australia talks about at the dinner table every night a la Greens functions.
Tockers84 1 year ago
If this so called "Green" Party is for the current Cap and Trade solution to Global Warming, they are nothing more than shills for the very Oil and other Corporations they claim to despise. Input into youtube "The Story of Cap and Trade" and learn the truth about how Greens and Global warming is being played to pass a Cap and Trade which will benefit the very same polluters and scammers the environmentalists, global warmers etc supposedly despise
Dayversion 1 year ago
Congratulations, Australian Greens!
From a fellow American Green.
deskset24 1 year ago
Make Melbourne History
Nahasapasa 1 year ago
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The science has been taken over by bankers
Dr Megan Clark Chief Executive of CSIRO former director of Rothschild investment bank in Australia check her on line resume if you don’t believe me
The new chairman of CSIRO, Simon McKeon was executive chairman of Melbourne operations at one of the world's most hardcore investment banks, Macquarie Bank
= CSIRO’S findings pay a “carbon tax”
Ross Garnaut one of the Australia’s greatest bankers advises government to pay carbon tax
wakeup2thelies 1 year ago
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I think it is great that the parliament has ended up like this
I reckon it will be good for australia
real thinkers here, not a bunch of idiots parroting party spin
Bambi Bandt shouldn't be in the mix. He's just an idiot parroting green spin....not one ounce of quality, depth or intelligence.
Clearly the Greens don't believe in something bigger than themselves-
bunny72805 1 year ago
damm right were special
teetle0 1 year ago
@teetle0 melbourne so special, the residents are swarming into Queensland.
666plb 1 year ago 2
@666plb Yeah, Melbourne's Freakin' LOST IT!
IMAGEisGOD 1 year ago
@666plb as the Locusts head for Victoria......
CrystalSeaTV 1 year ago
damm right were speacial
teetle0 1 year ago
I see a national re-vote coming up!
MRMILO57 1 year ago
"A well-crafted diversion of our attention from focusing upon the crimes of Zionism and the Israeli state, and an interesting view of what John Howard looked and sounded like as a young man. Nice!" - that was my reflection upon seeing this.
daveyork0 1 year ago
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Brown......you will see the viciousness of the Australian public soon....you're the one that is to blame for all the division, discord and chaos in the Liberal/National and Labour Parties.
You are a charming but deviate activist hiding behind a suit!
I promise you, there will be so much hatred towards you, you will regret even being a politician!
MRMILO57 1 year ago
At least the Greens will have a permanent leash on that rabid dog Abbott (if he gets in). We still get a Labor government without a Labor government in power. Thanks Australia for having a bet each way.
zpunter 1 year ago
@Friedyellow Agreed..he looks gay in this clip and Melbourne is a known gay haunt
freespeechisataste 1 year ago
the greens aren't green... they're BROWN
Soundgarden8497 1 year ago
What worries me is the Greens have given rise to a bloody HUNG PARLIAMENT. We DON'T WANT THAT. The Greens have MANY unrealistic, quite-wacky ideas in PRACTICE. Eg - the grandiose ideas that this guy spruiks are just that - grand on-paper ideas. They'll NEVER see the light of day .. in pragmatic practice. What we REALLY need is a new REGIONAL Political Party .. for, in the next decade, we're going to see an IMMENSE aging / retiring Baby-Boomer exodus to the holiday coasts, outa the big cities.
colindominy 1 year ago
Congratulations Adam!!!!
franny2tm 1 year ago 2
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Yes, well done Adam!
xFENRISx 1 year ago
Hi all, there has been some comments on this page about casting votes for the Greens. To cast a formal vote for the Greens in the House of Representatives, you MUST number every box on the ballot paper, starting with a 1 next to the Green candidate.
AustralianGreens 1 year ago
@AustralianGreens. Best of luck to Adam Bandt. If I were based in the seat of Melbourne he'd certainly have my vote.
teraris 1 year ago
@AustralianGreens I cant believe people can be so stupid as to vote Green,and for the Greens to give their votes to labor is undemocratic.Its disgusting.The Greens are not a political party,just a bunch of protesters who want to live off the taxpayers.
marthaBot 1 year ago
@AustralianGreens I just voted 1 for Greens with both bits of paper
OSGUIShow 1 year ago
@AustralianGreens City folk know squat about the land and never will IMO.
Bottom line, don't lie and try to scare me, to get me to do or be something, or live in a certain way.
bunny72805 1 year ago
@TheTopBloke. If you think you've got a case then go for it - take it to the courts - but at the end of the day those who'l be counting the votes will follow AEC stipulations, which are unequivocal on the matter.
teraris 1 year ago
@TheTopBloke. That's an issue with preferential voting and I do think there are strong grounds for the introduction of truly proportional voting as practiced in many other nations. I'd support you in any moves to see the preferential system abolished. But whether it's a waste to you has no bearing on what constitutes a formal vote.
teraris 1 year ago
@teraris The preferential system is undemocratic,it stinks as the true winners dont get passed the post because of this bunch,I cant believe anyone could fall for the garbage put out by the greens.
marthaBot 1 year ago
@TheTopBloke. I didn't say you're disgusting. I said what you're advocating is. You cold be a very nice bloke and you could be an over-zealous party hack for the Libs, Labor, Family First or whatever. It's precisely the problem with internet anonymity isn't it?
teraris 1 year ago
From the AEC - don't waste your vote:
To make a formal vote on a House of Representatives ballot paper, a voter must number every box with a series of consecutive numbers according to their preference. A voter must:
Write the number 1 in the box beside the candidate who is their first choice
Write the number 2 in the box beside the candidate who is their second choice,
Write the number 3 in the box beside the candidate who is their third choice,
and so on until they have numbered every box.
rgml1957 1 year ago 2
@TheTopBloke. He's breaking the law but whether he should be prosecuted is incidental. And if he were prosecuted would also have no bearing on your argument. It adds no credence to it either way. I could advocate that voters draw penises on their voting slips. It would be illegal I could be prosecuted but it would be a very different thing for me to argue that penis drawn in a box constitutes a valid vote or drawing differently sized penises in each square would constitutes valid preference.
teraris 1 year ago
From the AEC website - why make it hard to have your vote counted?
An informal ballot paper is one that has been incorrectly completed or not filled in at all. Informal votes are not counted towards any candidate but are set aside.
rgml1957 1 year ago
From the AEC website - why make it hard to have your vote counted?
A House of Representatives ballot paper is informal if: * it is blank or unmarked, * ticks or crosses have been used, * it has writing on it which identifies the voter, * a number is repeated, * the voter's intention is not clear, or * it has not received the official mark of the presiding officer and is not considered authentic.
rgml1957 1 year ago
From the AEC website - why make it hard to have your vote counted:
Note: If a House of Representatives ballot paper has all squares numbered but one then it is assumed that the unmarked square constitutes the last preference and the ballot paper will be deemed formal.
rgml1957 1 year ago
@TheTopBloke. Well I commend you a reasoned discourse as well, but I would at the very least err on the side of caution and number every box on a house of reps voting slip until such time as an official announcement is made. Surely at best you're citing a grey area and to be honest I wouldn't want to risk a vote pursuing a grey area. By all means pursue this with your local member and the press beyond the election so that it's clear and unambiguous enough for next time.
teraris 1 year ago
@TheTopBloke. Latham advocated turning up to have your name marked off the electoral role. Whether what he advocated is illegal or whether he ought to be prosecuted is of no consequence. He could be prosecuted and it would not make one iota of difference to the strength of your case. Anyone can go into a booth and knowingly cast an informal vote well before Latham advocated it. What you're advocating misinformation that results in people UNKNOWINGLY casting an informal vote. Disgusting.
teraris 1 year ago
@teraris
I've seen the liberals doing this sort of thing, but rarely will I see labor doing it. It reflects badly on them everywhere.
xFENRISx 1 year ago
@xFENRISx If TheTopBloke is an over zealous Labor Party member then it does reflect badly on the party. He of course may be just an overzealous, highly-partisan Labor supporter. Whether it's false flyers or FUD spread over the internet some people feel they need to make every possible endeavour, legal or otherwise, to get their team across the line.
teraris 1 year ago
@TheTopBloke You're advocating something worse.
teraris 1 year ago
@TheTopBloke. Whether Latham is breaking the law is inconsequential to what is legally accepted as a valid vote. What Latham has advocated and whether he should be prosecuted is an irrelevence to this discussion. In doesn't follow that just because a law isn't rigorously enforced (otherwise you'd be in trouble) that there aren't clear guidelines concerning what constitutes an informal or invalid vote. You're intentionally conflated two separate issues again I would posit, to create FUD.
teraris 1 year ago
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@teraris LOL, well what do you think a barrister is going to cite in the high court? Is he going to cite the AEC brochure, or website? Or, is he going to cite the Commonwealth Electoral Act? I'm going with the actual statute, in the act. Note also in the Monash review, that Langer never raised the issue. The court is an adversarial court, meaning, he may in fact have succeeded if he had raised it as an issue, but he did not.
TheTopBloke 1 year ago
@TheTopBloke "is he going to cite the Commonwealth Electoral Act?" you mean the one I quoted here in full after your citation, and which stipulated that for a vote to be formal it requires ALL boxes sequentially numbers - hence 4 boxes, numbered 1 through to 4 in order of preference. You mean the one that doesn't support your case at all?
teraris 1 year ago 2
@teraris Also please note, monash uni agrees with my interpretation of it, and apparently so does the AEC, as they intend to do nothing about Latham's comment on national tv the other night, which by your interpretation, means he violated sec379a. The monash quote "Because of this subsection it is technically possible for voters to cast a valid formal vote without giving any preference to certain candidates."
TheTopBloke 1 year ago
@TheTopBloke The fair-dinkum, real, actual, honest to God law you mean? That law?
As opposed to the requirements published by the body legally charged with overseeing and administering the election? Your citation of COMMONWEALTH ELECTORAL ACT 1918 - SECT 240 didn't support your case incidentally.
teraris 1 year ago
@teraris I believe it does. There's nothing in sec 240 that states everything must be filled out. And further on the AEC website see the link to informal votes. It does not state that every box must be filled out. In fact it states it's invalid if NO box is filled out at all.
TheTopBloke 1 year ago
@TheTopBloke. So are you posting this amazing revelation on other election videos form the other parties? I mean this 'fact' that you alone have stumbled upon could dramatically alter the face of elections in Australia from here on in. I hope you're bombarding the media with this incredible discovery.
Or are you only posting it here and only telling people if they vote Green they needn't number all boxes?
teraris 1 year ago
@TheTopBloke. Ok I googled COMMONWEALTH ELECTORAL ACT 1918 - SECT 240 and this is what I got:
Marking of votes in House of Representatives election (1) In a House of Representatives election a person shall mark his or her vote on the ballot paper by: (a) writing the number 1 in the square opposite the name of the candidate for whom the person votes as his or her first preference; AND
teraris 1 year ago
(b) writing the numbers 2, 3, 4 (and so on, as the case requires) in the squares opposite the names of all the remaining candidates so as to indicate the order of the person's preference for them. (2) The numbers referred to in paragraph (1)(b) are to be consecutive numbers, without the repetition of any number. "
That's it. Pray tell me how this supports your position?
teraris 1 year ago
For the House of Representatives voting slip you must put a number next to each candidate starting at 1 for your first choice and the numbers progressing until each square is filled. Anything else your vote will be "informal" (not counted at all).
The Senate slip permits you to vote EITHER by placing a 1 above the line OR numbering every square sequentially below the line. Anything else and your vote will be "informal" (not counted at all).
Don't be fooled by misleading comments here!
rgml1957 1 year ago
@rgml1957 I know, I know there have been a few people enter into this discussion with the exact same statement, but if you read the comments further and go to the citations I've provided which can easily be found in google, and read them carefully, you can see clearly why Latham is not being charged and I, and monash law review are correct. In fact, I'm telling you to vote. Latham is telling you not to vote at all! So if you disagree with me, fine, then I contact AEC and demand justice.
TheTopBloke 1 year ago
Don't listen to TheTopBloke. Number ALL the boxes on the voting slip. You can distribute your preferences however you see fit. However, regardless of whether you choose to vote 1 Greens, 1 Labor, 1 Liberal, or vote 1 on another candidate you MUST nonetheless sequentially distribute your preferences in the remainder of the boxes if you wish for your vote to be valid.
TheTopBloke is merely disseminating FUD.
teraris 1 year ago 2
Incidentally, we're talking about the House of Representatives voting slip here. The Senate slip permits you to vote 1 above the line or fill out all numbers sequentially below the line.
teraris 1 year ago 2
Straight from the source...
"aec .gov .au/ Voting /How_to_vote/Voting_HOR .htm"
TheTopBloke is attempting to confuse and obfuscate and I only surmise that he's motivated by the hope of affecting the outcome.
teraris 1 year ago 2
@xFENRISx And further, my intention is quite the contrary to what you're assuming. I would prefer to see the Greens keep their Green votes! Not let the Labor party steal them based on a bad interpretation of the law. But hey, if you want to vote Green and 2nd pref Labor, then so be it. I'm simply putting it out there. And no one has to take my word for it. With the smallest amount of effort they can simply google every reference I've previously cited. I encourage everyone to do so.
TheTopBloke 1 year ago
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xFENRISx 1 year ago
@TheTopBloke
I'm sure it would make a very interesting day in court if it was ever appealed. As it stands, without numbering every candidate according to preference, people's vote WOULD NOT COUNT. That's how the votes are counted. I'm guessing you knew that and I also suspect that it's no coincidence that you're commenting on a marginal labor vs greens seat to do it. Labor would have everything to gain from Green voters not having their votes count.
xFENRISx 1 year ago
@xFENRISx LOL. You're arguing against the monash uni law review. What would be really interesting would be to see the AEC go after Latham. Based on your interpretation of the law review, they should. And I honestly don't know if Latham is right, he seems to me to be kinda on the fence. But if the AEC doesn't go after him, then they are interpreting sec240 the same as myself and monash, and that is, if you have no preference, then you simply don't put it, and that is valid.
TheTopBloke 1 year ago
@TheTopBloke
This is not a difference of opinion. If people do as you suggest, their vote will be informal and will not count. The fact that the very article you referenced states not to do what you're doing is concerning. For people's vote to count, they must number each candidate.
xFENRISx 1 year ago
@TheTopBloke
No, they haven't. The AEC is independent and is there to help people give a vote that counts. The article you referenced states that it is an offense to encourage voting in the manner that that you are suggesting (and in contravention to section 240 of the electoral act).
Given that this is a key seat, that you would encourage people to lodge a vote that would not count is extremely dishonest. People MUST NUMBER ALL CANDIDATES FOR THEIR VOTE TO COUNT.
xFENRISx 1 year ago
@TheTopBloke
It may cost people their vote. The AEC advises that for your vote to count, you need to number ALL the candidates. You don't want to cost people their vote do you?
xFENRISx 1 year ago
@TheTopBloke
No no no don't do this. If you vote 1 and leave the rest, your vote will not count. The Australian Electoral commission has a page on this. aec.gov.au If you're unsure, you can ask a facilitator in the voting station whether you've filled in your vote correctly.
xFENRISx 1 year ago
To the dipshit who signs him/herself NoCarbonTax: rain (hydro) falls from the sky, so since when was hydro-electric energy non-renewable? Get an education before you post risible nonsense. Most of NZ's energy comes from renewable sources.
Gus Burston.
bornatheist 1 year ago
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If you vote Green be sure NOT to add a preference. It is perfectly legal, and will not make your vote informal or invalid. Mark 1 for Greens, and leave the remaining boxes empty. Want proof? Google Commonwealth Electoral Act 1918 Sect 240. Also Google Langer v Commonwealth, see Monash University Law Review.
TheTopBloke 1 year ago
Melbourne will become history. No coal, no gas, no hydro, no nuclear, no fuel, just a trickle of intermittent and unreliable wind and solar. How would you power a fast speed train when the wind stops. OK so it's fast, but would only operate on sunny days, right? What happens to the speed when you get to a cloudy spot or if night falls? How can you afford to build a fast speed train when you've trashed our fossil fuel based economy.
NoCarbonTax 1 year ago
YAY go greens down with the old and ignorant!
scifenefics 1 year ago 2
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@scifenefics If you vote Green be sure NOT to add a preference. It is perfectly legal, and will not make your vote informal or invalid. Mark 1 for Greens, and leave the remaining boxes empty. Want proof? Google Commonwealth Electoral Act 1918 Sect 240. Also Google Langer v Commonwealth, see Monash University Law Review.
TheTopBloke 1 year ago
the carbon tax is no good, globalization centralized banking is not a good deal......
perein03 1 year ago
I have always wanted to see an end to fossil fuel burning energy plants and ineffective coal industries having a bad influence to the enviroment.
If all cars were to develop into a more electric based transportation infrastructure there would be massive savings on continental scale.
Dimitri0809 1 year ago
Good luck Adam. I'll be hoping you win.
FCScorpio79 1 year ago 2
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@FCScorpio79 If you vote Green be sure NOT to add a preference. It is perfectly legal, and will not make your vote informal or invalid. Mark 1 for Greens, and leave the remaining boxes empty. Want proof? Google Commonwealth Electoral Act 1918 Sect 240. Also Google Langer v Commonwealth, see Monash University Law Review.
TheTopBloke 1 year ago
Your Greens vote isn't waisted, it's a double vote! Understand preferential voting - youtube [dot] com/watch?v=vHozIdBhfDE
alexanderjebradley 1 year ago
People of Melbourne, please vote Green :)
JmanofAus 1 year ago 4
Love how much of this video was filmed around the lefty, latte-sipping RMIT quarter of the CBD!
chikkychak 1 year ago
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So ........Lets try to keep Melbourne a leading liveable city.....Make sure you go to Melbourne and visit the CH2 building. CH2 shows us the way ahead for sustainable design. Its time for Melbourne to evolve Lets start building sustainable green precincts in the CH2 style..........now !
see BLEEP.ORG.AU
BLEEPNOW 1 year ago
@discrate1311 Why don't you make a video and show us why.
ruairionline 1 year ago
There is a reason no one votes Greens. They are the most dangerous thing TO THIS COUNTRY. Their dangerous policies would ruin Australia if they ever saw the light of day.
discrate1311 1 year ago
@discrate1311 Actually the Greens share government in the ACT and Tasmania. Guess that means you're full of shit.
dankru 1 year ago
A little bit happy clappy...still good though
murphysinfinland 1 year ago
Good on you! Have tweeted this to everyone. :)
PaulHassing 1 year ago
Im all Green but i see Red when know one talks about desalination
3aw77 1 year ago
That's a very clever piece of advertising. Even though I can't stand the Greens, I have to admit that this style of political advertising is far better than the traditional type with the aggressive or condescending voice over demeaning political opponents with red letters on a black background.
teajay74 1 year ago 3
Bah! i live in geelong.. if only I was 100 K's up the road so I could effect this..
I'll still be voting greens though.
DragonRomer 1 year ago
That is the best Greens video presentation I have yet seen. Fantastic work Adam and team Green!
ccranfield 1 year ago 4
Hi adam!
thesmellofnapalm22 1 year ago
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AdamBandt 1 year ago
Thanks for the comments! Come and visit my website at greens[dot]org[dot]au/melbourne to get the inside scoop on the campaign.
AdamBandt 1 year ago
I'm voting Green in Melbourne. Let's make history *highfives a1ister*
BravoCharlieComAU 1 year ago 2
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NickOver9000 1 year ago
good luck
DxsPro 1 year ago
good luck mate. you seem liek a good guy!
ashtool 1 year ago 12
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@ashtool If you vote Green be sure NOT to add a preference. It is perfectly legal, and will not make your vote informal or invalid. Mark 1 for Greens, and leave the remaining boxes empty. Want proof? Google Commonwealth Electoral Act 1918 Sect 240. Also Google Langer v Commonwealth, see Monash University Law Review.
TheTopBloke 1 year ago
I'm voting Green in Melbourne. Let's make history.
a1ister 1 year ago 19
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@a1ister If you vote Green be sure NOT to add a preference. It is perfectly legal, and will not make your vote informal or invalid. Mark 1 for Greens, and leave the remaining boxes empty. Want proof? Google Commonwealth Electoral Act 1918 Sect 240. Also Google Langer v Commonwealth, see Monash University Law Review.
TheTopBloke 1 year ago
vote GREEN all the way, local, state and federal! Anyone who would worry about the economy should be aware that we cannot HAVE a functioning economy without the earth's priceless natural capital. Our votes must reflect this irrefutable fact!
fluke28889 1 year ago 3