@FlicTuckFull I wouldn't say more powerful and cleaner. Gabby's definately more flexible, but she doesn't hit her handstands and finish pirouettes as well. And Johnson's had an Amanar and Silivas by the time she turned senior. A Silivas in 2006, her second to last year junior, I should add.
@ShawnVikaKomova2012 Her DTY was good. Definitely better than at 2010 nationals. Im sure the form, block, etc. will get better as she she keeps training. and as for her amanar. i haven't seen it. but someone said she had one. and i think she does...
@KMoney3187 It should get better. If she stays with Chow (which she will), her form could be in top shape. I bet she does. She definately still has time to keep twisting.
@KMoney3187 I hope she goes to at least Tokyo. I saw that you saw Ohashi's podium training on floor at Visas. I hope she wins. She added the front full on her layout!
@ShawnVikaKomova2012 me too :) and Ohashi has got some competition this year with Skinner and Ross upgrading like crazy! and i always thought her last pass was a 2 1/2 + front full lol
@KMoney3187 Skinner's awesome! I like Ross a lot, but not as much as Ohashi. My bad, it has been. I thought she's been doing a front layout, haha. I'm so excited for the juniors. Don't forget Kocian!
@ShawnVikaKomova2012 i like Skinner and Ohashi. Ross is good but i don't care for her much. And i ddn't know Kocian was competing lol. she's definitely one to watch out for aswell
@KMoney3187 Yes it is. Just realized I began reading Blythe Lawrence's 2010 article on Visas and not 2011. I'm such a moron, haha! But I do bet she's having trouble with her DTY if she is competing. I thought she was.
@KMoney3187 Yes they are. What do you think the podium will be (sorry, I didn't word that question right)? Wieber, Raisman, and then Bross, Douglas, Maroney, Skinner, and Memmel fight for bronze?
@ShawnVikaKomova2012 to be honest i can't give any kind of prediction. The field this year is very tight. Anyone could win really. But my dream podium would be 1.Wieber 2.Maronwy 3.Douglas so that they get their automatic spots on the Worlds team. But Bross would be right in there. And Skinner is still a junior no?
@KMoney3187 Yes, my mistake about Skinner. I'd like to see Wieber and Douglas in Tokyo. I'm not a big fan of Maroney. Her vaulting is spectacular, though. I wonder if Memmel brought some skills back to bars. Do you know if Johnson's doing AA?
@ShawnVikaKomova2012 Maroney just needs to upgrade beam and bars and fix those fugly legs. And apparently Chellsie has all the skills from '08. Idk if she ADDED some tho. And shawn's not gonna do AA. She's not gonna do floor :(
@KMoney3187 Wow, good for Memmel. I doubt she added anything. I bet she could do a DTY. Aww, I was looking forward to her floor most of all! This really limits her chances of being in Tokyo...
@FlicTuckFull Shawn doesn't get a lot of height, but she gets a ton of distance!
What were Shawn's numerous messy qualities that just never improved? Her obvious flexibility issue or her messy block on vault? Other than that, I can't think of much.
It wasn't so much her lack of flexibility (although she had that) it was her unsquare hips during her leaps. They were quite bad. Like you said her messy block. Her inability to set properly, her BHS on beam have pretty bad leg seps, her low landing standing full on beam, her low landing full twisting double back off beam.
If you're talking about her getting distance over getting height on her tumbling that's usually a bad quality.
@FlicTuckFull They were unsquare because of her lack of flexibility, I'd say. But her form on the back full on beam, in my opinion, is the best ever. What do you think is difference that Wieber and Johnson have when they set?
It is a bad quality, but still it shows her power.
No. The chinese cheat their leaps too, and they clearly have the flexibility to not. It's a form error that has nothing to do with flexibility. Although, yes, she may do it because it makes her look like she hits 180 (which she still doesn't) her unsquare hips are more indirectly related to her lack of flexibility.
Shawn lands extremely low on her standing full ...
Wieber has weird takeoffs, but she does set better than SJ.
Yea, Wieber's full is quite bad too, but I don't get when this became a Wieber V SJ thing. Just because Wieber has iffy form on things doesn't make SJ's form any better.
@FlicTuckFull Oh, haha well I wasn't trying to make it that but people say that Wieber's back full and Silivas are better but I have to disagree. Yes, Johnson's set on her tumbling is worse, but the form and landings (except on her triple) are a lot better.
@FlicTuckFull Yeah, Shawn would almost always take a small step or even stick. Wieber's is a lot higher but her feet aren't as perfect as Shawn's or Cheng's were in the Silivas.
@FlicTuckFull I wouldn't say she exactly lacks tumbling training, but it's obvious she doesn't have the same basics. I don't see what makes you think Shawn's set is much worse than Wieber's.
@FlicTuckFull Yeah, Wieber and Memmel go sideways on their twisting. I guess Shawn's set is a decent amount lower than Wieber's which is of course why her tumbling is low.
@MANMARTRE Did you watch American Cup? Gabby was brilliant. She looks like a 2012 AA contender.
Appaddict01 3 days ago 2
She risk's to be the All-Around world Champion in 2013.
MANMARTRE 3 weeks ago
WOAH . she needs to be in the Olympics next year .
Symonereid22 4 months ago 3
nice routine
but the camerawork s*cks
jmnm0 5 months ago
That was a HUGE tkatchev!!
gymmonkey41 5 months ago 4
@gymmonkey41 oh em gee I know!
cheerio92133 4 months ago
very high tkatchev yay
Sweetcleopatraa 7 months ago
She's much more powerful, cleaner, and an overall better gymnast than SJ. Love her.
FlicTuckFull 7 months ago
@FlicTuckFull I wouldn't say more powerful and cleaner. Gabby's definately more flexible, but she doesn't hit her handstands and finish pirouettes as well. And Johnson's had an Amanar and Silivas by the time she turned senior. A Silivas in 2006, her second to last year junior, I should add.
ShawnVikaKomova2012 6 months ago
@ShawnVikaKomova2012 Gaby has an amanar aswell....
KMoney3187 6 months ago
@KMoney3187 I did not know that. At Jesolo, her DTY had worse form than Johnson's (more height though), and an even worse block. Bad early rotation.
ShawnVikaKomova2012 6 months ago
@ShawnVikaKomova2012 Her DTY was good. Definitely better than at 2010 nationals. Im sure the form, block, etc. will get better as she she keeps training. and as for her amanar. i haven't seen it. but someone said she had one. and i think she does...
KMoney3187 6 months ago
@KMoney3187 It should get better. If she stays with Chow (which she will), her form could be in top shape. I bet she does. She definately still has time to keep twisting.
ShawnVikaKomova2012 6 months ago
@ShawnVikaKomova2012 most definitely. she's gonna surpise alot of people at nationals this week :D
KMoney3187 6 months ago
@KMoney3187 I think she's going to worlds. Maybe for only bars. But I'm confident in that.
ShawnVikaKomova2012 6 months ago
@ShawnVikaKomova2012 i hope she goes to worlds and olympics.
KMoney3187 6 months ago
@KMoney3187 I hope she goes to at least Tokyo. I saw that you saw Ohashi's podium training on floor at Visas. I hope she wins. She added the front full on her layout!
ShawnVikaKomova2012 6 months ago
@ShawnVikaKomova2012 me too :) and Ohashi has got some competition this year with Skinner and Ross upgrading like crazy! and i always thought her last pass was a 2 1/2 + front full lol
KMoney3187 6 months ago
@KMoney3187 Skinner's awesome! I like Ross a lot, but not as much as Ohashi. My bad, it has been. I thought she's been doing a front layout, haha. I'm so excited for the juniors. Don't forget Kocian!
ShawnVikaKomova2012 6 months ago
@ShawnVikaKomova2012 i like Skinner and Ohashi. Ross is good but i don't care for her much. And i ddn't know Kocian was competing lol. she's definitely one to watch out for aswell
KMoney3187 6 months ago
@KMoney3187 Yes, Kocian is according to the examiner. She's been having trouble on DTYs in podium training.
ShawnVikaKomova2012 6 months ago
@ShawnVikaKomova2012 her DTY is always scary to see. Aswell as Ohashi's
KMoney3187 6 months ago
@KMoney3187 Yes it is. Just realized I began reading Blythe Lawrence's 2010 article on Visas and not 2011. I'm such a moron, haha! But I do bet she's having trouble with her DTY if she is competing. I thought she was.
ShawnVikaKomova2012 6 months ago
@ShawnVikaKomova2012 lol. i think its their twisting technique that scares me. they do it like kurbatova but with ALOT less power.
KMoney3187 6 months ago
@KMoney3187 That's like a perfect comparison! I agree completely. So what are your thoughts on Visas?
ShawnVikaKomova2012 6 months ago
@ShawnVikaKomova2012 i always like Visa's. their the steppingstone to the World Champiosnhips and showcases the talent of the USA.
KMoney3187 6 months ago
@KMoney3187 Yes they are. What do you think the podium will be (sorry, I didn't word that question right)? Wieber, Raisman, and then Bross, Douglas, Maroney, Skinner, and Memmel fight for bronze?
ShawnVikaKomova2012 6 months ago
@ShawnVikaKomova2012 to be honest i can't give any kind of prediction. The field this year is very tight. Anyone could win really. But my dream podium would be 1.Wieber 2.Maronwy 3.Douglas so that they get their automatic spots on the Worlds team. But Bross would be right in there. And Skinner is still a junior no?
KMoney3187 6 months ago
@KMoney3187 Yes, my mistake about Skinner. I'd like to see Wieber and Douglas in Tokyo. I'm not a big fan of Maroney. Her vaulting is spectacular, though. I wonder if Memmel brought some skills back to bars. Do you know if Johnson's doing AA?
ShawnVikaKomova2012 6 months ago
@ShawnVikaKomova2012 Maroney just needs to upgrade beam and bars and fix those fugly legs. And apparently Chellsie has all the skills from '08. Idk if she ADDED some tho. And shawn's not gonna do AA. She's not gonna do floor :(
KMoney3187 6 months ago
@KMoney3187 Wow, good for Memmel. I doubt she added anything. I bet she could do a DTY. Aww, I was looking forward to her floor most of all! This really limits her chances of being in Tokyo...
ShawnVikaKomova2012 6 months ago
@ShawnVikaKomova2012
Shawn has little power, just quick rotation. She gets minimal height and has little set.
Gabby has clear form errors but they are getting better. Shawn had numerous messy qualities that just never improved.
FlicTuckFull 6 months ago
@FlicTuckFull Shawn doesn't get a lot of height, but she gets a ton of distance!
What were Shawn's numerous messy qualities that just never improved? Her obvious flexibility issue or her messy block on vault? Other than that, I can't think of much.
ShawnVikaKomova2012 6 months ago
@ShawnVikaKomova2012
It wasn't so much her lack of flexibility (although she had that) it was her unsquare hips during her leaps. They were quite bad. Like you said her messy block. Her inability to set properly, her BHS on beam have pretty bad leg seps, her low landing standing full on beam, her low landing full twisting double back off beam.
If you're talking about her getting distance over getting height on her tumbling that's usually a bad quality.
FlicTuckFull 6 months ago
@FlicTuckFull They were unsquare because of her lack of flexibility, I'd say. But her form on the back full on beam, in my opinion, is the best ever. What do you think is difference that Wieber and Johnson have when they set?
It is a bad quality, but still it shows her power.
ShawnVikaKomova2012 6 months ago
@ShawnVikaKomova2012
No. The chinese cheat their leaps too, and they clearly have the flexibility to not. It's a form error that has nothing to do with flexibility. Although, yes, she may do it because it makes her look like she hits 180 (which she still doesn't) her unsquare hips are more indirectly related to her lack of flexibility.
Shawn lands extremely low on her standing full ...
Wieber has weird takeoffs, but she does set better than SJ.
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FlicTuckFull 6 months ago
@FlicTuckFull CONT, Yes, Shawn lands super low on her standing full, but Wieber only lands it a bit higher and Johnson does it with better form.
ShawnVikaKomova2012 6 months ago
@ShawnVikaKomova2012
Yea, Wieber's full is quite bad too, but I don't get when this became a Wieber V SJ thing. Just because Wieber has iffy form on things doesn't make SJ's form any better.
FlicTuckFull 6 months ago
@FlicTuckFull Oh, haha well I wasn't trying to make it that but people say that Wieber's back full and Silivas are better but I have to disagree. Yes, Johnson's set on her tumbling is worse, but the form and landings (except on her triple) are a lot better.
ShawnVikaKomova2012 6 months ago
@ShawnVikaKomova2012
I'd give Shawn landings for sure (minus her triple). But Wieber's double double is better than Shawn's. Shawn's was more consistent though.
FlicTuckFull 6 months ago
@FlicTuckFull Yeah, Shawn would almost always take a small step or even stick. Wieber's is a lot higher but her feet aren't as perfect as Shawn's or Cheng's were in the Silivas.
ShawnVikaKomova2012 6 months ago
@ShawnVikaKomova2012
It shows power that is uncontrolled. It is a lack of basic tumbling training.
FlicTuckFull 6 months ago
@FlicTuckFull I wouldn't say she exactly lacks tumbling training, but it's obvious she doesn't have the same basics. I don't see what makes you think Shawn's set is much worse than Wieber's.
ShawnVikaKomova2012 6 months ago
@ShawnVikaKomova2012
Wieber's set is quite bad, but at least she actually sets. LOL
FlicTuckFull 6 months ago
@FlicTuckFull Honestly, I don't see much of a difference. Haha, could you elaborate a bit?
ShawnVikaKomova2012 6 months ago
@ShawnVikaKomova2012
Wieber goes up, and back (and sideways alol)
and Shawn goes back.
FlicTuckFull 6 months ago
@FlicTuckFull Yeah, Wieber and Memmel go sideways on their twisting. I guess Shawn's set is a decent amount lower than Wieber's which is of course why her tumbling is low.
ShawnVikaKomova2012 6 months ago
love that landing
agators212 7 months ago
BEAUTIFUL!!!!!! I never knew how great she was
livelaffluvgymnastix 7 months ago
One of my favorites routines of the meet (:
Bridey102893 7 months ago
she is going to the olympics..no doubt
Airpod101 7 months ago
Wow, she did a really good job.
WaterEngel4 7 months ago