Director of School Choice Documentary "The Lottery" - Madeline Sackler

[faronkeilbatch]

nice conversation. hope to see more of this..

[FRSFreeStateNow]

If Local Governments want to have Private School Choice, then they can do that. But it shouldn't be forced on them by the Federal Government. Local Control in education means just that.

[linkdude64]

"Armchair quarterback" is a good analogy. This lady should come and substitute in the city of L.A. Yes, every parent wants the best for their kids. BUT, the successful children have VERY involved parents. The lower performing African American and Latino parents, generally, are not as involved. And these parents aren't firm in raising their kids; I am in a school that is very diverse.

[MsJanetWood]

Armchair quarterback?

I would like to see her attempt to teach a remedial math class at a junior high in Compton or Watts?

Lady wouldn’t last a week!

God bless the hard-working dedicated inner city teachers who risk their lives daily! Teaching the children of gang-members,drug-addicts, prostitutes, illegal immigrants, poverty-stricken families, etc. Many times, going beyond the call of duty to help those people!

Those teachers are the TRUE ROCK STARS!

[MsJanetWood]

The kids that talk loud and laugh during the movie! The ones that throw popcorn at the screen! The ones that run up and down the movie aisles. The ones that keep getting up to go to the bathroom! Those kids!

Do you think those kids could sit down for a 45 minute Math Lesson?

They can't sit still during a movie! You think they are going to pay attention to their math teacher?

So, who do we blame? The teacher? The administrators? The parents? Or the kids?

[nlscb2]

Nick needs to stop interrupting his interviewees. He also needs to smile more. It makes libertarians look like humorless jerks.

[meloveanna]

she's almost attractive

[nicademus1974]

The biggest problem with public schools is that they are run by the government. Like anything that is run by government, it is massively wasteful and inefficient. The real solution is to get the government out of your child's education. The government can't even deliver the mail yet you entrust the education of your child to them? According to my states website each child in my state gets $16,342 per year for schooling. Yet "we" are not spending enough? Ridiculous. We are spending way to much...

[nicademus1974]

@nicademus1974 To continue. I am a father of 2 boys. My oldest went to public school for 1 year. It is a joke. The teacher actually told me that because my child was so advanced that they could teach my child, OR the rest of the class. Then has the nerve to tell me my son is a discipline problem because he was bored in class and tired of coloring and not learning anything. All this for 16k a year. Jeez what a bargain. So... we started home schooling. I teach them the basic 3 R's cont...

[nicademus1974]

@nicademus1974 and i hire a tutor to teach specific subjects or advanced subjects. In the first year it cost me about $6000 to give my kid a world class education that state run schools could never, in their wildest dreams, come close to matching. For more info on public schooling go to schoolsucks podcast.

[gero1369]

So, what happens to the kids that don't make it in the lottery or to the kids who's parents don't care much about them? For the latter, they are put into public schools, make the public schools look worse, and they eventually get shut down or underfunded. As for the kids that don't get picked in the lottery, i have not a clue what happens to them. I'd like to find out.

[adamitshelanu]

I wonder if Madeline Sackler, an alumna of Duke U., will be allowed on campus?

[nlscb2]

@adamitshelanu They let Tucker Max speak there. Of course, I suspect the powers at be find her more much offensive.

[whoo689]

A fucking lottery just to get into one of the better schools in the area. My god, these bureaucrats are fucked up in the head. "Here's a great idea! Let's give only SOME kids the chance to go to a good school in a bad area just so long as they get their name picked randomly" HELLO! In what world is that an efficient system? WHY do you fucking need a lottery? Are they afraid of "overcrowding" and can't accomodate all the parents who want it? Just build more schools. Simple as that.

[whoo689]

@whoo689 Give them school choice and make more charter schools (or turn the regular public ones into charter). It's not that fucking hard. At least not a hard concept to get.

[whoo689]

@whoo689 Any parent or student who wants to apply for a school that doesn't require some sort of entrance exam should be allowed to. As far as I know, most (or all) charter schools don't require entrance exams. So, if you ask me, ALL the parents who want their kids to go should have that option. A lottery is the dumbest fucking thing ever. Since when did it become "wise" to put children's futures up to chance like that? "You can have a good future, but those other kids can't."

[whoo689]

@whoo689 Only 400 slots in that public charter school?? WTF? That's one small-ass school. I went to a regular public high school thta had 1500 students. Yes, it was in a fairly wealthy area, but it wasn't that bad of a school, either. If charter schools are able to do more with less and achieve results, why can't they up it to, say, 1,000 students? Must be the work of teachers' unions and bureaucrats restricting these charter schools just to only minimally placate folks.

[AnarchyEnsues]

@whoo689 400 slots a year maybe?

no to sure how many grades you have in lower schools, but i assume it is 5? so that is over 2000 kids.

[DoomHippie]

@whoo689

No, no, their concerned not of overcrowding, but undercrowding of THEIR schools.

[BlameTheFirst]

"He [Obama] shut down the school choice program in DC."

The guy claims he supports public schools, yet he sends his two daughters to a prestigious private school. Hypocritical?

[blogegog]

She struck me as not a serious thinker when Nick had to be the one to bring up the fact that Obama shut down the DC voucher program.

[sugarkang]

I really like that Nick isn't wearing a leather jacket to an interview.

[svd348]

I really like that Nick doesn't force anything on her or try to make her admit 'You Libertarians were right all along!' He asks the right questions and reveals that she really didn't come at it from a libertarian perspective which makes the point more valid I think.

[tzadik19]

Actually Mr. Gillespie's note near the end is to the point: that the system is structured to maintain the existing social order: earlier in the show he notes that Obama ended school choice in Washington D.C. Take this in conjunction with the fact that for his own children, Mr. Obama does exercise socio-economically enabled school choice! Actions speak louder than words: watch what he does, not what he says.

[glennd7962]

Don't fall for the rhetoric. Charters and Choice haven't and don't' produce meaningful improvements in educational quality. No lesser an expert than Diane Ravitch - a top education official in the Bush admin and a big supporter of No Child Left Behind - have changed their minds due to the data that is now available on both approaches. Neither national standards nor choice have budged overall performance - 8th grade scores haven't budged since '98. This woman is just spouting rhetoric.

[XCritonX]

@glennd7962 So a political shill, who supports the failed "No Child Left Behind" program says that charter schools are worth it and you believe her? Choice and freedom will always triumph over oppression and central planers.

If parents want charter schools who are any of us to deny them? Freedom is not about forcing other people to do what we think is better for them. It is about letting people choose what they want and dealing with their choices, both good and bad.

[AllTheSame711]

Fuck public school we pay for it indirectly through taxes and then it takes like 4 months to fire a shitty teacher. Back in the day when our schools were great we paid for it out of pocket and that meant we had more power on who teaches our children.

[anarchylogic]

@AllTheSame711 In some areas 4 months would be light speed. For some areas getting a bad teacher gone is just not possible.

[jnjnelson]

All my elementary age children are now in charter schools. Charter schools are far superior to other government schools, but the ideal is to allow taxpayers to keep their money and parents and children to keep their freedom of choice as to which school is best, including no school at all. If parents don't have complete freedom in the education of their children, government is not doing its job of protecting freedom. When government limits that freedom, tyranny abounds.

[oilhammer04]

If public schools focused more on education rather than propaganda, they might make better progress.

[Mostdef]

end the department of education

[Sondre7]

Fridmans legacy is moving forward :-)

[Wormtail81]

This issue is the one that will help get Libertarian ideas into the public discussion.