Shakujikoen Sardine Run - (1991)

[nottmile]

2007年、団塊の世代が引退したため、そこを境に、西武線はじ­め、多くの鉄道会社では混雑が緩和されたそうです。現在ではこの­映像ほどすごい混雑はしていませんよね。

The baby boomers retired the job in 2007. Seibu Ikebukuro line and others(example, JR lines,Tokyo-Metro lines, Other Private Railways) isn't more crowded than before 20 years. I use it everyday, so I know that.

[gof22]

Besides helping people get into trains what other things did they have to do?

[lylehsaxon]

@gof22 At the time this was taken, they also took tickets by hand and basically made sure it was safe for the train to depart. Then they put in automatic ticket machines, and the railways have been cutting back on the number of employees they have, so there are fewer of and fewer of them in the stations. Mainly it's just the automated machines, cameras, and the trains. - LHS

[qfan500]

なんか、この動画は悪意を持った外人にコピーされています。オン­リー・イン・ジャパンというタイトルで

[jlocolorado]

@qfan500 well it might not be only in Japan ... but this is in Japan, right? What is not clear to me is how old the video is?

[iceyme015]

mind boggling....

[wulvie]

西武池袋線！僕はこの電車に毎日乗ってる。ラッシュ時になれば、­めちゃくちゃになるよ～！

[nottmile]

なんか…動画に写ってる駅員さん、今も石神井公園で活躍中のよう­な……(なんか顔が似てる)

[lylehsaxon]

@nottmile ずっと同じ駅にいたかも知りません....

[TheAyora]

O.O ESPERO QUE TENGAN VENTILACION :/

[lylehsaxon]

@TheAyora Ventilation? Actually, the old train cars (this is from 1991) had better ventilation than the new ones, which are more energy efficient. Fortunately though, this line is less crowded now than when I took this in 1991. - LHS

[thewayurh61024]

ちなみに今の池袋線はこんなに混みませんよ

[WhiteTiger333]

And I thought the NY subway was crowded at the rush times! I hope the station in this video was the last stop before city centre. :D

[lylehsaxon]

@WhiteTiger333 - Yes, actually it *was8 the last stop before the end of the line - Ikebukuro. This was taken in 1991 BTW, and they've improved the line since then, so it's not this crowded now. - LHS

[Pakunin61]

Pero en un país desarrollado como Japón, cómo permiten que les traten así, como si fueran animales?

[lylehsaxon]

@Pakunin61 Well - first, please remember that this was taken in 1991 - some 20 years ago, and it's much better now. They realized there was a problem with overcrowding then and worked at improving the train system. But even then - the people who get on the train (and I was one of them - still am) were never angry at the people pushing - they wanted on the train in order to get to work in time and were grateful for help getting aboard. Seriously. - LHS

[filipos1990]

you never wondered if anyone wants to get OUT??

[lylehsaxon]

@filipos1990 Well, it looks like it would be impossible, but when someone says clearly "Orimasu! Orimasu!" (I'm getting off!), and begins pushing towards the door, then people get off the train to make way for them. On this train, that very rarely happened though (remember this is from 1991 - it's less crowded now), as everyone were commuters headed to the end of the line, Ikebukuro, and everyone got off there together. - LHS

[philip2go]

i like to see these happen in Los angeles Metro Link.... also in the philippines LRT and Metro train ... and WTF in new york subways.... he he he

[LondonTransportPhoto]

Hahaha, I am sorry but that is quite funny I must say. I expect we would do that on the London Underground in London if it were possible, but unlike Japanese Metro Systems ours has the stupidest gaps between train and platform you could imagine.

[lylehsaxon]

@LondonTransportPhoto Stations here where the track curves have a large gap. I fell between the train the platform (up to my knees) in Shibuya once. The men on both sides were quick to grab my arms and pull me back up though. (Very sore shins for a while after that...) - LHS

[LondonTransportPhoto]

@lylehsaxon Oh lord, what an awful experience! I am sorry to hear that. Clearly health and safety isn't as much of a concern in Japan as it would appear to be in England.

[lylehsaxon]

@LondonTransportPhoto But Japan is very focused on health and safety! Their trains are among (maybe *the*) safest in the world!  The thing in this 1991 video (note that things have improved over the past two decades) highlights how important it is to be on-time in Japan! While very overcrowded, I used this line for 16 years and never heard of anyone getting injured, although certainly elderly people would avoid riding the morning crush-rush trains! - LHS

[ABCmatti]

いやいやＯＫじゃねーだろ笑

[kotekninek]

hahahhah

i live there now

not much has changed :D

[lylehsaxon]

@kotekninek Last express stop on the way to Ikebukuro! That's a really nice area by the way. It must be nice to live there (except for the morning commute!) - LHS

[kotekninek]

@lylehsaxon

oh yes, the morning commute is so bad :D

[miyasanazabu]

おつかれさまです。

[69nohohon]

まさかの石神井ｗｗ

仕方ないだろ！！！！

出勤時間が限られてんだから！

いつもこんなかんじで耐えてます。

それがもう普通です。

[satokun153]

修学旅行で東京旅行して東京に憧れている高校生にこういう動画を­沢山みせたいね。これが都会の現実。

お金持ちじゃないと東京では生活できないんだよって。



[lylehsaxon]

@satokun153 東京の生活は、確かに、楽ではないですね！ この動画なんですが、19年前の風景なので、現在は、もう少し良­くなりました。 それにしても、東京の満員電車は、確かに、恐ろしいです！ 自殺が多いの一つの原因だと思います！

[whowho]

ONe of these days, Singapore is going to be like that too. A tiny country but wanting 6 million people. Oh boy.....

[lylehsaxon]

@whowho Re: "One of these days, Singapore is going to be like that too" Now you mention it, I recently read an article saying that conditions are getting crowded there. When I visited in 1986, (or maybe 1985, I'm not sure), there was no subway - only many buses. How extensive is the subway system now? - LHS

[whowho]

@lylehsaxon - Singapore's MRT system is extensive, runs round the island. It's fantastic, but for a tiny island to have SO MANY PPL is ridiculous.

[lylehsaxon]

@whowho Tokyo is rather crowded, but it's a larger area. How many people are in Singapore now? I wonder how many more there are than when I visited there in 1986....

[MAXwellchikenrice]

@lylehsaxon there are 5 millions here right now. Singapore MRT is not extensive at all atm, compared to Tokyo, London, NYC or even HK. the system was developed into the bare minimum over the past 20 years and its going to double in 10 years, but im pessimistic about crowds too since the population is increasing faster than the MRT is expanded...

[Netrunner001]

guy almost kills himself at 0:39

[heymonkey10]

Thumbs up to 0:39 slip

[lylehsaxon]

@heymonkey10 Yeah - well he did get that guy onto the train (and to work on time presumably).

[sammy122576]

0:39 he almost slipped lol

[Cuttyk]

:39 - slip in to help!

[shimane4001]

旗でこけそうな駅員さん可愛い＞＜

ぐいっと押そうよし！！！

[e233Tomoyuki]

最近はまだマシになった方だと思う

[lylehsaxon]

@e233Tomoyuki たしかに！フレックスタイムもあるし、電車の数が増えてるし..­. これは、1991年で撮ったので...

[Curiousquest2]

whatever it is i love japanse products

[BoringVideosInk]

I will always have fond memories of Tokyo and Ginza and can recommend it as a nice holiday...The people are generally very nice :-)

[lylehsaxon]

@BoringVideosInk Yes - and even in this video, they are nice! No one is angry or anything, they're just making the best of the situation and getting to work on time! But again, this was in 1991 - it's better now. - LHS

[BoringVideosInk]

I went to Japan a few years ago...but never saw this although I had heard about it...Good video :-)

[lylehsaxon]

@BoringVideosInk Thanks! Yeah, this was taken almost 20 years ago. It's not this intensely crowded any more for many reasons. Companies began flex-time; the railways increased the number of tracks and trains; people don't try as hard to get on a crowded train, etc. Occasionally (when it's the last train out on a Friday night, etc.) it still gets intense, but not usually. - LHS

[daniel849]

Didn't people die because of not enough air or long punctures or something like that???

[lylehsaxon]

@daniel849 Well - first, this was taken in 1991, and it's not this crowded any more since they increased the number of trains and added some new lines. And, no, I've never heard of anyone dieing, although I had a friend whose PDA got broken.  Also, very old people, pregnant women, etc. don't ride the trains when they're this crowded. - LHS

[lylehsaxon]

@mathozero Good question. Look how unhappy she looks as the train starts on its way.... Things have improved since this was taken in 1991 though - it's not this intense any more - fortunately! It's still crowded though - always crowded during the morning and evening rush times. - LHS

[mathozero]

OMG wt if the ladys bag contains fragile stuff like when u push it it breaks who is going to be held responsible?

[gaskete]

0:40 he almost fall down

[lylehsaxon]

@gaskete Yeah - he dropped the flag in a hurry to help that guy get on the train before it was too late, and then he slipped on it.... - LHS

[shellysstuff]

That is insane!

[dreamazurite]

i'm surprised the glass door didn't burst open...

No wonder Japan invaded China... there's just not enough space on that island!

[aryowailangitoyo97]

like that in india or indonesia only, if a train gets crowded like that, people go up on top of the train or go to the train driver!

one more time: ONLY IN INDIA AND INDONESIA!

search: Tegal Arum Rush'

that is in indonesia

[lylehsaxon]

@aryowailangitoyo97 Yeah - people never ever ever ride on the roofs here and they never ever ever ever ever ride in the cabs with the driver! I was very surprised to see that in the video you recommended! - LHS

[AmberFur]

is that life?

[lylehsaxon]

@AmberFur Well... I used to ask myself something like that when was a sardine on this line myself. But I took this in 1991 - and they've improved the line since then and while it's still crowded, it's not as crowded as in this video. - LHS

[ckool900]

more like awesome to get a boner in there with all them asian chicks

[lylehsaxon]

That could be dangerous... they have passed stricter laws here about men harassing women on the trains. Being careless can earn a person jail time. Actually, many of the trains now have a women-only car, and they've increased the number of trains, so it's not usually this crowded any more (this was taken in 1991). - LHS

[xuligan1989]

lol :D:D

[LavaMountainKat]

it would suck to get a boner in there.

[Richeggmaster]

XD What does your father do? He pushes people into the train FTW!!!

[jcsf9]

Don't come crying to me if someone breaks a bone in this process XD

[alex10324533]

whatching this its so funny i wouldnt like to be in that train tho LOOL

[kensakudesu3000]

家畜の大輸送

人間というよりロボットだね

おかしいでしょこれ毎日繰り返すの

[lylehsaxon]

Well, this was taken in 1991, and the system has been improved since then, so it's better now. Anyway, I'd rather be on a crowded train that is on-time every day than a train that is less crowded, but always late! The Tokyo train system is really very excellent. - LHS

[korewananidesukayo]

that's good then- transport management in sydney is so bad

[lylehsaxon]

In what way? Not enough trains?  Or running off schedule? - LHS

[korewananidesukayo]

Previously it was both. Last month they introduced a new timetable which included a lot more morning services, which has eased conjestion to some degree, though the trains still fail to consistently come on time.

[pr5021]

hahahaha really funny people hahahahaha  XDDDDDDDDD jajajajajajajajjajaja

[WantToBeAmerican1]

WOW. they should quad the tracks and platforms. They need it!

[lylehsaxon]

They didn't have the land to make it four-tracks wide all the way down the line, but since this video was taken in 1991, they've added a four track station (where express trains can pass locals), elevated part of the line, and there are now seamless connections with a couple of subway lines. They're always working on the system, but 30,000,000 people (population of metropolitan Tokyo) is a lot of people to transport! - LHS

[500Sharks]

LOL the guy almost slipped at 0:40

[DetEJagDe]

Ahahaha

[rts9100]

JESUS CHRIST!!! I'm GLAD I don't live out there!

[lylehsaxon]

Well, this was taken in 1991 - it's not as bad now, although it's still crowded in the mornings. There are 30,000,000 people in the full Tokyo metropolitan area (including Kanagawa, Saitama, & Chiba). - LHS

[prana888]

i cannot believe this happens in human civilization

[lylehsaxon]

Well - it's actually not as bad as it looks. It's not fun for sure, but the ride from here to the next stop (the last stop, since this is an express) is only about 20 minutes. People want to get to work on time, so.... Also - this was taken in 1991, and they've since improved the system, so it's not quite this crowded now. - LHS

[TheUniversalBeatz]

I´m Glad to live in germany!!!

[lylehsaxon]

Yes, I enjoyed traveling In Germany by train when I visited Europe. As for Tokyo, they've expanded the system somewhat since this 1991 video and it's not usually so crowded now. - LHS

[elmoek]

in Buenos Aires-Argentina this happens every day....

[lylehsaxon]

Both in the morning and at night, or only in the morning? It's usually more crowded in the morning in Tokyo. It's a little less crowded at this station now though (this video was taken in 1991). - LHS

[kagami98]

昔の石神井公園って、こんなに人が多かったんだ、今じゃ駅員は２­人程度しかホームにいない。ていうか、赤い旗で駅員がこけそうに­なったのに吹いたｗ。

[lylehsaxon]

そう - 1991年はすごかった時間があった。 フレックスタイムと電車の数が増えてから、大分よくなった。 正しい、中央線はまだきつい時は多いですけどなぁ...

[thibaulthalpern]

And I'd say bare in mind these are Japanese and if not, mostly other East Asians who tend to be much lighter and smaller. So, they're packing it in there a lot. I doubt they could pack it in as much with big tall guys like the one at 1:17

;-)

[lylehsaxon]

That guy at 1:17 - well, he used that line for 16 years and was one of the sardines many times! Tall is okay - but people who are big horizontally really do take up extra space. - LHS

[thibaulthalpern]

LOL I like your lightness on the joke, Mr. 1:17 ;-) Good sardine!

[CrimeAvenger2]

This video is 1991.

Today,Two routes were constructed.

The train is not crowded now.

[lylehsaxon]

It's much less crowded, but it still gets crowded (depending on what you're used to). I went back to Hibarigaoka (this is Shakujikoen) and took a video in 2008, showing exactly how it is. Please see "Less Crowded in 2008". So, yes, it's much much better, but still crowded during the morning rush (just not this crowded). - LHS

[sabu85]

do you still live near shakujikoen?

i live in waseda dori, about 5 mins by foot from the park.

[lylehsaxon]

That's a nice area! I used to wish I lived near the park! Where I used to live was closer to Hibarigaoka (I'm over on the Chuo Line now), but I stopped at Shakujikoen to video the trains since Shakujikoen was the last stop of the express trains before they ran all the way into Ikebukuro. (I didn't put it in the title on this one, but this was also taken in 1991.) - LHS

[cyclenut]

In FAT America we just put one over weight person into a large SUV.....

When will the rest of the world live and destory the world like us? Then we can have more world wars, fighting for the last of the oil.

[lylehsaxon]

Well, yeah, I'm all for train travel. I didn't take this video (in 1991) to criticize train travel, rather I just wanted to show how things were in the morning crush-rush. It's not this bad now in 2009, but it's still crowded. However crowded it is though, the trains usually run on time, so you get where you're going - on time. - LHS

[xwawas]

ya this is in japan...i know already when i see it..

its hard to see people being pushed into a sardine can..lol ...its good japan increasd it

[hAApymonkey]

hahahah

0:39

:D  :D :D

[lambstone2000]

酸欠になりそう

[jrjr1970]

This is Shakujiikoen Station at the time of 1991.

There are many people, but thinks that it was improved a little when I compare it in those days now.

[lylehsaxon]

Exactly. Shakujikoen Station in 1991 (in February to be precise) was as shown in this video, but since then they've added some new tracks (more places for express trains to pass local trains) and there are more trains. Also - and this is a huge improvement - there is flex time now! In 1991, basically everyone had to be at work by 9:00. Now, typically, people can come (at many companies) between 9:00 and 11:00. - LHS

[babyzdp700]

wow...that is amazingly sad...

[lylehsaxon]

Yeah, but the thing is, this station is near one of the nicer areas of Tokyo - Shakujikoen, which includes a park, a lake, and some interesting shops and nice restaurants. The downside is getting to work! But keep in mind that this was taken in 1991 - it's not as bad now in 2009 (although it's still crowded). - LHS

[jjis2fast4u]

look at 00:39 lol so funny how he almost slipped..lol

[rockman999129]

this is 1991 jr

[lylehsaxon]

Yeah - 1991.  It's not that crowded in 2009.

LHS

[emptyangel]

I'm glad they've actually done something about this.

I was utterly shocked when I saw the 1991 video.

[lylehsaxon]

Yeah - and this video is from 1991 too BTW. They've never stopped building new rail lines and expanding exiting ones. In 1950, there was one subway, and now there are... about 14 lines I think. They have also be adding tracks and trains on the surface lines. It takes a lot of trains to move 30,000,000 people around! - LHS

[pal2011]

still need more trains.... they should get enough trains at least until they no longer need pushers and people can get themselves into the train.

[lylehsaxon]

They have increased them though - this video was taken in 1991. It's still crowded every morning and I don't enjoy myself going to work, but it's not as bad as in this video. - LHS

[falcord]

I've been to japan last summer, and it didn't feel croweded at all, we even got a lot of trains between 7AM-9AM and never got a sardine run like this.

By the way, Shibuya station is enormous... ¬¬

[lylehsaxon]

Yeah, some lines are smooth all day, but things were a bit more crowded in 1991, when this was taken (on the Seibu Line). Two things have happened: 1) Companies started allowing flex-time, 2) the number of lines and trains was increased. Still, I bet you weren't using the Chuo Line out around Mitaka at about 8:00 a.m., or you might not be saying the trains weren't crowded! The Chuo Line, on average (all day), is the most crowded train in the country I've heard and I believe! - LHS

[Raideortega]

PUSH! PUSH!!

[isik2408]

what if the door's going to break...

[lylehsaxon]

Since they knew this sort of thing would happen when they built the trains, they overbuilt things like the motors, brakes, and doors. It doesn't seem like the doors could stand so much pressure, but I've never heard of them breaking. - LHS

[A4ism]

Isn't it great that these railcars are typically overengineered? Isn't the typical maximum occupancy something like 180 people? How many are in this railcar -- about 400?

[lylehsaxon]

Yeah - when I was packed into one of those trains, for some reason, it never occurred to me that it might be dangerous! The trains always accelerated no problem (no matter how many people were aboard), and they always stopped no problem (no matter how many people were aboard). I think they probably gave/give the trains motors with more power than can possibly be used, and better brakes than were/are needed. Wheel bearings used to go bad though (or was it flat spots on the wheels?). - LHS

[scrabbleking1965]

I lived there for 2 years and never saw quite this bad.... maybe once at Shibuya at about 12:30 at night and about 3 trains didn't come and everybody that was waiting HAD TO make this train otherwise they wouldn't catch the last train out of their transfer station to the burbs, me included, now way was I going to get stuck in Shinjuku overnight.

[lylehsaxon]

Yeah - Shinjuku isn't the best place to be stuck out in the cold all night! What years were you here? This video was taken in 1991, and it's not nearly as bad now (although it's still crowded). This is the Seibu-Ikebukuro Line in the morning - before companies allowed people to work flex-time, so you had a huge number of people all fighting to get to work by 9:00 a.m. In addition to flex-time, they have increased the number of trains, built new lines, etc. - LHS

[Biglele208]

I could hear a japanese voice

[lylehsaxon]

Yeah - there's a bit of Japanese talking in there - from the announcement of the station name (Shakujikoen), to the station employees talking with each other, etc. - LHS

[POON3345]

I can't imagin if I was working as an Oshiya I will be tired by the end of the day from pushing the commuters into overpack densha.

[lylehsaxon]

Well, they only had to push like this for a couple of hours in the morning. And, actually, the guys in this video are just regular railroad employees who usually do different work. They help out in the morning, and sometimes hire part time university students to help push for those two hours or so. And... remember that this was in 1991 - it's not quite so crowded now that companies have flex time and there are more trains on the rails. - LHS

[RuneScapeSalva]

PUSSSHHH!!!!...PUSSHHHH.!!! craZYYY....lol

[UpsidedownVieweing]

ahahaha...... that looks pretty similar to our own trains during rush hour here in Manila w/o the staff packing us in xD

It get's pretty annoying but no choice. Oh and the back cars are dedicated to female passengers so they don't get pregnant in the process... LMAO!! XD

[lylehsaxon]

Recently, Japan also has made one of the train cars a women-only car - either the first car, the last car, or a middle car, although I've only seen a middle car on one line, the Toyoko Line. It's a nuance to male passengers to have it in the middle though, as then you can't move through the train as it forms a kind of Berlin Wall in the middle... - LHS

[UpsidedownVieweing]

But seriously, I admire the Japanese people's dedication to what they do and that's something I wish we had here... :)

[lylehsaxon]

Well, there is less of that now than when this video was taken - in 1991. The biggest change was there was almost no flextime in 1991, but now most large companies have it, so people don't feel as compelled to smash onto a particular train, no matter how crowded it is. That said, when the trains are running late for some reason, then it does get pretty intense - pretty much like in this video. - LHS

[UpsidedownVieweing]

That's good to know that their slave drivers are doing something to ease the pressure on the people. Then again flexitime is also a double edged sword because of the extra time they can spare (no matter how little) people tend to become a little busier therfore a bit more tiring.

Well, cheers to them and to you!

[thibaulthalpern]

Is this female only car idea still around? Calcutta (Kolkata) recently tried to institute that and it was quickly abolished in less than a week. In fact, I think it was just this week or last week when that happened.

[lylehsaxon]

Yeah - typically they have it set up that one train car on trains arriving at a central Tokyo location between something like 7:30 and 9:30 a.m. will be women only. After that time, it's back to every car being the same. - LHS

[Extr3m3lif3]

CAuse the train cant lift all weight? =P

[lylehsaxon]

But it can - they have really powerful motors in those trains - so it doesn't matter how overloaded they are - they call alway easily accelerate (and stop). - LHS

[memohavok]

why they dont do a second floor or something like that!?!?

[lylehsaxon]

There are some trains with a second deck, but they're only on reserved seat trains. The problem with the two-level trains is access - you can't have two levels where the doors are, so they are built with only one or two doors per car. The best system for getting the maximum number of people into a car seems to be the six door (per side) cars on the Yamanote Line with thin seats that fold into the wall in the morning, so everyone stands. They're real cattle cars! - LHS

[oval215]

何回見ても面白い

[lylehsaxon]

If that's the case, you should have a look at the "Morning Tokyo Trains in 1991" clip. - LHS

[POON3345]

Can get some videos of the Shinkansen train please?

[lylehsaxon]

I have some actually - and of course they don't do this with the Shinkansen trains! I'll try to get something posted. I have to did the files out of the archives first. - LHS

[POON3345]

Ok Arigato.

[jackieliem2007]

one of the staff's flag ~.~

[ashardman]

I am.... a free man...

Honour and dignity are things I gladly die for. Pain is temporary, glory is forever!!

[ashardman]

I mean, i'm not as stubborn as I might sound, but I rather walk :)

[lylehsaxon]

I walked from that station to its terminal station once - it took three hours! And then I still had to get on another two trains to get where I was going! No - walking doesn't work in this huge city! Moving to a smaller city is probably the best solution! Anwyay, this was taken in 1991 - it's not as bad now in 2008! - LHS

[ashardman]

oh god.... and would you call that LIFE???

[lylehsaxon]

Sure! When you get home after going to and from work in sardine cans, you feel doubly happy to be home again. When everything is comfortable, what's to give it contrast and keep it from becoming boring? Anyway, that was in 1991 - it's not as bad in 2008, since they've improved the system and companies have flex time now. - LHS

[lylehsaxon]

Oops! I meant to click on "Reply" and I clicked on "Remove"! Here's what I wanted to reply to:

"WOW! O__O Imagine recording from inside the train...as the pushing takes place. This is an amazing Video! Thanks for posting - with commentary at the end! Awesome! ^__^"

[lylehsaxon]

Okay - now here's my reply! I've often thought I would like to video the inside of the most crowded trains, but it seemed like it would be rude. But in digitizing my old analog tapes, I did notice one where I videoed the inside a little. I'll see if I can find it, but I'm not sure I should post it - I don't want to be making fun of the train system here actually... - LHS

[Ekowc]

yeah, it looks funny, but when you must take crowded train every day its far from fun.

[lylehsaxon]

Yeah - the first time I rode on a sardine line in Tokyo, I laughed all the way to the station I got off at (biting my tongue to stop myself from being rude), and i laughed on and off for a couple of years after that, but then I stopped laughing - until I dusted off my box of analog tapes and digitized some fo them - including this one. Since it's in the past, it seems okay to laugh. The train I ride every day now is still packed, but better than the one in the video. - L

[studio7manga]

That looks like it would be a fun job.

[lylehsaxon]

That's what people have been saying... and watching these again, I see that it could be! At the time, I was caught up in mentally preparing myself to enter the high-pressure zone of the inside of the sardine can, so it didn't occur to me that it might actually be fun shoving people in - "Get in there!" (Oofff)... - LHS

[AzeriProduction]

LMFAO!!!

[lylehsaxon]

Me too - now. At the time I was just trying to capture the situation, since when I tried to tell people how it is riding the trains here, they never believed me - they thought I was exaggerating when I said that sardines had it better than I did.... - LHS

[sergedemarre]

this is amazing...

[lylehsaxon]

It's slightly less crowded now, but still a sardine run. The "Actually Full Train in 1991" is a better clip, but it's been copied a 1000 times and some people are even saying it's from China! Both this one and the other one were taken on the Seibu-Ikebukuro Line. - LHS