You're LUCKY that Greece does not have a free-hand in FYROM (yet). Greece could send in a small army of real Macedonians to crush this tiny, pathetic, insignificant 'nation'. Hows your glorious navy going? Oh wait, you weaklings don't have one. Your own leaders say that you "have no connection to ancient Macedonia." The entire world is laughing at you. Greece is the #1 investor in your country. Ironic. One day Greece will control the region, and you will be sorry. Renegade Bulgarians!
@thalilmacogangsta1 The whole problem here is a semantics confusion. Let's clarify:When the Greeks say Makedonia,they speak of the Greek prefecture/province called Makedonia to the north of Greece within their borders. Greece never denied their own province's existence,which has been called Makedonia from antiquity till now, nor the existence of your state.Your state, was previously Yugoslavia. Your area was called Vardarska up until 15 years ago.
@thalilmacogangsta1 We never claimed that your FYRO(M) state has been a part of Greece. The south part of your country, From lake Ohrid until our border was part of Greek territory until antiquity and was also annexed by Greece from Bulgaria after the Balkan wars. Austria and Hungary made Bulgaria, Turkey and Greece sign a treaty for these areas (Treaty of Lausanne) and we gave up that north part including the south of Albania for the North Aegean islands.
@thalilmacogangsta1 You sound illeterate, uneducated and brainwashed. Read some books outside your country. Look at the maps of Europe from the time states existed till now. Not only your area was called Vardarska and was part of the Bulgarian Principate, but the area in Northern Greece which is today's Greek northern province called Makedonia, had always been there. Suddenly you have a slavic union called Yogoslavia, and you people came along. Now suddenly you claim you are Macedonians. LOL
@thalilmacogangsta1 And what the fuck does Greece almost becoming communist have to do with anything? That's so irrelevant. So what if the west intervened to make us more americanized? LOL I'm glad, mother russia didn't have her influence over Greece and Americans helped out fight the communist fucks in my country.
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The area to the south of your country was called Paionia in antiquity, it was a Greek speaking area. It was conquered and colonised by Alexander and Philip.
@thalilmacogangsta1 The Greeks were always different tribes. Spartans called themselves Spartans. but they were Greek. Korinthians called themselves Korinthians, but they were Greek. Athenians called themselves Athenians, but they all, just like the others, identified themselves as Greek.Go to the island of Samothrake. Alexander and his father built a monument and carved their name for the Kawirian mysteries as a votive to the goddess victory.He participated in the Olympic Games:ONLY GREEKS DID
@thalilmacogangsta1 And Greece never denied the existence of your nation, or your state. WE DENY THE USE OF A NAME. A NAME INTIMATELY RELATED TO OUR CIVILIZATION. NOT YOURS. What you are doing is a simple trick. You are causing confusion between the name of your country, so that it gives you claims to our northern province and access to the sea. GO READ A BOOK. SERIOUSLY. SCHOLARLY, ACADEMIC BOOKS. AND READ THE SOURCES. ANCIENT SOURCES.
@MacedoniaUpdates tHE TERM "AEGEAN MACEDONIA" WAS MANUFACTURED. THE WORD "AEGEAN" EXISTED SINCE BEFORE HOMER DESIGNATING THE AREA COVERED BY THE BODY OF WATER IN TODAY'S AEGEAN.
@artemiselene The matter here is that even if Makedonians were Greek or weren't, YOU STILL HAVE NO CONNECTION TO THEM. IT'S NOT UP FOR GRABS. LOL YOU ARE SLAVIC. YOUR LANGUAGE CAME ABOUT 1100 YEARS AFTER ALEXANDER. FYRO(M) DIDN'T EVEN EXIST AS A NATION OR A STATE UNTIL A FEW DECADES AGO. ARE YOU TRYING TO RETAIN COHESION IN A STATE OF DISPARATE ETHNIC ORIGIN BY FORGING HISTORY AND A STOLEN NATIONAL HERO CLAIMING AS YOUR OWN?
@artemiselene AND DEMOSTHENES TRIED TO CONVINCE THEM THEY WERE NOT GREEK FOR CLEARLY POLITICAL REASONS. AND THERE IS ANOTHER INSTANCE WERE THE ATHENIANS WERE TRYING TO DEBATE WHETHER SPARTANS WERE GREEK. LOL. THEY DID THE SAME BULLSHIT LIKE WE DO TODAY. BUT THEY ALL UNITED AGAINST THE COMMON ENEMY.
@artemiselene AND THE SPARTANS FOUGHT AND CONQUERED MANY GREEK CITY-STATES. DOES THAT NOT MAKE THEM GREEK? AND THE ATHENIANS RAPED AND PILLAGED MANY OTHER GREEK CITY STATES. DOES THAT MAKE THEM NOT GREEK? AND IN CHINA THE QIN DYNASTY KING UNITED ALL OF CHINA BY CONQUERING IT, GIVING RISE TO MODERN CHINA. ALEXANDER MORE OR LESS FAILED TO UNITE US LOL. WE ARE ANARCHISTS.
@machiavellick Macedonians were a clearly Greek phylum, a Greek race, a Greek tribe. Period. From antiquity to this day. In culture, in history, in language, in religion, in every way. You clowns didn't exist up until a hundred years ago. Not only as a state. Not even as a nation. The modern Greek state is new, but the nation is one of the most ancient in the world's history.
@mac4life2 Lol. Mother Teresa like the rest of your dumb race, nation and country is a fraud. She went and stole money from Haiti, and used it to build suffering homes in India, where she left people who were sick to die, because she believed suffering was cleansing their soul. She was an evil woman. Over 10 million dollars she squandered back in the day. Oh, and plus, she was Albanian... from your area, but Albanian... oops.
@machiavellick Dude you are nuts. It's not just the language all of Greece, including the Macedonian kingdom, shared and in common that makes Makedonians Greeks. It's the culture, the religion, the race, the belief, the ideology, heroes,everything. Moreover, everyone who was of Macedonian descent, just like the Spartans, or the Athenians, or the Korinthians, all claimed to have been Greek and identified as part of the same ethnic group. There's countless quotes and ancient sources. Read a book.
@machiavellick Secondly, you the slavs, who didn't exist as a nation, up until about 600 years ago, and your state up until the Balkan wars came into being only until recently in the last few decades after the collapse of Yogoslavia as FYRO(M), you the clowns are claiming the Greek Macedonian land to the south of your country, which has been Greek land for over 2,500 years, occupied by Greeks, whether conquered or not, (even the Turkish conquerors called Macedonia Greek in maps and in writing).
@mac4life2 Bulgaria does not like us. They only agree with us because they know you're Bulgarians.Come on.Don't lie.U understand Bulgarians when they speak.. they understand you.. oh wait.. it's the same language.. hmm why? Because you were a Bulgarian principate LOL. That's why. You even have the same culture. Same customs. Even the same saints as Bulgarians. Now you are trying not to be Bulgarians. Because you have to forge an identity. A fake one. You create a sense of otherness... yeah ok..
@Xarilaos200Kostumia Lol the Greek riot police is double FYRO(M)'s army. Only Hrusi Avgi would be enough actually. Lol. Wait. We shouldn't even go to war. How about we tell 65% of the businesses operating in their country, which are Greek, and are feeding their dumb bodies and brains with energy to spread such bullshit, to just close up and come back to Greece for a tax free home return? See how much you will beg us to let you change your name to Vardarska, the real name, so we feed you again.
@atanaskostovski You were never ancient. You don't get it. You have created a semantics confusion. They are playing with your mind in your country. They are evil. Your government is funded by the US to create a semantics confusion on the name of Makedonia, by confusion your country's name (which you stole completely, as you created your identity), with the Greek province to the south of your borders, called Makedonia.
@aquax1908 Cyrill and Methodius used the Greek alphabet as a basis to create the slavic alphabet. LOL. Cyrill and methodius were two Greek Byzantine monks. Opps. But the slavomonkeydonians didn't even know that, did they?
@MKDarko What the heck is this 2012 or 2013 every clown fuck keeps saying? Is that the day we rape your mothers? I don't get it. What's this date everyone keeps posting? What the treaties come up? So what? They will be renewed.
@Yanitsaros Paionians spoke Greek and had become hellenised since before the time of Alexander. Vardarksans are slavic. Period. Not even Paionians because they do not come from them. They are don that ancient. Paionians do not exist today.
@lefzn000 Obama is just a puppet, unfortunately, like every American president since Kennedy, they have been controlled by secret orders, and by big multinational corporations with giant business interests, particularly, oil, pharmaceuticals, construction, weapons, and of course banking. Lastly, american imperial policy is in favor of destabilizing the Balkans, thereby creating puppet states, so they can suck all the oil in the Aegean easily and for little cost. Also there is osmium & irridium
@lefzn000 unfortunately, There are also geopolitical and strategic interests in giving this puppet state FYRO(M) access to the Aegean. That's why they want to split up our country. Obama cannot do any difference. He is just a puppet unfortunately. And he is muslim. He is a fraud. He lied to the American people. He hasn't even shown them a real birth certificate. he doesn't care about Greece or anyone. Just the interests of the banks and businesses he serves. Sorry.
@Yanitsaros Paionians spoke Greek and had become hellenised since before the time of Alexander. Vardarksans are slavic. Period. Not even Paionians because they do not come from them. They are don that ancient. Paionians do not exist today.
Wait a second. If i'm right (which I am) greece initially denied Macedonia's existence, and now all of the sudden, as soon Macedonians start to spread their voice and the truth, you greeks now claim that we DO exist, but we have always been a part of greece (notice how I didn't use a capital letter) If you greeks are going to make propaganda, at least make it remotely believable. You are a joke. And I would also like to state that greece almost became communist, but the west intervened.
"You are right"? Lol!!! Greece didn't deny anyone's existence, only the use of a name that is not yours to use. "Spread their voice and the truth"? Loool...monkey, the only thing that you ever spread was your ignorance and idiocy loaded with a whole lot of bull shit...
I did notice how you didn't use a capital letter...I supose breathing and typing at the same time must put a lot of strain in your motor functions, I don't even need to ask about your intellectual capability, your post says it all!!! We do not need to resort to propaganda like you monkeys, we have the entire academic community in our side, all you have is Stefov and piss poor "scientific studies"..
As for who's the joke, well...anyone who has taken a second to listen to your rumblings can tell who is the world's clown...
You were a communist state since before you were invented, what's your point...oh, wait, you are a monkeydonkeyan, therefore you never have a point, you just rave and throw fits like a monkey!!!
Now take your banana and go home monkey, I have better things to do than trying to teach a monkey history...if reading Stefov hasn't burned you two remaining brain cells, watch he vid and see what world renoun historians have to say about the real Macedonia!!!
@thalilmacogangsta1 In Greece the ending of our surnames are saying our roots.
For example -akis is from Crete, -akos from Manu and -idis from Makedonia! How you mean we denied? I am sorry but the propaganda they feed you is really really bad! You came 1000 years after Makedonians! Even your name I am sure is Slavian!
@thalilmacogangsta1 Man what the fuck are you saying? The whole problem here is a semantics confusion. Let's clarify. When the Greeks speak about Makedonia, they speak of the Greek prefecture/province called Makedonia to the north of Greece within its borders. Greece never denied their own province's existence, which has been called Makedonia from antiquity till now. Your state, was previously Yugoslavia. Your area was called Vardarska up until 15 years ago. WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU SAYING?
@thalilmacogangsta1 We never claimed that your FYRO(M) state has been a part of Greece. The south part of your country, From lake Ohrid until our border was part of Greek territory until antiquity and was also annexed by Greece from Bulgaria after the Balkan wars. Austria and Hungary made Bulgaria, Turkey and Greece sign a treaty for these areas (Treaty of Lausanne) and we gave up that north part including the south of Albania for the North Aegean islands.
@thalilmacogangsta1 You illeterate uneducated brainwashed fuck. Read some books outside your country. Look at the maps of Europe from the time states existed till now. Not only your area was called Vardarska and was part of the Bulgarian Principate, but The area in Northern Greece which is today's Greek northern province called Makedonia, had always been there. Suddenly you have a slavic union called Yogoslavia, and you fucks came along. Now suddenly you claim you are Macedonians. LOL
@thalilmacogangsta1 And what the fuck does Greece almost becoming communist have to do with anything? That's so irrelevant. So what if the west intervened to make us more americanized? LOL I'm glad, mother russia didn't have her influence over Greece and Americans helped out fight the communist fucks in my country.
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The area to the south of your country was called Paionia in antiquity, it was a Greek speaking area. It was conquered and colonised by Alexander and Philip.
@thalilmacogangsta1 The Greeks were always different tribes. Spartans called themselves Spartans. but they were Greek. Korinthians called themselves Korinthians, but they were Greek. Athenians called themselves Athenians, but they all, just like the others, identified themselves as Greek. Go to the island of Samothrake. Alexander and his father built a monument and carved their name for the Kawirian mysteries as a votive to the goddess victory.He participated in the Olympic Games:ONLY GREEKS DID
@thalilmacogangsta1 And Greece never denied the existence of your nation, or your state. WE DENY THE USE OF A NAME. A NAME INTIMATELY RELATED TO OUR CIVILIZATION. NOT YOURS. What you are doing is a simple trick. You are causing confusion between the name of your country, so that it gives you claims to our northern province and access to the sea. GO READ A BOOK. SERIOUSLY. SCHOLARLY, ACADEMIC BOOKS. AND READ THE SOURCES. ANCIENT SOURCES.
@thalilmacogangsta1 you are joking with us if you believe that you are Macedonian.you are slav,you speak the slavic language.ancients Macedonians write and speak Greek,not slavic.your bulgaro-albanian country has nothing to do with macedonians.get over it and build your own history.
Can you fyromians translate or understand ancient macedonian foundings? even a 7 year old Greek can do that. We are ready to enslave your country, kill your childs and piss in your dead bodies! You dont even know where are you coming from AlbanianBulgarioTurkish bastards! Make one move and you're fucking dead you uncivilized bastards
You close your eyes and ears to every shred of evidence that proves that Macedonia was and always will be Greece, and jump like the monkeys that you are to every ludicrous propaganda your goverment and their lackies throw at you! The battle of Chaeronea was a battle between Athenians and Thebans against Macedonians and Thessalians, a civil war between rival city states and their allies, and in 1913 we annexed some more Greek lands...I know it hurts to lose, but that's life!!!
@artemiselene how have macedonians ever been greek? had yous not overtaken the part you did in 1913 greeks wouldnt be able to use their current reasoning to say macedonians are greeks. its just your luck that yous overtook it and now stick to this idea that since you have a part of your country called macedonia that macedonians are greek.
"how have macedonians ever been greek?"...Well, there is a very simple answer to that question...Watch this video were over 350 scholars prove that Macedonia and the Macedonians were and always be Greek, and read a book not written by Riste Stefov and his band of idiots and you will be unpleasantly surprised->
->We liberated Macedonia, Epirus and Thrace from the Ottomans in 1913 and defeated the Bulgarians twice when the tried to gain access to Aegean.
All these lands were historically, culturally and demografically Greek and there was an exchange of population between Greece, Turkey, Serbia and Bulgaria after the Balkan wars were over.
We honoured the treaties signed during that time and never demanded the return of Monastiri (Bitola) and its surroundings.
Yes, we all know who is racist and a thief...YOU....hahahahahaaa!!!
You are also legendary for your ignorance and your stupidity and your complete inability to comprehend and accept the God honest truth that Macedonia and Macedonians were and always will be Greek!!! History, culture and language is on our side...all you have is pathetic and ridiculus "studies"
-> that the entire scientific community took one look at them and fell down laughing...hahahaha!!! You are right, Greece is full of Macedonians...Greek-Macedonians, the only type of Macedonians that exist in the world!!! 40% of your population is albanian, 10% is turkish, Shutka is the gypsy capital of Europe, and the rest of your population is comprised of Bulgarians, Serbs and Greeks (Vlachs)->
->you have more mosques than churches, half of your population hit their foreheads on the ground and stick their arses up on the air and pray to allah, you have more gypsies than any other European country and you speak bulgarian with a Serbian accent, who do you think you are fooling little gypsy tatar-mongol monkey?->
-> Your entire existence is based on a lie, you are nothing, you have nothing, so you try to steal everything from us...I repeat, and maby this time your tiny little mind will understand this simple truth...Greece liberated Macedonia from the Ottomans and the Bulgarians who were trying to gain access to the Aegean...we beat you bulgarians back twice....that is life, live with it!!!
@PaunBTMakedonski >> Fyrom >> Krste Misirkov, 1903, "our fathers and grandfathers and great-grandfathers have always been called Bulgarians"
'We are not related to the northern Greeks who produced leaders like Philip and Alexander the Great. We are a Slav people and our language is closely related to Bulgarian.' 'there is some confusion about the identity of the people of this country"
--said FYROM´s Ambassador to Canada Gyordan Veselinov on 24 February 1999.
@PaunBTMakedonski >> Fyrom >> Krste Misirkov, 1903, "our fathers and grandfathers and great-grandfathers have always been called Bulgarians"
'We are not related to the northern Greeks who produced leaders like Philip and Alexander the Great. We are a Slav people and our language is closely related to Bulgarian.' 'there is some confusion about the identity of the people of this country"
--said FYROM´s Ambassador to Canada Gyordan Veselinov on 24 February 1999.
@PaunBTMakedonski Gratz ...I can clearly understand from your poor english that in your country you can't have a fully right education so i am gona teach you few things..Historically macedonia was a greek tribe and there are many facts that can proove this...Also there are many other millions prooving your origin...
You dont see the sun while walking in day and follow him at night.... you want history to know you as thieve ? 10-20 years from now the world history will say that a country who was Vardaska Bonovina was trying to steal land, falsify history and brainwash generations from 1945 untill 2020....poor people....you dont accept your history...the history of Vardaska....
Says the monkey who only reads Riste Stefov and MacDonalds news...Loooool!!!
Wake up retard, they are scholars from Ivy league Universities, not third grade goat herders from Scopje University!!!
Every ancient text you read and every stone you uncover in your flea infested turkish - american protectorate is in Greek, even the tablet decorating your "parliament" building...try to translate that first, and them come and tell me that is not Greek...
@artemiselene In post Bush America, truth has no meaning except that it exists to be subverted and retold to prove what we want it to prove.
Think that GHW Bush being a CIA spook has anything to do with that?
Nah! That is just anti-Americanism put out by the liberal media; they are probably influenced by the ghosts of the millions of innocent people the Bushes are responsible for killing.
find the term Aegean Macedonia in ANY ancient historical document and ill give you a nickel. The Term Aegean was manufactured by the communist Yugoslavs to make claims against Greece. The whole thing is a Historical joke. and so is FYROM.
@MacedoniaUpdates tHE TERM "AEGEAN MACEDONIA" WAS MANUFACTURED. THE WORD "AEGEAN" EXISTED SINCE BEFORE HOMER DESIGNATING THE AREA COVERED BY THE BODY OF WATER IN TODAY'S AEGEAN.
this is all bullshit and i think someone should show the documents of old aegean macedonia how greeks did against the macedonians
that part that has totally brainwashed you was ours and it has always been a part of us but you took it just after the macedonian independence day from the ottomans
3 countries against one
macedonia vs bulgaria,serbia and greece come on is that fair
stop bullshitting and give us our land back scumbags
aegean was never your land dennood. aegean was always greek. what happened is that some of your fellow skopians lived in aegean, just like some albanians where living in Epirus. During the Greek resistance against the Nazis, some partizans of the right-wing side called "ELAS" killed them or sent them back to Yugoslavia among with many Greek communists. They did the same in Epirus where they sent the albanians back home. Unfair? Maybe. But aegean was never your land.
@marioorange r all fucking greek fakes, the ancient macedonia isnt ancient because it was to 1913 united. 2012 is comig the end to greeks is coming the thrue will win
artemiselene,you and your Gayreek lieing government can go spreading the BS lies about how Alexander the Great was not Macedonian and Phillip II was not Macedonians. The whole world knows Macedonia is the homeland of Alexander the Great, Mother Teresa, Pandev, and bunch of other good Macedonians. Keep lieing Gayreeks, one of these days the whole world will laugh at you guys and question you guys for twisting the original history of Macedonia. No wonder Gayreek lie, they have a bad history.
Now you fear punishment and beg for your lives, so I will let you free, if not for any other reason so that you can see the difference between a GREEK KING and a barbarian tyrant, so do not expect to suffer any harm from me. A king does not kill messengers.(ALEXANDER THE GREAT...As quoted in the Historia Alexandri Magni of Pseudo-Kallisthenes, 1.37.9-13)
Demostenes Clear says in Macedonia a place where barbarians live.
And calling him a Greek is a metafore for caling him civilized.
About Alexandar i agree that his mother come form a tribe that has bilived that they are sucsesors of Achilis but Filip is Macedonian and that is a Fact, how ever they are comming from Macedonia and they fell as Macedoians,
I am saying that Macedonia was and always will be Greek!!!
Propaganda is making a false statement and backing it with an invalid source..just like you are doing!!!
So according to you the ancient sources are propaganda...did the ancients foresee the name dispute and prepare propaganda to use against you 2300 years later...lol!!!
Everything I said I backed it up, all you have to do is go to the original ancient sources, your are just pulling "facts" straight out of MacDonalds news!!!
Well if Herodot, Homer, Demosten , Tukidit are strait from MacDonalds then you have a problem not me.
How ever i did not have the attention to fight and ensolt i just wanted to say my opinion, because to me it is a fact that Macedonia and Greece are two independet countries.
Τους λες να η αρχαία πηγή, τους δίνεις την πηγή και το αρχαίο κείμενο και τους λες "δες το κα μόνος σου" και σου απαντάνε ότι είναι προπαγάνδα ενώ σε παραπέμπουν στα ίδια άτομα που ανέφερες χωρίς όμως τις αρχαίες πηγές...έλεος..κανέις δεν είναι τόσο ηλίθιος!!!
@artemiselene AND HE TRIED TO CONVINCE THEM THEY WERE NTO GREEK FOR CLEARLY POLITICAL REASONS. AND THERE IS ANOTHER INSTANCE WERE THE ATHENIANS WERE TRYING TO DEBATE WHETEHR SPARTANS WERE GREEK. LOL. THEY DID THE SAME BULLSHIT LIKE WE DO TODAY. BUT THEY ALL UNITED AGAINST THE COMMON ENEMY.
"And now is justly the barbarian praised by the Athenians for capturing Hellenes? As for Megas Alexandros WHO IS A HELLENE and captured Hellenes, not only did he not imprison his opponents, but enlisted them and made them his allies instead od enemies..."
So in Egypt Aleksandar The Great or else known as Aleksandar the Macedon was pronounsed for Egypt king , faraon , God, does that make him an Egyptian?
He is not a Hellen, may be affter coming in Grece hi infiltradet for the reccongniton that hi is not a barbarian, and about not enslaving that is because he make his army out of them. He concured perssia to and he didn not enslave them.
I totally agree with you here, that he spreed Hellenizam because that was the cradle of Culture, and that is fact also, i agree that he was pronounsed as a son fo zeus because that was the known religion witch comes from greek, and that is a fact also, but you are apsolutlly wrong when you say that Greece and Macedonia are the same.
They are not and not only demosten says that you can see that Herodot does it also, even Homer in his Ilijada says about it.
Demosthenes after failng to convince that Macedonians weren't Hellenes, in order to up-rise the Athenians said:
No king of the Hellenes had ever conquered Egypt with exception of Alexander, and that he did withiut war..."
Even though Xerxes had a huge host with him, he was a barbarian and was defeted by the prudence of the Hellenes; whereas Alexander the Hellene(Greek) has already engaged in 13 battles and has not been defeated once!!!
@artemiselene AND THE SPARTANS FOUGHT AND CONQUERED MANY GREEK CITY-STATES. DOES THAT NOT MAKE THEM GREEK? AND THE ATHENIANS RAPED AND PILLAGED MANY OTHER GREEK CITY STATES. DOES THAT MAKE THEM NOT GREEK? AND IN CHINA THE QIN DYNASTY KING UNITED ALL OF CHINA BY CONQUERING IT, GIVING RISE TO MODERN CHINA. ALEXANDER MORE OR LESS FAILED TO UNITE US LOL. WE ARE ANARCHISTS.
@machiavellick Man what the hell? Macedonians were a clearly Greek phylum, a Greek race, a Greek tribe. Period. From antiquity to this day. In culture, in history, in language, in religion, in every way. You clowns didn't exist up until a hundred years ago. Not only as a state. Not even as a nation. The modern Greek state is new, but the nation is one of the most ancient in the world's history. Shut up.
@mac4life2 Lol. Mother Teresa like the rest of your dumb race, nation and country is a fraud. She went and stole money from Haiti, and used it to build suffering homes in India, where she left people who were sick to die, because she believed suffering was cleansing their soul. She was an evil woman. Over 10 million dollars she squandered back in the day. Oh, and plus, she was Albanian... from your area, but Albanian... oops.
@machiavellick Dude you are nuts. It's not just the language all of Greece, including the Macedonian kingdom, shared and had in common. It's the culture, the religion, the race, the belief, the ideology, everything. Moreover, everyone who was of Macedonian descent, just like the Spartans, or the Athenians, or the Korinthians, all claimed to have been Greek and identified as part of the same ethnic group. There's countless quotes and ancient sources. Read a book.
@machiavellick Secondly, you the slavs, who didn't exist as a nation, up until about 600 years ago, and your state up until the Balkan wars came into being only until recently in the last few decades after the collapse of Yogoslavia as FYRO(M), you the clowns are claiming the Greek Macedonian land to the south of your country, which has been Greek land for over 2,500 years, occupied by Greeks, whether conquered or not, (even the Turkish conquerors called Macedonia Greek in maps and in writing).
Biggest bullcrap on the planet, you stupid lieing Gayreeks, keep twisting and fringing the Macedonian history, the only thing you will guys get in the long run is a bunch of laughs from us and the US, FYI the world too, 99% of the world hates your lieing stories. Except for Bulagria, they lie too. But its 2 enemy countries versus the whole world that supports Macedonia, its ok Greece, Turk supports Macedonia and hates you... xD No wonder NO ONE in the Balkans, cept Bulg. likes you. Go home..
We don't need to lie and twist about anything, all you need to do is open a book not written by Stefov and the rest of the pathetic propagandist your government pays to spread your lies!!!
The whole world is laughing at you and your constant whining...and it's no surprise turkey supports you...after all, masters have to throw their dogs a bone now and then to maintain their loyalty...Back to your cage monkey!!!
@mac4life2 Bulgaria does not like us. It's just that they know you are Bulgarians. Come on... don't lie.. you understand Bulgarians when they speak.. they understand you.. oh wait.. it's the same language.. hmm why? Because you were a Bulgarian principate LOL. That's why. You even have the same culture. Same customs. Even the same saints as Bulgarians. Now you are trying not to be Bulgarians. Because you have to forge an identity. A fake one. You create a sense of otherness... yeah ok..
The skopjans are deadmeat, in my littlebrothers school and all swedihs scools tare teaching about macedonian and they all are saying that macedonians are greeks like the spartans,arkadians, and much more tribes
Monkey you have no history, you have no culture, you have no country and you have no life outside your pathetic propaganda spreading industry. Alexander is Macedonian, you on the other hand are not. 100 yrs ago Macedonia was under Turkish occupation, open a real history book for heaven's sake!!!Macedonias existed and still exist only in Greece and are off cource Greek. And one day you will crumble and disolve into the nothingness you came from!!!
u idiot, did u just read the facts from the letter? how illiterate are u? the scholars have risen to 430. of course the author will not delete ur comment because it shows how stupid ur idiotic mind is. MACEDONIA IS A PART OF GREECE!!! I AM FROM THESSALONIKI, I AM GREEK, I AM MACEDONIAN!!! GO FUCK YOUR SELF YOU SLAVIC ASSHOLE, YOUR LANGUAGE WAS CREATED 1000 YEARS AGO, YOU PAIONIAN DICK!! BE SATISFIED WITH WHAT YOU HAD VARDASKAN CAUSE IF U MESS WITH US U WILL LOSE EVERYTHING.....
U idiots can send all kinds of letters to everyone and still u will not get anything. U also can bomb Skopje but u will always know that Alexander the Great is Macedonian and also the north Greece is one part of United Macedonia as it was 100 years ago. U also can stick your head in your fat ass and still know the we THE MACEDONIANS existed and still exist. And one day WE WILL REUNITE trust me on that.
aha! one more idiot! i didnt send it, we didnt send it. professors sent it. they have studied history unlike u. dont question them vardaskan. alexander the great WAS macedonian. however i dont want to displease u but macedonia is a part of greek. ur country is not called macedonia, u can call it republic of skopje, or vardarska, or republic of stupid assholes, i dont care, but u slavic dicks have nothing to do with macedonia. alexander conquered u as he conquered egypt and india... wake up..
@Xarilaos200Kostumia Lol the Greek riot police is double their army. Only Hrusi Avgi would be enough actually. Lol. Wait. We shouldn't even go to war. How about we tell 65% of the businesses operating in their country, which are Greek, and are feeding their dumb bodies and brains with energy to spread such bullshit, to just close up and come back to Greece for a tax free home return? See how much you will beg us to let you change your name to Vardarska, the real name, so we feed you again.
no body support this fasistic staling of history even Barak Obama who is the boss in USA.Your position is so down so you can pray for changing of our name for salvation in 2013.But Macedonia has alternative to sign economic deals with USA so we dont want to go in eu just for changing of the name.MAKEDONIJA NA MAKEDONCITE
Don't post shit on my vids monkey, everybody believes us and they know that you are nothing but liers thhieves and the puppets of the american policy in the Balkans. You did not exist until 1945 and you will cease to exist by 2013!!!
please stop, i cannot read any bullshit... the only things i can give u are my balls.. do u want them? its a great chance to take them now cause i just finished fucking ur mother...
That is the Rosetta stone, a decree written during the Hellenistic era in Alexandria in three languages: Hieroglyphics,(official Egyptian), Hieratic, (common Egyptian) and Greek. It is Greek script and not Cyrillic, even a moron knows the difference, especially since the Cyrillic alphabet was not created until the 9th century AD. You can find it at the British museum. I can actually read and understand it, even though my "ancient Greek" is a bit rusty, can you?
I know im not so stypid but i wanted to say that in that time there were only 3 or 4 alphabets and that alphabets were ancient greek, hieroglyphics, hieratic and i think hebrey and latin. and all of the countries were writing on that alphabets. than the slavians in the 9th century cyrill and methodi wanted to create slavian language and alphabets and i know that becouse im from macedonia xD and i know that the ancient macedonia and this macedonia are diffrent. xD
@atanaskostovski You were never ancient. You don't get it. You have created a semantics confusion. They are playing with your mind in your country. They are evil. Your government is funded by the US to create a semantics confusion on the name of Makedonia, by confusion your country's name (which you stole completely, as you created your identity), with the Greek province to the south of your borders, called Makedonia.
the alphabet at 5:25 is greek. its the upper case characters of the greek alphabet, the one u mention first. it is ΑΒΓΔΕΖΗΘΙΚΛΜΞΟΠΡΣΤΥΦΧΨΩ. all the letters at 5:25 are capital, thats how they wrote, compare it. the other alphabet u mention is cyrillic, it was created by cyrill and methodios in the 9th-10th century A.D. personally i can read and understand what is written at 5:25. this proves that macedonians, like spartans and athenians wrote in greek. they were greek.
@aquax1908 Cyrill and Methodius used the Greek alphabet as a basis to create the slavic alphabet. LOL. Cyrill and methodius were two Greek Byzantine monks. Opps. But the slavomonkeydonians didn't even know that, did they?
@MKDarko What the fuck is this 2012 or 2013 every clown fuck keeps saying? Is that the day we rape your mothers? I don't get it. What's this date everyone keeps posting? What the treaties come up? So what? They will be renewed. And you will die.
i think that video is one of the best i have seen. If that does not wake those box-heads up i don't know what will.
I personally think those gypsies should not even include the word Macedonia in their names, or even better they can fuck off our land and can all go live Bulgaria where they came from.
@lefzn000 Obama is just a puppet, unfortunately, like every American president since Kennedy, they have been controlled by secret orders, and by big multinational corporations with giant business interests, particularly, oil, pharmaceuticals, construction, weapons, and of course banking. Lastly, american imperial policy is in favor of destabilizing the Balkans, thereby creating puppet states, so they can suck all the oil in the Aegean easily and for little cost. Also there is osmium & irridium
@lefzn000 unfortunately, There are also geopolitical and strategic interests in giving this puppet state FYRO(M) access to the Aegean. That's why they want to split up our country. Obama cannot do any difference. He is just a puppet unfortunately. And he is muslim. He is a fraud. He lied to the American people. He hasn't even shown them a real birth certificate. he doesn't care about Greece or anyone. Just the interests of the banks and businesses he serves. Sorry.
Πρέπει να τους πάρουμε με το μέρος μας και αυτούς, ώστε να τελειώνει και αυτό το ζήτημα.Αν και κάτι μου λέει το αντίθετο ,μιας και όπου το άδικο βασιλεύει υπάρχουν αισχρές σκοπιμότητες πάντα.
it is fyrom against the whole educated world..please nmacedonia is greek...from scadninavia
christianotelo 1 month ago in playlist Macedonia
You're LUCKY that Greece does not have a free-hand in FYROM (yet). Greece could send in a small army of real Macedonians to crush this tiny, pathetic, insignificant 'nation'. Hows your glorious navy going? Oh wait, you weaklings don't have one. Your own leaders say that you "have no connection to ancient Macedonia." The entire world is laughing at you. Greece is the #1 investor in your country. Ironic. One day Greece will control the region, and you will be sorry. Renegade Bulgarians!
nikoz78 3 months ago
GOOD JOB I HOPE EVERYONE WILL KNOW THE TRUTH GREETINGS FROM GREEK MACEDONIA !! ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΊΑ ΞΑΚΟΥΣΤΗ
perisdp 8 months ago
@thalilmacogangsta1 The whole problem here is a semantics confusion. Let's clarify:When the Greeks say Makedonia,they speak of the Greek prefecture/province called Makedonia to the north of Greece within their borders. Greece never denied their own province's existence,which has been called Makedonia from antiquity till now, nor the existence of your state.Your state, was previously Yugoslavia. Your area was called Vardarska up until 15 years ago.
WE DENY YOUR USE OF THE NAME AND OUR HISTORY
DimitrisMPapadakis 9 months ago
@thalilmacogangsta1 We never claimed that your FYRO(M) state has been a part of Greece. The south part of your country, From lake Ohrid until our border was part of Greek territory until antiquity and was also annexed by Greece from Bulgaria after the Balkan wars. Austria and Hungary made Bulgaria, Turkey and Greece sign a treaty for these areas (Treaty of Lausanne) and we gave up that north part including the south of Albania for the North Aegean islands.
DimitrisMPapadakis 9 months ago
@thalilmacogangsta1 You sound illeterate, uneducated and brainwashed. Read some books outside your country. Look at the maps of Europe from the time states existed till now. Not only your area was called Vardarska and was part of the Bulgarian Principate, but the area in Northern Greece which is today's Greek northern province called Makedonia, had always been there. Suddenly you have a slavic union called Yogoslavia, and you people came along. Now suddenly you claim you are Macedonians. LOL
DimitrisMPapadakis 9 months ago
@thalilmacogangsta1 And what the fuck does Greece almost becoming communist have to do with anything? That's so irrelevant. So what if the west intervened to make us more americanized? LOL I'm glad, mother russia didn't have her influence over Greece and Americans helped out fight the communist fucks in my country.
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The area to the south of your country was called Paionia in antiquity, it was a Greek speaking area. It was conquered and colonised by Alexander and Philip.
DimitrisMPapadakis 9 months ago
@thalilmacogangsta1 The Greeks were always different tribes. Spartans called themselves Spartans. but they were Greek. Korinthians called themselves Korinthians, but they were Greek. Athenians called themselves Athenians, but they all, just like the others, identified themselves as Greek.Go to the island of Samothrake. Alexander and his father built a monument and carved their name for the Kawirian mysteries as a votive to the goddess victory.He participated in the Olympic Games:ONLY GREEKS DID
DimitrisMPapadakis 9 months ago
@thalilmacogangsta1 And Greece never denied the existence of your nation, or your state. WE DENY THE USE OF A NAME. A NAME INTIMATELY RELATED TO OUR CIVILIZATION. NOT YOURS. What you are doing is a simple trick. You are causing confusion between the name of your country, so that it gives you claims to our northern province and access to the sea. GO READ A BOOK. SERIOUSLY. SCHOLARLY, ACADEMIC BOOKS. AND READ THE SOURCES. ANCIENT SOURCES.
DimitrisMPapadakis 9 months ago
@MacedoniaUpdates tHE TERM "AEGEAN MACEDONIA" WAS MANUFACTURED. THE WORD "AEGEAN" EXISTED SINCE BEFORE HOMER DESIGNATING THE AREA COVERED BY THE BODY OF WATER IN TODAY'S AEGEAN.
DimitrisMPapadakis 9 months ago
@artemiselene The matter here is that even if Makedonians were Greek or weren't, YOU STILL HAVE NO CONNECTION TO THEM. IT'S NOT UP FOR GRABS. LOL YOU ARE SLAVIC. YOUR LANGUAGE CAME ABOUT 1100 YEARS AFTER ALEXANDER. FYRO(M) DIDN'T EVEN EXIST AS A NATION OR A STATE UNTIL A FEW DECADES AGO. ARE YOU TRYING TO RETAIN COHESION IN A STATE OF DISPARATE ETHNIC ORIGIN BY FORGING HISTORY AND A STOLEN NATIONAL HERO CLAIMING AS YOUR OWN?
DimitrisMPapadakis 9 months ago
@artemiselene AND DEMOSTHENES TRIED TO CONVINCE THEM THEY WERE NOT GREEK FOR CLEARLY POLITICAL REASONS. AND THERE IS ANOTHER INSTANCE WERE THE ATHENIANS WERE TRYING TO DEBATE WHETHER SPARTANS WERE GREEK. LOL. THEY DID THE SAME BULLSHIT LIKE WE DO TODAY. BUT THEY ALL UNITED AGAINST THE COMMON ENEMY.
DimitrisMPapadakis 9 months ago
@artemiselene AND THE SPARTANS FOUGHT AND CONQUERED MANY GREEK CITY-STATES. DOES THAT NOT MAKE THEM GREEK? AND THE ATHENIANS RAPED AND PILLAGED MANY OTHER GREEK CITY STATES. DOES THAT MAKE THEM NOT GREEK? AND IN CHINA THE QIN DYNASTY KING UNITED ALL OF CHINA BY CONQUERING IT, GIVING RISE TO MODERN CHINA. ALEXANDER MORE OR LESS FAILED TO UNITE US LOL. WE ARE ANARCHISTS.
DimitrisMPapadakis 9 months ago
@machiavellick Macedonians were a clearly Greek phylum, a Greek race, a Greek tribe. Period. From antiquity to this day. In culture, in history, in language, in religion, in every way. You clowns didn't exist up until a hundred years ago. Not only as a state. Not even as a nation. The modern Greek state is new, but the nation is one of the most ancient in the world's history.
DimitrisMPapadakis 9 months ago
@mac4life2 Lol. Mother Teresa like the rest of your dumb race, nation and country is a fraud. She went and stole money from Haiti, and used it to build suffering homes in India, where she left people who were sick to die, because she believed suffering was cleansing their soul. She was an evil woman. Over 10 million dollars she squandered back in the day. Oh, and plus, she was Albanian... from your area, but Albanian... oops.
DimitrisMPapadakis 9 months ago
@machiavellick Dude you are nuts. It's not just the language all of Greece, including the Macedonian kingdom, shared and in common that makes Makedonians Greeks. It's the culture, the religion, the race, the belief, the ideology, heroes,everything. Moreover, everyone who was of Macedonian descent, just like the Spartans, or the Athenians, or the Korinthians, all claimed to have been Greek and identified as part of the same ethnic group. There's countless quotes and ancient sources. Read a book.
DimitrisMPapadakis 9 months ago
@machiavellick Secondly, you the slavs, who didn't exist as a nation, up until about 600 years ago, and your state up until the Balkan wars came into being only until recently in the last few decades after the collapse of Yogoslavia as FYRO(M), you the clowns are claiming the Greek Macedonian land to the south of your country, which has been Greek land for over 2,500 years, occupied by Greeks, whether conquered or not, (even the Turkish conquerors called Macedonia Greek in maps and in writing).
DimitrisMPapadakis 9 months ago
@mac4life2 Bulgaria does not like us. They only agree with us because they know you're Bulgarians.Come on.Don't lie.U understand Bulgarians when they speak.. they understand you.. oh wait.. it's the same language.. hmm why? Because you were a Bulgarian principate LOL. That's why. You even have the same culture. Same customs. Even the same saints as Bulgarians. Now you are trying not to be Bulgarians. Because you have to forge an identity. A fake one. You create a sense of otherness... yeah ok..
DimitrisMPapadakis 9 months ago
@Xarilaos200Kostumia Lol the Greek riot police is double FYRO(M)'s army. Only Hrusi Avgi would be enough actually. Lol. Wait. We shouldn't even go to war. How about we tell 65% of the businesses operating in their country, which are Greek, and are feeding their dumb bodies and brains with energy to spread such bullshit, to just close up and come back to Greece for a tax free home return? See how much you will beg us to let you change your name to Vardarska, the real name, so we feed you again.
DimitrisMPapadakis 9 months ago
@atanaskostovski You were never ancient. You don't get it. You have created a semantics confusion. They are playing with your mind in your country. They are evil. Your government is funded by the US to create a semantics confusion on the name of Makedonia, by confusion your country's name (which you stole completely, as you created your identity), with the Greek province to the south of your borders, called Makedonia.
DimitrisMPapadakis 9 months ago
@aquax1908 Cyrill and Methodius used the Greek alphabet as a basis to create the slavic alphabet. LOL. Cyrill and methodius were two Greek Byzantine monks. Opps. But the slavomonkeydonians didn't even know that, did they?
DimitrisMPapadakis 9 months ago
@MKDarko What the heck is this 2012 or 2013 every clown fuck keeps saying? Is that the day we rape your mothers? I don't get it. What's this date everyone keeps posting? What the treaties come up? So what? They will be renewed.
DimitrisMPapadakis 9 months ago
@Yanitsaros Paionians spoke Greek and had become hellenised since before the time of Alexander. Vardarksans are slavic. Period. Not even Paionians because they do not come from them. They are don that ancient. Paionians do not exist today.
DimitrisMPapadakis 9 months ago
@lefzn000 Obama is just a puppet, unfortunately, like every American president since Kennedy, they have been controlled by secret orders, and by big multinational corporations with giant business interests, particularly, oil, pharmaceuticals, construction, weapons, and of course banking. Lastly, american imperial policy is in favor of destabilizing the Balkans, thereby creating puppet states, so they can suck all the oil in the Aegean easily and for little cost. Also there is osmium & irridium
DimitrisMPapadakis 9 months ago
@lefzn000 unfortunately, There are also geopolitical and strategic interests in giving this puppet state FYRO(M) access to the Aegean. That's why they want to split up our country. Obama cannot do any difference. He is just a puppet unfortunately. And he is muslim. He is a fraud. He lied to the American people. He hasn't even shown them a real birth certificate. he doesn't care about Greece or anyone. Just the interests of the banks and businesses he serves. Sorry.
DimitrisMPapadakis 9 months ago
@Yanitsaros Paionians spoke Greek and had become hellenised since before the time of Alexander. Vardarksans are slavic. Period. Not even Paionians because they do not come from them. They are don that ancient. Paionians do not exist today.
DimitrisMPapadakis 9 months ago
Artemiselene, I think you should give credit to the original site and add a link to the letter.
tststherapy 1 year ago 2
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tststherapy 1 year ago
Wait a second. If i'm right (which I am) greece initially denied Macedonia's existence, and now all of the sudden, as soon Macedonians start to spread their voice and the truth, you greeks now claim that we DO exist, but we have always been a part of greece (notice how I didn't use a capital letter) If you greeks are going to make propaganda, at least make it remotely believable. You are a joke. And I would also like to state that greece almost became communist, but the west intervened.
thalilmacogangsta1 1 year ago
@thalilmacogangsta1
@thalilmacogangsta1
"You are right"? Lol!!! Greece didn't deny anyone's existence, only the use of a name that is not yours to use. "Spread their voice and the truth"? Loool...monkey, the only thing that you ever spread was your ignorance and idiocy loaded with a whole lot of bull shit...
artemiselene 1 year ago 11
I did notice how you didn't use a capital letter...I supose breathing and typing at the same time must put a lot of strain in your motor functions, I don't even need to ask about your intellectual capability, your post says it all!!! We do not need to resort to propaganda like you monkeys, we have the entire academic community in our side, all you have is Stefov and piss poor "scientific studies"..
artemiselene 1 year ago 2
As for who's the joke, well...anyone who has taken a second to listen to your rumblings can tell who is the world's clown...
You were a communist state since before you were invented, what's your point...oh, wait, you are a monkeydonkeyan, therefore you never have a point, you just rave and throw fits like a monkey!!!
artemiselene 1 year ago
Now take your banana and go home monkey, I have better things to do than trying to teach a monkey history...if reading Stefov hasn't burned you two remaining brain cells, watch he vid and see what world renoun historians have to say about the real Macedonia!!!
artemiselene 1 year ago
@artemiselene MATE THAT VIDEO WAS THE BEST CONGRATS YOU MADE MY EYES WATER LONG LIVE GREECE!!!!!
tisbales 1 year ago 2
@thalilmacogangsta1 In Greece the ending of our surnames are saying our roots.
For example -akis is from Crete, -akos from Manu and -idis from Makedonia! How you mean we denied? I am sorry but the propaganda they feed you is really really bad! You came 1000 years after Makedonians! Even your name I am sure is Slavian!
Kuopioboy 1 year ago
@thalilmacogangsta1 Man what the fuck are you saying? The whole problem here is a semantics confusion. Let's clarify. When the Greeks speak about Makedonia, they speak of the Greek prefecture/province called Makedonia to the north of Greece within its borders. Greece never denied their own province's existence, which has been called Makedonia from antiquity till now. Your state, was previously Yugoslavia. Your area was called Vardarska up until 15 years ago. WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU SAYING?
DimitrisMPapadakis 9 months ago
@thalilmacogangsta1 We never claimed that your FYRO(M) state has been a part of Greece. The south part of your country, From lake Ohrid until our border was part of Greek territory until antiquity and was also annexed by Greece from Bulgaria after the Balkan wars. Austria and Hungary made Bulgaria, Turkey and Greece sign a treaty for these areas (Treaty of Lausanne) and we gave up that north part including the south of Albania for the North Aegean islands.
DimitrisMPapadakis 9 months ago
@thalilmacogangsta1 You illeterate uneducated brainwashed fuck. Read some books outside your country. Look at the maps of Europe from the time states existed till now. Not only your area was called Vardarska and was part of the Bulgarian Principate, but The area in Northern Greece which is today's Greek northern province called Makedonia, had always been there. Suddenly you have a slavic union called Yogoslavia, and you fucks came along. Now suddenly you claim you are Macedonians. LOL
DimitrisMPapadakis 9 months ago
@thalilmacogangsta1 And what the fuck does Greece almost becoming communist have to do with anything? That's so irrelevant. So what if the west intervened to make us more americanized? LOL I'm glad, mother russia didn't have her influence over Greece and Americans helped out fight the communist fucks in my country.
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The area to the south of your country was called Paionia in antiquity, it was a Greek speaking area. It was conquered and colonised by Alexander and Philip.
DimitrisMPapadakis 9 months ago
@thalilmacogangsta1 The Greeks were always different tribes. Spartans called themselves Spartans. but they were Greek. Korinthians called themselves Korinthians, but they were Greek. Athenians called themselves Athenians, but they all, just like the others, identified themselves as Greek. Go to the island of Samothrake. Alexander and his father built a monument and carved their name for the Kawirian mysteries as a votive to the goddess victory.He participated in the Olympic Games:ONLY GREEKS DID
DimitrisMPapadakis 9 months ago
@thalilmacogangsta1 And Greece never denied the existence of your nation, or your state. WE DENY THE USE OF A NAME. A NAME INTIMATELY RELATED TO OUR CIVILIZATION. NOT YOURS. What you are doing is a simple trick. You are causing confusion between the name of your country, so that it gives you claims to our northern province and access to the sea. GO READ A BOOK. SERIOUSLY. SCHOLARLY, ACADEMIC BOOKS. AND READ THE SOURCES. ANCIENT SOURCES.
DimitrisMPapadakis 9 months ago
@thalilmacogangsta1 you are joking with us if you believe that you are Macedonian.you are slav,you speak the slavic language.ancients Macedonians write and speak Greek,not slavic.your bulgaro-albanian country has nothing to do with macedonians.get over it and build your own history.
georgekoul 2 months ago
Now more then 320 WORLD RENOWN SCHOLARS are signed the same letter !!!
FYROM is a communist joke !
VETO! VETO! VETO!
DSetekh 1 year ago 2
AFTER THIS VIDEO ALL THE UNEDUCATED SLAVBULGARIANS SHOULD JUST SHUT THE FUCK UP !!!
JIMDP25 1 year ago
Can you fyromians translate or understand ancient macedonian foundings? even a 7 year old Greek can do that. We are ready to enslave your country, kill your childs and piss in your dead bodies! You dont even know where are you coming from AlbanianBulgarioTurkish bastards! Make one move and you're fucking dead you uncivilized bastards
petns88 1 year ago
@petns88 why do you still call them fyromians when their country isnt called FYROM anymore?
xxLiLdAni3Lxx 1 year ago
can you explain me why to 1913 macedonia wasn't greeks...
The capital of macedonia will be solun the 2nd revolution is coming...2012
DK220 1 year ago
For more info see - The Treaty of Bucharest - 10 August 1913 it is all clear.
PaunBTMakedonski 1 year ago
grece own part of Macedonia since 10 August 1913 , nothing else
Macedonia was never grek .
Macedonia concored grece at Chaeronea , greece belonged to Macedonia not the other way around
PaunBTMakedonski 1 year ago
@PaunBTMakedonski
You close your eyes and ears to every shred of evidence that proves that Macedonia was and always will be Greece, and jump like the monkeys that you are to every ludicrous propaganda your goverment and their lackies throw at you! The battle of Chaeronea was a battle between Athenians and Thebans against Macedonians and Thessalians, a civil war between rival city states and their allies, and in 1913 we annexed some more Greek lands...I know it hurts to lose, but that's life!!!
artemiselene 1 year ago
@artemiselene how have macedonians ever been greek? had yous not overtaken the part you did in 1913 greeks wouldnt be able to use their current reasoning to say macedonians are greeks. its just your luck that yous overtook it and now stick to this idea that since you have a part of your country called macedonia that macedonians are greek.
xxLiLdAni3Lxx 1 year ago
@xxLiLdAni3Lxx
"how have macedonians ever been greek?"...Well, there is a very simple answer to that question...Watch this video were over 350 scholars prove that Macedonia and the Macedonians were and always be Greek, and read a book not written by Riste Stefov and his band of idiots and you will be unpleasantly surprised->
artemiselene 1 year ago
->We liberated Macedonia, Epirus and Thrace from the Ottomans in 1913 and defeated the Bulgarians twice when the tried to gain access to Aegean.
All these lands were historically, culturally and demografically Greek and there was an exchange of population between Greece, Turkey, Serbia and Bulgaria after the Balkan wars were over.
We honoured the treaties signed during that time and never demanded the return of Monastiri (Bitola) and its surroundings.
And btw, FYROM is still called FYROM!!!
artemiselene 1 year ago
@artemiselene
Hahahha
You must be a kid to say stupid shit like this.
We all now who is the thief and rasist.
Greece is full of Macedonians , Turks , Gypsies ,Vlah ,Bulgars and many more only you greks are the ones that deny any other than greks.
That tells you how stupid you ALL are not just you .
grece own part of Macedonia since 10 August 1913 , nothing else
PaunBTMakedonski 1 year ago
@PaunBTMakedonski
Yes, we all know who is racist and a thief...YOU....hahahahahaaa!!!
You are also legendary for your ignorance and your stupidity and your complete inability to comprehend and accept the God honest truth that Macedonia and Macedonians were and always will be Greek!!! History, culture and language is on our side...all you have is pathetic and ridiculus "studies"
artemiselene 1 year ago
-> that the entire scientific community took one look at them and fell down laughing...hahahaha!!! You are right, Greece is full of Macedonians...Greek-Macedonians, the only type of Macedonians that exist in the world!!! 40% of your population is albanian, 10% is turkish, Shutka is the gypsy capital of Europe, and the rest of your population is comprised of Bulgarians, Serbs and Greeks (Vlachs)->
artemiselene 1 year ago
->you have more mosques than churches, half of your population hit their foreheads on the ground and stick their arses up on the air and pray to allah, you have more gypsies than any other European country and you speak bulgarian with a Serbian accent, who do you think you are fooling little gypsy tatar-mongol monkey?->
artemiselene 1 year ago
-> Your entire existence is based on a lie, you are nothing, you have nothing, so you try to steal everything from us...I repeat, and maby this time your tiny little mind will understand this simple truth...Greece liberated Macedonia from the Ottomans and the Bulgarians who were trying to gain access to the Aegean...we beat you bulgarians back twice....that is life, live with it!!!
artemiselene 1 year ago
@PaunBTMakedonski >> Fyrom >> Krste Misirkov, 1903, "our fathers and grandfathers and great-grandfathers have always been called Bulgarians"
'We are not related to the northern Greeks who produced leaders like Philip and Alexander the Great. We are a Slav people and our language is closely related to Bulgarian.' 'there is some confusion about the identity of the people of this country"
--said FYROM´s Ambassador to Canada Gyordan Veselinov on 24 February 1999.
SMYRNAfreedom 1 year ago
@PaunBTMakedonski >> Fyrom >> Krste Misirkov, 1903, "our fathers and grandfathers and great-grandfathers have always been called Bulgarians"
'We are not related to the northern Greeks who produced leaders like Philip and Alexander the Great. We are a Slav people and our language is closely related to Bulgarian.' 'there is some confusion about the identity of the people of this country"
--said FYROM´s Ambassador to Canada Gyordan Veselinov on 24 February 1999.
SMYRNAfreedom 1 year ago
@PaunBTMakedonski Gratz ...I can clearly understand from your poor english that in your country you can't have a fully right education so i am gona teach you few things..Historically macedonia was a greek tribe and there are many facts that can proove this...Also there are many other millions prooving your origin...
kwstas1995 1 year ago
@PaunBTMakedonski YOU ARE AN UNEDUCATED SLAVBULGARIAN NOTHING ELSE !!!!
JIMDP25 1 year ago
@PaunBTMakedonski
You dont see the sun while walking in day and follow him at night.... you want history to know you as thieve ? 10-20 years from now the world history will say that a country who was Vardaska Bonovina was trying to steal land, falsify history and brainwash generations from 1945 untill 2020....poor people....you dont accept your history...the history of Vardaska....
EllinonEnosis 1 year ago
Those scholars are stupid as you are. Nobody spoke Gayreek in that time only ancient Greek.
nitroflesh 2 years ago
Says the monkey who only reads Riste Stefov and MacDonalds news...Loooool!!!
Wake up retard, they are scholars from Ivy league Universities, not third grade goat herders from Scopje University!!!
Every ancient text you read and every stone you uncover in your flea infested turkish - american protectorate is in Greek, even the tablet decorating your "parliament" building...try to translate that first, and them come and tell me that is not Greek...
artemiselene 2 years ago
...and btw, ancient Macedonians spoke and wrote in the Greek Doric dialect, long before the introduction of the koini (common) Greek dialect!!!
artemiselene 2 years ago
@artemiselene In post Bush America, truth has no meaning except that it exists to be subverted and retold to prove what we want it to prove.
Think that GHW Bush being a CIA spook has anything to do with that?
Nah! That is just anti-Americanism put out by the liberal media; they are probably influenced by the ghosts of the millions of innocent people the Bushes are responsible for killing.
RPenta 1 year ago
@nitroflesh
you are a bulgarian immitation and a History stealer fyromian faggot
2005defender 2 years ago
@nitroflesh ...what an ignorant backward-monkey u r to think that a language can
survive in suspended-animation for 3000 years with out some changes...r u gay?
ratzP 1 year ago
nice video the truth
twostrokeforlife 2 years ago
find the term Aegean Macedonia in ANY ancient historical document and ill give you a nickel. The Term Aegean was manufactured by the communist Yugoslavs to make claims against Greece. The whole thing is a Historical joke. and so is FYROM.
MacedoniaUpdates 2 years ago 3
@MacedoniaUpdates tHE TERM "AEGEAN MACEDONIA" WAS MANUFACTURED. THE WORD "AEGEAN" EXISTED SINCE BEFORE HOMER DESIGNATING THE AREA COVERED BY THE BODY OF WATER IN TODAY'S AEGEAN.
DimitrisMPapadakis 9 months ago
this is all bullshit and i think someone should show the documents of old aegean macedonia how greeks did against the macedonians
that part that has totally brainwashed you was ours and it has always been a part of us but you took it just after the macedonian independence day from the ottomans
3 countries against one
macedonia vs bulgaria,serbia and greece come on is that fair
stop bullshitting and give us our land back scumbags
dennood 2 years ago
aegean was never your land dennood. aegean was always greek. what happened is that some of your fellow skopians lived in aegean, just like some albanians where living in Epirus. During the Greek resistance against the Nazis, some partizans of the right-wing side called "ELAS" killed them or sent them back to Yugoslavia among with many Greek communists. They did the same in Epirus where they sent the albanians back home. Unfair? Maybe. But aegean was never your land.
grigoris90 2 years ago 3
it has always been ours we built solun,and there are still macedonian people that has not moved from there birth places
there are proofs of the old macedonia in nowadays istanbul and no one has the right to touch it
you took the part from us and so did the bulgarians but they took pirin
what you are doing now is making up propagandic bullshit about history and you cant change the history the truth will come back
what you have done to the world is to change history and propaganda bullshit
dennood 2 years ago
@dennood
you country is a lie .... made by people of darkness
if they were people good they would have told all the truth for macedonia
read Daniel ,chapter 8 profecy
about the greek king that will destoy perses
all ASIA calls the greeks IUNAN
.... why >?
marioorange 2 years ago 2
@dennood the lands belong to macedonias
you are slavs !!!
you dont speak macedonian
you are not macedonian tribe
the most possible is to be mixed
but in your hurts you are not macedonias
because macedonias spoke ancient greek
and had greek heart
gligorov your president of fyrom or vardaska said it very good .........
marioorange 2 years ago 3
@dennood
you are so blind .... go visit the places that are in ancient macedonia
............................everywhere you see tombs with greek names , greek amphitheaters with greek letters
etc
marioorange 2 years ago 2
@marioorange r all fucking greek fakes, the ancient macedonia isnt ancient because it was to 1913 united. 2012 is comig the end to greeks is coming the thrue will win
DK220 1 year ago
Σου έλεγα να τους κάνουμε ευθανασία αλλά εσύ δεν άκουγες, η ευαισθησία σου φταίει για όλα. :P
gia na doume an tha "katsei" me ta greeklish telika...
kostas67reth 2 years ago
Επιτέλους, τα κατάφερα!
/watch?v=svfQuR8yvrU
Yannisastra 2 years ago
artemiselene,you and your Gayreek lieing government can go spreading the BS lies about how Alexander the Great was not Macedonian and Phillip II was not Macedonians. The whole world knows Macedonia is the homeland of Alexander the Great, Mother Teresa, Pandev, and bunch of other good Macedonians. Keep lieing Gayreeks, one of these days the whole world will laugh at you guys and question you guys for twisting the original history of Macedonia. No wonder Gayreek lie, they have a bad history.
mac4life2 2 years ago
Please answer the questions ,
machiavellick 2 years ago
Now you fear punishment and beg for your lives, so I will let you free, if not for any other reason so that you can see the difference between a GREEK KING and a barbarian tyrant, so do not expect to suffer any harm from me. A king does not kill messengers.(ALEXANDER THE GREAT...As quoted in the Historia Alexandri Magni of Pseudo-Kallisthenes, 1.37.9-13)
artemiselene 2 years ago
Plutarch, The Life of Alexander:
"It is agreed on by all hands, that ON THE FATHER'S SIDE, ALEXANDER DESCENDED FROM HERCULES by Karanus, and
FROM ACHILLES BY NEOPTOLEMOS ON THE MOTHERS' SIDE......"
artemiselene 2 years ago
Isocrates ρesponce to everything Demosthenes, Philips greatest enemy, said about him:
«I intend to advise you to concentrate in your project of
UNITING THE GREEKS and then CAMPAIGN AGAINST THE BARBARIANS» (Philipikoi 15 -16).
«YOU ALONE OUT OF ALL THE GREEKS have been worthy enough to rule another nation, NOT OF OUR RACE»
(Philipikoi, 108)
artemiselene 2 years ago
Demostenes Clear says in Macedonia a place where barbarians live.
And calling him a Greek is a metafore for caling him civilized.
About Alexandar i agree that his mother come form a tribe that has bilived that they are sucsesors of Achilis but Filip is Macedonian and that is a Fact, how ever they are comming from Macedonia and they fell as Macedoians,
machiavellick 2 years ago
Still no answer to the questions?
Blease be short.
machiavellick 2 years ago
I am answering to you with facts straight from the sources with citations, and not with propaganda like you are doing...
Demosthenes tried to convince the Athenians that the Macedonians were not Greeks, but failed...
Alexander always proclaimed his Greek ancestry wherever he went!!!
Philip was a descendant of Hercules and Perseus and hia ancestors came from Argos
artemiselene 2 years ago
So you are saying that Macedonia is what?
And what kind of propaganda did i made?
You are quting me fro greek books that propaganda is there mission.
machiavellick 2 years ago
I am saying that Macedonia was and always will be Greek!!!
Propaganda is making a false statement and backing it with an invalid source..just like you are doing!!!
So according to you the ancient sources are propaganda...did the ancients foresee the name dispute and prepare propaganda to use against you 2300 years later...lol!!!
Everything I said I backed it up, all you have to do is go to the original ancient sources, your are just pulling "facts" straight out of MacDonalds news!!!
artemiselene 2 years ago
Well if Herodot, Homer, Demosten , Tukidit are strait from MacDonalds then you have a problem not me.
How ever i did not have the attention to fight and ensolt i just wanted to say my opinion, because to me it is a fact that Macedonia and Greece are two independet countries.
machiavellick 2 years ago
Τώρα καταλαβαίνω που εξαφανίζεσαι... έχεις τους προσωπικούς σου τρελούς! :)
kostas67reth 2 years ago
Εμ τι? Μόνο εσύ θα έχεις αυτό τι προνόμιο? Πες μου αν έχω άδικο ότι τα άτομα αυτά χρησιμοποιούν τη βλακεία τους σαν όπλο?
artemiselene 2 years ago
Να τη χαίρονται... δεν μπορεί να είναι τόσο βλάκες, νομίζω ότι τους έχουν μάθει να μη σκέφτονται, αυτό είναι εξάλλου το υπόστρωμα κάθε προπαγάνδας.
kostas67reth 2 years ago
Μα βρε Κωστή μου, είναι δυνατόν να μην έχουν καθόλου κριτική και ανεξάρτητη σκέψη? Ούτε κοινή λογική?..
artemiselene 2 years ago
Τους λες να η αρχαία πηγή, τους δίνεις την πηγή και το αρχαίο κείμενο και τους λες "δες το κα μόνος σου" και σου απαντάνε ότι είναι προπαγάνδα ενώ σε παραπέμπουν στα ίδια άτομα που ανέφερες χωρίς όμως τις αρχαίες πηγές...έλεος..κανέις δεν είναι τόσο ηλίθιος!!!
artemiselene 2 years ago
@artemiselene AND HE TRIED TO CONVINCE THEM THEY WERE NTO GREEK FOR CLEARLY POLITICAL REASONS. AND THERE IS ANOTHER INSTANCE WERE THE ATHENIANS WERE TRYING TO DEBATE WHETEHR SPARTANS WERE GREEK. LOL. THEY DID THE SAME BULLSHIT LIKE WE DO TODAY. BUT THEY ALL UNITED AGAINST THE COMMON ENEMY.
DimitrisMPapadakis 9 months ago
"And now is justly the barbarian praised by the Athenians for capturing Hellenes? As for Megas Alexandros WHO IS A HELLENE and captured Hellenes, not only did he not imprison his opponents, but enlisted them and made them his allies instead od enemies..."
(2.4.5; Oration of Demosthenes)
artemiselene 2 years ago
Oh my god,
Answer the damn questions do not quote me.
So in Egypt Aleksandar The Great or else known as Aleksandar the Macedon was pronounsed for Egypt king , faraon , God, does that make him an Egyptian?
He is not a Hellen, may be affter coming in Grece hi infiltradet for the reccongniton that hi is not a barbarian, and about not enslaving that is because he make his army out of them. He concured perssia to and he didn not enslave them.
machiavellick 2 years ago
But you yourself quoted Demosthenes to me...don't throw a hysterical hissy fit now that the answer does not suit you!!!
In Egypt Alexander...do not slavinise his name, it is pathetic and disrespecful...was proclaimed a Pharaoh, and the priests called him son of Zeus!!!
He spread Hellenism everywhere he went..all sources state that he was Greek and he him self proclamed his Greekness in many different occasions!!!
Macedonians were always concidered Greek!!!
artemiselene 2 years ago
I totally agree with you here, that he spreed Hellenizam because that was the cradle of Culture, and that is fact also, i agree that he was pronounsed as a son fo zeus because that was the known religion witch comes from greek, and that is a fact also, but you are apsolutlly wrong when you say that Greece and Macedonia are the same.
They are not and not only demosten says that you can see that Herodot does it also, even Homer in his Ilijada says about it.
machiavellick 2 years ago
Demosthenes, Herodotus, and Homer said that Macedonia was not Greek...oh really?
Show me the ancient Greek quotes then!!!
Where are your sources?
Where in the Illiad did Homer say that Macedonians were not Greeks..when at his time(800 B.C) Macedonia was not even a state yet...
How can Herodotus provide Alexander's entire Greek genealogical tree and then say that he and the rest of the Macedonians are not Greek!!!
Give me the ancient sources!!!
artemiselene 2 years ago
Well i do not have all day, prohapse if you've reed them you would know.
Cya.
machiavellick 2 years ago
Demosthenes after failng to convince that Macedonians weren't Hellenes, in order to up-rise the Athenians said:
No king of the Hellenes had ever conquered Egypt with exception of Alexander, and that he did withiut war..."
Even though Xerxes had a huge host with him, he was a barbarian and was defeted by the prudence of the Hellenes; whereas Alexander the Hellene(Greek) has already engaged in 13 battles and has not been defeated once!!!
[2.3.4 - 5; Oration of Demosthenes]
artemiselene 2 years ago
@artemiselene AND THE SPARTANS FOUGHT AND CONQUERED MANY GREEK CITY-STATES. DOES THAT NOT MAKE THEM GREEK? AND THE ATHENIANS RAPED AND PILLAGED MANY OTHER GREEK CITY STATES. DOES THAT MAKE THEM NOT GREEK? AND IN CHINA THE QIN DYNASTY KING UNITED ALL OF CHINA BY CONQUERING IT, GIVING RISE TO MODERN CHINA. ALEXANDER MORE OR LESS FAILED TO UNITE US LOL. WE ARE ANARCHISTS.
DimitrisMPapadakis 9 months ago
@machiavellick Man what the hell? Macedonians were a clearly Greek phylum, a Greek race, a Greek tribe. Period. From antiquity to this day. In culture, in history, in language, in religion, in every way. You clowns didn't exist up until a hundred years ago. Not only as a state. Not even as a nation. The modern Greek state is new, but the nation is one of the most ancient in the world's history. Shut up.
DimitrisMPapadakis 9 months ago
@mac4life2 Lol. Mother Teresa like the rest of your dumb race, nation and country is a fraud. She went and stole money from Haiti, and used it to build suffering homes in India, where she left people who were sick to die, because she believed suffering was cleansing their soul. She was an evil woman. Over 10 million dollars she squandered back in the day. Oh, and plus, she was Albanian... from your area, but Albanian... oops.
DimitrisMPapadakis 9 months ago
Did Alexandar the great called him self Macedonian?
Did his father Filip the second called him self Macedonian.
Did Demosten the famous anti-Macedonian called the Greek people to rise up against Macedonia a place from which a man should not buy even a slave?
Did Filip the second concurred Greece?
Did Alexandar spreed his kingdom as Alexandria?
machiavellick 2 years ago
Did ever in Greek history Greece possessed Macedonian land?
If all of today's world speaks English, does that make that the all world belong to England.
Even in America the English language is official but still America is different sovereign state.
So you Greeks are such hypocrites as a people witch is unrecognizable.
What would it be if Jews claimed that Hitler is their Hero?!?!
machiavellick 2 years ago
@machiavellick Dude you are nuts. It's not just the language all of Greece, including the Macedonian kingdom, shared and had in common. It's the culture, the religion, the race, the belief, the ideology, everything. Moreover, everyone who was of Macedonian descent, just like the Spartans, or the Athenians, or the Korinthians, all claimed to have been Greek and identified as part of the same ethnic group. There's countless quotes and ancient sources. Read a book.
DimitrisMPapadakis 9 months ago
@machiavellick Secondly, you the slavs, who didn't exist as a nation, up until about 600 years ago, and your state up until the Balkan wars came into being only until recently in the last few decades after the collapse of Yogoslavia as FYRO(M), you the clowns are claiming the Greek Macedonian land to the south of your country, which has been Greek land for over 2,500 years, occupied by Greeks, whether conquered or not, (even the Turkish conquerors called Macedonia Greek in maps and in writing).
DimitrisMPapadakis 9 months ago
Once again I prescribe to you the same kind of medication I just suggested to your friend macDonalds4life
artemiselene 2 years ago
Please answer the questions ,
machiavellick 2 years ago
Biggest bullcrap on the planet, you stupid lieing Gayreeks, keep twisting and fringing the Macedonian history, the only thing you will guys get in the long run is a bunch of laughs from us and the US, FYI the world too, 99% of the world hates your lieing stories. Except for Bulagria, they lie too. But its 2 enemy countries versus the whole world that supports Macedonia, its ok Greece, Turk supports Macedonia and hates you... xD No wonder NO ONE in the Balkans, cept Bulg. likes you. Go home..
mac4life2 2 years ago
We don't need to lie and twist about anything, all you need to do is open a book not written by Stefov and the rest of the pathetic propagandist your government pays to spread your lies!!!
The whole world is laughing at you and your constant whining...and it's no surprise turkey supports you...after all, masters have to throw their dogs a bone now and then to maintain their loyalty...Back to your cage monkey!!!
artemiselene 2 years ago
@mac4life2 Bulgaria does not like us. It's just that they know you are Bulgarians. Come on... don't lie.. you understand Bulgarians when they speak.. they understand you.. oh wait.. it's the same language.. hmm why? Because you were a Bulgarian principate LOL. That's why. You even have the same culture. Same customs. Even the same saints as Bulgarians. Now you are trying not to be Bulgarians. Because you have to forge an identity. A fake one. You create a sense of otherness... yeah ok..
DimitrisMPapadakis 9 months ago
the number has increased to 353!!
ANTONIS1986LOK 2 years ago
bravo re paidia polu wraio video..
xaroyklhs 2 years ago
maybe alexander the great was called shasha velikia don't you think my respectable friends of FYROM
vaggakis 2 years ago
The skopjans are deadmeat, in my littlebrothers school and all swedihs scools tare teaching about macedonian and they all are saying that macedonians are greeks like the spartans,arkadians, and much more tribes
uluckymf 2 years ago
Oh and I forgot to say FUCK U GREECE.
P.S. Dear author,
U can delete my comment but u can't delete me like the history u are trying to and die trying!!
Thanx,
PROUD MACEDONIAN
BUCOMKD 2 years ago
Monkey you have no history, you have no culture, you have no country and you have no life outside your pathetic propaganda spreading industry. Alexander is Macedonian, you on the other hand are not. 100 yrs ago Macedonia was under Turkish occupation, open a real history book for heaven's sake!!!Macedonias existed and still exist only in Greece and are off cource Greek. And one day you will crumble and disolve into the nothingness you came from!!!
P.S: FUCK YOU MONKEYDONKEYA
artemiselene 2 years ago
TRUST ME ON THAT!!!
I will not delete your comments, so everyone can see your pathetic whining and empty threats!!!
Thanx,
PROUD GREEK AND MORE MACEDONIAN IN A SINGLE STRAND OF MY HAIR THAN YOUE ENTIRE PATHETIC LYING AND THIEVING NATION!!!
artemiselene 2 years ago
u idiot, did u just read the facts from the letter? how illiterate are u? the scholars have risen to 430. of course the author will not delete ur comment because it shows how stupid ur idiotic mind is. MACEDONIA IS A PART OF GREECE!!! I AM FROM THESSALONIKI, I AM GREEK, I AM MACEDONIAN!!! GO FUCK YOUR SELF YOU SLAVIC ASSHOLE, YOUR LANGUAGE WAS CREATED 1000 YEARS AGO, YOU PAIONIAN DICK!! BE SATISFIED WITH WHAT YOU HAD VARDASKAN CAUSE IF U MESS WITH US U WILL LOSE EVERYTHING.....
aquax1908 2 years ago
hey skopjan dick: look at 5:25.. does it look like ur language? iit seems very greek to me....
aquax1908 2 years ago
U idiots can send all kinds of letters to everyone and still u will not get anything. U also can bomb Skopje but u will always know that Alexander the Great is Macedonian and also the north Greece is one part of United Macedonia as it was 100 years ago. U also can stick your head in your fat ass and still know the we THE MACEDONIANS existed and still exist. And one day WE WILL REUNITE trust me on that.
BUCOMKD 2 years ago
aha! one more idiot! i didnt send it, we didnt send it. professors sent it. they have studied history unlike u. dont question them vardaskan. alexander the great WAS macedonian. however i dont want to displease u but macedonia is a part of greek. ur country is not called macedonia, u can call it republic of skopje, or vardarska, or republic of stupid assholes, i dont care, but u slavic dicks have nothing to do with macedonia. alexander conquered u as he conquered egypt and india... wake up..
aquax1908 2 years ago 4
I wouldn't send a letter to Obama or any other idiot who happened to be president of any country.
I would send a few planes to bomb skopje instead,and in two hours the Mickymousedonians would have change their fucking mind.
Trust me.
Xarilaos200Kostumia 2 years ago 3
Excellent idea!!!
artemiselene 2 years ago
@Xarilaos200Kostumia Lol the Greek riot police is double their army. Only Hrusi Avgi would be enough actually. Lol. Wait. We shouldn't even go to war. How about we tell 65% of the businesses operating in their country, which are Greek, and are feeding their dumb bodies and brains with energy to spread such bullshit, to just close up and come back to Greece for a tax free home return? See how much you will beg us to let you change your name to Vardarska, the real name, so we feed you again.
DimitrisMPapadakis 9 months ago
no body support this fasistic staling of history even Barak Obama who is the boss in USA.Your position is so down so you can pray for changing of our name for salvation in 2013.But Macedonia has alternative to sign economic deals with USA so we dont want to go in eu just for changing of the name.MAKEDONIJA NA MAKEDONCITE
MKDarko 2 years ago
Don't post shit on my vids monkey, everybody believes us and they know that you are nothing but liers thhieves and the puppets of the american policy in the Balkans. You did not exist until 1945 and you will cease to exist by 2013!!!
artemiselene 2 years ago
please stop, i cannot read any bullshit... the only things i can give u are my balls.. do u want them? its a great chance to take them now cause i just finished fucking ur mother...
aquax1908 2 years ago
for the comment up from this at 5:25
first that this αβψδεφγηιξκλμνοπρ;σερηωβζμσφηασθγ looks more than абвгдѓежзѕијклљмнњопрстќуфхцчњш ?
and second from where do we know that that's the original? maybe it's just changed? ': |
atanaskostovski 2 years ago
That is the Rosetta stone, a decree written during the Hellenistic era in Alexandria in three languages: Hieroglyphics,(official Egyptian), Hieratic, (common Egyptian) and Greek. It is Greek script and not Cyrillic, even a moron knows the difference, especially since the Cyrillic alphabet was not created until the 9th century AD. You can find it at the British museum. I can actually read and understand it, even though my "ancient Greek" is a bit rusty, can you?
artemiselene 2 years ago
I know im not so stypid but i wanted to say that in that time there were only 3 or 4 alphabets and that alphabets were ancient greek, hieroglyphics, hieratic and i think hebrey and latin. and all of the countries were writing on that alphabets. than the slavians in the 9th century cyrill and methodi wanted to create slavian language and alphabets and i know that becouse im from macedonia xD and i know that the ancient macedonia and this macedonia are diffrent. xD
atanaskostovski 2 years ago
@atanaskostovski You were never ancient. You don't get it. You have created a semantics confusion. They are playing with your mind in your country. They are evil. Your government is funded by the US to create a semantics confusion on the name of Makedonia, by confusion your country's name (which you stole completely, as you created your identity), with the Greek province to the south of your borders, called Makedonia.
DimitrisMPapadakis 9 months ago
the alphabet at 5:25 is greek. its the upper case characters of the greek alphabet, the one u mention first. it is ΑΒΓΔΕΖΗΘΙΚΛΜΞΟΠΡΣΤΥΦΧΨΩ. all the letters at 5:25 are capital, thats how they wrote, compare it. the other alphabet u mention is cyrillic, it was created by cyrill and methodios in the 9th-10th century A.D. personally i can read and understand what is written at 5:25. this proves that macedonians, like spartans and athenians wrote in greek. they were greek.
aquax1908 2 years ago
@aquax1908 Cyrill and Methodius used the Greek alphabet as a basis to create the slavic alphabet. LOL. Cyrill and methodius were two Greek Byzantine monks. Opps. But the slavomonkeydonians didn't even know that, did they?
DimitrisMPapadakis 9 months ago
@MKDarko What the fuck is this 2012 or 2013 every clown fuck keeps saying? Is that the day we rape your mothers? I don't get it. What's this date everyone keeps posting? What the treaties come up? So what? They will be renewed. And you will die.
DimitrisMPapadakis 9 months ago
nice video, thank you for posting it.
21MENI 2 years ago
Correction: 340
Macedonia1913 2 years ago
great upload and i think its grown to 335... 5* cheers
MrDameech 2 years ago 5
Thanx!!! :-))
artemiselene 2 years ago
i think that video is one of the best i have seen. If that does not wake those box-heads up i don't know what will.
I personally think those gypsies should not even include the word Macedonia in their names, or even better they can fuck off our land and can all go live Bulgaria where they came from.
5 stars.
07AFC 2 years ago 4
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Macedonia1913 2 years ago
323 INTERNATIONAL SCHOLARS SO FAR...
Macedonia1913 2 years ago 4
Copy and Google this:
"Letter to President Barack Obama" Macedonia international scholars
313 INTERNATIONAL SCHOLARS SO FAR!
Macedonia1913 2 years ago 3
Ο αριθμος ανεβαινει συνεχως. Σημερα 18 Ιουνιου, 2009 εφτασε στους 319 !
Αντε και να χιλιάσουν !!!
tetrafarmakos 2 years ago 3
Exactly...And thanx!!!
artemiselene 2 years ago
Obama 0 - Greece 1
Leylaqq 2 years ago 3
Nope...
FYROM 0 - Greece 1
Obama is not Bush...
qwertdfsf7 2 years ago 4
i really hope that mate.I really hope that Obama is not Bush.
lefzn000 2 years ago 4
@lefzn000 Obama is just a puppet, unfortunately, like every American president since Kennedy, they have been controlled by secret orders, and by big multinational corporations with giant business interests, particularly, oil, pharmaceuticals, construction, weapons, and of course banking. Lastly, american imperial policy is in favor of destabilizing the Balkans, thereby creating puppet states, so they can suck all the oil in the Aegean easily and for little cost. Also there is osmium & irridium
DimitrisMPapadakis 9 months ago
@lefzn000 unfortunately, There are also geopolitical and strategic interests in giving this puppet state FYRO(M) access to the Aegean. That's why they want to split up our country. Obama cannot do any difference. He is just a puppet unfortunately. And he is muslim. He is a fraud. He lied to the American people. He hasn't even shown them a real birth certificate. he doesn't care about Greece or anyone. Just the interests of the banks and businesses he serves. Sorry.
DimitrisMPapadakis 9 months ago
bravo Artemis...poly kalo!
as mi ksexname oti o ompamas edwse gi kai ydwr stous toyrkalades! Mia ap ta idia fysika.
ArisHellenicForce 2 years ago 5
Οι Αμερικανοι εxουν συμφεροντα στην Ασια για αυτο
qwertdfsf7 2 years ago 3
Πρέπει να τους πάρουμε με το μέρος μας και αυτούς, ώστε να τελειώνει και αυτό το ζήτημα.Αν και κάτι μου λέει το αντίθετο ,μιας και όπου το άδικο βασιλεύει υπάρχουν αισχρές σκοπιμότητες πάντα.
NorthenLight1 2 years ago 5