I've been fascinated with the Earhart mystery for many years and have done much reading on it. There is one episode in particular about a Marshall Islands resident named Bilimon Amaran, who worked as a medic for the Japanese in 1937. He remembered treating a wounded man resembling Fred Noonan around that time on a Japanese Navy ship and also saw a woman and damaged plane on that ship. This is one of the more credible witness accounts.
she crashed landing but they wer near howland i think thats how u spelled it then she planned this so she flew in a new plane n with to the brumda triangle
But i have some idea or theory about amelia earhart maybe she might be landed at the ocean or in hawaii islands and we all know that in hawaii island their are gyres that might drift you to some other place or island so she might been drifted into bermuda triangle so we all know that no one escapes bermuda triangle so she might been traped in their so long ago.
But i have some idea or theory about amelia earhart maybe se might be landed at the ocean or in hawaii islands and we all know that in hawaii island their are gyres that might drift you to some other place or island so she might been drifted into bermuda triangle so we all know that no one escapes bermuda triangle so she might been traped in their so long ago.
it ust doesnt make sense her altimeter went out(tells you how high in the air) there is so many theories it just bothers me tha we cant find out what happened
I've seen pretty convincing evidence that she was captured and killed by the japs. What incentive would they have to cover that up? We've already had Pearl Harbor.
No, no, no you have it all wrong. Amelia's wasn't captured. In fact she called last week. She say's she fine and living in Hawaii now. She bought a cabin and takes care of a hamster. I'm going to see her next week. I'll tell her you said hello.
I think its obvious that she crashed into the water. If she would of landed on an island, im sure she would of sent out an instant message telling them she landed somewhere. The same way the titanic went down, the same thing here. But this is a waaaay smaller plane the a ship and Its just something that is never gonna be found...but its there stitting at the bottom of the ocean right now as your reading this.
you can read the text of her transmissions online. just search for "amelia earhart transmissions". one thing is clear, neither noonan or earhart understood how radios function in relation to getting a bearing. their transmissions were too short to get a minimum. they also ripped out morse code hardware, stupidly, during the journey. A good effort but poorly executed.
they were picked up by the japs but this country is too afraid to open a can of worms with the japs asking to open up an investigation into the so called earhart trip , it actually was a spy mission fronted by the american goverment as a reconascance mission to spot the whereabouts of the japaneese fleet! The united states has covered up this story for years !
well maybe the plane crashed in countries near the equator like the Philippines,like the investigaters said Japan,Indonesia,Malaysia,Brunei and Taiwan and Amelia was in an uknown island near one of the countries near the equator and died there
she returned, the crooked government took care of her and made sure she came bk, she looked out for them and they returned the favor. Dont be fooled people.
I believe that she died on Saipan because my friend's grandmother said during the Japanese time she witness the burial of two pilots in aviator suits who were american spys.
I've never understood why this is such a 'great mystery'. If you read the story, she ran out of gas and crashed. The area in the pacific would have been like looking for a needle in a haystack. She made a couple of bad decisions in a time before GPS ect, and got lost. Interesting story for sure, and I must say, an incredible woman for her time, but not really a great mystery.
Thank you for your reply. But let me throw in another. Lockheed said the plane would float? That may be if she managed to gently land in the water. If out of gas, there's no tell how she struck the water. Could have clipped a wing an cartwheeled smashing the plane to pieces. Secondly, Lockheed claims to a plane floating indefinetly are in part, manuafacturers claims. A vehicle designed to fly, especially at the time, is not designed to reisist water in a choppy ocean. Float time is questionable
The Electra was one of the first modern aircraft: built like a truck, all electronic servos, and no hydraulics. There's a solid strut running out into the wings that is two feet high in the passenger cabin -- had to step over it.
Also Earhart said she was flying at 1000 feet. Not hard to bring down a dead-stick plane from 1,000 feet. The 1200 gallon tanks were 12 tanks, so hard to break them all. Then there was the three man yellow life raft. Someone should have survived.
Well thats what the public believed for many years but strange evidence occurred where they found stamps in the Solomon islands with a crashed lockheed electra in the background, or found womens shoes and a pocketbook on Nikumaroro Island, and the SOS calls from her area that came in days after she went missing. Or the fact that WWII vets reported seeing Amelia's papers in a Japanise safe, plus the irene bolum theory where a woman sued a book that claimed she was Amelia. The judge said
The judge said the thousands and thousands of dollars was Irene Bolums IF she did a finger print test to prove she was not Amelia Earhart and she declined. She wouldn't do it. When she died her ashes were bured in an unmarked grave by the US govt. Amelia couldn've been a spy. There are SO many theorys but I must admit the crash and sank theory is the most logical. If the impact didn't kill them, they drowned, if they didn't drown they were stranded on a island. WHO KNOWS
@BarneyFlart Gotta agree with you, Barney. It's fun for people to imagine she landed on another island, or was picked up by the Japanese, or faked her disappearance and lived for years afterward under a new identity. But it seems to me the most likely story, by far, is that the plane, and the remains of Earhart and Noonan are on the bottom of the Pacific.
@BarneyFlart But the fact remains that nobody really knows what happened to her as they never found her nor Fred nor her plane. Thus - all we have is conjecture. And...thus it's quite a mystery indeed:)
@BarneyFlart The 'dip and dunk' theory is pretty sound -- a good friend (Elgen Long) did great research and a book on it. Still, I've interviewed the Lockheed man who, along with Lockheed, stated that the plane could float indefinitely. So, where's Earhart?
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YES !I was Amelia in my past life. Lots of facts support this.During my life I also saw many dreams regarding this.
Was Amelia ment to die according to some secret plan ?On the front page of the website you will find the reason why Amelia dissapered.Astonishing secrets are revealed. Through the my past life experiences, Amelia is able to describe the last minutes before her death, why she was lost, the exact location of the airplaine and also why it is incredibly difficult to find her.
Let's not be snide. How many Earhart books have you written? ANYONE that can add to the Earhart Saga is welcome, buy all avid researchers, if in good taste.
Mr. Westfall, what is the hitch that keeps you from outright accepting the Irene Bolam who Joe Gervais met and photographed in 1965 as the former Amelia Earhart? Maybe I can help you overcome it. To some, including myself it is right as rain. What 'problem(s)' do you see with it? Just curious.
Rollin was a good friend; I published his book, Amelia Earhart Survived. Tad is a fellow researcher and he's been to my home; I defended him in public at Atchison.
Two things however: 1) Irene Bolam is a much heavier woman than Earhart ever was. 2) Irene Bolam was to well schooled in Earhart and "knew more from prop to tail than any other pilot." -- Without any hard evidence, I'd say that's not Earhart.
Ah, this is where you're amiss. If you're referring to Col. Reineck I understand. The other fellow's name is 'Tod' though, not 'Tad.' Check irene-amelia website. Demo in L.A. last year displayed amazing head to toe congruence of the 'Irene' who was only identified that way from 1945-1982. Showed photos of her from the late 1940s, early 1950s at AE's exact height & weight, same handwriting too. She gained weight by the 60s, by 70' slimmer again. No doubt was the former Earhart. Are you Masonic?
Hi Mr. Westfall. To my knowledge, no evidence exists that hard-claimed Amelia as a spy or as a decoy. Nothing I posted in my last message remotely suggested that. Curious though, how can you prove she was a decoy? That sounds interesting to me. At least, you seem certain enough to so dogmatically state it as you did(?) What I do feel very certain about, is Earhart did not die on July 2, 1937 as history left so many to believe. Rather, she lived for a considerable time after that date.
True. Earhart stated to Mark Walker (Navy Reserve Officer and Pan Am Copilot): "This isn't my idea, someone high up in the government asked me to do it." If indeed Earhart was not a spy, then for what reason would Roosevelt have gone against congress in spending $4 million to search for her?
I agree: I do not believe Earhart died on July 2 -- but perhaps with in a month or two as interviews suggest. That or we go to the Irene Bolam theory.
Pertaining to the 'survival' theory, where in 1965 Admiral Nimitz did admit it was known and documented in Washington how Earhart ended up existing under the auspice of Japan after she was reported 'missing,' the question became: Would Japan, who in the 1930s regaled Amelia Earhart as a hero (Babe Ruth too) have allowed Amelia to die either by sickness or execution? OR, could another co-endorsed (U.S., Japan) solution have been achieved? The latter holds weight pre and post-WWII era wise.
Amelia Earhart was not a spy, she was a decoy. The Japanese would not have allowed her to die. But if the Japanese forced down any aircraft in the Marshall islands -- it wasn't Earharts, and had their been a US spy mission, it wasn't Amelia. If she too had been picked up by the Japanese...
You know what, she shouldn't have been doing that. It was a stupid idea and she'd regret it. I garentere all of you she's alive but, her plane was shot down. I wouldn't be surprised if that wats the case.
She'd be one hundred eleven if alive, and I do not believe she was shot down, but splashed into the sea after running out of fuel. Beyond that, no one is sure. Dumb idea? Probably so.
YouTube does not let sites post here but the 'Amelia' website listed in the upper left 'neilnils' channel description box (under the piano player photo) has recently been up to 4000 hits a day. Btw, National Geo and the Smithsonian are not allowed to support any Earhart mystery solving theories. (non realized information.)
As a former navigator, one of the places on earth I would dread attempting an accurate fix would be at an equatorial latitude, east bound, toward the international dateline at sunrise. Too many potential arithmetic errors to be made combined with a complete lack of precise celestial bodies to observe. Noonan had the deck stacked against him.
No question that navigation was tough -- yet modifications to the radio & antennas in Miami reduced their effective range from 2000 miles to 200. The Itasca stated her response was an S5 which means she was within 50 miles. Then it cut off. Flying at 1000 feet means she could see about 45 miles -- and the island is an average 9 feet high. Hard to find in an ocean. Best Always, Doug
Jim Donohue believed the spy mission was British in his book, The Earhart Disappearance. I'm not stating anything about a spy -- just that Earhart was not. Rollin was a close friend and Gervais' author Klaas still is. Swindel has been to my home -- I support them as far as their information takes them.
If you look at the website dedicated to Joe Gervais and Rollin Reineck, comments about serving as a 'decoy' are expounded upon. But all remains uncertain. A fair suggestion regarding provability where true answers remain unknown; suggest 'decoy' rather than dogmatically state it as fact. Nothing has been proven there, although it is plausible, the point being private citizen individuals (I take it you are one) lack the ability to state the decoy claim as 'factual.'
Pertaining to the 'survival' theory, where in 1965 Admiral Nimitz did admit it was known and documented in Washington how Earhart ended up existing under the auspice of Japan after she was reported 'missing,' the question became: Would Japan, who in the 1930s regaled Amelia Earhart as a hero (Babe Ruth too) have allowed Amelia to die either by sickness or execution? OR, could another co-endorsed (U.S., Japan) solution have been achieved for her continued existence? The latter holds weight.
Actually, I read something pretty recently that said that a group of historians might have found her grave at the sight of an old Japanese prison. If this is true, than that would prove the theory that the Japanese shot her down.
I am aware of the group. Saipan was a Japanese stronghold, and would have been a logical place to take someone, and many islanders claim she was there. Yet, this has happened before - and at least three islands have been referenced as a place for a white woman flyer was seen. Garapan Prison on Saipan has been identified by many as the place the 'white woman flyer' was held. Still, shooting her down, vs having her die at an island prison - are two entirely different things.
She most likely did. "Low on gas" was one of her last transmissions, and from the strength of the signal she was within 50 miles of her target -- as determined by the Chief Radioman of the ship bringing her in.
Nearest landfall from there is 300 miles away. That says a water splashdown.
From then however, no one is sure what happened. The US Navy and Coast Guard searched 260,000 sq mi for 16 days, but found no plane, no wreckage, and no survivors.
Actually, Bush (GHW) didn't fly until WWII. The youngest flying Lt. in the Navy's fleet, he flew TBM Avangers in 58 combat missions against the Japanese military and won the DFC. He was a little late for Earhart.
Well, then, 70 years ago, there was no radar, no current charts, and no plane that could fly more than 3000 miles. That and she was a woman in a man's world. Tough call though -- it was to be her last flight -- turned out to be too true.
OK, I'm a WASP but I don't know how typical I am. All my minority friends (black, hispanic, native american, asian) say I'm a little different -- although they don't say how.
speilberg is also obsessed with aliens, maybe poor amelia was pulled into a spacecraft and cloned a million times over and a planet is populated with brave flying women.
Well, Earhart did show up on a Star Trek a few years ago. Hey if Steven Spielberg wants to do the film of my book on Earhart, he can put anything in it he wants. He left Long Beach State about the time I got there -- we were required to see his film short Amblin before graduating. That image has always stayed with me.
I agree with the splash theory -- except if she was a good pilot or not, she was flying at only 1000 feet -- could have easily glided in for a water landing -- Lockheed stated the plane would float indefinately. And they had a life raft -- a big yellow one.
If Earhart's plane had crashed, there would have been some evidence: wreckage, oil slick, etc. The Navy flew 40 planes at a time, 1000 feet off the water, and combed 130,000 sq mi of sea. There was nothing, no plane, no wreckage, no survivors. Nothing.
I guess thats why we have a mystery on our hands, after 70 years I doubt we will ever have a solid answer. It's one of those things that will make us wonder. I see you live in orange, I live in aliso viejo. Nice chatten with ya. best always, joe
There are several books that claim Earhart was in Japanese hands, and Adm Nimitz (Commander of hte Pacific Fleet in WWII) stated "If you want Amelia Earhart, you have to go to Saipan." Once one of the Japanese Mandated Islands. Doesn't prove anything, but it could be in the right direction.
Orange has a square mile historic district, third largest in the US. 1,500 historic buildings, 80% on the national register - they make 5 films here each year.
Old Towne Orange is the Antique capitol of California -- 7 malls, 50 independants, over 800 dealers, plus restaurants, services, etc. There's a vinyl record store: Mr. C's has 1000s of 50s, 60s, & 70s. It's unimaginable.
Earhart never came here however, and there's still the question that if she lived the splash down, for how long and to where did she go? That will come in time.
I think we have to evaluate all the evidence -- If Earhart were picked up by the Japanese Military, what would make them keep quiet all these years? And if the US Govt knew; same question. If we can answer that, the puzzle will come together.
Too many godzilla movies have been made by japan to want to hide anything about amelia, if they had anything they would have never introduced mothra, they got nothing. very best always, joe
Joe: Not if they did something stupid, assuming Earhart fell into the hands of the Japanese Military in 1937 -- Japan went to war with China, five days after Earhart disappeared. This was the start of WWII in the Pacific.
The still won't acknowledge the 10M+ people killed by wartime genocide -- mostly Chinese. What's one more?
After the bombing of Pearl Harbor Dec 7, 1941 -- they bombed tiny Howland Dec 8, 1941, but why? There were four teenagers and a three tube radio. Was this a symbolic raid of the only stop Earhart never made?
Sounds like your sure about the japanese involvment of her dissapearence, it is a good theory. Something happend, she did not just vaporize aircraft and all.Best to you always,joe
Joe: Several books of many interviews talk about it. No one saw the aircraft since she left Lae New Guinea 20 hours before -- but they were in radio contact over the last 200 miles. "Her voice was loud and clear; sounded frantic on her last transmission. Then it cut off." -- Leo Bellarts, Chief Radioman on the Itasca. How does that happen?
yes, i agree something happend. It was very fast. Your choice seems to be japanese involvment, the more time that goes by the less chance of finding out anything.
We need to evaluate all the data that we have -- not pick through it as so many theorists do. The answer is there -- and although it may be more simple than we believe, it might be more tragic than we desire. How did her radio cut off? "The battery cage
was up in the belly of the plane. It
wasn't waterproof, so would short
out everything if the plane went into
the water -- especially the sea." Don Fowble, builder of Earhart's aircraft.
This just comes across as one of those things in life that will never be solved, even if the answer is right in our face we will never have any solid proof. best of the best always,joe
Joe: We'll never find a body -- and perhaps not the aircraft either, But there are those who still are yet to be interviewed, who have another piece of the puzzle. Howard Hanzlik was the UP reporter on the Itasca -- died just last year. We just have to get to those who are left.
Someone best roundup the remaining informants as the clock is ticking, like I said before the more time that goes by the less the chance for an answer. Best to you, joe
I've got at least two interviews coming up -- both are not from the Earhart Search, but there are at least two from the Navy search that are still living. Hopefully, we'll have enough.
All I write are books based upon unpublished first person accounts -- they always tell a different story, so I don't have an agenda when I start -- I just read it after I'm done to form an opinion, and say it's my opinion.
Thanks -- the guy who made the biplane film in 1937 is alive.
A lot of "factual" statements in this film are blatantly incorrect. The Navy pilots who flew over the Phoenix Islands didn't "find nothing" - they reported that there were signs of recent habitation on Gardner.
Most amazing is the one that **everyone agrees** that her Electra splashed down. TIGHAR's efforts over a couple of decades, and all the evidence they've collected, all for nothing?
One Navy Pilot made that statement, not the other four guys in the other two planes. The spotter who flew over Gardner says otherwise, worked for the FAA his entire life, and he's alive. I'll go with him.
All the evidence on Gardner points to the 60+ islanders that lived there for a quarter of a century from 1938 to 1963 AND the two dozen Coast Guardmen that lived there for three years during WWII operating a LORAN station.
Dear ParagonAgency, Your information is not up to date. 'Recommend you dig deeper to better enable yourself as a public informer about the so-called "Earhart disappearance." You have the lungs, but need work hitting the high notes. Just trying to help you my friend.
Neils: I am working on it. Will release the Earhart Search later this year -- just a compilation of restored LOC archive records and charts. Everyone should have that one.
I've worked with Elgen, Reineck, Klaas (author for Gervais), and have access to Gervais' files. I've been trying to interview people around the country who knew the people then, but they keep dying on me. As for the disappearance part -- I wrote what I found -- not much opinion in that one.
Well, thank you -- 30 years of practice -- gave a lecture just today (with a cold as well).
The point is there are seven men, from whom I took down their account: letters, diaries, interviews, memoirs; three of these guys are still alive. What they say changes history. One living man has the film of the biplanes in the Youtube. How grand to have 71 year old film of anything so remote, much less than the Earhart Search.
No, it just sounds like it. I have a nasal voice yet I've given thousands of lectures and not put anyone to sleep yet. Course that's with a live audience...
Well, there is the story of her having a child and supposedly there's a granddaughter living in the UK. Hard to prove at this point without DNA samples.
Would that be windsock? There was one on Howland Island when they were waiting for Earhart in July of 1937 -- I have a photograph of it taken by a man who was there just the one time on that day. Went to college with his daughter in the 1970s.
Well, we won't find a body. She'd be 111 this July. If buried on one of those coral islands, you won't find anything. Coral is like Drano, heck in ten years you wouldn't find teeth.
Lost is filmed on the north shore of Oahu -- I'm packed and ready to go. Actually Earhart was supposed to fly to Oahu before returning to the mainland. So does that mean there's hope?
If Lost is filmed north of Oahu don't you think Kate, Jack, Sawyer, and the gang would have found their way back to civilization along time ago (DUH!).
it is filmed in Oahu but you do make a great point, if their minutes away from civilization why the hell aren't they munchin on spam and eggs and going to nice hotels?
They can't find their way back because it's in their contract not to do so. That's my guess.
Earhart was reported within 50 miles of her target: Howland Island. Course it was actually 5 miles further east than her charts showed, and flying at 1000 feet makes the horizon 47 miles away. Missed it by that much.
Yes, of course. Deep sea search continues off Howland Island by Nauticos - at a $1M a shot; An Australian, David Billings is looking on East New Britian Island in New Guinea as we speak; and there continues to be a constant interest in Saipan -- a US Commenwealth.
Only we call it a search -- the hunt was used in reference to the Japanese Military.
Actually the US Navy ended the search July 18th, 1937 and she was declared dead the following year. But the rest of us still continue to look. That's why so many books, stories, movies (new one coming, plus a documentary,) and interest. We never give up, never leave anyone behind.
Neil: True, but the plane was traded out with the Daily Express in Miami, and it had the engines replaced in Bandoeng Indonesia. We don't know the actual configuration -- but I assume they were vented. Regardless, three days is enough to get that life raft up.
In 1938 the Hawaii Clipper disappeared in the Pacific, weeks later Pan Am located a huge oil slick.
The Navy flew tight patterns with 40 planes at a time, over 130,000 sq mi west of Howland -- they found nothing.
I think that's the main point. To "teach" Earhart "FACTS" Paragon Books, you need to know the material better. The original Lockheed Electra had non-vented gas tanks. Amelia's had huge VENTED gas tanks added to hold over a 1,000 gal. capacity, so they WOULD have FILLED with water. Plane SINKS 3-5 hours (See the OFFICIAL UPDATED Lockheed report.) Your "friend" Elgen Long, the late Goerner, TIGHAR, and the AE Society ALL up to speed there. Catch up with the pack my good man!
Perhaps, but Earhart had a dozen world flying records. Altitude, distance, solo, fixed & rotary wing. Anybody else do that? The only two people to repeat Earhart's world flight in the same 1937 Electra were women. Ann Pellegreno in 1967 and Linda Finch in 1997. Ann is a close friend.
Doesn't matter Earhart was a celebrity -- as were many pilots of the 20s and 30s.
Point is, American goes after it's own -- and we don't leave a man (or woman) behind.
Amelia wasn't all that great of a pilot. Her DFC was for **riding across the Atlantic as a passenger**. She had already crashed this aircraft once thru incompetence; and her plan of flying to Howland had serious flaws in it with no adequate plan B. Most of her fame was due to PR (her husband was a PR man.) But good luck on your book sales anyway...
Didn't say she was great -- just had many records -- got lost numerous times even on the way to Africa, with a navigator. If you knew the real plan B you'd laugh. Yeah and the same husband, declared her dead and married someone else (wife #3) there was a fourth too --
Thanks for the well wishes -- maybe I need a good PR man.
Dear 'Book Talk,' 'Video misses. The 'mystery' asks: Did Amelia survive beyond July 2nd, 1937? If so, for how long and where? There's Goerner's classic 1966 AE survived book, the 1970 Gervais 'identity switch' claim, and the TIGHAR Nikumororo claim. Or do you favor Elgen Long's crashed and sank scenario? Video ignores these famous investigators. & Lockheed's final word: engine weight & vented gas tanks, Electra sinks in a few hrs. Raft drift? Nah. Survival meant she went down on or near land.
Neil: Again, it's a 5 minute overview for a 260 page book. I'm friends with Elgen and Joe Klaas (Gervais author), and I published Reinecks' book.
Lockheed's quote: "Technicians familiar with Miss Earhart's plane believe, with its large tanks it can float almost indefinitely."
She had a life raft -- drift was 12 knots west.
Look in Amelia Earhart's Radio we showed Why she disappeared: her Radio. In The Hunt For Amelia Earhart we show how. The only question left is to where?
In "Finding Amelia", Ric Gillespie shows that Itasca's radio record is fragmentary. It was not a transcript, it was barely literate guys making notes, often hours later, and one of the radiomen was grabbing up miscellaneous papers figuring to sell them later. Official reports based on those logs were made to fit the Navy line. It's weird so see so many researchers doing close analysis of Itasca's radio logs and reports, basing heavy theories on them.
I went from the audio interview of the Itasca's Chief Radioman, Leo Bellarts. He said:"I actually did go outside and stand right out the radio shack and thought I would hear a motor any second. Her voice was loud and clear; sounded frantic on her last transmission."
Her radio had a 200 mile range, and an S5 strength, she's within 50 miles of the receiver on the Itasca.
I'll go with him and not put any weight in the logs.
I'm not here to entertain you, I'm here to teach you. Again, it's a 5 minute overview for a 260 page book, that has seven first-person accounts of the men who searched for her and built her airplane -- three of them are still living.
sorry if i pissed u off ParagonAgency! I didn't mean to be like those annoying people saying bad comments on here i just think the guy has one of those boring voices. But the information is very interesting! Thanks for posting the video to help people learn about her!!
You didn't. And I have a nasal voice, but I've given talks all over the world for 30 years -- it's hard to stop. Maybe I should get a celebrity to do my audio books.
Amelia Earhart is dead. Had she lived she'd be 111 on this July 24th. Each year we hold an Earhart Festival and Birthday at the Earhart Birthplace and Museum in Atchison, Kansas.
OK, I need to hear that. Again, it's a 5 minute overview for a 260 page book. So tell me what I could put up to make you interested in America's History?
Manfred von Richthofen, the Red Baron, was killed in 1918. Had over 80 'kills' to his credit; was shot though the heart but managed to land his plane before dieing.
The Japanese, or German Submariners took her to the secret sub base Atlantis to be a Tutor for the Children left there. Just like in the Jules Vernes Movie: " The Lost City of Atlantis"!
After Pearl Harbor on Dec 7, 1941, the Japanese military moved ships and planes to tiny Howland Island, some 1900 mile south west of Hawaii, to bomb the island -- the only stop Amelia Earhart never made. Days later, the Japanese Military returned with a submarine and shelled the island, destroying the buildings and the Amelia Earhart Lighthouse constructed the year after she disappeared.
That's the only Japanese submarine that got near Earhart and that was 4½ years later.
The thing to realize is when an important truth evades being known, people never stop looking for it. Earhart was a superb pilot and an incredibly gifted and beautiful person. Click on neilnils for a good, informative Earhart website address in the channel description box.
The informations looks interesting but you make it somewhat difficult to follow. Your voice isn't suited for commenting. I recommend hiring someone or having someone else do the commenting because your voice is too nasal.
Thanks for the input -- yes that's true. I give lectures thoroughout the country and have done so overseas as well. Stubbornly, the only one they want for my material is me. Again, it's a 5 minute overview for a 200 page book.
I've been fascinated with the Earhart mystery for many years and have done much reading on it. There is one episode in particular about a Marshall Islands resident named Bilimon Amaran, who worked as a medic for the Japanese in 1937. He remembered treating a wounded man resembling Fred Noonan around that time on a Japanese Navy ship and also saw a woman and damaged plane on that ship. This is one of the more credible witness accounts.
LastCommodore 6 months ago
they found here on Nikumaroro south west of howland
uhfnutbar1 8 months ago
Amelia Earhart + Amelia's Daughter The latest book by Philip L Moore, its things like this which made me write Amelia's Daughter!
authorphil 10 months ago
she crashed landing but they wer near howland i think thats how u spelled it then she planned this so she flew in a new plane n with to the brumda triangle
bimkhoa1123 11 months ago
But i have some idea or theory about amelia earhart maybe she might be landed at the ocean or in hawaii islands and we all know that in hawaii island their are gyres that might drift you to some other place or island so she might been drifted into bermuda triangle so we all know that no one escapes bermuda triangle so she might been traped in their so long ago.
amiel0123456 11 months ago
But i have some idea or theory about amelia earhart maybe se might be landed at the ocean or in hawaii islands and we all know that in hawaii island their are gyres that might drift you to some other place or island so she might been drifted into bermuda triangle so we all know that no one escapes bermuda triangle so she might been traped in their so long ago.
amiel0123456 11 months ago
weird i live 2 city's from oakland
jakey200000 1 year ago
it ust doesnt make sense her altimeter went out(tells you how high in the air) there is so many theories it just bothers me tha we cant find out what happened
puppylover8997 1 year ago
But...what KIND of shark? Great White? Tiger? Hammer Head? Oh - the mystery deepens. I need answers!
3investigators 1 year ago
She Flew straight up and went to heaven..
babejayoung 1 year ago
She Problely got eaten by a big great white shark and never seen again.
babejayoung 1 year ago
I've seen pretty convincing evidence that she was captured and killed by the japs. What incentive would they have to cover that up? We've already had Pearl Harbor.
tbursee 1 year ago
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No, no, no you have it all wrong. Amelia's wasn't captured. In fact she called last week. She say's she fine and living in Hawaii now. She bought a cabin and takes care of a hamster. I'm going to see her next week. I'll tell her you said hello.
chrissline77 1 year ago
I think its obvious that she crashed into the water. If she would of landed on an island, im sure she would of sent out an instant message telling them she landed somewhere. The same way the titanic went down, the same thing here. But this is a waaaay smaller plane the a ship and Its just something that is never gonna be found...but its there stitting at the bottom of the ocean right now as your reading this.
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(2) Why do girls want to fly high and become a pilot?
(3) How can flying benefit a females personal life?
(4) Through flying, what have female pilots proved and demonstrated to the world? or, What kind of social value(s) have female pilots brought up?
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XONATNALEX 1 year ago
@XONATNALEX .
Sorry, you need to improve your spelling. Even she is your ANCESTOR.
mags755 1 year ago
@mags755 Ok I don't care about spelling or any of that Crap! never got the hang to it!
XONATNALEX 1 year ago
This is frustrating.
mrceebees14 1 year ago
you can read the text of her transmissions online. just search for "amelia earhart transmissions". one thing is clear, neither noonan or earhart understood how radios function in relation to getting a bearing. their transmissions were too short to get a minimum. they also ripped out morse code hardware, stupidly, during the journey. A good effort but poorly executed.
quadbravo 1 year ago 4
they were picked up by the japs but this country is too afraid to open a can of worms with the japs asking to open up an investigation into the so called earhart trip , it actually was a spy mission fronted by the american goverment as a reconascance mission to spot the whereabouts of the japaneese fleet! The united states has covered up this story for years !
glenmann62 1 year ago
if she is alive she is 113 witch is possible theres an older person
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applesweeter 2 years ago
well maybe the plane crashed in countries near the equator like the Philippines,like the investigaters said Japan,Indonesia,Malaysia,Brunei and Taiwan and Amelia was in an uknown island near one of the countries near the equator and died there
23yannie32 2 years ago
she returned, the crooked government took care of her and made sure she came bk, she looked out for them and they returned the favor. Dont be fooled people.
MrDroberts24 2 years ago
b4 she dissapeard they need to fly 7,000 more mile only
twilightgirl277569 2 years ago
this is my topic story at language arts in my school today.
twilightgirl277569 2 years ago
I believe that she died on Saipan because my friend's grandmother said during the Japanese time she witness the burial of two pilots in aviator suits who were american spys.
jaeyar 2 years ago
People cling to conspiracy theorys like they cling to gravestones, they just don't
feel right without them I guess.
bugbyyy 2 years ago
I've never understood why this is such a 'great mystery'. If you read the story, she ran out of gas and crashed. The area in the pacific would have been like looking for a needle in a haystack. She made a couple of bad decisions in a time before GPS ect, and got lost. Interesting story for sure, and I must say, an incredible woman for her time, but not really a great mystery.
BarneyFlart 2 years ago
The mystery isn't about what happened. The mystery is where'd she go.
If we know (approx) where her plane went down in the water, we still don't know anything further.
Lockheed stated that the plane would float indefinately, but not be able to transmit.
At a 10 to 12 knot westerly drift, that floating aircraft would be making up to 250 miles a day, heading straight for the Gilbert islands.
The Japanese Military claimed they went to pick her up. So, where's Amelia?
Douglas Westfall, Author
ParagonAgency 2 years ago
Thank you for your reply. But let me throw in another. Lockheed said the plane would float? That may be if she managed to gently land in the water. If out of gas, there's no tell how she struck the water. Could have clipped a wing an cartwheeled smashing the plane to pieces. Secondly, Lockheed claims to a plane floating indefinetly are in part, manuafacturers claims. A vehicle designed to fly, especially at the time, is not designed to reisist water in a choppy ocean. Float time is questionable
BarneyFlart 2 years ago
The Electra was one of the first modern aircraft: built like a truck, all electronic servos, and no hydraulics. There's a solid strut running out into the wings that is two feet high in the passenger cabin -- had to step over it.
Also Earhart said she was flying at 1000 feet. Not hard to bring down a dead-stick plane from 1,000 feet. The 1200 gallon tanks were 12 tanks, so hard to break them all. Then there was the three man yellow life raft. Someone should have survived.
Best, Douglas Westfall
ParagonAgency 2 years ago
Well thats what the public believed for many years but strange evidence occurred where they found stamps in the Solomon islands with a crashed lockheed electra in the background, or found womens shoes and a pocketbook on Nikumaroro Island, and the SOS calls from her area that came in days after she went missing. Or the fact that WWII vets reported seeing Amelia's papers in a Japanise safe, plus the irene bolum theory where a woman sued a book that claimed she was Amelia. The judge said
FlyinRyans35 2 years ago
The judge said the thousands and thousands of dollars was Irene Bolums IF she did a finger print test to prove she was not Amelia Earhart and she declined. She wouldn't do it. When she died her ashes were bured in an unmarked grave by the US govt. Amelia couldn've been a spy. There are SO many theorys but I must admit the crash and sank theory is the most logical. If the impact didn't kill them, they drowned, if they didn't drown they were stranded on a island. WHO KNOWS
FlyinRyans35 2 years ago
@BarneyFlart Gotta agree with you, Barney. It's fun for people to imagine she landed on another island, or was picked up by the Japanese, or faked her disappearance and lived for years afterward under a new identity. But it seems to me the most likely story, by far, is that the plane, and the remains of Earhart and Noonan are on the bottom of the Pacific.
bus114 1 year ago
@BarneyFlart But the fact remains that nobody really knows what happened to her as they never found her nor Fred nor her plane. Thus - all we have is conjecture. And...thus it's quite a mystery indeed:)
3investigators 1 year ago
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chrissline77 1 year ago
@3investigators The shark ate her..Mystery solved..
babejayoung 1 year ago
@BarneyFlart The 'dip and dunk' theory is pretty sound -- a good friend (Elgen Long) did great research and a book on it. Still, I've interviewed the Lockheed man who, along with Lockheed, stated that the plane could float indefinitely. So, where's Earhart?
ParagonAgency 1 year ago
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AmeliaEarhartReborn 3 years ago
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YES !I was Amelia in my past life. Lots of facts support this.During my life I also saw many dreams regarding this.
Was Amelia ment to die according to some secret plan ?On the front page of the website you will find the reason why Amelia dissapered.Astonishing secrets are revealed. Through the my past life experiences, Amelia is able to describe the last minutes before her death, why she was lost, the exact location of the airplaine and also why it is incredibly difficult to find her.
AmeliaEarhartReborn 3 years ago
Well, that's an interesting story, probably worthy of a nice book I just hope you put it in the fiction section.
Speegs23 2 years ago 9
Let's not be snide. How many Earhart books have you written? ANYONE that can add to the Earhart Saga is welcome, buy all avid researchers, if in good taste.
Best Regards, Douglas Westfall, Publisher
ParagonAgency 2 years ago
Wouldn't it be funny if they found Amelia Earhart alive on an island. You'd be like.. ahhh shit.
FlyinRyans35 2 years ago
@FlyinRyans35 uhh she would be like 122 by now
LYCmooshki 2 years ago
ya, she would only be what? 130 years old?
DTownMichelle 2 years ago
Mr. Westfall, what is the hitch that keeps you from outright accepting the Irene Bolam who Joe Gervais met and photographed in 1965 as the former Amelia Earhart? Maybe I can help you overcome it. To some, including myself it is right as rain. What 'problem(s)' do you see with it? Just curious.
neilnils 3 years ago
Rollin was a good friend; I published his book, Amelia Earhart Survived. Tad is a fellow researcher and he's been to my home; I defended him in public at Atchison.
Two things however: 1) Irene Bolam is a much heavier woman than Earhart ever was. 2) Irene Bolam was to well schooled in Earhart and "knew more from prop to tail than any other pilot." -- Without any hard evidence, I'd say that's not Earhart.
Best Regards, Douglas
ParagonAgency 3 years ago
Ah, this is where you're amiss. If you're referring to Col. Reineck I understand. The other fellow's name is 'Tod' though, not 'Tad.' Check irene-amelia website. Demo in L.A. last year displayed amazing head to toe congruence of the 'Irene' who was only identified that way from 1945-1982. Showed photos of her from the late 1940s, early 1950s at AE's exact height & weight, same handwriting too. She gained weight by the 60s, by 70' slimmer again. No doubt was the former Earhart. Are you Masonic?
neilnils 3 years ago
Hi Mr. Westfall. To my knowledge, no evidence exists that hard-claimed Amelia as a spy or as a decoy. Nothing I posted in my last message remotely suggested that. Curious though, how can you prove she was a decoy? That sounds interesting to me. At least, you seem certain enough to so dogmatically state it as you did(?) What I do feel very certain about, is Earhart did not die on July 2, 1937 as history left so many to believe. Rather, she lived for a considerable time after that date.
neilnils 3 years ago
True. Earhart stated to Mark Walker (Navy Reserve Officer and Pan Am Copilot): "This isn't my idea, someone high up in the government asked me to do it." If indeed Earhart was not a spy, then for what reason would Roosevelt have gone against congress in spending $4 million to search for her?
I agree: I do not believe Earhart died on July 2 -- but perhaps with in a month or two as interviews suggest. That or we go to the Irene Bolam theory.
Best Regards, Douglas
ParagonAgency 3 years ago
Pertaining to the 'survival' theory, where in 1965 Admiral Nimitz did admit it was known and documented in Washington how Earhart ended up existing under the auspice of Japan after she was reported 'missing,' the question became: Would Japan, who in the 1930s regaled Amelia Earhart as a hero (Babe Ruth too) have allowed Amelia to die either by sickness or execution? OR, could another co-endorsed (U.S., Japan) solution have been achieved? The latter holds weight pre and post-WWII era wise.
neilnils 3 years ago
Amelia Earhart was not a spy, she was a decoy. The Japanese would not have allowed her to die. But if the Japanese forced down any aircraft in the Marshall islands -- it wasn't Earharts, and had their been a US spy mission, it wasn't Amelia. If she too had been picked up by the Japanese...
Best Regards, Douglas
ParagonAgency 3 years ago
You know what, she shouldn't have been doing that. It was a stupid idea and she'd regret it. I garentere all of you she's alive but, her plane was shot down. I wouldn't be surprised if that wats the case.
Suitelife2700 3 years ago
She'd be one hundred eleven if alive, and I do not believe she was shot down, but splashed into the sea after running out of fuel. Beyond that, no one is sure. Dumb idea? Probably so.
Best Regards, Douglas Westfall
ParagonAgency 3 years ago
YouTube does not let sites post here but the 'Amelia' website listed in the upper left 'neilnils' channel description box (under the piano player photo) has recently been up to 4000 hits a day. Btw, National Geo and the Smithsonian are not allowed to support any Earhart mystery solving theories. (non realized information.)
neilnils 3 years ago
As a former navigator, one of the places on earth I would dread attempting an accurate fix would be at an equatorial latitude, east bound, toward the international dateline at sunrise. Too many potential arithmetic errors to be made combined with a complete lack of precise celestial bodies to observe. Noonan had the deck stacked against him.
YankeeAirPirate61 3 years ago
No question that navigation was tough -- yet modifications to the radio & antennas in Miami reduced their effective range from 2000 miles to 200. The Itasca stated her response was an S5 which means she was within 50 miles. Then it cut off. Flying at 1000 feet means she could see about 45 miles -- and the island is an average 9 feet high. Hard to find in an ocean. Best Always, Doug
ParagonAgency 3 years ago
Jim Donohue believed the spy mission was British in his book, The Earhart Disappearance. I'm not stating anything about a spy -- just that Earhart was not. Rollin was a close friend and Gervais' author Klaas still is. Swindel has been to my home -- I support them as far as their information takes them.
Best Always, Douglas
ParagonAgency 3 years ago
If you look at the website dedicated to Joe Gervais and Rollin Reineck, comments about serving as a 'decoy' are expounded upon. But all remains uncertain. A fair suggestion regarding provability where true answers remain unknown; suggest 'decoy' rather than dogmatically state it as fact. Nothing has been proven there, although it is plausible, the point being private citizen individuals (I take it you are one) lack the ability to state the decoy claim as 'factual.'
neilnils 3 years ago
Pertaining to the 'survival' theory, where in 1965 Admiral Nimitz did admit it was known and documented in Washington how Earhart ended up existing under the auspice of Japan after she was reported 'missing,' the question became: Would Japan, who in the 1930s regaled Amelia Earhart as a hero (Babe Ruth too) have allowed Amelia to die either by sickness or execution? OR, could another co-endorsed (U.S., Japan) solution have been achieved for her continued existence? The latter holds weight.
neilnils 3 years ago
Neil: Don't know they knew it was her.
She wasn't the spy, she was a decoy.
Best Always, Douglas
ParagonAgency 3 years ago
Actually, I read something pretty recently that said that a group of historians might have found her grave at the sight of an old Japanese prison. If this is true, than that would prove the theory that the Japanese shot her down.
mysteriousperson2 3 years ago
I am aware of the group. Saipan was a Japanese stronghold, and would have been a logical place to take someone, and many islanders claim she was there. Yet, this has happened before - and at least three islands have been referenced as a place for a white woman flyer was seen. Garapan Prison on Saipan has been identified by many as the place the 'white woman flyer' was held. Still, shooting her down, vs having her die at an island prison - are two entirely different things.
Best Always, Douglas
ParagonAgency 3 years ago
I think she just ran out of gas
12audi31 3 years ago
She most likely did. "Low on gas" was one of her last transmissions, and from the strength of the signal she was within 50 miles of her target -- as determined by the Chief Radioman of the ship bringing her in.
Nearest landfall from there is 300 miles away. That says a water splashdown.
From then however, no one is sure what happened. The US Navy and Coast Guard searched 260,000 sq mi for 16 days, but found no plane, no wreckage, and no survivors.
Best Always, Douglas
ParagonAgency 3 years ago
i bet it was bush's fault( sarcasm)
jezuzfreek777 3 years ago
Actually, Bush (GHW) didn't fly until WWII. The youngest flying Lt. in the Navy's fleet, he flew TBM Avangers in 58 combat missions against the Japanese military and won the DFC. He was a little late for Earhart.
Best Always, Douglas
ParagonAgency 3 years ago
She droppded down in French Polynesia and said screw this! I`m not going back!
oldphoque 3 years ago
Yes, and I've seen that photo -- the girl in the photo looked rather tan to me.
Actually, the nearest island was 300 miles away and she's claiming she's out of gas.
Best Always, Douglas
ParagonAgency 3 years ago
what if she was shot down by another country? maybe they didn't want the US to do it first.
7amsays 3 years ago
Close -- what if she were picked up by another country? That's why the book is called the Hunt For Amelia Earhart, not the search.
Best Always, Douglas
ParagonAgency 3 years ago
sdads
kevinz2u 3 years ago
cool she flew across the world big deal :P? lol
Nutmikk 3 years ago
Well, then, 70 years ago, there was no radar, no current charts, and no plane that could fly more than 3000 miles. That and she was a woman in a man's world. Tough call though -- it was to be her last flight -- turned out to be too true.
Best Always, Douglas
ParagonAgency 3 years ago
typical white person
mysackyoulick 3 years ago
OK, I'm a WASP but I don't know how typical I am. All my minority friends (black, hispanic, native american, asian) say I'm a little different -- although they don't say how.
Your thoughts?
Best Always, Douglas
ParagonAgency 3 years ago
She Died
BingleChips 3 years ago
That or she'd be 111 in two weeks.
We have always known the who, what, & when:
Amelia Earhart disappeared July 2, 1937.
Recently we know why: modifications to her radio; and we know how. But what we don't know is to where.
Best Always, Douglas
ParagonAgency 3 years ago
speilberg is also obsessed with aliens, maybe poor amelia was pulled into a spacecraft and cloned a million times over and a planet is populated with brave flying women.
gymer15 3 years ago
Well, Earhart did show up on a Star Trek a few years ago. Hey if Steven Spielberg wants to do the film of my book on Earhart, he can put anything in it he wants. He left Long Beach State about the time I got there -- we were required to see his film short Amblin before graduating. That image has always stayed with me.
Best Alaways, Douglas
ParagonAgency 3 years ago
Sorry I don't remember that star trek, sounds like a good one. I think she crashed into the water and her aircraft broke apart on impact.
gymer15 3 years ago
I agree with the splash theory -- except if she was a good pilot or not, she was flying at only 1000 feet -- could have easily glided in for a water landing -- Lockheed stated the plane would float indefinately. And they had a life raft -- a big yellow one.
Best Always, Douglas
ParagonAgency 3 years ago
I never believed the plane was everything lockheed said it was, I think something went wrong and it did not glide.
gymer15 3 years ago
If Earhart's plane had crashed, there would have been some evidence: wreckage, oil slick, etc. The Navy flew 40 planes at a time, 1000 feet off the water, and combed 130,000 sq mi of sea. There was nothing, no plane, no wreckage, no survivors. Nothing.
Best Always, Douglas
ParagonAgency 3 years ago
I guess thats why we have a mystery on our hands, after 70 years I doubt we will ever have a solid answer. It's one of those things that will make us wonder. I see you live in orange, I live in aliso viejo. Nice chatten with ya. best always, joe
gymer15 3 years ago
There are several books that claim Earhart was in Japanese hands, and Adm Nimitz (Commander of hte Pacific Fleet in WWII) stated "If you want Amelia Earhart, you have to go to Saipan." Once one of the Japanese Mandated Islands. Doesn't prove anything, but it could be in the right direction.
Orange has a square mile historic district, third largest in the US. 1,500 historic buildings, 80% on the national register - they make 5 films here each year.
Best Always, Douglas
ParagonAgency 3 years ago
I've been to the orange circle with all the antique shops, about a year ago I went to a wedding at P J's abby.
gymer15 3 years ago
Old Towne Orange is the Antique capitol of California -- 7 malls, 50 independants, over 800 dealers, plus restaurants, services, etc. There's a vinyl record store: Mr. C's has 1000s of 50s, 60s, & 70s. It's unimaginable.
Earhart never came here however, and there's still the question that if she lived the splash down, for how long and to where did she go? That will come in time.
Best Always, Douglas
ParagonAgency 3 years ago
Do you really think after all these years a breakthrough or clue will come about??? Best always, joe
gymer15 3 years ago
I think we have to evaluate all the evidence -- If Earhart were picked up by the Japanese Military, what would make them keep quiet all these years? And if the US Govt knew; same question. If we can answer that, the puzzle will come together.
Best Always, Douglas
ParagonAgency 3 years ago
Too many godzilla movies have been made by japan to want to hide anything about amelia, if they had anything they would have never introduced mothra, they got nothing. very best always, joe
gymer15 3 years ago
Joe: Not if they did something stupid, assuming Earhart fell into the hands of the Japanese Military in 1937 -- Japan went to war with China, five days after Earhart disappeared. This was the start of WWII in the Pacific.
Earhart was not a spy -- she was a decoy.
Best Always, Douglas
ParagonAgency 3 years ago
If they did do something "dishonorable" [stupid in japanese] I think by now they would have fessed up to it.always the very best,joe
gymer15 3 years ago
The still won't acknowledge the 10M+ people killed by wartime genocide -- mostly Chinese. What's one more?
After the bombing of Pearl Harbor Dec 7, 1941 -- they bombed tiny Howland Dec 8, 1941, but why? There were four teenagers and a three tube radio. Was this a symbolic raid of the only stop Earhart never made?
Best Always, Douglas
ParagonAgency 3 years ago
Sounds like your sure about the japanese involvment of her dissapearence, it is a good theory. Something happend, she did not just vaporize aircraft and all.Best to you always,joe
gymer15 3 years ago
Joe: Several books of many interviews talk about it. No one saw the aircraft since she left Lae New Guinea 20 hours before -- but they were in radio contact over the last 200 miles. "Her voice was loud and clear; sounded frantic on her last transmission. Then it cut off." -- Leo Bellarts, Chief Radioman on the Itasca. How does that happen?
Best Always, Douglas
ParagonAgency 3 years ago
yes, i agree something happend. It was very fast. Your choice seems to be japanese involvment, the more time that goes by the less chance of finding out anything.
gymer15 3 years ago
We need to evaluate all the data that we have -- not pick through it as so many theorists do. The answer is there -- and although it may be more simple than we believe, it might be more tragic than we desire. How did her radio cut off? "The battery cage
was up in the belly of the plane. It
wasn't waterproof, so would short
out everything if the plane went into
the water -- especially the sea." Don Fowble, builder of Earhart's aircraft.
Best Always, Douglas
ParagonAgency 3 years ago
This just comes across as one of those things in life that will never be solved, even if the answer is right in our face we will never have any solid proof. best of the best always,joe
gymer15 3 years ago
Joe: We'll never find a body -- and perhaps not the aircraft either, But there are those who still are yet to be interviewed, who have another piece of the puzzle. Howard Hanzlik was the UP reporter on the Itasca -- died just last year. We just have to get to those who are left.
Best Always, Douglas
ParagonAgency 3 years ago
Someone best roundup the remaining informants as the clock is ticking, like I said before the more time that goes by the less the chance for an answer. Best to you, joe
gymer15 3 years ago
I've got at least two interviews coming up -- both are not from the Earhart Search, but there are at least two from the Navy search that are still living. Hopefully, we'll have enough.
Best Always, Douglas
ParagonAgency 3 years ago
speilberg should make a movie about it and in true jew boy fashion blame it on the nazi's
gymer15 3 years ago
Thanks for the well-wishing, actually there's three film stories here.
1) The flight where you believe Earhart is a spy
2) The search where you believe Earhart is not
3) The real twist to the end of the story
Only the bad guys here are the pre-WWII Japanese military:
Five days after Earhart disappeared in 1937 Japan started WWII by attacking China.
Best Always, Douglas
ParagonAgency 3 years ago
speilberg would have her crashed on an island, organizing natives, and defeating ss troops as they try to invade.
gymer15 3 years ago
That would be Indiana Jones...Actually of the first three films, 1937 is the only year they didn't use.
Best Always, Douglas
ParagonAgency 3 years ago
hey that was really good...very good experience. Gert pilots
sexyjulie17 3 years ago
All I write are books based upon unpublished first person accounts -- they always tell a different story, so I don't have an agenda when I start -- I just read it after I'm done to form an opinion, and say it's my opinion.
Thanks -- the guy who made the biplane film in 1937 is alive.
Best Always, Doug
ParagonAgency 3 years ago
A lot of "factual" statements in this film are blatantly incorrect. The Navy pilots who flew over the Phoenix Islands didn't "find nothing" - they reported that there were signs of recent habitation on Gardner.
Most amazing is the one that **everyone agrees** that her Electra splashed down. TIGHAR's efforts over a couple of decades, and all the evidence they've collected, all for nothing?
pappyfiddle 3 years ago
One Navy Pilot made that statement, not the other four guys in the other two planes. The spotter who flew over Gardner says otherwise, worked for the FAA his entire life, and he's alive. I'll go with him.
All the evidence on Gardner points to the 60+ islanders that lived there for a quarter of a century from 1938 to 1963 AND the two dozen Coast Guardmen that lived there for three years during WWII operating a LORAN station.
Think they dropped anything -- like a shoe?
Best Always, Doug
ParagonAgency 3 years ago
Jackie Kennedy just came to mind.
Lady Eisenhower also.
Oh Truman and Howaard Hughs too.
Old airplane picture I guess. Oh oh the Wrights just popped as I typed the words before you..behold I have a computer at my fingertips!
Reverseflush 3 years ago
Amazing, sounds like the Billy Joel song, We Didn't Start the Fire...Thekeyboard is where your thoughts become things.
Best Always, Douglas
ParagonAgency 3 years ago
Dear ParagonAgency, Your information is not up to date. 'Recommend you dig deeper to better enable yourself as a public informer about the so-called "Earhart disappearance." You have the lungs, but need work hitting the high notes. Just trying to help you my friend.
neilnils 3 years ago
Neils: I am working on it. Will release the Earhart Search later this year -- just a compilation of restored LOC archive records and charts. Everyone should have that one.
I've worked with Elgen, Reineck, Klaas (author for Gervais), and have access to Gervais' files. I've been trying to interview people around the country who knew the people then, but they keep dying on me. As for the disappearance part -- I wrote what I found -- not much opinion in that one.
Best, Doug
ParagonAgency 3 years ago
ok i usually dont make fun of people
but his voice sounds like Mr. Mackey from the south park !!!!!!!
okay kids XD
Seiferzed 3 years ago
Hey, haden't heard that one. But it's like the guy with the ugly dog, it's all I've got. And today I've got a cold.
Best Always, Doug
ParagonAgency 3 years ago
Hey Doug, I think you have a great voice. Kinda reminds me of Garrison Keiller. Anyway, very interesting vid.
asdffd 3 years ago
Well, thank you -- 30 years of practice -- gave a lecture just today (with a cold as well).
The point is there are seven men, from whom I took down their account: letters, diaries, interviews, memoirs; three of these guys are still alive. What they say changes history. One living man has the film of the biplanes in the Youtube. How grand to have 71 year old film of anything so remote, much less than the Earhart Search.
Best Always, Douglas
ParagonAgency 3 years ago
is this guy sleep talking ?
Seiferzed 3 years ago
hahah i think so.
philberardi 3 years ago
No, it just sounds like it. I have a nasal voice yet I've given thousands of lectures and not put anyone to sleep yet. Course that's with a live audience...
Best Regards, Douglas
ParagonAgency 3 years ago
im related to amelia
mydogsrock000 3 years ago
Well, there is the story of her having a child and supposedly there's a granddaughter living in the UK. Hard to prove at this point without DNA samples.
Best Regards, Douglas
ParagonAgency 3 years ago
Everybody pull your socks up. .. Everybody put your foot down...Oh Yeah...
1airportsignguy 3 years ago
Would that be windsock? There was one on Howland Island when they were waiting for Earhart in July of 1937 -- I have a photograph of it taken by a man who was there just the one time on that day. Went to college with his daughter in the 1970s.
Best Always, Douglas
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marblelmnop 3 years ago
why are they lookin for her if shes dead everyone nos that cuz noone can surviv a plane crash
icydayz111 3 years ago
Well, we won't find a body. She'd be 111 this July. If buried on one of those coral islands, you won't find anything. Coral is like Drano, heck in ten years you wouldn't find teeth.
Finding the plane would be nice.
Best Always, Douglas
ParagonAgency 3 years ago
Maybe they'll find her body in the next season of Lost?
BitterYoungMan 3 years ago
Lost is filmed on the north shore of Oahu -- I'm packed and ready to go. Actually Earhart was supposed to fly to Oahu before returning to the mainland. So does that mean there's hope?
She did show up on a Star Trek a few years ago...
Best Always, Doug
ParagonAgency 3 years ago
If Lost is filmed north of Oahu don't you think Kate, Jack, Sawyer, and the gang would have found their way back to civilization along time ago (DUH!).
BitterYoungMan 3 years ago
it is filmed in Oahu but you do make a great point, if their minutes away from civilization why the hell aren't they munchin on spam and eggs and going to nice hotels?
trechan 3 years ago
I'd speak with catering if it were me.
Earhart flew 20 hours from Lae New Guinea to within Howland Island non-stop -- some 2500 miles. No islands along the way had runways.
Don't know what they ate.
Best Always, Douglas
ParagonAgency 3 years ago
They can't find their way back because it's in their contract not to do so. That's my guess.
Earhart was reported within 50 miles of her target: Howland Island. Course it was actually 5 miles further east than her charts showed, and flying at 1000 feet makes the horizon 47 miles away. Missed it by that much.
Best Regards, Dougls
ParagonAgency 3 years ago
is the hunt for her still going on today?
trechan 3 years ago
Yes, of course. Deep sea search continues off Howland Island by Nauticos - at a $1M a shot; An Australian, David Billings is looking on East New Britian Island in New Guinea as we speak; and there continues to be a constant interest in Saipan -- a US Commenwealth.
Only we call it a search -- the hunt was used in reference to the Japanese Military.
Best Always, Doug
ParagonAgency 3 years ago
No. I am pretty sure they gave up 69 years ago.
BitterYoungMan 3 years ago
Actually the US Navy ended the search July 18th, 1937 and she was declared dead the following year. But the rest of us still continue to look. That's why so many books, stories, movies (new one coming, plus a documentary,) and interest. We never give up, never leave anyone behind.
Best Always, Doug
ParagonAgency 3 years ago
Neil: True, but the plane was traded out with the Daily Express in Miami, and it had the engines replaced in Bandoeng Indonesia. We don't know the actual configuration -- but I assume they were vented. Regardless, three days is enough to get that life raft up.
In 1938 the Hawaii Clipper disappeared in the Pacific, weeks later Pan Am located a huge oil slick.
The Navy flew tight patterns with 40 planes at a time, over 130,000 sq mi west of Howland -- they found nothing.
Best Always, Doug
ParagonAgency 3 years ago
I think that's the main point. To "teach" Earhart "FACTS" Paragon Books, you need to know the material better. The original Lockheed Electra had non-vented gas tanks. Amelia's had huge VENTED gas tanks added to hold over a 1,000 gal. capacity, so they WOULD have FILLED with water. Plane SINKS 3-5 hours (See the OFFICIAL UPDATED Lockheed report.) Your "friend" Elgen Long, the late Goerner, TIGHAR, and the AE Society ALL up to speed there. Catch up with the pack my good man!
neilnils 3 years ago
Perhaps, but Earhart had a dozen world flying records. Altitude, distance, solo, fixed & rotary wing. Anybody else do that? The only two people to repeat Earhart's world flight in the same 1937 Electra were women. Ann Pellegreno in 1967 and Linda Finch in 1997. Ann is a close friend.
Doesn't matter Earhart was a celebrity -- as were many pilots of the 20s and 30s.
Point is, American goes after it's own -- and we don't leave a man (or woman) behind.
Best Always, Douglas
ParagonAgency 3 years ago
Amelia wasn't all that great of a pilot. Her DFC was for **riding across the Atlantic as a passenger**. She had already crashed this aircraft once thru incompetence; and her plan of flying to Howland had serious flaws in it with no adequate plan B. Most of her fame was due to PR (her husband was a PR man.) But good luck on your book sales anyway...
pappyfiddle 3 years ago
Didn't say she was great -- just had many records -- got lost numerous times even on the way to Africa, with a navigator. If you knew the real plan B you'd laugh. Yeah and the same husband, declared her dead and married someone else (wife #3) there was a fourth too --
Thanks for the well wishes -- maybe I need a good PR man.
Best Always, Douglas
ParagonAgency 3 years ago
Dear 'Book Talk,' 'Video misses. The 'mystery' asks: Did Amelia survive beyond July 2nd, 1937? If so, for how long and where? There's Goerner's classic 1966 AE survived book, the 1970 Gervais 'identity switch' claim, and the TIGHAR Nikumororo claim. Or do you favor Elgen Long's crashed and sank scenario? Video ignores these famous investigators. & Lockheed's final word: engine weight & vented gas tanks, Electra sinks in a few hrs. Raft drift? Nah. Survival meant she went down on or near land.
neilnils 3 years ago
Neil: Again, it's a 5 minute overview for a 260 page book. I'm friends with Elgen and Joe Klaas (Gervais author), and I published Reinecks' book.
Lockheed's quote: "Technicians familiar with Miss Earhart's plane believe, with its large tanks it can float almost indefinitely."
She had a life raft -- drift was 12 knots west.
Look in Amelia Earhart's Radio we showed Why she disappeared: her Radio. In The Hunt For Amelia Earhart we show how. The only question left is to where?
Best Alwaya, Doug
ParagonAgency 3 years ago
In "Finding Amelia", Ric Gillespie shows that Itasca's radio record is fragmentary. It was not a transcript, it was barely literate guys making notes, often hours later, and one of the radiomen was grabbing up miscellaneous papers figuring to sell them later. Official reports based on those logs were made to fit the Navy line. It's weird so see so many researchers doing close analysis of Itasca's radio logs and reports, basing heavy theories on them.
pappyfiddle 3 years ago
I went from the audio interview of the Itasca's Chief Radioman, Leo Bellarts. He said:"I actually did go outside and stand right out the radio shack and thought I would hear a motor any second. Her voice was loud and clear; sounded frantic on her last transmission."
Her radio had a 200 mile range, and an S5 strength, she's within 50 miles of the receiver on the Itasca.
I'll go with him and not put any weight in the logs.
Best Always, Douglas
ParagonAgency 3 years ago
the dude talking is sooooooooo boring all i hear is blah blah blah blah blah blah blah and it just keeps on going blah blah blah blah (etc.)!
Sabsgirl 3 years ago
I'm not here to entertain you, I'm here to teach you. Again, it's a 5 minute overview for a 260 page book, that has seven first-person accounts of the men who searched for her and built her airplane -- three of them are still living.
What they say, changes history.
Best Always, Douglas
ParagonAgency 3 years ago
sorry if i pissed u off ParagonAgency! I didn't mean to be like those annoying people saying bad comments on here i just think the guy has one of those boring voices. But the information is very interesting! Thanks for posting the video to help people learn about her!!
Sabsgirl 3 years ago
You didn't. And I have a nasal voice, but I've given talks all over the world for 30 years -- it's hard to stop. Maybe I should get a celebrity to do my audio books.
Best Regards, Douglas
ParagonAgency 3 years ago
I found her... she is my neighbor.
jonzoandcoolmatt 3 years ago
So the obvious question is where are you?
Amelia Earhart is dead. Had she lived she'd be 111 on this July 24th. Each year we hold an Earhart Festival and Birthday at the Earhart Birthplace and Museum in Atchison, Kansas.
She never shows.
Best Always, Douglas
ParagonAgency 3 years ago
Most boring video ever.
FlabWagger 3 years ago
OK, I need to hear that. Again, it's a 5 minute overview for a 260 page book. So tell me what I could put up to make you interested in America's History?
Best Always, Douglas
ParagonAgency 3 years ago
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colombian419 3 years ago
mabey she crash landed on the island in lost
theno1kufan 3 years ago
Again, Lost is filmed on the north shore of Oahu; perhaps we should look there.
Best Regards, Douglas
ParagonAgency 3 years ago
I thought the Red Baron shot her down?
TheHilton88 3 years ago
Manfred von Richthofen, the Red Baron, was killed in 1918. Had over 80 'kills' to his credit; was shot though the heart but managed to land his plane before dieing.
Best Always, Douglas
ParagonAgency 3 years ago
The Japanese, or German Submariners took her to the secret sub base Atlantis to be a Tutor for the Children left there. Just like in the Jules Vernes Movie: " The Lost City of Atlantis"!
SCOOTERBALLUSA 3 years ago
After Pearl Harbor on Dec 7, 1941, the Japanese military moved ships and planes to tiny Howland Island, some 1900 mile south west of Hawaii, to bomb the island -- the only stop Amelia Earhart never made. Days later, the Japanese Military returned with a submarine and shelled the island, destroying the buildings and the Amelia Earhart Lighthouse constructed the year after she disappeared.
That's the only Japanese submarine that got near Earhart and that was 4½ years later.
Best Always, Douglas
ParagonAgency 3 years ago
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neilnils 3 years ago
Neil: It's an American thing -- we never leave anyone behind, like the Titanic. It was an American ship, built in Ireland, and registered in England.
Best Regards, Douglas Westfall, Pblisher
ParagonAgency 3 years ago
That's barnyard syrup, we left a lot of POW's behind in Nam
pappyfiddle 3 years ago
Yes, too many -- yet I have a close friend, shot down in Nam, left for dead -- we got him out. Lost too many friends over there myself.
Doesn't mean we shouldn't try.
Best Always, Douglas
ParagonAgency 3 years ago
The informations looks interesting but you make it somewhat difficult to follow. Your voice isn't suited for commenting. I recommend hiring someone or having someone else do the commenting because your voice is too nasal.
DanGrr 3 years ago
Thanks for the input -- yes that's true. I give lectures thoroughout the country and have done so overseas as well. Stubbornly, the only one they want for my material is me. Again, it's a 5 minute overview for a 200 page book.
Best Regards, Douglas Westfall, Publisher
ParagonAgency 3 years ago