I think that even in it's unfinished state we all kinda know what happens. The end of freedom and the beginning of governmental regulations. That about sums it up.... yea but i'd love to have seen those shows made.
Deadwood was too expensive for the lords of HBO. The profit margin wasn't big enough. For the same money it took to assemble the astoundingly accurate sets and huge cast, they could make a dozen shows about lesbian vampires and clear much more $ on the back end.
It's a shame, because the show was a magnificent creation, even if that creation was about a foul, hellish place. But its roles and characterizations were equal to the best ever seen on TV, and the storyline worthy of Shakespeare.
In case there's resurrection of the flesh. EB was hysterical as one of Swearengen's twisted little minions in the camp. God, this show was divine it was so good. It's really quite a shame that they just don't do like a miniseries, movie, or (preferably) one last season ending with Al burning the camp down.
Milch didn't complain of the series costs - HBO refused to pony up the 2-3 mil per episode to generate a finished product. Milch wanted a fourth season.
Judas ... How can supposed fans of this show be so misinformed about the most glaring reason for Deadwood's cancellation? Blame HBO, not Milch ...
I looked into some history of the place, Hearst never got killed...he just left deadwood and never came back, but all the mining operations were his....so yeah.
@tend Series 4 would be nice too. I'd love to see how Al looses all his money and dies poor and alone. Don't get me wrong, I like the cocksucker, but in the real deadwood back in the day, that's what happened.
I've never read anything saying Al was to die in season 4 in the Deadwood Stories of the Black Hills Book, nor heard anything in any of Milch's lectures. Milch did want a sort of Witch Doctor who would compete with (read as, "drive batshit") Doc Cochran. One of the scenes he had planned was this Witch Doctor relieving Hearst's backpain. When he found out they weren't going to do a season 4, he adapted this scene into its current form, with Jack Langrishe. -next comment-
The other scene Milch was going to do (and this would have been a great scene) goes as follows. Bullock was to be barricaded in the jailhouse, REFUSING to give his badge up when he found out the elections were rigged.
Back on Al though. The real Al had died "in the middle of a suburban Denver street on November 15, 1904" Doubt Milch would have killed him off.
@Veeshush Good info there. Where can i find this book? is it called Black hills book or Deadwood Stories? Im fascinated by the area and the time after watching Deadwood. Milch and the other writers and directors did a brilliant job on this.
Yeah, it's "Deadwood Stories of the Black Hills". Another book to get would be "Deadwood: 1876-1976 (SD) (Images of America)" I got both from Amazon. Also, google "the idea of the writer david milch" as there's a blogspot full of Milch lectures. Also, I can't wait for Luck coming out this year. Should be out this fall.
No, but it should be Milch's best work yet. Milch says "The pilot is about a bunch of intersecting lives in the world of horse racing..." I'm hoping Luck will just be a more modern Deadwood. He's said before the race track is like a nest of vipers, stealing your money all while making you think you've just "made a series of bad choices" at the end of the day. "They want to leave you naked and bleeding".
@Veeshush Wow, that really strikes a nerve (a good one). A few of my family have shares in race horses. And they never get anything back! Should be good. Cheers.
Oh! Forgot one last little tidbit about Deadwood. Milch originally wanted to do a show set in Ancient Rome, but then HBO told him they were already doing one. So he wanted to do a story about America's last gold rush. He even considered Alaska, but he knew damn well it'd be too cold. So we got Deadwood. At least we can thank HBO's Rome for at least making one of the best shows ever: Deadwood.
I love that last line ("Can't help yourself, can you?"), though the context isn't present in this clip. IIRC, earlier in their conversation, or in a previous scene from this episode, Al berates E.B. for constantly repeating what he's just said in the form of a question - partially to make sure he's following what was said, partially as a nervous tic, I guess. It's a great example of Al's tendency to play, intellectually and rhetorically, with his inferiors as a cat plays with a wounded mouse.
Were you born, Richardson, and not egg-hatched as I'd always assumed. Did your mother once hover over you--snaggle toothed and doting--as you now hover over me?
William Sanderson, I love ya. We all have some deep fear and are blessed that we don't have to fall apart like Farnum...almost every episode the guy faces the black empty.
He should be in a Tom Waits song...maybe with a face on the back of his head..."maybe a women's face, or a young girl...to remove it would be suicide...so poor "Edward" was doomed....." Besides, Farnum suffers for us all, and without Farnum on the show...I'd be miserable.
Al shoulda killed him instead of giving him a pass. Anyone who knows anything about E.B. Farnum knows that he's a fucking rat-sheister who can't be trusted!
I respectfully disagree. Though a lowly "Hotelier" Farnum is so easily intimidated and manipulated as to be of great use to Al. And besides, Farnam's lines are usually some of the funniest shit on the show!!
Farnum is the tragic character of Deadwood. Aware of his smallness, he can only resort to the most sordid of tactics. He is easy to hate and hard to love, but he is the picture of a human when made weak.
COCKSUCKER I WANT MY DEADWOOD
Sanaa2k 6 months ago
I'd appreciate not being Eet by the pigs.
j6mcd 9 months ago
Best show ever made
IGOTTHESHAKESBAD 10 months ago
Ian would be the perfect Snidley Whiplash if they ever made a violent version of Dudley Do-Right
JWade29 1 year ago
Masters in Acting 101 for all that want to act...
Learn, study this, it's perfection.
meltz911 1 year ago 4
I can promise that I would crap and piss my pants if I was ever grilled like that by Al Swearengen.
cbhitman1 1 year ago 6
Well, at least it went off the air before it started to suck.
VolumeTurnedDown 1 year ago
swearengen is the bad assest character ever conceived of
stump229 1 year ago 2
I'm stunned that you don't have the "Who cut the cheese?" scene posted
WiseGuy5674 1 year ago
Al really enjoys intimidating EB, haha
KleWdSide 1 year ago
i really hate the fact that i can never watch a nother episode a again
schnur011 1 year ago
I think that even in it's unfinished state we all kinda know what happens. The end of freedom and the beginning of governmental regulations. That about sums it up.... yea but i'd love to have seen those shows made.
TheLoneShooter 1 year ago
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"Generally,...I kill the cocksucker I have a doubt or misgiving about."
"If I want to, I can burn the whole fucking camp down. Cut your throat first, & then burn down THE WHOLE FUCKING CAMP!
WarriorTrtle1 1 year ago
affirmative!!!
ThePuffinstuff 1 year ago
such a great goddamn show, one would think that hbo would get so many more seasons out of it.
AvEryBadApPLe 1 year ago
Ian McShane show to me he is the best actor i have ever seen,noone could do deadwood better
hyenachase 1 year ago 5
@hyenachase Yes. He's a strong actor. I never heard of him untill deadwood.
AgnosticFonts00 1 year ago
best tv show all time
hyenachase 1 year ago 3
Deadwood was too expensive for the lords of HBO. The profit margin wasn't big enough. For the same money it took to assemble the astoundingly accurate sets and huge cast, they could make a dozen shows about lesbian vampires and clear much more $ on the back end.
It's a shame, because the show was a magnificent creation, even if that creation was about a foul, hellish place. But its roles and characterizations were equal to the best ever seen on TV, and the storyline worthy of Shakespeare.
jum1801 1 year ago 5
In case there's resurrection of the flesh. EB was hysterical as one of Swearengen's twisted little minions in the camp. God, this show was divine it was so good. It's really quite a shame that they just don't do like a miniseries, movie, or (preferably) one last season ending with Al burning the camp down.
AllTerroristsMustDie 2 years ago 3
I wasn't askin nuthin....I was sayin
BIGARMJIM 2 years ago
Milch didn't complain of the series costs - HBO refused to pony up the 2-3 mil per episode to generate a finished product. Milch wanted a fourth season.
Judas ... How can supposed fans of this show be so misinformed about the most glaring reason for Deadwood's cancellation? Blame HBO, not Milch ...
ChestertonsBulldog 2 years ago 4
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tobasco77 2 years ago
I want my fuckin Deadwood tv movie series damnit.
Just give me 3 1 hour shows to tie this shit up.
tend 2 years ago 30
David Milch said it was too expensive. What a fucking pussy. It's not like this show didn't have a fanatical cult following. Hell, it still does.
I will never forgive that cocksucker.
jamcrane3 2 years ago
@tend I was thinking the same, that cocksucker Hearst needs to get his.
scottnsuzs 1 year ago
@scottnsuzs
I looked into some history of the place, Hearst never got killed...he just left deadwood and never came back, but all the mining operations were his....so yeah.
sagem28 1 year ago
@sagem28 yeah, but i really liked ellsworth a lot. so i think hearst needs to be killed even if it didn't really happen. lol.
scottnsuzs 1 year ago
@tend Series 4 would be nice too. I'd love to see how Al looses all his money and dies poor and alone. Don't get me wrong, I like the cocksucker, but in the real deadwood back in the day, that's what happened.
delmarian 9 months ago
@delmarian
(part 1)
I've never read anything saying Al was to die in season 4 in the Deadwood Stories of the Black Hills Book, nor heard anything in any of Milch's lectures. Milch did want a sort of Witch Doctor who would compete with (read as, "drive batshit") Doc Cochran. One of the scenes he had planned was this Witch Doctor relieving Hearst's backpain. When he found out they weren't going to do a season 4, he adapted this scene into its current form, with Jack Langrishe. -next comment-
Veeshush 9 months ago
@delmarian
The other scene Milch was going to do (and this would have been a great scene) goes as follows. Bullock was to be barricaded in the jailhouse, REFUSING to give his badge up when he found out the elections were rigged.
Back on Al though. The real Al had died "in the middle of a suburban Denver street on November 15, 1904" Doubt Milch would have killed him off.
Veeshush 9 months ago
@Veeshush Good info there. Where can i find this book? is it called Black hills book or Deadwood Stories? Im fascinated by the area and the time after watching Deadwood. Milch and the other writers and directors did a brilliant job on this.
delmarian 9 months ago
@delmarian
Yeah, it's "Deadwood Stories of the Black Hills". Another book to get would be "Deadwood: 1876-1976 (SD) (Images of America)" I got both from Amazon. Also, google "the idea of the writer david milch" as there's a blogspot full of Milch lectures. Also, I can't wait for Luck coming out this year. Should be out this fall.
Veeshush 9 months ago
@Veeshush Thank You. Haven't heard of 'Luck'. Is it set in the 1800's gold rush time?
delmarian 9 months ago
@delmarian
No, but it should be Milch's best work yet. Milch says "The pilot is about a bunch of intersecting lives in the world of horse racing..." I'm hoping Luck will just be a more modern Deadwood. He's said before the race track is like a nest of vipers, stealing your money all while making you think you've just "made a series of bad choices" at the end of the day. "They want to leave you naked and bleeding".
Veeshush 9 months ago
@Veeshush Wow, that really strikes a nerve (a good one). A few of my family have shares in race horses. And they never get anything back! Should be good. Cheers.
delmarian 9 months ago
@delmarian
Oh! Forgot one last little tidbit about Deadwood. Milch originally wanted to do a show set in Ancient Rome, but then HBO told him they were already doing one. So he wanted to do a story about America's last gold rush. He even considered Alaska, but he knew damn well it'd be too cold. So we got Deadwood. At least we can thank HBO's Rome for at least making one of the best shows ever: Deadwood.
Veeshush 9 months ago
If they ever decide to do a remake of "Jaws", Ian McShane would be the perfect Quint.
wistoncap 2 years ago 20
@wistoncap Wow. That was the VERY first thing I said when I first saw this show.
TheHockeyCentral 9 months ago
I love that last line ("Can't help yourself, can you?"), though the context isn't present in this clip. IIRC, earlier in their conversation, or in a previous scene from this episode, Al berates E.B. for constantly repeating what he's just said in the form of a question - partially to make sure he's following what was said, partially as a nervous tic, I guess. It's a great example of Al's tendency to play, intellectually and rhetorically, with his inferiors as a cat plays with a wounded mouse.
mattstan 2 years ago
Some of my favorite scenes In Deadwood is just dialog between William Sanderson and Ian McShane.... Just pure gold from two great actors!
BenHoganHawk 2 years ago 4
what season is this from?
SchizoKnight12 2 years ago
season one
WiseGuy5674 2 years ago
Season 1 Episode 3 I think
WarriorTrtle 2 years ago
Season 1...not sure the episode. If I had to guess, I would say the 5th or 6th.
Mikedundotta 2 years ago
Were you born, Richardson, and not egg-hatched as I'd always assumed. Did your mother once hover over you--snaggle toothed and doting--as you now hover over me?
tamerlanenj 3 years ago 6
William Sanderson, I love ya. We all have some deep fear and are blessed that we don't have to fall apart like Farnum...almost every episode the guy faces the black empty.
He should be in a Tom Waits song...maybe with a face on the back of his head..."maybe a women's face, or a young girl...to remove it would be suicide...so poor "Edward" was doomed....." Besides, Farnum suffers for us all, and without Farnum on the show...I'd be miserable.
sclogse1 3 years ago 5
BRING IT BACK! BRING IT BACK!
Squidforhire 3 years ago 3
BRING IT BACK!!!!!
widaveg 3 years ago 7
the best show ever
brainwave300 3 years ago 7
"Generally,...I kill the cocksucker I have a doubt or misgiving about."
"If I want to, I can burn the whole fucking camp down. Cut your throat first, then burn down THE WHOLE FUCKING CAMP!
WarriorTrtle 4 years ago
Al shoulda killed him instead of giving him a pass. Anyone who knows anything about E.B. Farnum knows that he's a fucking rat-sheister who can't be trusted!
WarriorTrtle 4 years ago
I respectfully disagree. Though a lowly "Hotelier" Farnum is so easily intimidated and manipulated as to be of great use to Al. And besides, Farnam's lines are usually some of the funniest shit on the show!!
baylorwhite1 3 years ago 6
Farnum is the tragic character of Deadwood. Aware of his smallness, he can only resort to the most sordid of tactics. He is easy to hate and hard to love, but he is the picture of a human when made weak.
clogeater 2 years ago 4
Well said!
brandonhansentx 2 years ago