america are a nation of sheople. tom and charles have it right but the nation will sleep away and will be willing to go to war with iran and for what reason? no reason at all.. how sad..
The Zeitgeist Movement is the only Group out there that has brought up some Real and Tangible Solutions to ACTUALLY SOLVE OUR ECONOMICAL, SOCIAL & ECOLOGICAL CRISIS - watch "Awakening 1/4" (short video) and "Zeitgeist Addendum" to know more about it. Both of them are on YouTube. The SOLUTIONS presented in both videos are already being applied and they have already been proved to work in the short and long run. It's about time to expand/spread it World Wide.
@FactualSolutions Idiot, lots of other people have said that the real solution is to go back to a libertarian, free market, society. The zeitgeist want to go to some kind of communist technocratic society. Come on man, keep it real. That would NEVER work.
@karkelkhan - let me quote you pal "The zeitgeist want to go to some kind of communist technocratic society. Come on man, keep it real. That would NEVER work."
I am glad to say that the SOLUTIONS presented in both videos are already being applied and they have already been proved to work in the short and long run. Check for yourself or ignore the facts - it is up to you pal - what you think doesn't change the facts.
@karkelkhan Just watch: - "Awakening 1/4 " - - "Zeitgeist Activist Orientation Guide Video" - - "Our Technical Reality" - - "The Zeitgeist Movement - Futurists, Technology and Cultural Lag" - "The Zeitgeist Movement - Common Objections, Observations, Responses" - - "Where are we now?" - - "Where are we going?" - - "Social Pathology " - - "Who is Peter Joseph?" The information is a click away from you - it is up to you check it out, no one else can do it for you. Take care :) FS
So far we have had economic bubbles and crashes every 7 to 10 years, I don't feel the current system is working well. I know most our laws today are written by Lobbyists. We need Oversight, Transparency and Accountability, we have none for our government!
Who was living off their house, Most people I know used the equity to pay off medical bills and fix their car, No doubt people did foolish things but this economic disaster was engeneered.
@bajoverga - hey pal - i know what you mean - i first though the same thing until i had a chance to check the videos after zeitgeist 2 - i can't blame you for thinking like that - all i can say is that there is nothing to do with capitalism, socialism, communism or any other form of "ism".
got to:
the zeitgeist movement dot com
check the other vids and see for yourself what a resource based economy is about
@FactualSolutions are you stupid or is it that you just dont like to think on your own ? take a new look at that zeitgeist crap do you want a fucking laptop PC to run the swow ? HA HA HA HA HA HA ha ha ha uuuuu...........
I am glad to say that the SOLUTIONS presented in both videos are already being applied and they have already been proved to work in the short and long run. Check for yourself or ignore the facts - it is up to you pal - what you think doesn't change the facts.
youtube "Awakening 1/4"
got to:
the zeitgeist movement dot com
check the other vids and see for yourself what a resource based economy is about.
I am glad to say that the SOLUTIONS presented in both videos are already being applied and they have already been proved to work in the short and long run. Check for yourself or ignore the facts - it is up to you pal - what you think doesn't change the facts.
youtube "Awakening 1/4"
got to:
the zeitgeist movement dot com
check the other vids and see for yourself what a resource based economy is about.
@swiftysmithuk - what i can tell you in advanced it to not confuse the Resource Based Economy Foundation with a Resource Based Economy from jacque fresco.
To know more about the Zeitgeist Movement or Venus Project i strongly recommend you watch the videos posted on the zeitgeist movement dot com
Thanks for the guidance, I have already watched the video's and visited the websites, so I'm familiar with the vision presented, but now I am trying to find any academic studies or publications from the Zeitgeist Movement or Venus Project on the economic foundation of it's utopian vision.
Specifically, "The Economic Calculation Problem".
After all, if this has not been solved, any possibility of a centrally planned resource based economy working is zero.
@swiftysmithuk - hey pal - i got your point - you can find some of their publications on their main website - go to the tab "comunicate" - and choose the last option "newsletter"
You wont find any topic relating a RBE as an utopian vision and...the rest you can read by yourself.
Zeitgeist should be watched for the information but their solutions arent practical you dont give power to few committees and individual
Technology will change social problems as long as individuals produce and consume on their own restricted by the constitution to uphold voluntary contracts,
They have a warped Star Trek out look where in you can make resources out of nothing abolishing money as a tool to be manipulated by "profit"
@europa - i strongly advise you to watch some vids to know more about what a RBE is about....it is up to you pal ;"Awakening 1/4 " - - "Zeitgeist Activist Orientation Guide Video" - - "Our Technical Reality" - - "The Zeitgeist Movement - Futurists, Technology and Cultural Lag" - "The Zeitgeist Movement - Common Objections, Observations, Responses" - - "Where are we now?" - - "Where are we going?" - - "Social Pathology " - - "Who is Peter Joseph?" Take care :) FS
I've seen it they have good points but absolute power absolutely corrupts, its a cliche that has lasted the entire human condition for a reason it speaks truth.
The want resources to be allocated by scientific committees science is a theory and approach to solving the question why.Humans, with all the pros and cons of a human. Humans react to fear and desire and they can be manipulated.
Power structure should be small, local and to a minimal up held by private property.
@europa - interesting comments - i strongly suggest you to watch other videos produced by TZM to get a clearer idea of what a resource based economy is about and how it works (and i don't mean to be rude by saying that, by the way...but people use to watch Z2 and think they know everything about a RBE) go to the zeitgeist movement dot com to know more about - watch the videos posted there
@europa - hi again - yes - i did watch " philosophy of liberty" - i know that vid, i went to their websites and sent it to several friends i have in different countries as they have the vids in different languages - but again - you mentioned about "work and own what you produce" about "competition leading to the most efficient approach" - i strongly advise you to watch "Awakening 1/4" on youtube...just to be aware of some facts that you may be missing so far ; it is just info pal, nothing more
@AndyMH182 Haha! You mean this dude isn't even Tom Woods? That's rich! LOL This anti-war crap is getting old, really. Neville Chamberlain couldn't pull it off, and Austin radio can do no better. BTW, quoting Kudlow? Even HE says that he has no clue! LOL
Tom needs to get a lot of support behind him to get him on the mainstream media he would entertain and inform very easily
Emails perhaps?
europa 1 year ago
america are a nation of sheople. tom and charles have it right but the nation will sleep away and will be willing to go to war with iran and for what reason? no reason at all.. how sad..
navtel 1 year ago
@navtel sheeple dummy, sheeple
jnthnbush 1 year ago
@jnthnbush ... no i believe the word is sheople.. but thanks smarty pants.
navtel 1 year ago
I'm concerned that as the American Empire falls, people are going to beg for a strong-man to save them.
One People, One Nation, One Leader.
The greatest danger is that people really do not think it could happen here.
CurtHowland 1 year ago 2
@CurtHowland If that man would be Ron Paul, I would be oke with that. :P
karkelkhan 1 year ago
The Zeitgeist Movement is the only Group out there that has brought up some Real and Tangible Solutions to ACTUALLY SOLVE OUR ECONOMICAL, SOCIAL & ECOLOGICAL CRISIS - watch "Awakening 1/4" (short video) and "Zeitgeist Addendum" to know more about it. Both of them are on YouTube. The SOLUTIONS presented in both videos are already being applied and they have already been proved to work in the short and long run. It's about time to expand/spread it World Wide.
the zeitgeist movement dot com
:)FS
FactualSolutions 1 year ago
@FactualSolutions Idiot, lots of other people have said that the real solution is to go back to a libertarian, free market, society. The zeitgeist want to go to some kind of communist technocratic society. Come on man, keep it real. That would NEVER work.
karkelkhan 1 year ago 8
@karkelkhan - let me quote you pal "The zeitgeist want to go to some kind of communist technocratic society. Come on man, keep it real. That would NEVER work."
I am glad to say that the SOLUTIONS presented in both videos are already being applied and they have already been proved to work in the short and long run. Check for yourself or ignore the facts - it is up to you pal - what you think doesn't change the facts.
youtube "Awakening 1/4"
:)
FS
FactualSolutions 1 year ago
@FactualSolutions The only way to solve scarcity is with a free market.
karkelkhan 1 year ago
FactualSolutions 1 year ago
@karkelkhan
you cant solve scarcity, wealth is never created nor destroyed its merely transferred
So the free markets is the most fair, efficient system to the allocation of these scarce resources that's why TRUE free markets is the best solution
Not Bush/Barry" Obama" Soetoro fascism where in corporations, foreign and domestic get in bed with govt wiping out competition and gaining monopolies
europa 1 year ago
False lighthouse, great analogy!
So far we have had economic bubbles and crashes every 7 to 10 years, I don't feel the current system is working well. I know most our laws today are written by Lobbyists. We need Oversight, Transparency and Accountability, we have none for our government!
Who was living off their house, Most people I know used the equity to pay off medical bills and fix their car, No doubt people did foolish things but this economic disaster was engeneered.
Shroommduke 9 months ago
@FactualSolutions zetigeist is a good awakening, however the author of that is a compelte socialist, and needs to embrace capitalism
bajoverga 1 year ago 9
@bajoverga - hey pal - i know what you mean - i first though the same thing until i had a chance to check the videos after zeitgeist 2 - i can't blame you for thinking like that - all i can say is that there is nothing to do with capitalism, socialism, communism or any other form of "ism".
got to:
the zeitgeist movement dot com
check the other vids and see for yourself what a resource based economy is about
:)FS
FactualSolutions 1 year ago
@FactualSolutions are you stupid or is it that you just dont like to think on your own ? take a new look at that zeitgeist crap do you want a fucking laptop PC to run the swow ? HA HA HA HA HA HA ha ha ha uuuuu...........
kixdirtsevin 1 year ago
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@kixdirtsevin - you are clearly misinformed pal.
I am glad to say that the SOLUTIONS presented in both videos are already being applied and they have already been proved to work in the short and long run. Check for yourself or ignore the facts - it is up to you pal - what you think doesn't change the facts.
youtube "Awakening 1/4"
got to:
the zeitgeist movement dot com
check the other vids and see for yourself what a resource based economy is about.
:)FS
FactualSolutions 1 year ago
@kixdirtsevin - you are clearly misinformed pal.
I am glad to say that the SOLUTIONS presented in both videos are already being applied and they have already been proved to work in the short and long run. Check for yourself or ignore the facts - it is up to you pal - what you think doesn't change the facts.
youtube "Awakening 1/4"
got to:
the zeitgeist movement dot com
check the other vids and see for yourself what a resource based economy is about.
:)FS
FactualSolutions 1 year ago
@FactualSolutions i have and what i read and watched is why i say not me . not over my dead body. out of the pan and in to the fire...NO WAY
kixdirtsevin 1 year ago
@kixdirtsevin - again - what you think or do does not change what is already going on.
Take care pal
:)
FS
FactualSolutions 1 year ago
@FactualSolutions
What about the "Economic Calculation Problem"?
Could you point me to any academic studies or publications from the Zeitgeist Movement or Venus Project on this subject?
All I could find is this
RBEF
The link below is to the RBEF's own forum, the topic is economics.
As a Resource Based Economy requires some discussion on economics, I look forward to the first post.
Resource Based Economy Foundation: discussion on Economics?
Remove brackets:
tinyurl(.)com/EcoTumbleWeed
swiftysmithuk 1 year ago
@swiftysmithuk - what i can tell you in advanced it to not confuse the Resource Based Economy Foundation with a Resource Based Economy from jacque fresco.
To know more about the Zeitgeist Movement or Venus Project i strongly recommend you watch the videos posted on the zeitgeist movement dot com
- "Awakening 1/4 " -
- "Zeitgeist Activist Orientation Guide Video" -
- "Our Technical Reality" - etc.
also visit the venus project dot com
:)
FS
FactualSolutions 1 year ago
@FactualSolutions
Thanks for the guidance, I have already watched the video's and visited the websites, so I'm familiar with the vision presented, but now I am trying to find any academic studies or publications from the Zeitgeist Movement or Venus Project on the economic foundation of it's utopian vision.
Specifically, "The Economic Calculation Problem".
After all, if this has not been solved, any possibility of a centrally planned resource based economy working is zero.
Thanks
;-)
swiftysmithuk 1 year ago
@swiftysmithuk - hey pal - i got your point - you can find some of their publications on their main website - go to the tab "comunicate" - and choose the last option "newsletter"
You wont find any topic relating a RBE as an utopian vision and...the rest you can read by yourself.
:)
FS
FactualSolutions 1 year ago
@FactualSolutions
Zeitgeist should be watched for the information but their solutions arent practical you dont give power to few committees and individual
Technology will change social problems as long as individuals produce and consume on their own restricted by the constitution to uphold voluntary contracts,
They have a warped Star Trek out look where in you can make resources out of nothing abolishing money as a tool to be manipulated by "profit"
europa 1 year ago
FactualSolutions 1 year ago
@FactualSolutions
I've seen it they have good points but absolute power absolutely corrupts, its a cliche that has lasted the entire human condition for a reason it speaks truth.
The want resources to be allocated by scientific committees science is a theory and approach to solving the question why.Humans, with all the pros and cons of a human. Humans react to fear and desire and they can be manipulated.
Power structure should be small, local and to a minimal up held by private property.
europa 1 year ago
@europa - interesting comments - i strongly suggest you to watch other videos produced by TZM to get a clearer idea of what a resource based economy is about and how it works (and i don't mean to be rude by saying that, by the way...but people use to watch Z2 and think they know everything about a RBE) go to the zeitgeist movement dot com to know more about - watch the videos posted there
:)
FS
FactualSolutions 1 year ago
@FactualSolutions
it also blands the human condition the best art alone has come from human suffering and triumph,... emotion arcs
It wipes out individualism and it implies conformity, a dictatorship
and freedom of choice is diminished as well
you need to watch the philosophy of liberty on my channel
private property is the only means to freedom to work and own what you produce
productivity, leads to the very technology you implore competition leads to the most efficient approach
europa 1 year ago
@europa - hi again - yes - i did watch " philosophy of liberty" - i know that vid, i went to their websites and sent it to several friends i have in different countries as they have the vids in different languages - but again - you mentioned about "work and own what you produce" about "competition leading to the most efficient approach" - i strongly advise you to watch "Awakening 1/4" on youtube...just to be aware of some facts that you may be missing so far ; it is just info pal, nothing more
FactualSolutions 1 year ago
whaaaat.... that's not tom woods
AndyMH182 1 year ago
@AndyMH182 Haha! You mean this dude isn't even Tom Woods? That's rich! LOL This anti-war crap is getting old, really. Neville Chamberlain couldn't pull it off, and Austin radio can do no better. BTW, quoting Kudlow? Even HE says that he has no clue! LOL
Icriedtoday 1 year ago