VOR/DME ARC Runway 35L Approach at Congonhas Airport (SBSP)

[thelebzeb]

Very nice flying Captain! a question? in tancontin MHTG/ the last turn on final RWY02, can we use,it as ARC or its just step bank to line on the RWY? Thank you.

[FSX404]

@thelebzeb

No arcs, that last turn at MHTG is completely 100% visual, you just have to make adjustments on the spot as you're flying it.

[thelebzeb]

@FSX404 Understand! thanx.

[santgil]

How can you be so amazing? =]

[FSX404]

@santgil

Well, there once was this amazing....

LOL, I just talk man, and you guys seem to like it for some reason.

[santgil]

@FSX404 You're just a great teacher. This is the reason.

[mneoud]

Another great tutorial, as always. Thank you for your excellent contributions

[janujan995]

@FSX404

But, did you use 20 degrees of bank for 160 knots to turn 10 degrees and keep the DME at 8?

[FSX404]

@janujan995

I didn't really pay attention to the exact bank, don't focus on the wrong things, there is too much stuff going on during an arc to be worried about the exact bank (BTW, you never go more than 25-30 deg with passengers).

The exact bank angles are more important during timed turns, or course reversals (procedure turns).

Each approach is unique in its own way, that is why a lot of experience is needed for someone to be a commercial pilot, just knowing something is not enough.

[janujan995]

@FSX404

Were these all half-standard rate turns?



[FSX404]

@janujan995

not really, you're only turning 10 degrees at a time, SR Turns (or half SRT's) are more important during course reversals and procedure turns. 10 degree turns are too small for you to worry about making them half SRT's.

[cantore98]

Isn't this the runway where TAM Airlines Flight 3054 crashed?

[FSX404]

@cantore98

Yes, this video was a request by someone in Brazil because of that crash. I used the opportunity to do an arc approach at the same time.

[vfr802]

You have the gift of piloting and instructing. Fantastic job!

[1216saab]

Are you a real pilot? If not,you should be.

[natofsx8]

it's easy,it looks hard,but is soo simple! but that IAC is so old!! but still a nice tutorial!

[MrNeery]

@FSX404 I apologize if I am asking too many questions, but what is the difference between course (CRS) and heading (HDG)?

[zashley10]

I am just starting my instrument training and this helped a lot. Thanks!

[Seal552]

Are you making the turn onto the DME arc manually?

[FSX404]

@Seal552

All my flights posted are manually flown, but you can use the AP.

[Seal552]

@FSX404 O ok thanks for the help with the video it helped a lot.

[FlyUPS767]

Awesome toutorial!!!!!!!!!!!! Much appreciated. You're like the best FS toutor ; )

[FlyUPS767]

Yes! I finally did it! 

[lanejanlandonmorgan]

I am an instrument rated pilot. Great tutorial. Good to see another pilot go through the steps on a DME arc.

[norbertmocsnik]

Useful as always! Thank you!

[dancewiththedevil]

thank you very much for that video!

[deadman084]

fraps or whıch program dıd you use?

[FSX404]

@deadman084

Fraps for screen capture, but the editing and graphics are done in Premier Pro and Photoshop

[deadman084]

@FSX404 thıs vıdeo and other videos which are made by you ,are amazıng..

[TeamLeftMatch]

In real life is this approach use without autopilot?

[FSX404]

@TeamLeftMatch

It really is up to the airline to set up the autopilot use rules, but most probably the pilots would use the AP for this approach.

But I know what you are really asking and the answer is NO, you may NOT use the AP when doing this approach. It is the flight sim, and no one should use the AP below 10,000 feet.

[magrathean0]

@FSX404 I have found the AP usefull to give me some idea how the plane SHOULD be flying as apposed to the unpredictable, erratic behaviour it exhibits under my control. Close observation of the ap allowed me to discover the concept of trim,. What a revalation that was!

[FSX404]

@magrathean0

LOL, you discovered trim because of the AP, now that is funny.

You can't even fly a C-172 without a trim in real life, you'd wear yourself out in 15 minutes. In a 182, you'd wear yourself out in 5 minutes, if that, LOL

Folks....USE TRIM

[TeamLeftMatch]

@FSX404 hey, when on final approach to a runway (when doing a vor approach), is it normal for the VOR indicator to not give you the perfect angle of the runway? Like hewn i do a Vor approach and i have the runway in sight, my Vor indicator is a bit to the right of me

[conradcpt]

Brilliant! Well done!

[vcomvp]

Another great tutorial. Would love to you do one on constant speed props.

[shantanudutt]

Nobody could have explained Flying a DME arc easier.

FSX404 amazing video.

[gflyer95]

Outstanding video, again. Great DME/ARC tutorial, especially that thing with 5 and 10 degrees. Hope to see more videos and tutorials. You could try to do IFR tutorials, now that you´ll be or are an IFR pilot.

[justbeentubed]

Once again, another great tutorial.

Now I have to go see if I can do it as well as you just did.

Look forward to the next one.

[Shadow5549]

Fantastic! This has always been on my list to learn better. Thanks very much!

[johnrblanks]

Fantastic tutorial, as always. Thanks for posting this for us.

[Retro3433]

Outstanding job! Great instructional video on the DME Arc.

[1234av8tor]

can you practice this on any airport that has a vor

[FSX404]

@1234av8tor

Yes you can if that VOR has a DME (not every VOR has DME capabilities)

Once you get good, I would suggest trying out the missed approach on the Pristina (LYPR) VOR/DME Runway 35 or 17 approaches. LYPR has some of the best missed approach arcs in the world.

[ernestoc2003]

@FSX404 Yes, doing the MAP on all four Pristina approaches seems pretty challenging. I will definitely try them out.

In FSCHARTS you can find the Pristina approach plates guys.

Thanks for the tip FSX404!

[ernestoc2003]

Great tutorial. Using the VOR2 needle and doing 10º turns, really gives you a more coordinated turn around the arc and also a more accurated mental image of your current position, the VOR and the arc. Thank you for sharing that. And congrats on passing your IFR exam! I'm learning a lot with your tutorials!

[aviationman777]

brilliant video! thanks for taking the time to make it!

[sky110011]

thanks too much thanks FSX404

[whiteTiger941]

ah runway 25 L, it's not a runway airline pilots enjoy landing on! Oh and how did you get the CDU (13:42)?

[FSX404]

@whiteTiger941

I believe it is "shift + 5" on the Wilco Airbus series.

[whiteTiger941]

@FSX404 thanks

[OlDirtyBond]

Brilliant as always FSX404.. But no outside tower view at the end. :( . You always use to do put that.

[FSX404]

@OlDirtyBond

I was so busy trying to make sure I capture the flight path on this one that I messed up and exited the flight after looking at the flight path, before I could record an outside view.

[UkraineStar77]

and BTW, I never heared about an arc or flew one, I'll trie it with the NGX.

[SavaMarkovicPilot]

Nice! Hope your doin' OK.

[UkraineStar77]

I'll definately trie this out ;)

great as always ! :)

[barramundi10]

nice vid actually- more intense this approaches then say an ils.

[yekane1]

very cool, is there any chance you could do a YPPH Perth tutorial like this? would be awesome

[rpg481]

thanks for this tutorial its very good