Major De Seversky's Ion-Propelled Aircraft

[discountbrains]

I have watched a number of these lifter videos and have noticed that they instantaneously lift off when the power is turned on. A helicopter takes many seconds to generate enough air current to lift off. Also notice that if the lifter becomes tilted it rights itself to the vertical direction. If its motion was due to ion wind alone it would continue in the same direction.These are revealing observations; watch the videos and see what I'm talking about. This is proof something is going on here.

[OttoBelden]

I have a video that I made of one of these in my Schlieren setup at home. It's clear that there is a lot of air moving down toward the foil electrode. If your interested check out my video "ion lifter Schlieren experiment" on my channel. I didn't notice any anti-gravity while making the video ;-) - Otto Belden

[msaint2326]

cool, now we just need a battery that's as light as a feather!

[ZionistWorldOrder]

The elite are flying around in UFOs over our heads! What other conclusion can i reach seeing that these technologies were known a century ago, and some pig the likes of J P Morgan took all this kind of advance along with Teslas stuff and everything else they could suppress. Just imagine it though, in the hands of the filthy elite, for over a century. Is it any wonder we see more and more of these UFO's? There propably are aliens, but there certainly are MEN inside most of those solid objects..

[efahrenholz1]

@ZionistWorldOrder UFO's could not possibly utilize ion lifter's. It is primitive technology and completely useless in a vacuum (space) as it needs gasses to ionize and create the electron separation. Ion propulsion motors work on a similar principal, however they use neutral charged gases like xenon to work in a vacuum. It requires a fuel source, rather than relying solely on an electrical current.

[saintveil]

@efahrenholz1 - Something which might interest you is that the Vasimr Plasma Motor videos point out that you can focus and direct the thrust using magnets. Magnets also used to deflect/shield heat. Ionic Earth liftoff is already current, no vacuum, according to NASA LaViolette's books. The videos are here: v=lNda58_Vj80 --- v=p9keDlPmFuY

[saintveil]

@efahrenholz1 - According to Moray King's work, a rotating plasma produces a gravity-vector. Orient the vector away from the Earth's surface and you have levitation, or degravitation, earth lift-off.

[ZionistWorldOrder]

@efahrenholz1

No offense intended but you are preaching the school book lie. The renowned independent french researcher Jean Louis Naudin, google him, will provide you with many a video of "ion wind" models isolated with plastic bags around yet working. The Electrogravitic effects displayed have been tested in NASA vacuume chambers, watch video "Gravitec testing at NASA LEEIF of asymmetric capacitor in vacuum 4" Gravitec is a company among many. I sympathize with the scepticism.

[Yigadurf]

@ZionistWorldOrder

Ion lifters dont work in space

they need gasses

I know this comment is about a year old

but i felt like trolling today

[ZionistWorldOrder]

@Yigadurf

thats my point, these are not ion fart wind like the idiots on Myth Busters called it because they couldn't explain it, it's called by some Electro Gravitics, the company Electrogravitec Inc i think used the best vacuum chambers NASA has and tested them in vacuum. Jean Louis Naudin even experimented with enveloping these models in plastic, they still float, this has nothing to do with ion wind except that the field propels gas as well whenever that should be in it's proximity.

[10DieterJamin]

Fantastic Technic.

[JonDeth]

What's makes his design so brilliant and unique is it's stability and if you see other demonstrations of it, it was navigational.

[adrastea99]

I like how he shamelessly steals Teslas idea

[903harman]

i fucking know what a fucking dick! thats tesla's flying machine! fuck that dick!

[jakeywakeytypebloke]

@adrastea99 As do most people in similar fields :)

[personzorz]

My guess is that something using ion wind, like this obviously does, to provide lift would require a LOT of power to stay airborne and stable outdoors and might be flimsy in the face of wind. A valid concept but the problem is in the engineering.

The mechanism for it generating lift is simple and has nothing to do with inertia or antigravity, just to clarify for those below me in the comments.

[Beamshipcaptain]

You have not done the experiments, as I and others have, nor been published on this work, as I and others have. This effect occurs in EVERY ATOM of the device at the same time, instead of a "freight-cars" effect as with all other forms of propulsion. So there is no inertia in craft or payload; response to the applied field is UNIFORM. Try it yourself. Until you do, you are debating in a vacuum. This uses pennies a day to loft a 6-footer, 50-gram model all day long.

[personzorz]

I don't doubt that it lofts a 50 gram model all day long - however, it does so via ion wind, as evidenced by the motion of the smoke. It has nothing to do with modification of inertia, or antigravity, just charging air and making it move against the electrodes downwards. A completely valid and cool concept, but people seem to be getting the wrong idea about WHAT it is.

[Beamshipcaptain]

This is ion-craft. Fthust is weak, and power-consumption is much greater than the Biefeld-Brown patents, which predate this patent.

[Beamshipcaptain]

No, just THIS device flies by ion-wind. It is flying with 30,000 Volts at 3-milliAmps, I have the article and patent. But TT Brown's patent and my Beamships are MUCH larger, and fly with more upward or sideways force, with much less input energy electricity. Much more thrust, little to no ion-wind. No inertia.

[hypnotekk]

No inertia? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[user25119498503]

It uses pennies a day to "loft" a 6-footer, 50-gram model all day long? Those are impressive sounding figures indeed—until one realizes that 50 grams is the equivalent of about twenty pennies. Although this is likely to remain unimplemented at a meaningful scale, the effect itself is notable if only for its novelty.

[Beamshipcaptain]

You better believe the military has implemented it since the 1950s. And the Germans since the 1930s. htechnology is over 80-years old, Ive been working with it or nearly 20 years

[marktimmer2212]

thank you god for these people

may there names be written in the book of life

[NewsAndHistory]

I see what you mean. Thanks for telling me & others about this video.

[AcePilot101]

IAA paper by Yataaki Musha, Honda Research verified the Biefeld-Brown Effect.

There's no turning back now.

[Beamshipcaptain]

Takaaki Musha.

Ive posted equations from a couple of research papers which prove conclusive ly the force is many orders of magnitude more than ion-wind can account for, and ion-wind clearly has an upper-limit to thrust, so the force CLEARLY cannot be due to ion wind.

[ZionistWorldOrder]

Thank you for posting! Hey i hear rumours about electrogravitic effects employing a field envelope wherein inertia is cancelled.. anyone know anything about why & how?

[Beamshipcaptain]

That is quit correct. Inertia is due to NET CHARGE, not mass, or amount of material. Charge is separate from Mass. You can have charge, separate from mass, and charged mass. The vacuum is pure MASSLESS CHARGE, which nature taps to do work, usually by introducing coherence, such as a VORTEX, and CENTRIPETAL-action, with falling temperature-gradient. Read ORDER OUT OF CHAOS, by 1977 Nobel prize winner for chemistry, Ilya Prigogine.

[ZionistWorldOrder]

wow... massless charge... thank you!

[Beamshipcaptain]

Gravitational-mass stays same, but inertial-mass is canceled. By 1938, TT Brown had proven with scale model CIRCULAR BOATS, with charged-separated outer rim-segments where polarity could be reversed, directions could be instantly reversed, 90-degrees, etc., plants and animals on board felt nothing.

[Beamshipcaptain]

CHARGE is separate from mass. You have CHARGE, and CHARGED MASS.

INERTIA is due to *NET CHARGE* (electrostatics), not MASS, density or amount of materiel.

[Beamshipcaptain]

Read: ZUR EINHEITLICHTEN FELD THERIE, or the Unified Field Theory, von A. Einstein (1927), in several Prussian science-journals, and

POSSIBILITY OF A STRONG COUPLING BETWEEN ELECTRICITY AND GRAVITATION, T. Musha (AIAA).

[Beamshipcaptain]

Please read:

POSSIBILITY OF A STRONG COUPLING BETWEEN ELECTRICITY AND GRAVITATION, by Takaaki Musha

(Yokohama, Japan).

[Beamshipcaptain]

I have done Biefeld-Brown work for twenty-years, and been published in NEW ENERGY TECHNOLOGIES, INFINITE ENERGY,and THE JOURNAL OF NEW ENERGY (Vol 7, #1). Look at my data-table. TT Brown effect works in Vacuum better than air, Yuutaki Mushaa, and HONDA released researhc July, 2007, AIAA symposium. More independant confirmation.

[youngsinfo]

you need something that can power it with high output in a small area?

[Beamshipcaptain]

Betavoltaics, or one of our ALPHA piezoelectric units, and modified with additional-stages in output, removing some potting material from inside the piezoelectric-transformer, and using the new Lithium, manganese-3-cell, 2100 mAh power-packs. And a 5-foot Beamship Variation V.

[Damon123com]

BScaptin, electrons readily fly across vacuum, completing the circuit and drawing more power, not less. We already have high voltage in a vacuum inside TV sets and florescent lights and the evacuated tubes you mention and they all draw significant power. Vacuume = HIGH current flow and therefore HIGH power. Furthermore, the B2 bomber is powered by 4 General Electric F116 turbofan JET ENGINES. Your personality and the technology you are promoting are very cool, but the misinformation is not.

[Beamshipcaptain]

This is DE Sversky's patented IONOcraft. Really inefficient, and Watt-Wasting. The Biefeld-Brown patents produce more-thrust with less input-energy. De-Seversky's ion-craft has downwash, low-performance/thrust, and makes lots of NOISE. My Beamships are SILENT, have NO downwash, and the 6-foot Variation III uses only 50-60 watts and LEAPS into the air, whilst ioncraft is only 4-foot, and use 90-watts!

[hoser4]

No it isn't. Your lifter is another ion-powered craft, which relies on charged particles of air (and, thus, moving air) to fly. And, well, hate to say this, but moving air is noisy -- for what is sound, but moving air?

I have yet to see a lifter which is truely silent.

[Beamshipcaptain]

My Beamships are silent or Nearly science. They have more force that way, and not enough ion-wind to deflect a feather, but more thrust than any such device in history, so they are the largest ahnd heaviest in history, with the most force and historically low power-consumption. Why not try the experiment yourself instead of naysaying?

[Beamshipcaptain]

Whoops, that's what happens when you try to type whilst tired! I mean beamships are silent or nearly silent. You can give them a big inithal-charge to make them bounce the ceiling, and they hiss a little, ut then you can crank the variacs down and they still float, SILENTLY. What else have people seen and filmed, and 99% of the time, they are SILENT?

[Beamshipcaptain]

I point out that Jet-Car, and propulsion expert Bob Lazar (you can find name listed 1987 in the Meson Physics Lab, and Los Alamos, Dr. Teller, father of H-Bomb, got him hooked up with EG & G subcontractor, who were working out of Nellis. He knew nothing of Brown's or Searl's or Piggot's or ANY previous work! But, his description of tests of SPORT-MODEL describe EXACTLY Biefeld-Brown effect, and effects seen in my Beamships.

[Beamshipcaptain]

I dont sell LITERS. Mine are Beamships, and are award winning, and SILENT. Not enough ion-winfd to deflect a feather. If you adjust the electrode-gap for more-ion-wind, the thrust goes dow, and the 6-footer will NOT lift. When you adjust for maximum-power-efficience-airga­p, ion-wind, noise dissapears, but thrust goes thru the roof. Read my paper BEAMSHIP TECHNOLOGY. This is TT Brown Patent, NOT De Seversky's.

[Beamshipcaptain]

Please read THE US ANTIGRAVITY SQUADRON, and ELECTROGRAVITICS II, by Tom Valone, and SUBQUANTUM-KINETICS, by PA La Violette. Janes defense weekly admitted secondary system of B2 is electrogravitic. Carbon-tube leading edge, depleted Uranium Dielectric, and shoots negative space-charge out the exhaust. Read about it, dont debate uninformed!

[hoser4]

Please cite bibliographic references. Note: DU is a metal, and conducts electricity. It's far from a dielectric.

[Beamshipcaptain]

Janes DEFENCE WEEKLY. THE US ANTIGRAVITY SQUADRON, by Thomas Valone.

[Beamshipcaptain]

JANES DEFECE WEEKLY. THE US ANTIGRAVITY SQUADROn, By Thomas Valone, PhD.

[Beamshipcaptain]

Therefore you must increase the gap, and use much higher potentials, as TT Brown showed 50-years ago at Bahnson Labs in N.Carolina, or use SOLID-dielectrics, as NASA, and Hector Serrano (Electric-Rocket) recently were awarded US Patents for, based on vacuum-work. Yutaka Mushii at the AIAA symposium July '07 confirmed Biefeld Brown works in Vacuum bettr than ari, and is a huge breakthru in fueless space-drives.

[hoser4]

You know, I researched this, and was positively UNABLE to find any references you cited. Can you please give me: (1) The title of a publication that I can inter-library loan, (2) A specific page number, (3) A specific (set of) authors, (4) if a magazine, a year of publication and volume number? The most you've given me was hand-wavy references.

[Beamshipcaptain]

Have to use SOLID-STATE high K-factor dielectrics in Vacuum, or you will have to make spark gap MUCH bigger, and supply up to 100-150KV potentials to get movement with a vacuum and nothing between the electrodes to maintain DIPOLE SPACE-DRIVE effect. Reason Evacuated tubes are (were) used in electronics, before solid-state devices started appearing in early 1950s.

[Beamshipcaptain]

Ion-drives are WEAK by comparison, and need a reaction mass. TT Brown patents are DIPOLES. Look at B-2, Bomber: Carbon tube leading-edge, depleted uranium-dielectric (highest MASS and highest K-factor), and neg-charges shot out the exhaust, supplying 15-million-volt potentials. B-2 may be able to be sub-orbital. B-2 is Radar-Invisible when using TT Brown Drive.

[caleighfisher]

US Patent 3130945

check his other patents as well.

[caleighfisher]

it's not like this technology is bogus, they are well understood principles of physics. we just don't happen to use them right now.

[Beamshipcaptain]

YES, THey are well understood principles of physics. The device simply moves down a G-hill, that is created ELECTRICALLY. At high-potentials, high-energy electrostatic force-fields are IDENTICAL, identical, to a gravity field. The vehicle is always FALLING toward the area of high-positive-potential, and away from the potential. The saucer is the SURFBOARD, simply riding the electrostatic (EM) wave into infinity. THIS is the heart, of the question of electric-spacecraft.

[theinsane101]

did you see the wind greated by the crat or are you blind,,it has been proven this lifter as some call it does not work in vacuum,,hard vacuum:):):)(:):):):):):):

[Beamshipcaptain]

This is clearly an IONOCRAFT. It uses a lot more energy than Biefeld-Brown Craft, and a lot of ion-wind, thrust is correspondingly WEAK, and it will NOT work in vacuum. Two divverent craft we are talking about; two different effects. That is obvious. This craft uses 90-Watts for stable-hover (30kV @ 3 mA), and is only a 4-foot square! Now, compare power and size and weight to the Beamship (tm) Series Biefeld-Brown Effect craft (USP 2,949,550).

[Beamshipcaptain]

Compare the performance on theis craft flying with 90-Watts (30,000Volts @ 3 mA), versus 60-Watts max-power (40,000 Volts @ 1.5mA) for Beamships, with much larger size/weight. Performance even with much lower-power-levels is thru the roof, because gap-adjusted to make little to no-ionwind; paradoxically thrust is much greater, and you see they act like ELECTRIC ROCKETS, and jump right off the floor, or table, or grass, and go UP TO THE CEILING indoors, and to the extent of the tethers outdoors.

[alienlabs]

I was told the lifter technology wasn't working in vacuum... and I see here it is shown smoke as it runs down... that looks like ion wind to me? :(

I don't see smoke "falling to the upper wires" like the rest of the structure... I see smoke falling down as if the structure is throwing ionized air at the ground :\ Please someone check my logic here?

[Beamshipcaptain]

THIS IS NOT A LIFTER! This is Major DeSverskys patented IONOCRAFT from 1964, which was copied from some of TT Brown's 1960 patents, this device does not get FORCE from hi-energy electrostatics,it gets THRUST from inefficient and Watt-wasting ion-wind. If you get ion-wind with lifters, or the more efficient Beamship, they are'nt adjusted for max. force. If you RAISE the anode wire, and adjust for max-force, you use the LEAST input power, ion-wind goes DOWN;paradoxically FORCE goes way up!!!

[DeimosSaturn]

Now all they need to do is lift something that weighs more than a kilogram.

HINT: Ultra sound

[Beamshipcaptain]

Just adjust your power accordingly. My Beamship Variation III is six-feet,42-grams, and only needs 25.5 Watts for wightlessness. IONcraft is 4-feet accross, and takes 30,000 Volts DC @3 milliAmperes (90Watts). Compared to the Befeld-Brown effect, this is inefficient and sub-par. This will NOT work in a vacuum. BUT, the TT Brown effect craft WILL, and with far-less input power. TT Browncraft and my Beamships (tm) have THE MOST FORCE, and use the least power, when they have little to no ion-wind!

[DeimosSaturn]

LOL, just LOL.

[Beamshipcaptain]

Try it yourself, I'll show you how. Buy a Beamship kit and micro power supply from my website, or go to amazing1 dot com or my good buddy Tim Ventura's americanantigravity dot com, and my audio interview with Tim is there also. Have the balls enough to do the hard work, and there is absolutely no mystery. But, instead, 25+ years of hard study.

[DeimosSaturn]

I reiterate: LOL.

[Beamshipcaptain]

I rest my case. My work speaks for itself.

[HAL11000]

Make one that can lift 10 kilograms.

[Beamshipcaptain]

We are getting an efficiency of approximately .87 Watts/gram of ship and payload, so 10,000 grams of ship and payload would require 8,700 Watts of DC-energy. I don't want to test anything with that much power in my home lab. Also have to build or purchase a supply with that capacity. You need facilities for that. If you are at a University or commercial lab, and have the means, go for it. Until then, I will stick with safer,lower power devices. Knock yourself out.

[HAL11000]

Until then, its still a useless plaything.

[Beamshipcaptain]

Some useless plaything. Principle of it is a main propulsion system in the B-2 Bomber according to my frind Thomas Valone and Jane's DEFENCE WEEKLY. This technology will take us to the very stars, something that is impossible with Newtonian-Action-reaction Rockets! Like anything else in aerospace, first SCALE MODELS are built, before the manned, full-scale craft. Perhaps you have never herd of DRONES. Anyhow, this technology was used by US Govt, and SAIC-corp in 1971, and EG &G, to name a few.

[HAL11000]

Your claims are still unconvincing. If you want me to change my mind about the potential of electrogravitics, ask Dr. Valone for a electromagnetic simulation showing how these devices interact with their souroundings. It is said that the lifter for the B-2 bomber is the AUXILIARY propulsion system, not the MAIN propulsion system.

[DeimosSaturn]

beamshipcaptain is either a con-man, a total idiot, or...well those are the only real options. You can't be making an honest mistake of such huge magnitudes as he is. liar or retard.

[HAL11000]

I dont know what to think, enter 'Tom Valone interview (2005), free energy' on google video. Whats your opinion on it?

[DeimosSaturn]

BScaptain thinks there's such a thing as anti-gravity. What the video is talking about is in a nut shell, a hybridization of an ion engine and a jet engine. It's got nothing to do with free energy and everything to do with increased efficiency.

[HAL11000]

Did you see the Tom Valone's interview on google video?

[DeimosSaturn]

only the first five minutes. Is there something in there that says anti-gravity is real and provides actual evidence?

[HAL11000]

There is more to it. Watch the whole interview.

[DeimosSaturn]

answer the question. If the answer is yes, then I'll watch the whole thing.

[HAL11000]

He mentions a reson for the obscurity for this form of proportion. The answer is yes and no.

[Beamshipcaptain]

Everyone knows this is NOT antigravity, Fool! Do the research, do the hard work, and you will see the results. But you have a mental-block, that most Earth-humans have, that limits your knowlege, and willingness to gain more knowlege. So unnecessary.

[Beamshipcaptain]

THIS is an IONOCRAFT. Not an ELECTROKINETIC APPARATUS (asymmetrical condensor). It does not work in vacuum, and I have books FULL of antigravity and free-energy patents. Build some, as I did, because you cannot buy them in stores. Do the hard work as I did. Most people, even some scientists, are scared to death of hard work! Read Dr. Patrick Bailey's (INE) paper on the many methods of ANTIGRAVITY, some patented.

[Beamshipcaptain]

A MAJOR point in this form of "propulsion IS the increased efficiency. At least you got that part right. Please read my paper BEAMSHIP TECHNOLOGY, in the Journal of NEW ENERGY,Vol.7,#1 and also in July/Aug. 2002 NEW ENERGY TECHNOLOGIES magazine, out of St. Petersberg, Russia (Alexander Frolov). With LOVE, all things are possible. Never forget that.

[Beamshipcaptain]

Jean-Louis Naudin already produced such a simulation six-years ago. The fact that there is an electrogravitics system onboard at all is still under classification, as are all electrified air-foil or re-entry vehicle (ICBM) electrified nose-cones. I dont' want to change your mind about anything, I could care less what you or anyone thinks!

[DeimosSaturn]

*applauds* whoopdy shit and congratulations. Here's a cookie.

You're still full of shit and you're still a moron. There is no such thing as anti gravity and the experiments you are posing don't prove otherwise.

[Beamshipcaptain]

Why not DO the experiments and see for yourself? Are you afraid? Are you a Man? I know at least 25 scientists who say you're wrong, and books full of patents, and reams of theoretical work. I can only conclude that you are beingobtuse, and childish/oppositional. Your speaking in absolutes, without a shred of proof to back up your statements, is graphic proof of this kind of pathology. Just do the experiments. And help advance this aerospace methodologies!

[DeimosSaturn]

I'm a man. I know that a very BASIC understanding of physics and observation of reality tells me beyond the shadow of a doubt that anti-gravity is a violation of nature. Your third grade experiments are ionic breezes or they float because of magnetism. Go back to highschool. NASA is doing fine without your pseudo science.

[Beamshipcaptain]

My electrical engineer does not agree with you, and he has a degree in Electrical Engineering from RPI, in New York, and for 12-years has worked as payload specialist. We dont need NASA! Private-industry will get us into space cheaper,faster. Antigrav tested with P-11 craft at Edwards in CA, 1977. 1st US ANTIGRAV flight-SAIC corp in 1971. Roschin Godin,1997. If you've only basics of physics,be prepared to LEARN MORE. You speak in absolutes,never citing papers,or patents.

[Spookysr]

OK here's a recipe from 1966: You need (1) 12v car battery, (1) iron rod with a ball wielded to the front with sharp point on other and a HV wire wielded to it, and pendelum rig to hang it on, (1) old-fashioned car HV ignition coil, and a HV toggle switch. You can make the thing move back and forward on the pendelum rig. It was coined DIY ION ROCKET! This is old technology now! I wanna' see a CESIUM ROCKET rig!

[chronos1137]

volts isnt what kills you its the amps and theres barely any so at worst youl get burnt real bad

[Beamshipcaptain]

These are inefficient Ion-wind devices. I fly since the 1990s Biefeld-Brown3-foot flying saucers as per USPatent #2,949,550, and 3-to nine foot diameter, single-celled BEAMSHIP devices. My six-foot BEAMSHIP VARIATION III hovers at any height with only 60 Watts (40,000 Volts @ 1.5 Milliamps). 60-watt lite bulb is dim. The heavy 3-foot saucers go at 14-RPM with only 120KV at some microAmps. About 70 Watts. Generating hi-volages with small components and small batteries is easy.

[isferos]

if only satellite TV has not been invented then :)

[skicker68]

that video rocks

[conoba]

Tomorrow I will be getting my high voltage generator from the attic and go buy some plastic straws and aluminum foil. Silent solid state propulsion that does not defy any laws of physics. These devices are awsome.

[only1egg]

the proof is in the doing... try the experiment for yourself, then believe what you see with your own eyes