OFFERINGS OF AN ATHEIST 1.Logic and reason 2.What we know to be true. 3.Relief from all mysticisms and superstitions 4.Value of your only life not some posthumous life there is no proof of. 5.Time, you would have wasted on religion 6.Evolution, religion is holding us back as a species 7.Freedom from narcissism. 8.Freedom from delusion 9.Freedom from fear of going to hell 10.Freedom from being a part of the horrid history of religion
Atheism offers freedom from existance, once you die...that's all she wrote.
Oblivion, nothingness, no pain yes but no joy either, no sadness yes, but no happiness ...no further experiance and obtaining more knowledge good or bad...no fullfillment....total utter nothingnesss and outer darkness.
@oldgordo61 From natures perspective, perpetuating our species is our purpose, as it is for all life and that is why there is life. As for our consciousness, joy is our purpose, find joy in your unique consciousness and it will not be wasted.
If consiousness exist...how does then the capacity of knowing from wrong originate? Where does our moral compass come from? Why do most of us feel a sense of guilt when we do something wrong?
And if consiousness ends with death what is left? Memories of how joyful and well lived our lives have been?
Even memories of our lives from our surviving relatives/loved ones shall pass away.
@AntEyeTheist Where does empathy and caring come from then? Human beings by nature are a duality of opposing forces, with one side struggling to do the right thing the opposite side is subject to lusts, carnal desires and selfish pride... the natural man.
True religion comes when one who is a true follower of Jesus and puts away the natural man.
When society does away with God altogether and relies soley on the whims of individuals will be the day of its destruction.
@oldgordo61 A man carved his name in a stone and died and all those who had memories of him died and all that was left of him was the stone with his name carved in it.
@AntEyeTheist Even manmade artifacts such as a simple tombstone will crumble away and there will be nothing left to preserve the deceased one's identitity.
@AntEyeTheist I do celebrate life..I thank God for giving me daily breath, my eyes to see, my ears to hear and that one day I will see loved ones who passed away.
Does it not bother you in the least that some of your friends and loved ones have passed on never to be reunited..ever? Can you actually convince me that you are okay with that? Remember you are still here and they are gone. Can you even tell that to a parent who lost a child that will never be reunited with that child again?
@oldgordo61 Only while you live will you grieve for your loved ones.
It is only in this life, the only life we can be sure of, that you can reunite with your memories of them, triggered perhaps by something they once held, touched, made, wore or wrote.
I know it is hard to think that this is it, but until someone comes back from the dead and tells me otherwise, I must reconcile.
A lie is a lie even if everybody believes it and the truth is the truth even if nobody believes it.
@AntEyeTheist Well that is where faith comes in. At least faith gives people hope. Your alternative doesn't even give that...only an escape from existance one we die.
Almost everyone will fight for thier life....no one wants to die not even an atheist...Only a person with real suicidal thoughts would gladly embrace oblivion...but that is what atheism offers....because that will be the only thing that will relieve of thier pain if there is indeed no afterlife.
@oldgordo61 Faith is a belief in something you know isn’t true. What kind of offering is that?
Faith is an escape plan for reality.
Asking someone to give up their life for your cause is easier if you can convince them of an afterlife better than the one they are living. Religion and War have been great bedfellows
Your reconciliation with death lies with your ability to conceive of nothingness, once you are capable of doing that, death, is nothing to fear.
Atheism is indeed the *start* of an adult mindset, yet most atheists remain stuck at entry level, and fail to evolve into transhumanists. Transhumanism, not atheism, is the pinnacle of rational thought.
@TheHomelessCripple Faith in one's religion/beliefs with good works and the purity in one's heart can be a very positive thing and cause a mighty change in an individual's heart.
Faith can also be twisted into fanactism which all too often has tragic results.
Religion isn't the root of the problem it is the nature of the human heart...and how wisely or poorly we use our agency.
To choose to serve God or choose to serve the Devil.
1. Truth, people grow up and confront problems and give real solutions. No waiting for miracles.
2. Time, stop wasting time worshiping imaginary friends, time is priceless.
3. Love, love your wife, sons, family, friends, (not GODs) every day because you have them now, there is not heaven, there is not eternal life. Offers Real Love, you don't expect compensation in heaven.
4. Freedom, ask questions do not accept rules like sheep.
wait...theists didn't fight for their freedom? My country was founded on the freedom of religion and people died for it. You seem a tad insensitive and a bit judgemental. Not all Theists are held to any certain religion, or bound by any religious text. It seems you are Atheist, because you don't like certain or all religions and thats fine, but I feel God. We don't communicate through prayer or speech, we simply understand each other as we work toward the same ends.
So do you help other people just because you think you will be rewarded?
If your son was going to die and you were able to help him with a very big risk for your life, would you be blocked by the possible doubt of the inexistence of the afterlife?
gical programming that gives them fixed moral codes which are mostly based on their society's (former) religion, but which are not atheistic. The moral statement for every atheist who has stared into the abyss of emptiness which is the core of the worldview and dared to stare back is that "I am supremely important and my wellbeing is supremely important." Just think about the implications.
Wow, and you said you weren't judgemental? Atheism means not believing in a god, it does not mean a lack of belief in other things, it certainly does not mean that an atheist is no longer human. Religion has hijacked all that is good about being a human being and claimed it as its own.
Look at the most atheist societies in the 1st world, they are better off than the US,
"I am supremely important and my wellbeing is supremely important."
That is the theist worldview. Atheists don't believe there is a supreme being they can chat with, who takes an interest in the most insignificant things they do, who created this whole universe for them, who believe that a single action could either make it proud or disappoint it... Project much, do you?!
Atheists realize they are not the most important thing in the universe, you could learn a thing or two...
I am not saying that the atheist would say that he is supremely important in relation to the world, e.g., that he is the supreme being governing the world. What I mean was that if one does not believe in the afterlife, then the most important thing in the world for him must be his self, because with the death of the self, he loses everything. Or let me explain this in another way: What good is the rest of the world if you are not in it? What value does it have? What value do have the others?
Many people care about the end but dont give a moments notice before they were born. Does that mean what happened before you were born has no value too?
People need to stop trying to find meaning. Its like an empty ice cream cone. Understand how something came to be and the "why" will evaporate in a puff of arrogance.
Just comprehend your co-ordinates in space and it time and "meaning" for which you seek will give way to humility and awe.
People seek meaning naturally. I mean I did, even when I was a little baby. To deny that drive is to promote ignorance and to snuff out a part of our spirit. While living in the now is good, and so are humility and awe, they do can not fulfill the need to understand and know the meaning of our lives.
Atheism is the end of all hope and the absolute relativity and emptiness. Nothing has any value from the atheistic standpoint, save for the self. Atheism is thus a doom of any society of free individuals, because for an atheist who really acts of his beliefs, the others have no value compared to himself. I am not saying this to be judgemental. I am a believer in egoism, in a way, I believe our first duty is for the self. I just point this so that most atheists today operate on cultural and biolo
if atheism offers nothing then religion offers something. if the only point of religion is to offer something then it cant be true. especially since there are so many different religions.
I'm not sure why, but it won't let me leave a comment on the video.
First, I did not subscribe to myself 650 times, second, a lot of people don't show their subscribers, third, YOU MADE A FAKE ACCOUNT THAT WAS LIKE MINE, and now your going to tell me about fake accounts?
But what else should I excpect from a baby murderer rights atheist
ok, well first of all you have your subscriptions hidden as well, what ARE YOU hidding? I base my accusation on your video "evolution is not depressing" someone made a channel exactly like mine with a video that I had posted, now it could have been someone else but the only purpose of making a fake channel that looked like mine was for your video. Either someone you know or you made that account, and you didn't make it with the intentions of using it for anything.
I have privated my subs because a while ago a lot of them got attacked by an insane christian who had a grudge against me.
I didn't even find out that it wasn't your channel till a few days later (my screenreader reads buttler the same as butler), so don't try and put that on me. Seriously, I did not make that channel. Oh well, who cares, really.
You are pathetic, selling subs on Ebay, and your customers are pathetic too. If it's just about the subs, why even bother making vids..
I hide my subs the same reason you do, the same reason most people do, so I don't see how that is ammunition for you to use that I am being ""dishonest" when you do it yourself.
The sole purpose for that fake channel was for your video, will you at least admit someone you know or one of your subscribers made that channel?
People who buy subs are not pathetic. It is the same thing as buying air time on TV or promoting a product, the more subs, views, etc that u have the more people watch
1. How can you prove that? I can make the same claim against you, you're a hypocrite to the max.
2. Ok so what your saying is some random person saw my channel, made one EXACTLY LIKE IT, downloaded one of my videos, and the ONLY video they downloaded happens to be the topic for one of your videos.
3. I am not trying to promote myself, I am not trying to get views, when did I say that? Your hypocrisy and small mindedness is glaring.
2. So you want me to take responsibility for something that I didn't do? I told you, I don't know who did, and I agree, they seem to have made that channel just for that purpose, but I don't know who it was, and I can't take responsibility for something someone (who may or may not be a subscriber) does...
3. I just pointed out that getting a buttload of subs does nothing for your views...
ok well that channel was made the SAME day you uploaded your video,.
you said people who buy subs are pathetic. Most people who buy my subs are sellling a product or service, I rate and comment on their videos and get them discussed so that they are more likely to be seen. It is the same as buying air time on radio or tv
Ben, restating the same thing over and over again will not make me want to tell you that I had knowledge of or participated in any way in creating that channel. I already stated that it seems that this channel was created for that purpose, so what the hell is your point?!
I never ever said it was OK, I just said that I had nothing to do with it.
As for you making fake channels... It seems that you don't have a problem with it, whatever. Again, it's pathetic. But, whatever floats your boat, kid...
of course you wont prove you have real subscribers typical atheist. of course you believe we have a common ancestor with monkey so I wouldn't put it past you. We both know it was you that made that channel, you have nothing better to do.
I can think of no more expensive nor valuable asset than the fresh unique perspective that each new person brings to all humanity. To allow so many billions to be indoctrinated so brutally destroys more real wealth every day than all of the worlds' wars over all time.
Nature is immune to waste. But we needn't be. Let's look for ways to free children of the parasites carried by their parents. Our loss in incalculable.
i want to aks you something you seem really someone that things everything i have and answer for a lot of thing so if you let my : my question is when everything goes to the shit were do you hold your self ?i need a answer i am not tring to arguing wiht you but i need a advisse i hope you dos mind to give me one
if a multitude creates their own morals...then there is a multitude of concepts of what is "good". An atheist has to "learn to think on their own"...God does not help me "think". Adult mindset affiliated only to atheism = a concocted presumtion at best.
If Atheism offers nothing ...then that is the truth with which it holds...nothing.
Never associate science with Aetheism....
Aetheism is the disbelief in a God concept...NOT THE BELIEF IN DATA and the conclusive results of that RESEARCH.
what can I say? It's just wonderful!Atheistblindchick, you have succeded yet again!
And by the way, if I callculate my former grandfhater I should be third generation of atheist. Who knows if I'm lucky I have a couple more in the past. And I have also been to scotland for a whiskey tour. A nice country indeed! I love it, (or maybe it's the whiskey I love?Ha-ha)and for the bright woman sprouling around. A pitty I did not meet you back then.Looking forward to see more videos from you.Excellent
LOL if there were a heaven, then Sweden must be it... Albeit a bit too cold, much like where I live... Move Sweden closer to the equator and it'd really be heaven!
Good video. I would argue that some religious folks operate in the same vein. Liberal believers tend to hold their holy book as an equal with the moral codes of the culture in their home country. From an existentialist point of view, the agent making the choice of belief or disbelief accepts the precepts and consequences of their choice. Point is, religion offers as much nothing as atheism does just in a totally different sense.
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So many dishonest fallacies I don't even know where to begin with this. Atheism is rational? Atheism gives no reason for us to be rational at all, and is destructive of absolutes and can't justify TONS of things. Why can't people just accept that science will never answer the most important questions of life?
Yeah...Atheists offers nothing! Except that man is responsable for himself!
But also does almost every Religion since most say; that God gave man Free Will!
The problem with atheism is it doesn't offer a sense of community that a church were people may care for you, and validate you. Of course Atheism can start a church and aquire a sense of community and belonging, and validation as well, but wait a minute! It is not that what Religion does to begin with?
Actually I do not belong to any church, or go to services anywhere! However most people have a need to belong somewhere, I am not saying all do, but belonging to somewhere it is almost a Universal need. I am from this town, this state, this Nation, I belong to this club, this college, this is my Institution, my football team, my baseball team, my church etc. No doubt they may be chapters of atheist somewhere, of course I am not looking for one, but fail to see them around, unlike churches...
Religon is a dead thing Jesus is a real friend a humble friend who challenged set ideas.Without duress he forced people to think. Understand his life and what he meant for yourself - not what others tell you. You will find a real friend and have a heart that explodes with joy. I am a gay man so I have every reason to doubt The only human comparison I can bring is the onset of puberty - first orgasm. Suddenly the world is a different place when Jesus comes into your heart. Join the adventure.
The reason for that is because it come from people who believe themselves better than those who believe, and they pity us, and rather than tolerate and acept somebody who think, and feel different than themselves they go to childish atempts to change people's minds in to believe that they hold the Truth, like if Truth is exclusive to them!
Oh, well what we can do about that?
Maybe wait, and see them change when they may grow up!
I am an atheist myself, and actually, watching the video again, I think it made some spot on points. The only problem I had with it was some of its superiority speaking. Atheism is not necessarily the start of a mature, adult mindset. There's plenty of other outlets for infantile behaviour other than religion potentially.
Not only atheism is no necessarly the start of a mature mindset, but I believe rather than judge if you are an atheist or a religious person, or a if you belong to many other possible point of views, you got to judge individually, person to person, and then keept it to yorself! That is a sign of tollerance, and maturity, rather than attacking people's Faith indiscriminately, for no reason but to say I am better than you!
On "atheists have to learn to think on their own" whilst it is true that it isn't obligatory it tends to be thinking for yourself that leads to an atheist conclusion(although I have met some dumbass atheists).
On ancient wisdom-of course we all rely on ancient wisdom when it is wise but most of the crap in "holy books" is anything but wise and I feel no need to rely on it.
On atheism offering comfort you have a point.I gain a lot of comfort from not having a religious mindset.
On "religion offers the freedom not to have to think" why is it a crock of shit?If your told "believe this shit above all else" and you mindlessly accept that with no critical analysis then you have absolved yourself of the need to think.
On morals-Theres good and bad in all mindsets and we all develop our own moral codes whether we believe or not.
Anyone who thinks that cellos are anything other than a necessary evil when you listen to real instruments, like violins, is evil and should be hunted down.
Come on, ABC. Cellos?
Then again, I arrived at that myself, and could be wrong.
Jack was really reaching here it seemed. Truth over happiness? What truth would that be and why do I need to provide anyone with anything? It sounded to me like he was seriously asking what was wrong with being blissfully uninterested, placated and unwilling to be open to the possibility that the world is more difficult and unexplainable than religion makes it out.
As the human race learns about the reality in which it exists superstition is lost, and is replaced with insight.
Alchemy became chemistry.
Astrology became astronomy.
Etc.
Atheism is not a thing, it is an idea. Actually, its not even an idea, its a response to an idea -- a rejection of ancient beliefs, and naive wonderings.
It is the transition from religion to philosophy.
Thank-you for your video ABC... now back to lurking I go.
Don't you just love it when the faith based try to use the old argument asking what does atheism have to offer? Very well said ABC. It offers nothing and I like that. That way there is nothing to be disappointed in.
There is this scene in "V for Vendetta" (in the comic, not the movie) where V is standing in front of a statue of Justice before eventually blowing the statue up. He's basically talking to him self.
He says to the statue basically that he used to admire Lady Justice from affar, that he used to love her, etc. But how he's in love with Madam Anarchy.
Anyway, he sats to the statue "She makes no promises and she breaks none".
I am betting that you spend more than a few minutes selecting your music. This music reminded me of some movie I watched about American indians. Goodness knows why. Very cool stuff though. Cheers..
You'd win that bet... Sound is very important to me, and since my videos lack a certain visual aspect, I really try and select the music that expresses the sentiments I want to convey...
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Atheism offers me truth and freedom to think for myself. I always found the thought of a deity or the concept of a heaven/hell terrible. Maybe it's because I grew up in a secular environment and am used to just living without a concept of god.
Justinfh2point0, now how do you suppose that? The whole point on one of the sides (the atheistic one) in this matter is NOT to let your subjectivity supersede what's true about the world.
The Atheism Offers Nothing "criticism" continues to bleed, and this particular hack-and-slash was set to beautiful music. Great video, Atheistblindchick.
That all sounds very nice, ABC, but it's also a load of croc. Atheism is no such thing. Atheism does no more guarantee critical thinking than religiousness guarantees belief in elves. Atheism is the lack of a belief in gods. It doesn't mean that you can't be a moron, doesn't mean that you can't be ignorant, doesn't mean that you can't be an asshole. Atheism means one thing, and one thing only.
I think if there ever was a person who'd love a promise of an afterlife, that would be me. If I'm somehow wrong, I may well be the happiest person to ever enter hell since I find the prospect of it much more appealing than disappearance.
All that said, no matter what an illusion offers, I find it difficult to muster the sheer power of doublethink to make myself believe it; nor the interest in doing so for the sake of some false promises. I'd rather be right than comfortable.
It's not a counter argument to your excellent video, just a thought ... The security blanket makes Linus from the Peanuts the gentle genius he is, in spite of the endless ridicule he's facing because of it. Maybe for some, your Promethean perspective is perfectly suited. I however think that human beings are "social narrators", which is why we seem to need some kind of shared narrations. Do I understand you correctly by assuming that you think that atheism has no such narratives to offer?
We as "Pan Narans" need our stories, true. Atheism has no such narratives to offer, and it should not, since it cannot and should not ever take the same position any religion has/had...
However, society itself, and many other social structures can provide this very same framework for these stories, it isn't just religion that offers this...
In my mind, Hollywood could be regarded as such a "structure", yes. What makes Hollywood - just to take it as an example -preferable to the Vatican, to just take another? They both offer show and meaning ... Are you, as a mature atheist, critisiing Hollywood, too? Or do you think that any story without overtly religious symbols is ok, however delusional it gets, otherwise?
As long as it's understood to be a story, I have no problems with either... It becomes dangerous when these stories are told as absolute truth, and believing or not believing this has severe consequences, as it has had and still does...
Religion muddles the line between reality and fantasy, between fact and fiction, and creates generation upon generation of wishful thinkers when we should have practical thinkers...
Sorry to ontradict, but there is more than one tacticts to become a dominant ideology. The claim to absolute truth is naive, agreed. But again, please reread your definition of Religion. For the sake of my point, compare it to that one:
Hollywood muddles the line between reality and fantasy, between fact and fiction, and creates generation after geeration of wishful thinkers ... I fail to see any essential difference re the functional rôle they play.
Have people been killed, maimed or tortured because they liked Star Wars better than Hancock? No, this is the domain of religion...
Are people hanged because they think Brokeback Mountain is a good movie? No, again this is the domain of religion...
Have people flown aeroplanes into buildings because they hated the remake of King Kong? No...
You either underestimate the powerful hold that religion has on people or overestimate what Hollywood has to offer... Not talking about crazy stalkers btw
I don't think I do either, but then, I shall think about it. Dysfunctioal myths might well effect people in the way you stated, although I think your descritption is a tad too reductionistic. Surely, in a cosmos where Patriarchy, Exploitation, Xenophobia, Chauvinisms et al are leading stars, one cannot solely blame Religion for the numberless atrocities humans have committed against humans. Or would you think that religion forms the root of all evil?
You spoke much of what I feel. I argued that atheism does in fact give nothing because there is nothing to give. That is the beauty of it. That is its virtue.
If I were sold a lie, say a retirement home with a beatiful beach in the bahamas, and I bought it, site unseen, I could be happy knowing that I would retire there someday. Let's say that those deeds that were sold to me were fake and I died before retiring. Does it matter it was a lie? I'd still say yes.
Awesome video. I had the same thoughts myself. What I still don't get from Jack's video though is, 1) why would you need to be offered something in the first place, and 2) even if, as atheists, we're supposed to be offering something, what should it be?
1. because this is what any religion does? You offer the people something they feel is lacking, to draw them in... And people love it, because it puts the responsibilty for life in the hands of a "wise" and "benevolent" entity, and not their own?
2. I think religion has pretty much cornered the market on that one, there isn't much left to offer... Freedom perhaps, but that is never given...
You've pretty much hit the nail on the head on those. I already had answers in mind when I asked the questions, but I like yours better. Essentially though, and this is what I said in my response to Jack, it's a belief, not a used car. You should be judging your beliefs on their validity, not the "special features" that may come with them.
Oooooh great video... the next poem I'm posting has a few lines that sound like they could have come out of this.... spooky... I swear I wrote it years ago! Great video...
"Everything that atheists hold true, they come to on their own".
"To be an atheist is to be skeptical".
"Atheism is the start of an adult mindset".
All statements that comply with the fact that atheism isn't the default position. But not less than a week ago you picked me up on one of the points in a video and disagreed with me on that very fact. Have you changed your mind, ABC?
I was born an atheist and as I grew up, I defined my atheism in my own way, skepticism and independent thought (which is necessary, since there are no pre-packaged answers) inevitably leads to a more adult mindset...
Absolutely. You see I tend not to debate theists very often any more; the constant banging of one's head against the proverbial brick wall has resulted in one too many headaches. However, often the same can be said of atheists too as I have come to realise. I'm sure that we won't get to that point though. I will be making that video I mentioned soon and will await your response there.
This is one of the problems of terminology that lead to confusion. A baby is an atheist and a philosopher can be an atheist. Both hold the main criterion, lack of belief in God. However the philosopher, who can justify his position in the face of opposing claims holds a more specific atheistic position, that holds the characteristics Abc mentioned. As long as the second definition lacks its own term the confusion will continue.
A lack of of belief in a god is not a thing therefore it cannot be atheism (which is a thing). If a baby lacks a belief in a god then so does a rock and therefore that is an atheist also. I've made a whole bunch of videos on the subject covering the set theory and formal logic problems that arise from making the mistake that you just made. If you wish to correct me go ahead, but do it there once you have seen the whole argument. No one has been able to so far but I always relish fresh meat.
A rock would be an atheist if it was capable of thought, I suppose. I reserve the right to respond after I look at your videos, but I'm afraid you won't find much meat, I'm mostly fat and gray matter.
Yup, atheism sure is a thing! It's something I'm damn proud to have at my disposal and I'm proud of how I arrived at it. Saying that it is something you're just born with makes it kinda, well, meh, so what?
Darkness is indeed a thing also. If you say that darkness is merely an absence of light then you're not describing what darkness is only what it is not.
I almost forgot that paying attention to the actual definitions of words is an "appeal to authority" or majority. Or some such. And that we should define all words according to the rules of formal logic.
No, but bald, in no way EVER can be described as a lack of hair. Just to give an example of something in front of me, my computer lacks hair in it's entirity. Is my computer bald? No it is not as it never had hair in the first place. The only way that baldness can be succesfully described is as hair loss. That covers the fact that the something we're describing is supposed to have hair but doesn't. Loss and lack are not the same thing.
"bald, in no way EVER can be described as a lack of hair."
Sorry, but that's about the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. I know that you don't think that the dictionary can be relied upon for the meanings of words but you're pretty much alone in that stance. Hair loss leads to a lack of hair, which is accurately described as baldness. If you want to go through life fretting over whether or not that means that your computer is a bald or that rocks are atheists then that's your problem.
So is this the mantra you chant to yourself every night before going to bed?
philosophizer149 1 month ago
Commie bastards... :D:D:D:D::D i lold
Miqimus 6 months ago
That video pretty much sums it up...
nothing...but a waste of an existence.
Good luck selling that concept.
oldgordo61 1 year ago
this damsel is weak and should not pass her weak genes
Subz3ro247 1 year ago
Become an Atheist and get a 10% raise and an extra day off during the week.
AntEyeTheist 1 year ago
AntEyeTheist 1 year ago
@AntEyeTheist You forgot one..
Atheism offers freedom from existance, once you die...that's all she wrote.
Oblivion, nothingness, no pain yes but no joy either, no sadness yes, but no happiness ...no further experiance and obtaining more knowledge good or bad...no fullfillment....total utter nothingnesss and outer darkness.
Sounds more like a hellish inprisonment to me.
oldgordo61 1 year ago
@oldgordo61 If you can comprehend what nothing is, death is nothing to fear. -AntEyeTheist
AntEyeTheist 1 year ago
@AntEyeTheist
So is that all there is then?
If that is what is awaiting for us once we die..then what is the point of it all then?
Explain then if you can why are we even here?
There must be some sort of purpose to our existance or it is all an utter, total and complete waste.
oldgordo61 1 year ago
@oldgordo61 From natures perspective, perpetuating our species is our purpose, as it is for all life and that is why there is life. As for our consciousness, joy is our purpose, find joy in your unique consciousness and it will not be wasted.
AntEyeTheist 1 year ago
@AntEyeTheist
If consiousness exist...how does then the capacity of knowing from wrong originate? Where does our moral compass come from? Why do most of us feel a sense of guilt when we do something wrong?
And if consiousness ends with death what is left? Memories of how joyful and well lived our lives have been?
Even memories of our lives from our surviving relatives/loved ones shall pass away.
oldgordo61 1 year ago
@oldgordo61
I’m sorry to put the kibosh on your belief in duality.
Do you really believe that Argumentum ad Baculum is the only way to garner morality? That belief in itself is immoral.
Cause and effect and do unto others as you would have done to you, “Empathy”, is our innate morality.
Good men do good and bad men do bad, only with religion will good men do bad.
AntEyeTheist 1 year ago
@AntEyeTheist Where does empathy and caring come from then? Human beings by nature are a duality of opposing forces, with one side struggling to do the right thing the opposite side is subject to lusts, carnal desires and selfish pride... the natural man.
True religion comes when one who is a true follower of Jesus and puts away the natural man.
When society does away with God altogether and relies soley on the whims of individuals will be the day of its destruction.
oldgordo61 1 year ago
@oldgordo61 A man carved his name in a stone and died and all those who had memories of him died and all that was left of him was the stone with his name carved in it.
AntEyeTheist 1 year ago
@AntEyeTheist Even manmade artifacts such as a simple tombstone will crumble away and there will be nothing left to preserve the deceased one's identitity.
oldgordo61 1 year ago
@oldgordo61 Celebrate life!
AntEyeTheist 1 year ago
@AntEyeTheist I do celebrate life..I thank God for giving me daily breath, my eyes to see, my ears to hear and that one day I will see loved ones who passed away.
Does it not bother you in the least that some of your friends and loved ones have passed on never to be reunited..ever? Can you actually convince me that you are okay with that? Remember you are still here and they are gone. Can you even tell that to a parent who lost a child that will never be reunited with that child again?
oldgordo61 1 year ago
@oldgordo61 Only while you live will you grieve for your loved ones.
It is only in this life, the only life we can be sure of, that you can reunite with your memories of them, triggered perhaps by something they once held, touched, made, wore or wrote.
I know it is hard to think that this is it, but until someone comes back from the dead and tells me otherwise, I must reconcile.
A lie is a lie even if everybody believes it and the truth is the truth even if nobody believes it.
Sorry!
AntEyeTheist 1 year ago
@AntEyeTheist Well that is where faith comes in. At least faith gives people hope. Your alternative doesn't even give that...only an escape from existance one we die.
Almost everyone will fight for thier life....no one wants to die not even an atheist...Only a person with real suicidal thoughts would gladly embrace oblivion...but that is what atheism offers....because that will be the only thing that will relieve of thier pain if there is indeed no afterlife.
oldgordo61 1 year ago
@oldgordo61 Faith is a belief in something you know isn’t true. What kind of offering is that?
Faith is an escape plan for reality.
Asking someone to give up their life for your cause is easier if you can convince them of an afterlife better than the one they are living. Religion and War have been great bedfellows
Your reconciliation with death lies with your ability to conceive of nothingness, once you are capable of doing that, death, is nothing to fear.
AntEyeTheist 1 year ago
Atheism is indeed the *start* of an adult mindset, yet most atheists remain stuck at entry level, and fail to evolve into transhumanists. Transhumanism, not atheism, is the pinnacle of rational thought.
Parapon3ra 1 year ago
Yes, religion does offer people the ability to not have to think and that's what's wrong with it.
TheHomelessCripple 1 year ago 4
@TheHomelessCripple Faith in one's religion/beliefs with good works and the purity in one's heart can be a very positive thing and cause a mighty change in an individual's heart.
Faith can also be twisted into fanactism which all too often has tragic results.
Religion isn't the root of the problem it is the nature of the human heart...and how wisely or poorly we use our agency.
To choose to serve God or choose to serve the Devil.
oldgordo61 1 year ago
brilliant
MichaelSJLH 1 year ago
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Atheism offers:
1. Truth, people grow up and confront problems and give real solutions. No waiting for miracles.
2. Time, stop wasting time worshiping imaginary friends, time is priceless.
3. Love, love your wife, sons, family, friends, (not GODs) every day because you have them now, there is not heaven, there is not eternal life. Offers Real Love, you don't expect compensation in heaven.
4. Freedom, ask questions do not accept rules like sheep.
peace :)
acepanson 1 year ago
wait...theists didn't fight for their freedom? My country was founded on the freedom of religion and people died for it. You seem a tad insensitive and a bit judgemental. Not all Theists are held to any certain religion, or bound by any religious text. It seems you are Atheist, because you don't like certain or all religions and thats fine, but I feel God. We don't communicate through prayer or speech, we simply understand each other as we work toward the same ends.
EdwardMarshall1982 2 years ago
@MichalPtacnik:
So do you help other people just because you think you will be rewarded?
If your son was going to die and you were able to help him with a very big risk for your life, would you be blocked by the possible doubt of the inexistence of the afterlife?
Maicol912 2 years ago
gical programming that gives them fixed moral codes which are mostly based on their society's (former) religion, but which are not atheistic. The moral statement for every atheist who has stared into the abyss of emptiness which is the core of the worldview and dared to stare back is that "I am supremely important and my wellbeing is supremely important." Just think about the implications.
MichalPtacnik 2 years ago
Wow, and you said you weren't judgemental? Atheism means not believing in a god, it does not mean a lack of belief in other things, it certainly does not mean that an atheist is no longer human. Religion has hijacked all that is good about being a human being and claimed it as its own.
Look at the most atheist societies in the 1st world, they are better off than the US,
Atheistblindchick 2 years ago 4
"I am supremely important and my wellbeing is supremely important."
That is the theist worldview. Atheists don't believe there is a supreme being they can chat with, who takes an interest in the most insignificant things they do, who created this whole universe for them, who believe that a single action could either make it proud or disappoint it... Project much, do you?!
Atheists realize they are not the most important thing in the universe, you could learn a thing or two...
Atheistblindchick 2 years ago 4
I am not saying that the atheist would say that he is supremely important in relation to the world, e.g., that he is the supreme being governing the world. What I mean was that if one does not believe in the afterlife, then the most important thing in the world for him must be his self, because with the death of the self, he loses everything. Or let me explain this in another way: What good is the rest of the world if you are not in it? What value does it have? What value do have the others?
MichalPtacnik 2 years ago
Many people care about the end but dont give a moments notice before they were born. Does that mean what happened before you were born has no value too?
People need to stop trying to find meaning. Its like an empty ice cream cone. Understand how something came to be and the "why" will evaporate in a puff of arrogance.
Just comprehend your co-ordinates in space and it time and "meaning" for which you seek will give way to humility and awe.
TheFluffyDuck 2 years ago
People seek meaning naturally. I mean I did, even when I was a little baby. To deny that drive is to promote ignorance and to snuff out a part of our spirit. While living in the now is good, and so are humility and awe, they do can not fulfill the need to understand and know the meaning of our lives.
MichalPtacnik 2 years ago
@MichalPtacnik Hyper owned XD
DocStrange0123 4 months ago
Atheism is the end of all hope and the absolute relativity and emptiness. Nothing has any value from the atheistic standpoint, save for the self. Atheism is thus a doom of any society of free individuals, because for an atheist who really acts of his beliefs, the others have no value compared to himself. I am not saying this to be judgemental. I am a believer in egoism, in a way, I believe our first duty is for the self. I just point this so that most atheists today operate on cultural and biolo
MichalPtacnik 2 years ago
Beautiful. Thank you.
user422369 2 years ago
if atheism offers nothing then religion offers something. if the only point of religion is to offer something then it cant be true. especially since there are so many different religions.
errskin 2 years ago
Yay!!! "no need to think!!!" I would be ashamed saying that I am glad not having to think...
EvilFluff85 2 years ago
I'm not sure why, but it won't let me leave a comment on the video.
First, I did not subscribe to myself 650 times, second, a lot of people don't show their subscribers, third, YOU MADE A FAKE ACCOUNT THAT WAS LIKE MINE, and now your going to tell me about fake accounts?
But what else should I excpect from a baby murderer rights atheist
PresidentButler 2 years ago
I did no such thing! What do you base that accusation on?!
Atheistblindchick 2 years ago
ok, well first of all you have your subscriptions hidden as well, what ARE YOU hidding? I base my accusation on your video "evolution is not depressing" someone made a channel exactly like mine with a video that I had posted, now it could have been someone else but the only purpose of making a fake channel that looked like mine was for your video. Either someone you know or you made that account, and you didn't make it with the intentions of using it for anything.
PresidentButler 2 years ago
I have privated my subs because a while ago a lot of them got attacked by an insane christian who had a grudge against me.
I didn't even find out that it wasn't your channel till a few days later (my screenreader reads buttler the same as butler), so don't try and put that on me. Seriously, I did not make that channel. Oh well, who cares, really.
You are pathetic, selling subs on Ebay, and your customers are pathetic too. If it's just about the subs, why even bother making vids..
Atheistblindchick 2 years ago
I hide my subs the same reason you do, the same reason most people do, so I don't see how that is ammunition for you to use that I am being ""dishonest" when you do it yourself.
The sole purpose for that fake channel was for your video, will you at least admit someone you know or one of your subscribers made that channel?
People who buy subs are not pathetic. It is the same thing as buying air time on TV or promoting a product, the more subs, views, etc that u have the more people watch
PresidentButler 2 years ago
1. No you don't. You hide it because it would show all these sockpuppet accounts that are subbed to you...
2. I can't, since I don't know who made it, so I can't admit to anything.
3. Apparently, that doesn't seem to be working for you, eh? You have the subs, but not the views...
Atheistblindchick 2 years ago
1. How can you prove that? I can make the same claim against you, you're a hypocrite to the max.
2. Ok so what your saying is some random person saw my channel, made one EXACTLY LIKE IT, downloaded one of my videos, and the ONLY video they downloaded happens to be the topic for one of your videos.
3. I am not trying to promote myself, I am not trying to get views, when did I say that? Your hypocrisy and small mindedness is glaring.
PresidentButler 2 years ago
1. I didn't get 500+ subs in a day...
2. So you want me to take responsibility for something that I didn't do? I told you, I don't know who did, and I agree, they seem to have made that channel just for that purpose, but I don't know who it was, and I can't take responsibility for something someone (who may or may not be a subscriber) does...
3. I just pointed out that getting a buttload of subs does nothing for your views...
Atheistblindchick 2 years ago
ok well that channel was made the SAME day you uploaded your video,.
you said people who buy subs are pathetic. Most people who buy my subs are sellling a product or service, I rate and comment on their videos and get them discussed so that they are more likely to be seen. It is the same as buying air time on radio or tv
PresidentButler 2 years ago
Ben, restating the same thing over and over again will not make me want to tell you that I had knowledge of or participated in any way in creating that channel. I already stated that it seems that this channel was created for that purpose, so what the hell is your point?!
As for you selling subs, whatever...
Atheistblindchick 2 years ago
That I or anyone can make a fake channel to serve a purpose, I don't see why it is ok for that person to but not for me too.
PresidentButler 2 years ago
I never ever said it was OK, I just said that I had nothing to do with it.
As for you making fake channels... It seems that you don't have a problem with it, whatever. Again, it's pathetic. But, whatever floats your boat, kid...
Atheistblindchick 2 years ago
your subscribers are making fake channels, whatever floats their boat
PresidentButler 2 years ago
LOL
1. you have no proof that it was one of my subscribers.
2. even if it was, it's still just ONE of them
3. you are a sore loser...
4. again, I am NOT responsible for anything that someone else does.
4. At least I have REAL subscribers
5. This discussion is over on this video, take it somewhere else or shut up. And that doesn't mean a PM to me btw
Atheistblindchick 2 years ago
of course you wont prove you have real subscribers typical atheist. of course you believe we have a common ancestor with monkey so I wouldn't put it past you. We both know it was you that made that channel, you have nothing better to do.
PresidentButler 2 years ago
LOL Do you have any idea how much you sound like a sulking child?
You're supposed to be the grown-up FFS, you're a parent! Don't act like a 4yo...
Atheistblindchick 2 years ago
I can think of no more expensive nor valuable asset than the fresh unique perspective that each new person brings to all humanity. To allow so many billions to be indoctrinated so brutally destroys more real wealth every day than all of the worlds' wars over all time.
Nature is immune to waste. But we needn't be. Let's look for ways to free children of the parasites carried by their parents. Our loss in incalculable.
ananiasacts 2 years ago
i want to aks you something you seem really someone that things everything i have and answer for a lot of thing so if you let my : my question is when everything goes to the shit were do you hold your self ?i need a answer i am not tring to arguing wiht you but i need a advisse i hope you dos mind to give me one
orfe1110 3 years ago
if a multitude creates their own morals...then there is a multitude of concepts of what is "good". An atheist has to "learn to think on their own"...God does not help me "think". Adult mindset affiliated only to atheism = a concocted presumtion at best.
If Atheism offers nothing ...then that is the truth with which it holds...nothing.
Never associate science with Aetheism....
Aetheism is the disbelief in a God concept...NOT THE BELIEF IN DATA and the conclusive results of that RESEARCH.
hexusziggurat 3 years ago
Wise words. Five stars.
janfrie1988 3 years ago
Brilliant video. Its a good responce to propaganda put forward by some christians that athiesm is another belief system. IT OFFERS NOTHING, shesh.
tasidar25 3 years ago
offers an afterlife????? Are you mad? It offers nothing but lies and deceit. Charles Darwin lives. You are not very bright are you?
plonk220a 3 years ago
@plonk220a Charles Darwin is dead.
oldgordo61 1 year ago
what can I say? It's just wonderful!Atheistblindchick, you have succeded yet again!
And by the way, if I callculate my former grandfhater I should be third generation of atheist. Who knows if I'm lucky I have a couple more in the past. And I have also been to scotland for a whiskey tour. A nice country indeed! I love it, (or maybe it's the whiskey I love?Ha-ha)and for the bright woman sprouling around. A pitty I did not meet you back then.Looking forward to see more videos from you.Excellent
Lonlywolfnyfiken 3 years ago
Wow, that's one strong...Irish(?) accent. Good video. :)
iSOBigD 3 years ago
She might like haggis, single malt and claymore wielding, kilt wearing men! XD
Rationellskeptiker 3 years ago
That I might, yes...
Atheistblindchick 3 years ago
Been a while since I was in Scotland, not for the men, mind you, but for the haggis... nah!
I myself am a long bearded, axe wielding savage moose hunter, LOL, no stereotype here.
BTW I'll do you one better, 5th generation atheist, since you're the keener mind.
Rationellskeptiker 3 years ago
We have a winner! ;) Wow, but I bet it has to do with the fact that you're from Sweden... Plenty of atheists there, I believe...
I think I should like to live there for a while, and experience what it'd be like to live in a totally secular society...
Atheistblindchick 3 years ago
No you wouldn't,
We're gluttonous, selfless and amoral bastards, the lot of us. No christian virtues at all. XD
Rationellskeptiker 3 years ago
LOL if there were a heaven, then Sweden must be it... Albeit a bit too cold, much like where I live... Move Sweden closer to the equator and it'd really be heaven!
Atheistblindchick 3 years ago
Well it was heaven some odd 300 million years ago, but some berserker, or sumthin displeased Odin and lo and behold,
Here we are! Freezing our assbleeps off.
Rationellskeptiker 3 years ago
Atheists are EMO!
filida 3 years ago
o wow u are so ignorant
Antisyncretism 3 years ago
Good video. I would argue that some religious folks operate in the same vein. Liberal believers tend to hold their holy book as an equal with the moral codes of the culture in their home country. From an existentialist point of view, the agent making the choice of belief or disbelief accepts the precepts and consequences of their choice. Point is, religion offers as much nothing as atheism does just in a totally different sense.
opinionhead444 3 years ago
Wow! Great! Bravo! Probably the best vid I've seen re the "Atheism offers nothing" crap.
ILYIAB 3 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
So many dishonest fallacies I don't even know where to begin with this. Atheism is rational? Atheism gives no reason for us to be rational at all, and is destructive of absolutes and can't justify TONS of things. Why can't people just accept that science will never answer the most important questions of life?
braino2000 3 years ago
thats odd, the most important question in life for me is "if i let go of this apple, which way will it fall?" and science answered that for me.
driubi 3 years ago 2
Yeah...Atheists offers nothing! Except that man is responsable for himself!
But also does almost every Religion since most say; that God gave man Free Will!
The problem with atheism is it doesn't offer a sense of community that a church were people may care for you, and validate you. Of course Atheism can start a church and aquire a sense of community and belonging, and validation as well, but wait a minute! It is not that what Religion does to begin with?
Why bother?
cybercuichi 3 years ago
Why do you need a church to feel that you belong? Are you not human? Can't you feel you belong to the human race without a church?
ILYIAB 3 years ago
Actually I do not belong to any church, or go to services anywhere! However most people have a need to belong somewhere, I am not saying all do, but belonging to somewhere it is almost a Universal need. I am from this town, this state, this Nation, I belong to this club, this college, this is my Institution, my football team, my baseball team, my church etc. No doubt they may be chapters of atheist somewhere, of course I am not looking for one, but fail to see them around, unlike churches...
cybercuichi 3 years ago
Most atheists are humanists. Belonging to the human race is all we need.
Don't worry. There are plenty of athists out there.
ILYIAB 3 years ago
Worrying about plenty of atheist out there is the least of my worries, if at all!
As for most of atheist being humanist, that is a broad generalization, not unlike saying most religiious people are decent, and good human beings...
Besides, what make you think humanism is the exclusive domain of atheist?
cybercuichi 3 years ago
Well thought-out video Atheistblindchick.
5/5
Yes, religion offers everything that atheism cannot. Why?
Atheism is a rational, logical way of understanding the cycle of all life.
Religion, on the other hand, offers anything that the mind can dream up.
An afterlife for example is the greatest hope of believers which religion and it`s imagined god can offer.
Religion, in order to control it's believers, offers a fiery hell for non-believers.
Such is the imagination.
maurieer 3 years ago 2
Religon is a dead thing Jesus is a real friend a humble friend who challenged set ideas.Without duress he forced people to think. Understand his life and what he meant for yourself - not what others tell you. You will find a real friend and have a heart that explodes with joy. I am a gay man so I have every reason to doubt The only human comparison I can bring is the onset of puberty - first orgasm. Suddenly the world is a different place when Jesus comes into your heart. Join the adventure.
capacitor2427 3 years ago
Amazing video.
MichaelSwg 3 years ago
Bless your heart
flips300021 3 years ago
What a piece of shit, blanket statements and sweeping generalizations. I cannot believe this has so many 5 star ratings.
oliverscott2007 3 years ago
Oliver:
The reason for that is because it come from people who believe themselves better than those who believe, and they pity us, and rather than tolerate and acept somebody who think, and feel different than themselves they go to childish atempts to change people's minds in to believe that they hold the Truth, like if Truth is exclusive to them!
Oh, well what we can do about that?
Maybe wait, and see them change when they may grow up!
cybercuichi 3 years ago
I am an atheist myself, and actually, watching the video again, I think it made some spot on points. The only problem I had with it was some of its superiority speaking. Atheism is not necessarily the start of a mature, adult mindset. There's plenty of other outlets for infantile behaviour other than religion potentially.
oliverscott2007 3 years ago
Not only atheism is no necessarly the start of a mature mindset, but I believe rather than judge if you are an atheist or a religious person, or a if you belong to many other possible point of views, you got to judge individually, person to person, and then keept it to yorself! That is a sign of tollerance, and maturity, rather than attacking people's Faith indiscriminately, for no reason but to say I am better than you!
cybercuichi 3 years ago
Very good, very nice. Thanks!
fly44d 3 years ago
Very well done Atheistblindchick !!
noworkgroup 3 years ago
On "atheists have to learn to think on their own" whilst it is true that it isn't obligatory it tends to be thinking for yourself that leads to an atheist conclusion(although I have met some dumbass atheists).
On ancient wisdom-of course we all rely on ancient wisdom when it is wise but most of the crap in "holy books" is anything but wise and I feel no need to rely on it.
joeyoap 3 years ago
OK Simon-lets look at some of your points.
On atheism offering comfort you have a point.I gain a lot of comfort from not having a religious mindset.
On "religion offers the freedom not to have to think" why is it a crock of shit?If your told "believe this shit above all else" and you mindlessly accept that with no critical analysis then you have absolved yourself of the need to think.
On morals-Theres good and bad in all mindsets and we all develop our own moral codes whether we believe or not.
joeyoap 3 years ago
This is great. Except for the whiny cellos.
Anyone who thinks that cellos are anything other than a necessary evil when you listen to real instruments, like violins, is evil and should be hunted down.
Come on, ABC. Cellos?
Then again, I arrived at that myself, and could be wrong.
hairyreasoner 3 years ago
"Atheists have to form their own morals?"
Really? Hmm, I hear a lot of repetition from them. Some don't seem to have any actual morals.
"Atheists have to learn to think on their own."
There is nothing about a lack of belief in god that requires this.
"not relying on ancient wisdom lacking in wisdom"
You haven't demonstrated a lack of wisdom in ancient works. Many atheists DO look to ancient wisdom.
SimpleSimonSaid 3 years ago
"Atheism offers no comfort"
Ahh, hmmm, sorry but some are comforted by the fact that there is no fear of death.
"religion offers the freedom not to have to think."
Crock of shit. Absolute crock of shit soup.
SimpleSimonSaid 3 years ago
I could go on about nearly everything you said in this but you have already made up your mind about what is true about atheism.
SimpleSimonSaid 3 years ago
I agree 100%! BTW, I love your accent! :)
FinnHawk 3 years ago 3
Agreed on all counts.
DarkOnyx 3 years ago
I'll agree to love the accent, but not so much on the vid with 100% of it's....
lol
nvm.. ..
cant1be1original 3 years ago
Jack was really reaching here it seemed. Truth over happiness? What truth would that be and why do I need to provide anyone with anything? It sounded to me like he was seriously asking what was wrong with being blissfully uninterested, placated and unwilling to be open to the possibility that the world is more difficult and unexplainable than religion makes it out.
mconn2112 3 years ago
"Atheism is the start of an adult mindset."
Perfect.
As the human race learns about the reality in which it exists superstition is lost, and is replaced with insight.
Alchemy became chemistry.
Astrology became astronomy.
Etc.
Atheism is not a thing, it is an idea. Actually, its not even an idea, its a response to an idea -- a rejection of ancient beliefs, and naive wonderings.
It is the transition from religion to philosophy.
Thank-you for your video ABC... now back to lurking I go.
bam359 3 years ago 5
gr8 video , love your accent.
MickB0529 3 years ago
Of course atheism offers nothing it is not trying to make money.....so it doesn't need a product, unlike religion.
fantasy0coach 3 years ago 2
nice one ABC!
Fataalex 3 years ago
Absoluely magnificent
Uxoriouswidow 3 years ago
Fantastic. Not that Jack will ever understand.
rozeboosje 3 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
"Atheists have to form their own morals?"
Really? Hmm, I hear a lot of repetition from them. Some don't seem to have any actual morals.
"Atheists have to learn to think on their own."
There is nothing about a lack of belief in god that requires this.
"not relying on ancient wisdom lacking in wisdom"
You haven't demonstrated a lack of wisdom in ancient works. Many atheists DO look to ancient wisdom.
SimpleSimonSaid 3 years ago
"Atheism offers no comfort"
Ahh, hmmm, sorry but some are comforted by the fact that there is no fear of death.
"religion offers the freedom not to have to think."
Crock of shit. Absolute crock of shit soup.
I'm really suprised that you won't criticise this crappola.
SimpleSimonSaid 3 years ago
Atheism offers nothing, and that's just the way I like it. 5/5
shoyhoy 3 years ago
I don't understand why this is seen as a negative. Atheism isn't meant to offer anything.
DaveJonesBSNews 3 years ago
Don't you just love it when the faith based try to use the old argument asking what does atheism have to offer? Very well said ABC. It offers nothing and I like that. That way there is nothing to be disappointed in.
GoMetricToday 3 years ago
There is this scene in "V for Vendetta" (in the comic, not the movie) where V is standing in front of a statue of Justice before eventually blowing the statue up. He's basically talking to him self.
He says to the statue basically that he used to admire Lady Justice from affar, that he used to love her, etc. But how he's in love with Madam Anarchy.
Anyway, he sats to the statue "She makes no promises and she breaks none".
dechha1981 3 years ago
brilliant.
CapeandCowl 3 years ago
I am betting that you spend more than a few minutes selecting your music. This music reminded me of some movie I watched about American indians. Goodness knows why. Very cool stuff though. Cheers..
NLPNVC 3 years ago
You'd win that bet... Sound is very important to me, and since my videos lack a certain visual aspect, I really try and select the music that expresses the sentiments I want to convey...
Atheistblindchick 3 years ago
Send fifty dollars to the Cadicus Brotherhood of Love and your soul shall be saved! That's right, with just a small donation every week, you can live forever after death in a beautiful place. You'll get all the ice cream you want and even a pony!
(NO MONEY BACK GUARANTEE AND PRIZES ONLY GRANTED AFTER DEATH.)
PM me if you're interested. Have your checkbook ready.
*I think I have this evangelism thing mastered.*
CadicusTheDamned 3 years ago
I'll convert! It was the pony thing, I've always wanted a pony!
But you are sure about the pony thing, right? Because I hate ice cream...
Atheistblindchick 3 years ago
Not only do you get a pony, but for a mere extra ten dollars a week, it can be a unicorn pony!
(NO MONEY BACK GUARANTEE AND PRIZES ONLY GRANTED AFTER DEATH.)
CadicusTheDamned 3 years ago
Hmmm, OK, I'm in!
LOL I love how you put in the no money back guarantee... Have you ever had someone come back and complain there was no ice cream? ;)
Atheistblindchick 3 years ago
Nah, they're all dead when they go to collect. Too late to complain by that time.
CadicusTheDamned 3 years ago
I seem to recall that after the virgin sacrifice portion of my conversion to atheism, cookies were served.
Eldxale 3 years ago
OK, you got me there... I totally forgot about the cookies ;)
Atheistblindchick 3 years ago
Eloquent, direct and powerful. Kindest regards,
WiseMonki 3 years ago
Atheism offers me truth and freedom to think for myself. I always found the thought of a deity or the concept of a heaven/hell terrible. Maybe it's because I grew up in a secular environment and am used to just living without a concept of god.
HaleyMary 3 years ago
I grew up atheist, so I completely understand.
However, to me, atheism doesn't offer anything... It IS however freedom...
Atheistblindchick 3 years ago
The truth makes me happy (to Jack).
happyHominid 3 years ago
Great response video, impressively well said.
ftom2006 3 years ago
You're amazing.
rowsdowersavesus 3 years ago 2
You know...on both sides of this debate, everyone's answers are completely subjective.
Justinfh2point0 3 years ago
Justinfh2point0, now how do you suppose that? The whole point on one of the sides (the atheistic one) in this matter is NOT to let your subjectivity supersede what's true about the world.
shtosuka 3 years ago
I have to agree, but is there any way to objectively describe something as personal as atheism?
I have tried to steer away from asserting what atheism means to me, but focussed on what atheism can not offer in general...
And of course, my assertions as to what atheists are, are highly subjective, based on my own experiences with other atheists...
Atheistblindchick 3 years ago
The Atheism Offers Nothing "criticism" continues to bleed, and this particular hack-and-slash was set to beautiful music. Great video, Atheistblindchick.
LibertyIsNotGiven 3 years ago
one of the best explanations I have ever heard, thank you
mcgaugh57 3 years ago
Fantastic. Featured.
Sarahon06 3 years ago
Beautifully said. Thanks for putting this out there. :)
sfehrenbach 3 years ago
That all sounds very nice, ABC, but it's also a load of croc. Atheism is no such thing. Atheism does no more guarantee critical thinking than religiousness guarantees belief in elves. Atheism is the lack of a belief in gods. It doesn't mean that you can't be a moron, doesn't mean that you can't be ignorant, doesn't mean that you can't be an asshole. Atheism means one thing, and one thing only.
XGralgrathor 3 years ago
But true freedom is never given, it is always fought for. It does not offer freedom, it IS freedom.
Baszottbivaly 3 years ago
Atheism is just a lack of belief in God or deities. It can't offer anything. Can a lack of belief in Leprechauns offer anything?
baconeater 3 years ago
I think if there ever was a person who'd love a promise of an afterlife, that would be me. If I'm somehow wrong, I may well be the happiest person to ever enter hell since I find the prospect of it much more appealing than disappearance.
All that said, no matter what an illusion offers, I find it difficult to muster the sheer power of doublethink to make myself believe it; nor the interest in doing so for the sake of some false promises. I'd rather be right than comfortable.
So, good "video" :)
Elithrion 3 years ago
Honest, truthful and to the point. A breath of fresh air..and nice soothing music too! Suddenly I feel the urge for a cup of tea. lol.
kalsolarUK 3 years ago
Thank you :)
Atheistblindchick 3 years ago
It's not a counter argument to your excellent video, just a thought ... The security blanket makes Linus from the Peanuts the gentle genius he is, in spite of the endless ridicule he's facing because of it. Maybe for some, your Promethean perspective is perfectly suited. I however think that human beings are "social narrators", which is why we seem to need some kind of shared narrations. Do I understand you correctly by assuming that you think that atheism has no such narratives to offer?
kraemer1962 3 years ago
We as "Pan Narans" need our stories, true. Atheism has no such narratives to offer, and it should not, since it cannot and should not ever take the same position any religion has/had...
However, society itself, and many other social structures can provide this very same framework for these stories, it isn't just religion that offers this...
Atheistblindchick 3 years ago
In my mind, Hollywood could be regarded as such a "structure", yes. What makes Hollywood - just to take it as an example -preferable to the Vatican, to just take another? They both offer show and meaning ... Are you, as a mature atheist, critisiing Hollywood, too? Or do you think that any story without overtly religious symbols is ok, however delusional it gets, otherwise?
kraemer1962 3 years ago
As long as it's understood to be a story, I have no problems with either... It becomes dangerous when these stories are told as absolute truth, and believing or not believing this has severe consequences, as it has had and still does...
Religion muddles the line between reality and fantasy, between fact and fiction, and creates generation upon generation of wishful thinkers when we should have practical thinkers...
Atheistblindchick 3 years ago
Sorry to ontradict, but there is more than one tacticts to become a dominant ideology. The claim to absolute truth is naive, agreed. But again, please reread your definition of Religion. For the sake of my point, compare it to that one:
Hollywood muddles the line between reality and fantasy, between fact and fiction, and creates generation after geeration of wishful thinkers ... I fail to see any essential difference re the functional rôle they play.
kraemer1962 3 years ago
Have people been killed, maimed or tortured because they liked Star Wars better than Hancock? No, this is the domain of religion...
Are people hanged because they think Brokeback Mountain is a good movie? No, again this is the domain of religion...
Have people flown aeroplanes into buildings because they hated the remake of King Kong? No...
You either underestimate the powerful hold that religion has on people or overestimate what Hollywood has to offer... Not talking about crazy stalkers btw
Atheistblindchick 3 years ago
I don't think I do either, but then, I shall think about it. Dysfunctioal myths might well effect people in the way you stated, although I think your descritption is a tad too reductionistic. Surely, in a cosmos where Patriarchy, Exploitation, Xenophobia, Chauvinisms et al are leading stars, one cannot solely blame Religion for the numberless atrocities humans have committed against humans. Or would you think that religion forms the root of all evil?
kraemer1962 3 years ago
I love this video.
You spoke much of what I feel. I argued that atheism does in fact give nothing because there is nothing to give. That is the beauty of it. That is its virtue.
If I were sold a lie, say a retirement home with a beatiful beach in the bahamas, and I bought it, site unseen, I could be happy knowing that I would retire there someday. Let's say that those deeds that were sold to me were fake and I died before retiring. Does it matter it was a lie? I'd still say yes.
RosieDesire 3 years ago
Awesome video. I had the same thoughts myself. What I still don't get from Jack's video though is, 1) why would you need to be offered something in the first place, and 2) even if, as atheists, we're supposed to be offering something, what should it be?
dinguswad452 3 years ago
Thanks
Hmmm...
1. because this is what any religion does? You offer the people something they feel is lacking, to draw them in... And people love it, because it puts the responsibilty for life in the hands of a "wise" and "benevolent" entity, and not their own?
2. I think religion has pretty much cornered the market on that one, there isn't much left to offer... Freedom perhaps, but that is never given...
Atheistblindchick 3 years ago
You've pretty much hit the nail on the head on those. I already had answers in mind when I asked the questions, but I like yours better. Essentially though, and this is what I said in my response to Jack, it's a belief, not a used car. You should be judging your beliefs on their validity, not the "special features" that may come with them.
dinguswad452 3 years ago 2
I love that analogy!
Atheistblindchick 3 years ago
Thanks! I also thought it was pretty special when I came up with it. :)
dinguswad452 3 years ago
Oooooh great video... the next poem I'm posting has a few lines that sound like they could have come out of this.... spooky... I swear I wrote it years ago! Great video...
DavidRandallCurtis 3 years ago
You know what they say, great minds think alike!
Atheistblindchick 3 years ago
"Everything that atheists hold true, they come to on their own".
"To be an atheist is to be skeptical".
"Atheism is the start of an adult mindset".
All statements that comply with the fact that atheism isn't the default position. But not less than a week ago you picked me up on one of the points in a video and disagreed with me on that very fact. Have you changed your mind, ABC?
mungbeanman 3 years ago
No I haven't...
I was born an atheist and as I grew up, I defined my atheism in my own way, skepticism and independent thought (which is necessary, since there are no pre-packaged answers) inevitably leads to a more adult mindset...
Atheistblindchick 3 years ago
I see...
Well, we might get into this at another time and place.
mungbeanman 3 years ago
Would love to have a little interchange of ideas, Mung...
Atheistblindchick 3 years ago
Absolutely. You see I tend not to debate theists very often any more; the constant banging of one's head against the proverbial brick wall has resulted in one too many headaches. However, often the same can be said of atheists too as I have come to realise. I'm sure that we won't get to that point though. I will be making that video I mentioned soon and will await your response there.
Till then...
mungbeanman 3 years ago
This is one of the problems of terminology that lead to confusion. A baby is an atheist and a philosopher can be an atheist. Both hold the main criterion, lack of belief in God. However the philosopher, who can justify his position in the face of opposing claims holds a more specific atheistic position, that holds the characteristics Abc mentioned. As long as the second definition lacks its own term the confusion will continue.
Cafeeine 3 years ago 2
A lack of of belief in a god is not a thing therefore it cannot be atheism (which is a thing). If a baby lacks a belief in a god then so does a rock and therefore that is an atheist also. I've made a whole bunch of videos on the subject covering the set theory and formal logic problems that arise from making the mistake that you just made. If you wish to correct me go ahead, but do it there once you have seen the whole argument. No one has been able to so far but I always relish fresh meat.
mungbeanman 3 years ago
Atheism is a thing? Is darkness a thing too?
A rock would be an atheist if it was capable of thought, I suppose. I reserve the right to respond after I look at your videos, but I'm afraid you won't find much meat, I'm mostly fat and gray matter.
(Just saw your channel, love the dreads)
Cafeeine 3 years ago
Yup, atheism sure is a thing! It's something I'm damn proud to have at my disposal and I'm proud of how I arrived at it. Saying that it is something you're just born with makes it kinda, well, meh, so what?
Darkness is indeed a thing also. If you say that darkness is merely an absence of light then you're not describing what darkness is only what it is not.
Love the dreads? Thanks!
mungbeanman 3 years ago
The prefix 'a' means "no, absence of, without, lack of, not".
The absence or lack of a belief in god(s) is accurately described as atheism.
arlopickens 3 years ago
Wrong again, arlopickens. Here's some formal logic for you.
Atheism is the lack of belief in a god.
A lack of belief is not a thing.
Atheism is not a thing.
Utterly crazy! Atheism is a thing.
How the Ancient Greeks constructed their words is of very little concern to me. Since then language and logic have come on in leaps and bounds.
mungbeanman 3 years ago
I almost forgot that paying attention to the actual definitions of words is an "appeal to authority" or majority. Or some such. And that we should define all words according to the rules of formal logic.
Bald is the lack of hair
A lack of hair is not a thing
Bald is not a thing
You're right, it is utterly crazy!
arlopickens 3 years ago
Exactly right! You changed your tune pretty quick. Glad you get it now.
mungbeanman 3 years ago
Wha? I get it? So we're getting rid of "bald" now too?
arlopickens 3 years ago
No, but bald, in no way EVER can be described as a lack of hair. Just to give an example of something in front of me, my computer lacks hair in it's entirity. Is my computer bald? No it is not as it never had hair in the first place. The only way that baldness can be succesfully described is as hair loss. That covers the fact that the something we're describing is supposed to have hair but doesn't. Loss and lack are not the same thing.
mungbeanman 3 years ago
"bald, in no way EVER can be described as a lack of hair."
Sorry, but that's about the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. I know that you don't think that the dictionary can be relied upon for the meanings of words but you're pretty much alone in that stance. Hair loss leads to a lack of hair, which is accurately described as baldness. If you want to go through life fretting over whether or not that means that your computer is a bald or that rocks are atheists then that's your problem.
arlopickens 3 years ago