The Human Cost of Government Controlled Health Care

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I kept waiting to hear how she was denied coverage....

Sounded like she was complaining about getting meds, and not being funded for a special procedure for something that wasnt diagnosed yet. I am happy she found an experimental remedy for whatever mystery pain she had. I can assure you, for every "special procedure" that works, there are thousands of "sorry it did nothing" stories out there.

[FIXWCBCANADA]

The Canada Health Act Discriminates Against Injured

Workers By Excluding Them From "Access To Health Services Without Financial Or Other Barriers" By Excluding "Any Health Services That A Person Is Entitled To And Eligible For Under Any Act Of The legislature Of A Province That Relates To Workers' Or Workmen's Compensation" And That This Leaves Injured Workers Vulnerable To Wrongdoing By The Workers Compensation System

[MadHabber99]

just as a CANADIAN I just don't get it,...WHY are the patients who need surgery being DENIED the UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE they so desperately need. Canadians are so ignorant and oblivious to whats happening right under their noses it's rather sickening and down-right FRAUDULENT; and PROVES that CANADIAN'S PAY TAXES AND GET NO MEDICAL CARE,then are forced to go to were-ever;out of country because of all the CORRUPTION, try paying off your doctor in CANADA if you need medical care,

[Hashime777222]

Again, what a load of crap. You have chronic back pain? Make an appointment, talk to your doctor, make some calls to the specialists. You can do that in canada. "You need to lose 25lbs" Yes, being overweight makes surgery more dangerous. Not on the list? Did you call back, check to make sure an appointment was made?

The government cannot do everything for you take some initiative woman.

[WCBvictim]

@Hashime777222 ...YOU'RE A TOTAL FUCKING MORON DIPSHIT, YOUR OBVIOUSLY MENTALLY CHALLENGED IF YOU THINK YOUR COMMENTS WOULD HAVE HELPED THIS WOMEN OR MANY THOUSANDS OF OTHER CANADIANS, GRAB A FUCKING BRAIN, PULL YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR ASS;

UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE IS CANADA'S BIGGEST LIE, THE SUPREME COURT OF CANADA HAS ALREADY STATED THAT DUE TO RATIONED HEALTH CARE CANADIANS ARE DYING NEEDLESSLY;

[MadHabber93]

@WCBvictim Lies, Lies and more Lies. Show us the DIRECT link verifying your bullshit Supreme court of Canada claim. There is none. That's why you don't post it. YOU FUCKING MORON DIPSHIT!!

[FRSFreeStateNow]

When Government owns the entire Health Care system they take away Freedom of Choice from the people. And incentive to improve the quality of Health Care for the people they serve.

[ricanlegend203]

this is a crock of shit lie video. Canada has a great healthcare system.

[AboveBelowBetween]

No matter what system there will those who don't like it and have bad stories but I have grown up in Canada and love our system here as do the vast majoirty of Canadians. There is a reason that none of the major political parties in Canada have aboloshing Universal Health care in their platform, they would get murdered in the vote.

[ricanlegend203]

@AboveBelowBetween

Canada has a great healthcare system. I hate our American piece of shit healthcare system, we need something like Canad or Europe, our's blow's and tons of Americans are heading to Ontario for care. That is why the Ontario government changed their healthcare cards to try to prevent them from counter fitting them.

[WCBvictim]

@AboveBelowBetween ....thankyou to the states for giving me my life back....guess that says it all, here's a good one to watch to hear the new truth....;;;Dr. David Janda explains rationing and why Dr. Rob Steele must defeat Dingell;;; it really explains the :NEW HEALTH CARE SYSTEM::from stimulus package.

it really explains for many,,,only the healthy and strong will survive..

[AllTheGoodNamzWerTkn]

This video features one story about Canadian health care. You can find just as many horror stories about the American health care system as you can find about the Canadian health care system.

[englishangler]

more rules for doctors decisions.

[dbenoit64]

I'll live in canada. sometimes there are bad stories like this. THANK GOD i dont live in the US and have to deal with the health care system there. WAY WORSE. "obama care" as it elvolves will help.

[rowland2110]

@dbenoit64 Healthcare is not worse here... despite what they tell you in Canada.

[kgaccount]

We already have health care like this, it's called HMOS

[kgaccount]

See you tube "severely autistic boy beaten by big government part two" it a lighter side of goofy government. God bless this woman, how horrible the pain she had during all this time! It would've been better for her to have hot tub therapy and massage, vitamins and aromatherapy, maybe watch some comedy videos...what a scam all this health care is..

[hadenufnow]

THE current bill is not the answer ,,,does not address proper Tort Reform, "undocumented" access for expensive non-life threatening HC , & does not provide MOST IMPORTANTLY an OPT OUT Provision for those that believe it is still too bloated with waste & inefficiencies resulting in inflated premiums not in keeping with services provided.

....A mandate stuffed inside a trojan horse bill for HC is a skunk in the road...too stupid to debate...

REPEAL the BIll nobody ever wanted

[hadenufnow]

Kill the 3000 pg HC Illegal Trojan Horse Mandate Bill devoid of any health care...

reform is obamaspeak for BUY "this crap we've served up" or "GO TO JAIL"...

this ain't the bill..@ $16,000/year for small family of four..

Kill it..

Vote em out..

Nobody wants it..

[pbprettyblue]

Yeah DOOD This is like Christ's love all over my face. Republicans should TOTALLY use this video as an example. Totally heart wrenching and trumping of all of the stories of greed by the unchecked private insurance companies.

[StupidVds]

She's a lying cunt. It's already been proven.

[kellyelainewright61]

what is the cost of having to have no life and neglect your kids for three years ?Can you put a price on that .

[pbprettyblue]

The private insurance companies will.

[EnhancementSmoker]

i wonder how much she paid for her operation in the US...

[DoomHippie]

(paying even a lot for help is still better then not getting help at all)

[HaleFire7]

I wonder if she got the right fucking treatment smart ass...

[mark1m]

what does this have to do with obamacare? last i checked canada was single payer.

Which bill proposes a single payer system? we should kill that one and go for the public option version instead imo.

[DoomHippie]

Obama campaigned saying that public option was his stepping stone for single payer. Don't believe me?

watch?v=p-bY92mcOdk

In his own words, public option leads to single payer. Counterargument?

[BoboFromTexas]

This is the Hope and Change that we can look forward to.

[cjrush1009]

hehe I wonder what horrible disease awaits you when you get old.

[RecceMan90]

Too bad its true! And there are a lot more life stories like hers and worse!

Too bad you are just a pathetic little cunt and have keyboard muscles...I bet you don't have the stones to tell her to her face!

Now be your good little faggot sheep self and continue buying into the CBC propaganda and run along!

[tda325]

Liberal compassion from people like Stupid (the most apt screen name ever) just gives me a warm fuzzy feeling all over...

[bigtex501]

U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics..

OBAMER ECONOMICS...

Unemployment rate JUMPS from 9.8% (15.1 MILLION) to....

10.2% (15.7 MILLION)

TOTAL UNEMPLOYMENT....

JUMPS from 16.8% to 17.5% of the civilian population or 41.4 MILLION PEOPLE.

Of those that can't afford to get H.C. insurance..

HOW MANY are DUE to NO JOBS?????

Obamer....

IT'S THE "ECONOMY STUPID"!!!

[bigtex501]

H.R. 3962 & "DOC FIX" Legislation CBO.. NET INCREASE in FED DEFICITS.. $425 BILLION in Medicaid & CHIP $605 BILLION in FED Subsidies SUB TOTAL.. $1,055 billion in subsidies by exchanges & related spending! + $245 BILLION "DOC FIX" = $1.3 TRILLION TOTAL! Offsets - $167 billion in penalties paid by individuals & employers 10 years. NET reduction in fed budget deficits of $104 billion over 2010-2019 period With "DOC FIX" GRAND TOTAL of Health Care Proposal? $ 1,196,000,000,000.00!

[NotaBeetleFan]

The reason they are fighting for the Doc Fix is because govt options have been ripping docs off for years, Tex. look up why docs refused govt options and even find the actual amounts they pay for services. We pay taxes already to help the indigent but they underpay the services that have the highest rate of use. Then docs have to raise overall prices and hope self payers and other ins. cover the deficit. If not, they ration govt options pts. thus turn patients away.

[bigtex501]

$245 BILLION "DOC FIX" Legislation

Sen. Stabenow (D-Mich)

"Dem leaders hoped to PASS THE PROPOSAL QUICKLY, so as to DISASSOCIATE it from the larger health reform proposal."

"Were doing the doc fix (formula to pay doctors treating Medicare patients) first so as not to get it confused with health care reform," Sen. Tom Harkin (D-Iowa) said.

"Were going to try to pass it as an emergency-type of spending so that it DOESNT CONNECT to the health care reform bill & FIGURE IN AS A COST OF IT."

[bigtex501]

CBO

HR 3962

**LEAVES 18 MILLION** non-elderly residents UNINSURED!

..The "public plan" would have to CHARGE premiums to cover its costs!

..MANDATE for legal residents to obtain health insurance starting in 2013 & impose a FINANCIAL PENALTY on people who did not do so!

..Substantially reduce the growth of Medicare's payment rates for services!

Impose an INCOME TAX SURCHARGE on high-income individuals!

..Pay SUBSIDIES to 150% to 400% of FPL in the exchanges.

[bigtex501]

Congressional Budget Office Reports

H.R. 3962

To REDUCE direct spending by $426 BILLION over the 2010 - 2019 period...

.. Permanent REDUCTIONS in the annual updates to MEDICARE'S payment rates for most services in the fee-for-service sector! (namely, the effects of those changes on payments to Medicare Advantage plans & collections of Part B premiums.) (SAVING $229 BILLION)

.. Setting payment rates in the MEDICARE ADVANTAGE PROGRAM on the basis of Medicare spending! (SAVING $170 BILLION)

[NotaBeetleFan]

I can foresee docs turning more medicare and public option patients away. They'll be paying for their lottery tickets, but never see the doc. They'll overrun the ER's just like Medicaid do today. But since you have to buy insurance, the Insurance companies will make lots of money off this. this is the biggest CON JOB I've ever seen. Pay rich companies so more poor get turned away from doctors. I refuse. I don't charge for home health. I know they'll give me goods and services back.

[DoomHippie]

Amen to that!

Forcing people to buy health care to solve the problem of the uninsured is like trying to solve the homeless problem by forcing the homeless to buy houses!

This isn't Free Market.! This isn't even Socialism! It's Corporatism, redistribution of money FROM the poor, TO the rich!

[XxUrSoLoStxX]

DoomHippie.... very well put.

[WCBvictim]

@DoomHippie ...YOU HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD,, THERE HIPPIE, IT'S JUST ANOTHER NEW YORK SHELL GAME TO TAKE MONEY AND USE IT FOR ANYTHING OTHER THAN WHAT IT WAS TAKEN FOR; LIKELY A WAR, OR MORE OPPRESSION, AND TO PAD SOMEONE'S POCKET,

[NotaBeetleFan]

If you payed all your money (that you don't have to begin with) to the Rich AIG con artists, then you don't have cash to pay doctor for any care when you find no one accepts your insurance GIMMICK card. THat' is exactely what happened to my spouse. Paying Medicare B and no doc. . I saved more money to just pay payments until it was payed off straight to the doc and the hospital. Hubby has chronic conditions by the way.

[bigtex501]

Nota,

HR 3962

11-2-09 Congressional Budget Office..

estimates what "THE PLANS" will likely cost..

Individual w/ $44,000 before taxes who purchases his own insurance WILL PAY a $5,300 premiums & an estimated $2,000 in out-of-pocket expenses..

TOTAL OF $7,300 a year, OR...

***17% of HIS pre-tax income***!

A family w/ $102,100 a year before taxes WILL PAY a $15,000 premiums plus an estimated $5,300 in out-of-pocket expenses..

TOTAL OF $20,300, OR...

***20% of THEIR pre-tax income***!

[davidpark68]

at some point it's not going to be worth working. at least not on the books.