Why is that none of the 'vegan environmentalists' talk about overpopulation, the true cause of the problems? Using veganism to solve environmental problems or starvation is like patching up wounds when the real enemy--overpopulation is constantly gutting you with a knife.
It's so easy to remove meat/dairy just a day (or two or three) a week - There's plenty of great foods to discover! My neighbors went on "Meatless Mondays" --- Now they just do "meat monday" and eat veg the rest of the time! ;)
@beaelliott I am not interested in veggie foods to discover. I will eat meat as much as I like and any day i like. Which is 7 days a week almost every meal unless I have cereal or something with DAIRY milk. Your lifestyle isn't for me and I am not interested in every giving up meat.
@lovebigboobs29 So, you're not concerned with your own health, the environment or sentient creatures? What is it that you do care about lovebigboobs29?
@beaelliott Meat will not harm health. Limit red meat to twice a week and eat more chicken and fish. Me and my whole family are healthy and are all meat eaters. The environment is fine where I live. No I don't give a damn about the food animals as long as they are delicious. I care about my friends and family.
@lovebigboobs29 So your circle of compassion is restricted and limited to humans only... And you believe the "science" about flesh consumption but not the science about global warming? Sounds like you make your own arbitrary rules along the way... Sort of based on whim and emotion... Me? I'd like to think I'm a critical thinker who requires sound reasoning for decisions. Else what's the intellect for?
@beaelliott To each their own and I believe the regular science about meat consumption the one proving its not unhealthy for us not the vegan propaganda crap. Yes I have compassion for my friends and family. No I don't believe the crap about global warming and even if I did I wouldn't consume less animal products. The planet will outlive us anyways so I am good.
@lovebigboobs29 You mean the planet will outlive you... And you don't really care about the rest who remain? That's sort of like not flushing the toilet in a public bathroom isn't it? And to each their own is fine... As long as you're not stealing another life - Then it's not as "fair" as you attempt to make it sound. Nice try though! ;)
@beaelliott Its not a nice try it is still to each their own. I will consume meat if I want to. Its fair to me. The animals don't mean shit to me except for food. Others for entertainment.
@lovebigboobs29 Ah... The narrow minded voice of selfish gluttony has spoken. I shall make every attempt to avoid folks like you - Especially in dark, unsafe places. No telling what your ME-ist attitude is capable of. For what it's worth... I wish you peace, if you're courageous enough to embrace it.
@beaelliott My life is very peaceful and happy. Also I have never harmed anyone or anything so my ME-ish attitude is safe lol. ROFL narrow minded?? Then I guess most the world is huh. Its not selfish to consume meat or enjoy zoos or ciscuses. Damn vegans are messed in the head.
@lovebigboobs29 Actually I was responding to your comment about only caring for your family and friends. Please don't take me out of context.I'd say that most of the world has been preoccupied thus far and the thought of the harms done to the innocent have never really crossed their minds yet.But you seem to know the issues, yet still don't care.It's not so odd to want to be kind. Most people think they are-but have never examined the details that would prove otherwise. It's all about awareness.
@beaelliott I mean you do realize there are billions of people out there whom enjoy the same as I do. Meat and animal products as well as entertainment. Seems to me the minority are the close minded people.
@lovebigboobs29 Billions of people are indoctrinated due to culture and tradition. Most have never thought of questioning where their food (meat) comes from-Obviously technology and a world of information has changed that and will continue to do so until a new consensus is formed. Such is the nature of civilization... We're constantly evolving and improving.Some will be left behind-as was the case in many progressive changes. Today's minority buries yesterday's fossils.Hardly "close minded".
@beaelliott Becoming vegan isn't improving. Its the opposite and no there will always be more of us then you. Of course you would say such stupid shit to the billions whom eat meat. No they eat it because they don't fall for the vullshit vegan propaganda and know its not bad. The ones whom have turned vegan were weak and gave into the whole animal cruelty crap.
@beaelliott I saw what you wrote and I don't need justification for eating meat. Its freedom of choice and I choose and will always choose to consume it. I don't give a crap about the cruelty aspect. As for killing for food I leave that to Slaughter Houses and I choose to eat it because I like it. I believe fermly in eating meat. Don't really care how you feel about it lol
@lovebigboobs29 A reasoning person requires justification for doing everything that affects others... Especially in a negative way. You've just declared yourself a reactionary, indoctrinated brute. You want to do something - Don't have any justifications. Don't care whom it harms... And that's that! Thank you for this public exchange as it serves as a prime example as to what frivolous wants inspire: Perverse thoughtlessness. Good day.
@beaelliott You're correct I don't give a shit. It doesn't affect a person anyways. Even if it did oh well I will not quit eating as I like. I didn't declare myself as anything so nice try on that. Like I said to each their own and I don't really care what anyone thinks about me consuming meat and animal products.
@beaelliott PS I don't need to justify myself because I am doing nothing wrong. Its perfectly legal and meat is here for us to eat. Nice try on your idiocracy.
@lovebigboobs29 Please don't confuse what's "legal" and what's moral. Slavery was legal once... So was child labor and using women as chattel. Meat is here because these docile animals can't defend themselves against human predators. It's here because other folks make lots and lots of money peddling their flesh to folks like you who "don't give a shit". Now please... Go eat your animal - Apparently that's what gives your life meaning. Reason or ethics sure don't. Goodbye.
@beaelliott So what. I don't feel unethical for eating it. I feel nothing wrong with my "Morals" for doing so. Meat will always be legal. Bringing up slavery and crap dows nothing for me so nice try. My ancestors were never slaves so like I care. People got rights the animals will ALWAYS be food.
@lovebigboobs29 Sorry I disagree. I don't think having compassion and living up to one own values is a weakness. There is no kindness in killing without reason. There is no rational justification for consuming meat. You can say that the whole universe is doing something without a valid reason... And it doesn't make the act any less irrational - Or any less cruel. I know all beings wish to live. If there is no NECESSITY - to take life... Then why do so? Your tastebuds only trump logic by force.
@beaelliott Dont try giving me that crap that Meat is murder. Look up the definition Murder is killing another human being. Or dairy = veal for 1 I love veal or the animal abuse crap because well I dont really care they are being slaughtered and bred for food anyways. Global warming doesn't scare me for one because I know its not us causing it but its a natural cycle.
@lovebigboobs29 It's not crap that all beings love their lives equally.It's not crap that we force them into lives they would never choose & deaths they wish to avoid. Look up "bully" in the dictionary-Those who overpower others- It applies to victims with 2 legs or 4.Your "logic" makes no sense-You don't care because these cows,pigs and chickens were bred to be killed anyway.Bred by whom and why?And by what justification.To be taken seriously, you need a better reason other than frivolous want.
Why is that none of the 'vegan environmentalists' talk about overpopulation, the true cause of the problems? Using veganism to solve environmental problems or starvation is like patching up wounds when the real enemy--overpopulation is constantly gutting you with a knife.
90Rush 1 month ago
It's so easy to remove meat/dairy just a day (or two or three) a week - There's plenty of great foods to discover! My neighbors went on "Meatless Mondays" --- Now they just do "meat monday" and eat veg the rest of the time! ;)
beaelliott 1 year ago
@beaelliott I am not interested in veggie foods to discover. I will eat meat as much as I like and any day i like. Which is 7 days a week almost every meal unless I have cereal or something with DAIRY milk. Your lifestyle isn't for me and I am not interested in every giving up meat.
lovebigboobs29 2 months ago
@lovebigboobs29 So, you're not concerned with your own health, the environment or sentient creatures? What is it that you do care about lovebigboobs29?
beaelliott 2 months ago
@beaelliott Meat will not harm health. Limit red meat to twice a week and eat more chicken and fish. Me and my whole family are healthy and are all meat eaters. The environment is fine where I live. No I don't give a damn about the food animals as long as they are delicious. I care about my friends and family.
lovebigboobs29 2 months ago
@lovebigboobs29 So your circle of compassion is restricted and limited to humans only... And you believe the "science" about flesh consumption but not the science about global warming? Sounds like you make your own arbitrary rules along the way... Sort of based on whim and emotion... Me? I'd like to think I'm a critical thinker who requires sound reasoning for decisions. Else what's the intellect for?
beaelliott 2 months ago
@beaelliott To each their own and I believe the regular science about meat consumption the one proving its not unhealthy for us not the vegan propaganda crap. Yes I have compassion for my friends and family. No I don't believe the crap about global warming and even if I did I wouldn't consume less animal products. The planet will outlive us anyways so I am good.
lovebigboobs29 2 months ago
@lovebigboobs29 You mean the planet will outlive you... And you don't really care about the rest who remain? That's sort of like not flushing the toilet in a public bathroom isn't it? And to each their own is fine... As long as you're not stealing another life - Then it's not as "fair" as you attempt to make it sound. Nice try though! ;)
beaelliott 2 months ago
@beaelliott Its not a nice try it is still to each their own. I will consume meat if I want to. Its fair to me. The animals don't mean shit to me except for food. Others for entertainment.
lovebigboobs29 2 months ago
@lovebigboobs29 Ah... The narrow minded voice of selfish gluttony has spoken. I shall make every attempt to avoid folks like you - Especially in dark, unsafe places. No telling what your ME-ist attitude is capable of. For what it's worth... I wish you peace, if you're courageous enough to embrace it.
beaelliott 2 months ago
@beaelliott My life is very peaceful and happy. Also I have never harmed anyone or anything so my ME-ish attitude is safe lol. ROFL narrow minded?? Then I guess most the world is huh. Its not selfish to consume meat or enjoy zoos or ciscuses. Damn vegans are messed in the head.
lovebigboobs29 2 months ago
@lovebigboobs29 Actually I was responding to your comment about only caring for your family and friends. Please don't take me out of context.I'd say that most of the world has been preoccupied thus far and the thought of the harms done to the innocent have never really crossed their minds yet.But you seem to know the issues, yet still don't care.It's not so odd to want to be kind. Most people think they are-but have never examined the details that would prove otherwise. It's all about awareness.
beaelliott 2 months ago
@beaelliott I mean you do realize there are billions of people out there whom enjoy the same as I do. Meat and animal products as well as entertainment. Seems to me the minority are the close minded people.
lovebigboobs29 2 months ago
@lovebigboobs29 Billions of people are indoctrinated due to culture and tradition. Most have never thought of questioning where their food (meat) comes from-Obviously technology and a world of information has changed that and will continue to do so until a new consensus is formed. Such is the nature of civilization... We're constantly evolving and improving.Some will be left behind-as was the case in many progressive changes. Today's minority buries yesterday's fossils.Hardly "close minded".
beaelliott 2 months ago
@beaelliott Becoming vegan isn't improving. Its the opposite and no there will always be more of us then you. Of course you would say such stupid shit to the billions whom eat meat. No they eat it because they don't fall for the vullshit vegan propaganda and know its not bad. The ones whom have turned vegan were weak and gave into the whole animal cruelty crap.
lovebigboobs29 2 months ago
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beaelliott 2 months ago
@beaelliott I saw what you wrote and I don't need justification for eating meat. Its freedom of choice and I choose and will always choose to consume it. I don't give a crap about the cruelty aspect. As for killing for food I leave that to Slaughter Houses and I choose to eat it because I like it. I believe fermly in eating meat. Don't really care how you feel about it lol
lovebigboobs29 2 months ago
@lovebigboobs29 A reasoning person requires justification for doing everything that affects others... Especially in a negative way. You've just declared yourself a reactionary, indoctrinated brute. You want to do something - Don't have any justifications. Don't care whom it harms... And that's that! Thank you for this public exchange as it serves as a prime example as to what frivolous wants inspire: Perverse thoughtlessness. Good day.
beaelliott 2 months ago
@beaelliott You're correct I don't give a shit. It doesn't affect a person anyways. Even if it did oh well I will not quit eating as I like. I didn't declare myself as anything so nice try on that. Like I said to each their own and I don't really care what anyone thinks about me consuming meat and animal products.
lovebigboobs29 2 months ago
@beaelliott PS I don't need to justify myself because I am doing nothing wrong. Its perfectly legal and meat is here for us to eat. Nice try on your idiocracy.
lovebigboobs29 2 months ago
@lovebigboobs29 Please don't confuse what's "legal" and what's moral. Slavery was legal once... So was child labor and using women as chattel. Meat is here because these docile animals can't defend themselves against human predators. It's here because other folks make lots and lots of money peddling their flesh to folks like you who "don't give a shit". Now please... Go eat your animal - Apparently that's what gives your life meaning. Reason or ethics sure don't. Goodbye.
beaelliott 2 months ago
@beaelliott So what. I don't feel unethical for eating it. I feel nothing wrong with my "Morals" for doing so. Meat will always be legal. Bringing up slavery and crap dows nothing for me so nice try. My ancestors were never slaves so like I care. People got rights the animals will ALWAYS be food.
lovebigboobs29 2 months ago
@lovebigboobs29 Sorry I disagree. I don't think having compassion and living up to one own values is a weakness. There is no kindness in killing without reason. There is no rational justification for consuming meat. You can say that the whole universe is doing something without a valid reason... And it doesn't make the act any less irrational - Or any less cruel. I know all beings wish to live. If there is no NECESSITY - to take life... Then why do so? Your tastebuds only trump logic by force.
beaelliott 2 months ago
@beaelliott Dont try giving me that crap that Meat is murder. Look up the definition Murder is killing another human being. Or dairy = veal for 1 I love veal or the animal abuse crap because well I dont really care they are being slaughtered and bred for food anyways. Global warming doesn't scare me for one because I know its not us causing it but its a natural cycle.
lovebigboobs29 2 months ago
@lovebigboobs29 It's not crap that all beings love their lives equally.It's not crap that we force them into lives they would never choose & deaths they wish to avoid. Look up "bully" in the dictionary-Those who overpower others- It applies to victims with 2 legs or 4.Your "logic" makes no sense-You don't care because these cows,pigs and chickens were bred to be killed anyway.Bred by whom and why?And by what justification.To be taken seriously, you need a better reason other than frivolous want.
beaelliott 2 months ago